Tittypants said:

What's your favorite MJ Jacket?

1. 

I love all the jackets but I probably would have to go with the Dangerous Jacket and Beat It one.

Timmy84 said:

Once again Joseph Walter Jackson proves how much of a "caring father" he is.

Joe Jackson today signed a marketing agreement with Manuela Koschker and Don Stardy of UD Group International for the Global Production of
Joe Jackson: Champagne, Ice Cream, Jellys, Lollys, Cosmetique, Jewelry and Fashion (Children and Adult Clothing)

Mr. Jackson was very impressed with the extremely high quality and attention to detail that the UD Group employed in producing unique and elegant designs of the various products.

UD Group International confirmed production was already underway and would be hitting stores near you later this same year.

(What a load of crock)

The fucking presentation:

Close your mouth, why does he always have his mouth open???

Update from the group:

UD Group Wins Against MJ Estate


An initial injunction and court case filed by the Trustees of Michael Jackson Estate (John Branca ) to block UD Group International from producing and selling Merchandise with the MJ logo and further contesting the ownership of the MJ Logo copyright has been thrown out of court by a German Judge under the grounds that the Estates Arguments were baseless and the UD Group had amble proof of ownership.

Mr. Don Stardy in an E-mail to clients confirmed today that with this blockage lifted his establishment UD Group International is moving full throttle ahead producing various incredible merchandises with the MJ LOGO. They will be coming to stores all around the world very soon.

For more on the story visit their official pageby clicking here

An article from earlier this year:

Joe Jackson today signed a marketing agreement with Manuela Koschker and Don Stardy of UD Group International for the Global Production of
Joe Jackson: Champagne, Ice Cream, Jellys, Lollys, Cosmetique, Jewelry and Fashion (Children and Adult Clothing)

Mr. Jackson was very impressed with the extremely high quality and attention to detail that the UD Group employed in producing unique and elegant designs of the various products.

UD Group International confirmed production was already underway and would be hitting stores near you later this sa

BULLSHIT!!!!

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Anyways... when is someone gonna tell the Jackson family to sit the fuck down and stop selling their son/brother's name?

A lot of folks need that talk

Frank Cascio is releasing a book this November and think Karen Faye was selling a book to publishers too. David Gest's special "The Real Michael Jackson" is coming out and then of course we have Jermaine's book in September

Unbelievable. BTW, I didn't know Karen was trying to sell a book, too. With this, all those people are losing my respect. This is so low. I wonder how those books are going to turn out. Especially Jermaine's one. I guess it won't be pretty cause I've heard publishers are not interested in positive Jackson books.

Tittypants said:

What's your favorite MJ Jacket?

THE CAPTAIN EO ONE!!!!!

Actually I've always loved that entire costume. I know I can't have it though. But I need that rainbow t-shirt in mah life.

MOL said:

mozfonky said:

I thought the question was more along the lines of how much more music would he have released and the quality of it more than "would it have outsold thriller?". No one will outsell thriller again, forget about it. But his career would have went a lot different had he not had to deal with the vilification that he did. Just like Ali's would have if he hadn't had his career interrupted for his prime years. James Baldwin conjectured way back in the 80's about how Michaels future would go and brought up the fact that America has usually been unforgiving of black exceptionalism. Like I said, look what they're doing to tiger, white people like you when they want to like you and throw you away when they want to. Tiger bought into that and that's why you see his sorry ass, sad mug on Yahoo every other day trumpeting another loss or misfortune. It's funny as hell to me, Tiger was a fool and anyone else is a fool who believes their own hype.

I read your post before this and I couldn't help but think about blacks overusing the race card. I know many people in this sticky are black but let's reach a conclusion here: there's nothing racist about how Tiger has been treated. He was a certified sex addict who had sexual relationships with everything that had a skirt on. That is precisely why people/media treat him the way he's been treated. Society usually treats low lives poorly, as it should be. Unless you find it normal to praise low lives and sex addicts who fuck everything that moves, I don't think there's a racist component here. It's like the black community claiming anyone who criticizes Joe is just a racist.

