Legend? Probably in bed with that sweet, sexy music of his, that's what

I only see him called legend on the org. Most people i know outside of the org... except for a few. Know him for Untitled and that's about it. There maybe a few industry people who feel he's ''legendary'' but people think Katy Perry & Rihanna are legendary too. So that's not really saying much.

scriptgirl said:

Everytime a mention is made of D now, the terms icon and legend come up. Now you know I love the D, but I was just wondering at what point did he become a legend (not disagreeing) and why?

After 1 listen of Brown Sugar.

Miles said:

deebee said:

As in: "Legend has it that the mythical creature called the D'Angelo roams his studio by night, possessed by the spirit of deceased soul singers, and condemned to continue recording an album for all eternity, or at least until his curse is lifted. Believers say one day this album shall be released into the world and shall cause a great storm in the souls of men, though others say this is just a fairy tale."

Personally, I think he became a 'legend' after apparently having serious drug and legal issues for years (serious drug problems and disappearing from public sight for a number of years always seem to help in the 'legend' stakes for some reason) and lo, come the tenth anniversary of the release of Voodoo with no follow-up in sight, the Org did declaim Michael Eugene Archer a LEGEND.

It was then that the John the Baptist for D'angelo's 'second coming', one Questlove Thompson, did turn around and did spake, 'The new album is 99.99999999999999999 % done and will definitely be released sometime this century'.

IMO - Two good albums in 19 years maketh a legend not ...

He's not the Messiah; he's a very naughty boy!

Yeah, I'm not sure about 'legend' status just yet. Maybe a couple more solid albums to consolidate his legacy, at least. For now, though, I'd just be happy if he finally got his shit together and released this damn album before the End of Days. (I'm a believer that he will!)

Miles said:

deebee said:

As in: "Legend has it that the mythical creature called the D'Angelo roams his studio by night, possessed by the spirit of deceased soul singers, and condemned to continue recording an album for all eternity, or at least until his curse is lifted. Believers say one day this album shall be released into the world and shall cause a great storm in the souls of men, though others say this is just a fairy tale."

Personally, I think he became a 'legend' after apparently having serious drug and legal issues for years (serious drug problems and disappearing from public sight for a number of years always seem to help in the 'legend' stakes for some reason) and lo, come the tenth anniversary of the release of Voodoo with no follow-up in sight, the Org did declaim Michael Eugene Archer a LEGEND.

It was then that the John the Baptist for D'angelo's 'second coming', one Questlove Thompson, did turn around and did spake, 'The new album is 99.99999999999999999 % done and will definitely be released sometime this century'.

IMO - Two good albums in 19 years maketh a legend not ...

Y'all have NO sense,

And the angelic Leeds, he who doth manage tours, spoketh unto the faithful saying "fear not, for I bring you good tidings of great new music which shall be unto all people who speaketh his name, Michael Eugene Archer, thus sayeth the Org.

Two dudes held out as "legends" here on the Org are D'Angelo and Van Hunt. I have never heard a D'Angelo song. Or a Van Hunt song.

I should listen to D'Angelo some time but I will never, ever listen to Van Hunt. Not after what he said about us Prince fans.

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RodeoSchro said:

Two dudes held out as "legends" here on the Org are D'Angelo and Van Hunt. I have never heard a D'Angelo song. Or a Van Hunt song.

I should listen to D'Angelo some time but I will never, ever listen to Van Hunt. Not after what he said about us Prince fans.

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OK, I listened to "Brown Sugar". I don't get the hype. Carry on.

How bout listening to more than ONE song. How bout the whole Voodoo cd?

scriptgirl said:

How bout listening to more than ONE song. How bout the whole Voodoo cd?

>

Give it up.

scriptgirl said:

How bout listening to more than ONE song. How bout the whole Voodoo cd?

I've seen D live and I have been as close as u can get without actually being in the band.

Dude has some major skills as a musician.

scriptgirl said:

How bout listening to more than ONE song. How bout the whole Voodoo cd?

