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Reply #240 posted 10/26/15 7:24pm

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SEANMAN said:

Well it's about time lol



After 8 long years, she's FINALLY nominated! Here's the link...



http://www.rollingstone.c...s-20151008


Soooo....are The Time in the rrhof? Should they b...Prince did their records. Is Janet in the rrhof...should she be...in and to did her records. Plenty of 'products' are in the rrhof' so why not...but Jant gets waaaaay to much recognition for her last name and shitty vocals.
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Reply #241 posted 10/26/15 7:27pm

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Reply #242 posted 10/26/15 7:32pm

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BlackCat1985 said:

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I wonder what Janet will lip sync at the ceremony if she gets in.



Wouldn't that be a joke, especially seeing as most of those performances are awesome. The musicians go above and beyond to perform well that evening. I predict she won't "perform" at all if she gets in.




Oh please!! STFU! Janet works just as hard as anyone on this damn list! You're so quick to want to put this woman down when you've probably never seen her in action. She works her ass off to put on a great show. And if and when she does get in it will be well deserved.

She works HELLAH damn hard....at lip synching...and pushing her titties out.
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Reply #243 posted 10/26/15 7:38pm

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lowkey said:

im curious to know how do you all decide which nominees 'deserves' to be inducted over the others. if they are all on the ballot they all have the same chances right? this is janet's first time being nominated so she clearly wasnt the reason chaka or any other artists hasnt been inducted.nwa put out 1 or 2 albums and basically ruined rap music imo, yet the artist you all feel dont deserve to be inducted in this class happens to be a icon with over a 30 year career and one of the most successful and influencial female artist of all time?


Thank you!!! They are complaining about Janet but you got NWA with woman beater Dr.Dre in the mix! Where is the outrage in that. Janet has worked her ass off for everything she's got. They act like she ain't done sh*t in 30 years. If her critically acclaimed album helps her get in then so be it.
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It's the rrhof....not the moral leaders of America hall of fame...


Sly, junkie....Elvis, junkie...Nirvana, junkie... jimi...death by junkie....Janis, beath by junkie... James Brown, junkie and abuser, like, junkie and abuser....Santana, ex Junie, Jerry Lee Lewis, peodophile...ray Charles, junkie, phanderer...Michael Jackson,junkie, possible peodilhile...the Beatles....ALL drug abusers. They all worked hard though at their craft of making music and bringing things to music that didn't previously exist.

All great rockers tho(except elves...Bleh). This is about rock and roll....not about who do u want your kid to grow up and be

If it were the dancers hall fame...I'd be all about Janet. Janet can't play shit and can't sing a lick...if that bitch gets in its disgraceful. Any act on that list should get in before Janet. Any musical credibility brought to music under the Janet brand was by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. All Janet did was sing shiftily and shake her ass and push her titties out.

If Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis all already in(which I doubt) then Janet's kind if in by proxy with them.
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Reply #244 posted 10/26/15 7:41pm

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Reply #245 posted 10/26/15 7:57pm

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Free2BMe said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:



jackson35 said:


so lip syching, not being able to carry a tune and pretending to be a writer on your biggest hit is?



rolleyes




On a lot of her songs Janet sounds just like her brother MJ! To the point where it's eerie.


So your actually saying he can't carry a tune?




All of Janet songs are autobiographical. Which means SHE wrote them!!! Your also calling JJ&TL a liar!!!









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Janet is NOT a liar like Beyonce! She WRITES her own songs. Plus has NEVER been sued for plagiarism STOP HATING!




Why must you and other Janet stans like you have to bring other artists( your asinine mention of Michael in this discussion, or your immature mention of Beyoncé). Can't you stans defend Janet without trying to tear down other artists? You people whine and bitch IF Michael's name or Beyoncé is mentioned in a Janet thread; yet, it is YOU who bring these two names up more than anyone else.