You may not realize it, but by defending people like Tiger and Joe Jackson, blacks lose their credibility and, mainly, the respect the media tries so hard to give them out of fear of the race card argument. In my country, if anyone dares to say anything bad about blacks, as true as it may be, you'll be met with "you're a racist" insults. Blacks can murder: if you accuse them of murder you'll be called a racist. Blacks don't have to stand in lines: if you complain, you're a racist. Blacks have a right not to pay bills and taxes: if you complain, you're a racist. Blacks receive money from the government without working a hour: if you raise your hand about the issue, you'll be called a racist. Blacks can misbehave in school: if the teacher disciplines them, she/himwill be met with a disciplinary process for being a racist. Blacks can act like wild animals in public places: if you tell them to act properly, you are a racist.

The other day, a black guy insulted an old lady because she knocked on the bus' door, thinking she had lost it. When said lady answered the guy (in a classy manner, shall I add) she was met with "you're a racist" insults. That's the way it is: blacks want to be put on a pedestal using the race card. They think they have more rights than everybody else and no duties and anyone who wants them to apply to the rules is a "racist".

I have NOTHING against blacks: no one is superior to anybody else based on the colour of the skin, but I am TIRED of the race card. Michael Jackson was a humanitarian with a heart of gold but don't expect the media to treat him well after the bizarre antics and accusation he was the subject to. I know he didn't molest anyone but that's the way it is. Tiger Woods is a low life who spent his days fucking women.

I guess society is also racist against whites because, after all, Bush is ridiculed and criticized to this day, right? So, is the media racist against whites? Is racism agaisnt whites a phenomenom, too? I'd like to read your answer on that.

PS- I do think racism is horrible and I am uncapable of understanding it. It's also horrible to read some things about how blacks used to be treated: I can't get why people do that.

[Edited 7/29/11 9:36am]

Racial issues and the race card is for the other forum -----> P&R. Let's not derail the thread

"What's your favorite jacket?"

All of 'em especially the glittery black jackets he wore during "Billie Jean" and the Pepsi "Bad" commercial, and the leather red-zipper jackets from "Beat It" and "Thriller"...MAINLY.

armpit said:

Tittypants said:

What's your favorite MJ Jacket?

THE CAPTAIN EO ONE!!!!!

Actually I've always loved that entire costume. I know I can't have it though. But I need that rainbow t-shirt in mah life.

You can get that t-shirt, Just google it. I found it before on the internet.

dag said:

bboy87 said:

A lot of folks need that talk

Frank Cascio is releasing a book this November and think Karen Faye was selling a book to publishers too. David Gest's special "The Real Michael Jackson" is coming out and then of course we have Jermaine's book in September

Unbelievable. BTW, I didn't know Karen was trying to sell a book, too. With this, all those people are losing my respect. This is so low. I wonder how those books are going to turn out. Especially Jermaine's one. I guess it won't be pretty cause I've heard publishers are not interested in positive Jackson books.

Playing devil's advocate here. As long as the books are positive, what's wrong with these folks than did at least know MJ writing books? It seems better to have their books out there than books from these assholes that hate MJ.

mookie said:

dag said:

Unbelievable. BTW, I didn't know Karen was trying to sell a book, too. With this, all those people are losing my respect. This is so low. I wonder how those books are going to turn out. Especially Jermaine's one. I guess it won't be pretty cause I've heard publishers are not interested in positive Jackson books.

Playing devil's advocate here. As long as the books are positive, what's wrong with these folks than did at least know MJ writing books? It seems better to have their books out there than books from these assholes that hate MJ.