Well, a couple posters said specifically it was "Brown Sugar" that made him a legend, so I listened to that song.

But tell me your honest opinion - do you think "Brown Sugar" is the best song on that album?

RodeoSchro said:

scriptgirl said:

How bout listening to more than ONE song. How bout the whole Voodoo cd?

Well, a couple posters said specifically it was "Brown Sugar" that made him a legend, so I listened to that song.

But tell me your honest opinion - do you think "Brown Sugar" is the best song on that album?

LOL, "Brown Sugar" isn't even on the Voodoo album. OK, I will listen to the Voodoo album tonight. But regardless of how great it is, I agree with the posters who say approximately 2.5 albums' worth of material in 20 years does not a legend make.

I think the New Radicals album "Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too" was, hands-down, the best album of the entire 1990's. And yet, Gregg Alexander retired from music after releasing it, and never released another album.

Does creating the best album of an entire decade make him a legend? No, not in my opinion. But it does make him the creator of a legendary album.

scriptgirl said:

Everytime a mention is made of D now, the terms icon and legend come up. Now you know I love the D, but I was just wondering at what point did he become a legend (not disagreeing) and why?

D is nowhere near a legend from his official released work.

That said, dude put puts on a serious live show.

D's live shows. Good lord. He is someone that has been touched by God, that's for damn sure.

Rodeo, I KNOW brown sugar is not on Voodoo, but I am saying to listen to more than that one song.

scriptgirl said:

D's live shows. Good lord. He is someone that has been touched by God, that's for damn sure.

Rodeo, I KNOW brown sugar is not on Voodoo, but I am saying to listen to more than that one song.

OK, cool. But remember - art is subjective. If I don't end up thinking D'Angelo's all that, it shouldn't mean a thing to you. I wouldn't be criticizing your opinion of D'Angelo. I'd just be saying he doesn't trip my trigger.

CynicKill said:

scriptgirl said:

How bout listening to more than ONE song. How bout the whole Voodoo cd?

>

Give it up.

Y'all got me in stitches,

Graycap23 said:

scriptgirl said:

Everytime a mention is made of D now, the terms icon and legend come up. Now you know I love the D, but I was just wondering at what point did he become a legend (not disagreeing) and why?

D is nowhere near a legend from his official released work.

That said, dude put puts on a serious live show.

He's a gifted artist but even he would balk at somebody suggesting anything more.

RodeoSchro said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

RodeoSchro said:

Two dudes held out as "legends" here on the Org are D'Angelo and Van Hunt. I have never heard a D'Angelo song. Or a Van Hunt song.

I should listen to D'Angelo some time but I will never, ever listen to Van Hunt. Not after what he said about us Prince fans.

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Van Hunt isn't legendary, he comes from the school of D'Angelo.

Van Hunt is not a legend yet. But that's only because the populace is stupid and need another

generation or two to recognize supreme talent.

And he does not come from the school of D'Angelo. Van Hunt writes songs. D'Angelo writes

vamps. That is one difference. Another difference is their approach to lyrics. For D'Angelo,

lyrics are an after-thought. For Van Hunt, they are just as integral to a song as the chord

progression is. D'Angelo incorporates hip hop production sensibilities while constructing albums.

Van Hunt's studiocraft relies upon the same production techniques heard on soul/R&B albums in

the 70s. Hunt's latest album sounds as if it was produced by Nigel Godrich - this is something else

to reckon with! And finally, Van Hunt writes and releases albums. Since Voodoo was released,

Van Hunt has offered three full lengths while a fourth and unreleased album (Popular) is better

than anything Prince has written after 1987.

In terms of album production and overall artistry, I think Van Hunt is closer to Curtis Mayfield,

Sly Stone, and Thelonious Monk with an ear for pop. D'Angelo is closer to Prince, gospel,

hip-hop and does not seem to have a knack (or care) for a hook.

The two couldn't be anymore discrete.