No...cuz they know deep down Janet ain't shit but an overpaid dancer Janet can't sing her way out of thin air and couldn't write a song to save Michal Jackson's life....and wheres MJ these days?
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Reply #246 posted 10/26/15 7:57pm

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And by the time Mike exited the group there was no more success left for the other brothers.



Not true. Jermaine had several R&B hits after Victory and a few songs went Top 40 pop. The Jacksons also had a couple of R&B Top 10s from 2300 Jackson Street. Marlon's Don't Go went #2 on the R&B chart. Just because a record doesn't hit the pop charts does not mean it's not successful.


I'm talking long term success...Staying power.
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Reply #247 posted 10/26/15 8:05pm

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Thank you!!! They are complaining about Janet but you got NWA with woman beater Dr.Dre in the mix! Where is the outrage in that. Janet has worked her ass off for everything she's got. They act like she ain't done sh*t in 30 years. If her critically acclaimed album helps her get in then so be it.
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It's the rrhof....not the moral leaders of America hall of fame...


Sly, junkie....Elvis, junkie...Nirvana, junkie... jimi...death by junkie....Janis, beath by junkie... James Brown, junkie and abuser, like, junkie and abuser....Santana, ex Junie, Jerry Lee Lewis, peodophile...ray Charles, junkie, phanderer...Michael Jackson,junkie, possible peodilhile...the Beatles....ALL drug abusers. They all worked hard though at their craft of making music and bringing things to music that didn't previously exist.

All great rockers tho(except elves...Bleh). This is about rock and roll....not about who do u want your kid to grow up and be

If it were the dancers hall fame...I'd be all about Janet. Janet can't play shit and can't sing a lick...if that bitch gets in its disgraceful. Any act on that list should get in before Janet. Any musical credibility brought to music under the Janet brand was by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. All Janet did was sing shiftily and shake her ass and push her titties out.

If Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis all already in(which I doubt) then Janet's kind if in by proxy with them.
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Lmao!!! You sound hella bitter. What did Janet do to you? When she gets in I wish I could see the look on your face. Since you feel that Chaka deserves to be in why don't you spent your time voting for her instead of bashing Janet. In the mean time GO JANET Go!!!! You keep the haters hatin'.
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Reply #248 posted 10/26/15 8:28pm

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jackson35 said:

where was janet fan base when she was cancelling shows left and right because of slow tickets sales? chaka never had to cancel shows. where was the fan base when she was black listed for tidday gate at the super bowl? chakanever had to pull out her breast at asporting event. face it she is only being considered bacause michael is her brother


Lol! You are all over the place. You love to post non-facts and then when you're checked for it you move on to something else. I have been a Janet fan since "Different Strokes". And I have always supported Janet through all that sh*t. So yes it feels damn good to see her album go to #1 and to have her once again selling out arenas. Which is something Jackie, Tito, Jermiane, and Marlon have yet to do. It's interesting you bring up her last name because all of them have that last name. But all of them don't have the same level of success. So if her last name is selling her success....where is everybody with the last name Jackson...where is their career success. Cause I don't see it.
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Reply #249 posted 10/26/15 8:40pm

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BlackCat1985 said:

I'm talking long term success...Staying power.

Not what you said. You said they had no success after Mike left, which would be in 1984. That's at least 5 or 6 years for Jermaine at least, up until the Don't Take It Personal album in 1989. The last album he released in 1991 had a couple of songs hit the Top 30 on the R&B chart. Then he didn't release another album until a couple of years ago, which was jazz standards. He just released a new song


You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #250 posted 10/26/15 9:03pm

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LOL Whew some of you are MAD. I knew this nomination would get many of you heated. I can't wait till December!
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Reply #251 posted 10/26/15 9:48pm

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Pete Rose should be in the Hall...oh sorry, wrong Hall.

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Reply #252 posted 10/27/15 2:37am

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BlackCat1985 said:

BobGeorge909 said:


It's the rrhof....not the moral leaders of America hall of fame...


