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Reply #240 posted 07/09/17 11:21pm

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bboy87 said:

Since his death, this is what has been released (with unreleased material):

Hello World: The Solo Motown Collection- A 3 CD set of Michael's 1971-1975 albums on Motown, "Got To Be There", "Ben", "Music and Me", "Forever, Michael" as well as the 1984 and 1986 compilations, "Farewell My Summer Love", and "Looking Back at Yesterday". Also included was the original 1973 mixes of the songs included on Farewell My Summer Love and the original 1969 mix of "Twenty Five Miles" which was included on the 1987 remix album, "The Original Soul of Michael Jackson"

I Want You Back: The Unreleased Masters- 2009 compilation that included unreleased songs from 1969 to 1973

The Jackson 5 Live at The Forum- 2010 2 CD set of Jackson 5 concerts from 1970 and 1972

Come and Get It: The Rare Pearls- 2012 boxset released the same day as Bad25. Includes unreleased material from 1969 to 1975

This Is It- the 2009 film and soundtrack chronicling Michael's last rehearsals

Michael- a 2010 compilation of material recorded from 1982, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2001, and 2007. Also known for three songs with "dubious origin"

Bad25- 2012 3 CD/1 DVD boxset re-releasing "Bad", with 8 unreleased songs, 2 alternate versions of "I Just Can't Stop Loving You", and 3 new remixes. Also included is the July 16, 1988 concert at Wembley stadium in video and CD format.

Michael Jackson's Bad25- Spike Lee's documentary on the Bad album, videos, and tours.

Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to Off The Wall- Spike Lee's 2016 documentary on The Jackson 5's rise, exit from Motown to CBS, and Michael's rise to adult stardom.

Xscape- 2014 compilation of unreleased material recorded from 1981, 1983, 1985, 1991, 1998, 1999, and 2001

Michael Jackson's Vision- 2010 dvd set of most of Jackson's videos. Included Michael's last music video, "One More Chance" and Can You Feel It, Blame It On The Boogie, Enjoy Yourself, and others on DVD for the first time. Not included was Goin' Places, Off The Wall (live), Watzupwithu, and the original version of Blood on The Dancefloor

Michael Jackson: Live at Wembley July 16, 1988- The concert included in Bad25 released as a standalone DVD

Hello World was on schedule before he died, just a bad coincidence.

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Reply #241 posted 07/10/17 2:41am

jaawwnn

True story, we were celebrating 25 years of Purple Rain that night, it was literally in the middle of the Purple Rain guitar solo when my mate got a text message from his brother telling him to turn on the news. Freaky as hell. RIP Michael, a peace you so rarely found in life.

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Reply #242 posted 07/10/17 9:33am

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214 said:

Scorp said:

as a entertainment columnist said

MJ was a "millionaire" spending like a "billionaire"

and this is why Martin Bashir said in that 2003 Documentary

“It’s very difficult for him, he has been at the very heights of the musical business, and it’s hard for an individual to be that high and then to come down the mountain, and I’m quite worried how the next few years will play out for Michael Jackson, because I think he finds the whole idea of a declining career impossible to cope with.”

there was nothing left in the end, and that's why after all these years, I think about what should have been rather than what became, when these shows were announced, even though it was supposed to be a show, it was all for show

if he had stayed the course after reaching the very pinnacle, none of this would have happened

[Edited 7/7/17 17:07pm]

Sad but true.



It's sort of a Catch-22, because to be as "iconic" as MJ he almost had to be every bit as eccentric as he was. And to live that lifestyle, it's expensive -- which is OK if the money is still coming in.

NOBODY is pulling down the kind of album sales that MJ had throughout his career. I wonder how he would've adjusted to streaming and YouTube views counting as partial sales?

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Reply #243 posted 07/10/17 9:41am

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arrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #244 posted 07/11/17 3:36pm

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jaawwnn said:

True story, we were celebrating 25 years of Purple Rain that night, it was literally in the middle of the Purple Rain guitar solo when my mate got a text message from his brother telling him to turn on the news. Freaky as hell. RIP Michael, a peace you so rarely found in life.

sad sad

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Reply #245 posted 07/12/17 12:39pm

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Anyone seen this?

Rare, Unreleased Michael ...or Auction

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Very odd, I think. And unfortunate, music should not the "released" that way.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #246 posted 07/12/17 2:05pm

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Dasein said:

Free2BMe said:

Dasein said: Sweetie, I understand the difference. However, I was pointing out that Michael wasn't broke. Michael could have sold his half interest in the Sony/ATV catalogue and received liquid assets (cash).


Hunny, I doubt that you do know the difference. Besides, Michael Jackson didn't sell his interest
in the ATV catalog and was in debt when he died. If you have a million dollars worth of fixed as-
sets but millions of dollars in debt, you most certainly can still be broke. And, you obviously didn't
read the articles I posted: Michael Jackson died in debt despite having fixed assets worth millions
as indicated by a forensic accountant. What will it do to your heart and your attachment to him for
you to acknowledge that?

People are so fucking strange when it comes to their celebrity idols . . .


You're not broke when your assets by far exceed your debt. You're only broke when your debts are much higher than your assets.

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Reply #247 posted 07/12/17 2:15pm

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bboy87 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, that is true, thanks to the investment banker who purchased the loan!!