RodeoSchro said:

...I will never, ever listen to Van Hunt. Not after what he said about us Prince fans.

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Who the fuck cares what Van Hunt thinks about Prince's fans? Why would that prevent you from

experiencing good art? Let's say that what you think Van Hunt said about Prince's fans were

true, do you honestly think that means his art sucks? You act like he said something disparaging

about Jesus the Christ.

Artists talk shit about other artists and their fans all the time. Get over it, go find Popular and

have your mind blown.

Anyways, even though I think D'Angelo is overrated (Voodoo is not as good as the mystique

built into it) as he's an average song-writer with an average amount of musicianship, I await

his new album, even if this is done stupidly.

duccichucka said:

WHy do you think and how do you know that lyrics are an afterthought for D?

I dig D'Angelo, but this brother must enjoy the most easily conferred legendary status of all time.

It seems all one has to do to become a "legend" these days is produce a spattering of works just slightly better than those of one's contemporaries... then tease for years that more is coming... then let folks' anticipation do the rest.

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Check out "Me & those Dreaming eyes of mine" specifically the vocals.

RodeoSchro said:

scriptgirl said:

How bout listening to more than ONE song. How bout the whole Voodoo cd?

Well, a couple posters said specifically it was "Brown Sugar" that made him a legend, so I listened to that song.

But tell me your honest opinion - do you think "Brown Sugar" is the best song on that album?

Lammastide said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

duccichucka said:

Van Hunt is not a legend yet. But that's only because the populace is stupid and need another

generation or two to recognize supreme talent.

And he does not come from the school of D'Angelo. Van Hunt writes songs. D'Angelo writes

vamps. That is one difference. Another difference is their approach to lyrics. For D'Angelo,

lyrics are an after-thought. For Van Hunt, they are just as integral to a song as the chord

progression is. D'Angelo incorporates hip hop production sensibilities while constructing albums.

Van Hunt's studiocraft relies upon the same production techniques heard on soul/R&B albums in

the 70s. Hunt's latest album sounds as if it was produced by Nigel Godrich - this is something else

to reckon with! And finally, Van Hunt writes and releases albums. Since Voodoo was released,

Van Hunt has offered three full lengths while a fourth and unreleased album (Popular) is better

than anything Prince has written after 1987.

In terms of album production and overall artistry, I think Van Hunt is closer to Curtis Mayfield,

Sly Stone, and Thelonious Monk with an ear for pop. D'Angelo is closer to Prince, gospel,

hip-hop and does not seem to have a knack (or care) for a hook.

The two couldn't be anymore discrete.

I should have said Van was able to make ome noise partly do to D's success. I can't see Van as a legend, he has a cult like following like Shuggie Otis.

Yes, D'Angelo's success (along with Maxwell and Lauryn Hill) allowed modern day R&B artists

with 1970s aesthetics a chance to survive. You're right about that, Blue. Remember, Van

Hunt wrote Dionne Farris' tune "Hopeless" which is directly related to the neo-soul explosion

birthed by the three aforementioned.

And you're also right about Van Hunt's following currently being closer to the following that

Shuggie Otis has. If Van Hunt doesn't gain legendary status outside of a cult following, he's

in good company: Bach was largely forgotten for hundreds of years after his death. But there's

hope for Van Hunt - I have to believe that someone with his talent shouldn't remain unknown.

Anyways, the reason why Van Hunt isn't popular around these parts is because he's intelligent.

I feel that words such as "Legend" and "Diva" in today's entertainment scenes are highly mis-used. And for the record, a "diva" IS NOT "the female version of a hustlah." Sorry, Beyonce. Divas are classy, talented and beloved for decades. Sadly today, such a decadent word has been cheapened beyond belief by mainstream mis-usage. Besides, give Bernadette Cooper her props. She resurrected this once gorgeous word and once Klymaxx climaxed, it became the buzzword of the century and was ultimately destroyed and lost in "street" vernacular. Stevie Wonder is a Legend. Shirley Bassey, a "diva." MY two cents worth.

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