Sly, junkie....Elvis, junkie...Nirvana, junkie... jimi...death by junkie....Janis, beath by junkie... James Brown, junkie and abuser, like, junkie and abuser....Santana, ex Junie, Jerry Lee Lewis, peodophile...ray Charles, junkie, phanderer...Michael Jackson,junkie, possible peodilhile...the Beatles....ALL drug abusers. They all worked hard though at their craft of making music and bringing things to music that didn't previously exist.

All great rockers tho(except elves...Bleh). This is about rock and roll....not about who do u want your kid to grow up and be

If it were the dancers hall fame...I'd be all about Janet. Janet can't play shit and can't sing a lick...if that bitch gets in its disgraceful. Any act on that list should get in before Janet. Any musical credibility brought to music under the Janet brand was by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. All Janet did was sing shiftily and shake her ass and push her titties out.

If Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis all already in(which I doubt) then Janet's kind if in by proxy with them.
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Lmao!!! You sound hella bitter. What did Janet do to you? When she gets in I wish I could see the look on your face. Since you feel that Chaka deserves to be in why don't you spent your time voting for her instead of bashing Janet. In the mean time GO JANET Go!!!! You keep the haters hatin'.
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Bitter? Cuz I crack a couple jokes about a laughable 'musician,' I'm bitter? Janet ain't don't shit to me. She's a great woman. Looks fine(I had my rolling stone cover poster hanging on my wall) and is a disciplined dancer. I have nothing against that. It amuses me that because some people think she dances well and lent her last name to a brand, some think she's a genuine contender. She very well may be elected, but a hall worthy musician she is not. But bitter? No.

What I may be bitter about is people heavily discounting GREAT contributions to the world of music and performance because moral shortcomings in order to justify someone with GREAT artistic shortcomings and percieved moral strengths.

My confidence lies in the musicians and performers who look at this list and the inductees know music and music history and will understand the reasoning behind Janet's appearance within the names she's surrounded by and will understand it's not there because she a great singer, songwriter, or musician. In all three of those areas, Janet has a MASSIVELY obvious lack of skill and itnwill be understood despite her name appearing on some RarHOF plaque somewhere.

Give her some humanitarian award or something, that's a good idea. The reason shed get induc ed into the rrhof isn't cuz she writes great songs, is a disciplined and influential musician, or even a rock solid performed....it'd be because her last name is Jackson....Miss Jackson if you're nasty.

Kirky J's a better musician that Janet Jackson. I'm not bitter however, just amused at degree of subjectivity induction judges allow for, in order to keep slave owners happy.


As for Chaka, I'm not all 'bout it 'bout it in regards to her getting inducted either, but she did a helluva lot more to earn thatbthan miss Jackson.



...lol...Janet Jackson in the rrhof...lol....that's a RIOT. My asscheeks and sphincter sing better than she does.
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Reply #253 posted 10/27/15 2:45am

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jackson35 said:

so lip syching, not being able to carry a tune and pretending to be a writer on your biggest hit is?


Temptations don't wtite any of their music and Bob Dylan has a terrible voice, but they're in.

Bob Dylan wrote some of the best songs ever recorded and the temps could sing the pants off of any one. Janet can't do either. Janet's out sung by billybgoats and couldn't write a song to to keep her brother off of sleepy time milk. And staying off the sleepy time milk is easy...I thinks there's only 1-2 instances of people dying from an addiction to propofol
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Reply #254 posted 10/27/15 5:19am

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Lmao!!! You sound hella bitter. What did Janet do to you? When she gets in I wish I could see the look on your face. Since you feel that Chaka deserves to be in why don't you spent your time voting for her instead of bashing Janet. In the mean time GO JANET Go!!!! You keep the haters hatin'.
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Bitter? Cuz I crack a couple jokes about a laughable 'musician,' I'm bitter? Janet ain't don't shit to me. She's a great woman. Looks fine(I had my rolling stone cover poster hanging on my wall) and is a disciplined dancer. I have nothing against that. It amuses me that because some people think she dances well and lent her last name to a brand, some think she's a genuine contender. She very well may be elected, but a hall worthy musician she is not. But bitter? No.