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And they still haven't found a buyer yet, and they have to keep dropping the price. No one is interested. It takes a special type of buyer to buy a property like Neverland.

I believe if the estate had been able to find a way to use it as an tourist attraction or whatever, they would've kept it, but from what I hear, the residents are NOT having that so honestly, it's in their best interest to sell it.

What sucks is that so many of his belongings are still in huge storage units

And they could so easily turn it into a tourist attraction, despite the reservations by the locals. Just prohibit individual traffic up Figuera Montain road, make a visitor center in L.A. or Santa Barbara, collect the people there and bus them up to Neverland. The only way to get in is to check in at the visitor center in L.A./Santa Barbara and travel from there by bus. Everyone coming individually is being denied. Would be so easy.

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Reply #248 posted 07/12/17 2:17pm

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cloveringold85 said:

bboy87 said:

I believe if the estate had been able to find a way to use it as an tourist attraction or whatever, they would've kept it, but from what I hear, the residents are NOT having that so honestly, it's in their best interest to sell it.

What sucks is that so many of his belongings are still in huge storage units

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Yes, they wanted to keep it going as an amusement park and museum, much like we have with Graceland and now, Paisley Park. It's a real shame that they could no do something with Neverland; I think it would have been wonderful.

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OMG, to imagine all MJs wordly posessions in storage......massive!!

Yes. Having visited Graceland and having seen how impressive it is and how it is run, it's such a damn tragedy that the people involved are too stupid to do the same thing for Michael/Neverland. The fact that they are not even trying and talking of selling it, is just gut wrenching.

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Reply #249 posted 07/12/17 2:20pm

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Free2BMe said:

bboy87 said:

I believe if the estate had been able to find a way to use it as an tourist attraction or whatever, they would've kept it, but from what I hear, the residents are NOT having that so honestly, it's in their best interest to sell it.

What sucks is that so many of his belongings are still in huge storage units

Because of access, roads, zoning, etc. , Neverland can't become a tourist attraction. Just think how great that would be if the Estate could so. It would be super successful. Yeah, it sucks that his belongings are in storage. However, it will be left to his children in deciding what to do with his things. Everything belongs to them. The difference between Graceland and Paisley Park becoming tourist attractions is that both are on open streets with easy access. Neverland is on a secluded road, sprawling over almost 3,000 acres. Neverland would have been an awesome attraction with its beautiful grounds, lakes, buildings, train station, movie building, amusement rides, zoo,guest cottages, etc. There are hundreds and hundreds of acres that are nothing but forest. Unbelievable beauty and tranquility. [Edited 7/8/17 16:45pm] [Edited 7/8/17 16:55pm][/ cool [b][Edited 7/8/17 17:03pm]


And that wouldn't be a problem, see my previous post. Just collect people somewhere else and get them there with hourly busses. Would be easily doable.

I agree, having been fortunate enough to visit Neverland four times, I can say it is an amazing place, everyone should see and with having Michael's stuff back there on display, it would be mindblowing.

[Edited 7/12/17 14:22pm]

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Reply #250 posted 07/12/17 11:12pm

Free2BMe

PatrickS77 said:



Free2BMe said:


bboy87 said:


I believe if the estate had been able to find a way to use it as an tourist attraction or whatever, they would've kept it, but from what I hear, the residents are NOT having that so honestly, it's in their best interest to sell it.

What sucks is that so many of his belongings are still in huge storage units



Because of access, roads, zoning, etc. , Neverland can't become a tourist attraction. Just think how great that would be if the Estate could so. It would be super successful. Yeah, it sucks that his belongings are in storage. However, it will be left to his children in deciding what to do with his things. Everything belongs to them. The difference between Graceland and Paisley Park becoming tourist attractions is that both are on open streets with easy access. Neverland is on a secluded road, sprawling over almost 3,000 acres. Neverland would have been an awesome attraction with its beautiful grounds, lakes, buildings, train station, movie building, amusement rides, zoo,guest cottages, etc. There are hundreds and hundreds of acres that are nothing but forest. Unbelievable beauty and tranquility. [Edited 7/8/17 16:45pm] [Edited 7/8/17 16:55pm][/ cool [b][Edited 7/8/17 17:03pm]



And that wouldn't be a problem, see my previous post. Just collect people somewhere else and get them there with hourly busses. Would be easily doable.



I agree, having been fortunate enough to visit Neverland four times, I can say it is an amazing place, everyone should see and with having Michael's stuff back there on display, it would be mindblowing.

[Edited 7/12/17 14:22pm]




Great ideas about how to make Neverland accessible for becoming a tourist attraction.
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Reply #251 posted 07/13/17 12:42am

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Se7en said:

214 said:

Sad but true.



It's sort of a Catch-22, because to be as "iconic" as MJ he almost had to be every bit as eccentric as he was. And to live that lifestyle, it's expensive -- which is OK if the money is still coming in.

NOBODY is pulling down the kind of album sales that MJ had throughout his career. I wonder how he would've adjusted to streaming and YouTube views counting as partial sales?

It's been said that Michael was eccentric even back during the Off The Wall and Thriller period. It was the amount of fame and money that brought it more to the forefront. You can see it quite a bit in old articles and interviews.

One of his collaborators said he hated leaks and after Xscape andHold My Hand surfaced on the internet, he was thinking a lot on how he wanted to release his music going forward.

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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