What I may be bitter about is people heavily discounting GREAT contributions to the world of music and performance because moral shortcomings in order to justify someone with GREAT artistic shortcomings and percieved moral strengths.

My confidence lies in the musicians and performers who look at this list and the inductees know music and music history and will understand the reasoning behind Janet's appearance within the names she's surrounded by and will understand it's not there because she a great singer, songwriter, or musician. In all three of those areas, Janet has a MASSIVELY obvious lack of skill and itnwill be understood despite her name appearing on some RarHOF plaque somewhere.

Give her some humanitarian award or something, that's a good idea. The reason shed get induc ed into the rrhof isn't cuz she writes great songs, is a disciplined and influential musician, or even a rock solid performed....it'd be because her last name is Jackson....Miss Jackson if you're nasty.

Kirky J's a better musician that Janet Jackson. I'm not bitter however, just amused at degree of subjectivity induction judges allow for, in order to keep slave owners happy.


As for Chaka, I'm not all 'bout it 'bout it in regards to her getting inducted either, but she did a helluva lot more to earn thatbthan miss Jackson.



...lol...Janet Jackson in the rrhof...lol....that's a RIOT. My asscheeks and sphincter sing better than she does.

You are bitter. When one has to call a woman out of her name " if that BITCH gets in it would be a disgrace". Yeah you said that. Just because she may not be your cup of tea...that doesn't make her useless. And Janet deserves to get in just as well as Chaka does. You will not get me to disrespect another woman just because you disrespected another one.
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Reply #255 posted 10/27/15 5:23am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:


Temptations don't wtite any of their music and Bob Dylan has a terrible voice, but they're in.

Bob Dylan wrote some of the best songs ever recorded and the temps could sing the pants off of any one. Janet can't do either. Janet's out sung by billybgoats and couldn't write a song to to keep her brother off of sleepy time milk. And staying off the sleepy time milk is easy...I thinks there's only 1-2 instances of people dying from an addiction to propofol

And now here you go dragging Mike into this. Propofol ain't got sh*t to do with this....
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Reply #256 posted 10/27/15 6:28am

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jackson35 said:

where was janet fan base when she was cancelling shows left and right because of slow tickets sales? chaka never had to cancel shows. where was the fan base when she was black listed for tidday gate at the super bowl? chakanever had to pull out her breast at asporting event. face it she is only being considered bacause michael is her brother

rolleyes

First of all if you are going to say anything about Janet. Post facts! Janet cancelled her Rock witchu tour shows. Because she has migrane-associated vertigo .Also I love Chaka. But that was a horrible example. Chaka was so coked out during her heydays that she had her background singers,namely the late Vesta Williams singing all her vocals & high notes. While she lipsynced.

IF SHE SHOWED UP AT ALL! Didn't Janet's late brother MJ FAKE a nervous breakdown & had Liz Taylor cover for him to prevent from finishing a tour?....rolleyes

Chaka was coked out just like an overwhelming majority of Rockers, R&B singers, Jazz musicians and rappers back in the 70's, 80's, 90's and today. Vesta only toured with Chaka during the 1983-1984 "Chaka Khan" tour. And I have never heard anyone say Chaka lipsynced during any tour. I've been to dozens of her shows since the 80's and her vocals were always 100% live. I know people who have been going to see Chaka shows since 1973. I've heard Chaka is awful voice but she never performed to a pre-recorded vocal track to cover it up. I have NEVER heard Janet sing live. Everytime it's a lipsync. I know you're all bent out of shape because you are a Janet fan. I enjoy Janet also. But anyone comparing Janet and Chaka in any way, shape or form is like comparing apples to oranges. Chaka is a legendery singer, not really an entertainer. Janet is a legendary entertainer, not really respected much as a singer. Let's be real here.

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Reply #257 posted 10/27/15 6:59am

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Unknown Janet facts:

Janet Jackson holds the record for the MOST Soul Train Awards won with THIRT33N wins..

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #258 posted 10/27/15 9:21am

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BlackCat1985 said:

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Bob Dylan wrote some of the best songs ever recorded and the temps could sing the pants off of any one. Janet can't do either. Janet's out sung by billybgoats and couldn't write a song to to keep her brother off of sleepy time milk. And staying off the sleepy time milk is easy...I thinks there's only 1-2 instances of people dying from an addiction to propofol

And now here you go dragging Mike into this. Propofol ain't got sh*t to do with this....

Just like Janet shouldn't have shit to do with the rrhof?
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Reply #259 posted 10/27/15 9:59am

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1 chaka being drunk or coke up is a better performance then watching janet lipsych for 3 hours in a big venue. 2 i will janet be still be able to play venues when she hits 50 like her brothers i wonder? 3 i'm still waiting for someone to tell me why should she get in over chaka?

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Reply #260 posted 10/27/15 10:03am

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Why do people keep talking about Janet & Chaka? What about Los Lobos? I don't think there's many Latino acts in the hall.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #261 posted 10/27/15 1:13pm

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1 chaka being drunk or coke up is a better performance then watching janet lipsych for 3 hours in a big venue. 2 i will janet be still be able to play venues when she hits 50 like her brothers i wonder? 3 i'm still waiting for someone to tell me why should she get in over chaka?

Janet will still be on tour next May when she turns 50, when she comes back here again. Which I will be attending again..Janet has had a very successful recording career for over 30 YEARS! She has actually been more successful than Chaka. Also an accomplished actress with FOUR NUMBER #1 MOVIES under her belt. Chaka has only danced on "Dancing with The Stars" which she was recently booted off..

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #262 posted 10/27/15 4:52pm

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rolleyes Comparing Janet to Chaka Khan is like comparing apples and oranges.They are two completely different artists!
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Reply #263 posted 10/27/15 8:51pm

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Janet has actually been more successful than Chaka. Chaka has only danced on "Dancing with The Stars" which she was recently booted off..

How dare you try to downplay Chaka's awesome career mad Since 1973,she has been one of the greatest singers in the funk/R&B world.She has influenced numerous other female artists (Mary J. Blige,for example).I get that you're a Janet stan,but I don't see why that means you must talk shit about Chaka.You should be rooting for both of them to get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.Ask Prince,Stevie Wonder or Quincy Jones what they think of Chaka.They will tell you that she's one of the most amazing artists ever.

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Reply #264 posted 10/27/15 9:09pm

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I have absolutely NOTHING against Chaka! I was just making a point to Jackson35. That is the person you should be criticizing. Chaka is one of my favorite singers. prince learned how to vocal harmonize listening to her. I'm done with the whole thing now!

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #265 posted 10/28/15 12:20am

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janet jackson has been doing the same music for years, while chaka has done every type of genre know to the world.

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Reply #266 posted 10/28/15 4:49am

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Reply #267 posted 10/28/15 4:58am

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Reply #268 posted 10/28/15 1:47pm

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JanFan said:

LOL Whew some of you are MAD. I knew this nomination would get many of you heated. I can't wait till December!



lol I knew it too when I created this thread that the haters would soon be in here in droves. The funny thing is, all of their yap-flappin' won't change the fact that Janet Damita Jo Jackson is deservedly and finally nominated for the RNRHOF, and that she got the nomination during an era where she garnered a 7th #1 album that put her in the record books (and since a #1 album is something that has recently eluded some of their faves), and a sold-out world tour. I'm beginning to think that this Jackson35 person is the same annoying troll who was booted off of here several months back, returning with a different (obviously) screen nick. Well, suck it, haters. Janet is nominated and there isn't a damn thing any of you can do about it. lol
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Reply #269 posted 10/28/15 4:57pm

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i was never booted out of prince.org for what? stating facts??? janet is a dope artist but she is not rrhof material. she didn't bring anything new to the game.

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