I can speak for myself only, but as a fan of many great men, I have mixed feelings about books being released. Elvis has had books by just about everyone in his inner circle, some hagiographic, others beastly, but some of the men, you just never thought they would sell out Elvis, as With Muhammad Ali, or any public figure. It's just dissapointing sometimes. I had a mentor who was Bruce Lee's best friend Taky Kimura (I know it's hard to believe but look him up) he swore to Bruce never to sell him out, never to prostitute his art, well, knowing him as well as I got to know him, and also knowing that he was the only one that close to bruce not to "sell out" it was still dissapointing to come to a personal realization that he was just as greedy, selfish and ego driven as anyone. In fact, he has a book out for 50 bucks based on personal letters from bruce, odd thing is, I distinctly remember him telling me that he burned all correspondence from Bruce as a philosophical point. Anyway, I don't have much faith to lose in people anymore and I don't mind it so much and I learn something from all the Elvis/bruce/michael books I read. All give different aspects. I only hate when the gossip in these books hurts the men's legacies and tries to show they were of poor character, and every great man has those stories.

mozfonky said:

mookie said:

Playing devil's advocate here. As long as the books are positive, what's wrong with these folks than did at least know MJ writing books? It seems better to have their books out there than books from these assholes that hate MJ.

I can speak for myself only, but as a fan of many great men, I have mixed feelings about books being released. Elvis has had books by just about everyone in his inner circle, some hagiographic, others beastly, but some of the men, you just never thought they would sell out Elvis, as With Muhammad Ali, or any public figure. It's just dissapointing sometimes. I had a mentor who was Bruce Lee's best friend Taky Kimura (I know it's hard to believe but look him up) he swore to Bruce never to sell him out, never to prostitute his art, well, knowing him as well as I got to know him, and also knowing that he was the only one that close to bruce not to "sell out" it was still dissapointing to come to a personal realization that he was just as greedy, selfish and ego driven as anyone. In fact, he has a book out for 50 bucks based on personal letters from bruce, odd thing is, I distinctly remember him telling me that he burned all correspondence from Bruce as a philosophical point. Anyway, I don't have much faith to lose in people anymore and I don't mind it so much and I learn something from all the Elvis/bruce/michael books I read. All give different aspects. I only hate when the gossip in these books hurts the men's legacies and tries to show they were of poor character, and every great man has those stories.

My feelings exactly and it's likely ALL the books would be positive but I still think it's kinda like "why?" Why even go through all of that especially concerning Michael? Karen may say some outlandish shit, Jermaine may try to explain why he fell for Randy's chick, the Cascio boy, who knows what the hell he says? And does anyone care about David Gest?

Well malcolm x recently had a horrible bio released which alleges pretty much things so far out of character and potentially damaging that I'm glad it just sort of fell off everyone's radar. the author, a "top black scholar" didn't want to demonize him but to "humanize" him, yeah right, how many times have I heard that shit. That asshole wanted to make money and with black scholars and leaders there is almost always a competitive thing going on with any other black leader or scholar. Supposedly Malcolm snitched out his best friend for a lighter sentence, tricked for gay men, one of whom he suppossedly tried to get his sentence reduced with his help, had an affair with an 18 year old right before he was killed (which is preposterous, if the FBI couldn't nail Malcolm on something, what makes an author who wasn't even there think he can?) Anyway, the problem with bios, after awhile, they have to become more outlandish, more tabloidy because it becomes a thing of "you think you know so and so? wait till you read this by his close personal aide". New books have to up the ante. Was a time when Ali had few books on his life, most of them pretty well balanced or leaning towards hagiography, but after that market got exhausted, the rotten books started coming out about 12 years ago which are so slanted they really have limited relevance. Thing is, the stories are so at odds that there is no way that they could all be true, ali for example, will simultaneously be a genius/borderline retard, absentee father/great father, exploiter of 16 year old girls/good husband. the stories become mutually exclusive, as readers we have to have the critical acuity to seperate the wheat from the chaff. Michael has not even begun to go through this phase that we're talking about but he will.

Tittypants said:

What's your favorite MJ Jacket?

1. 

I love them all. They each have there own memories attached.

The bios only sell if we the fans buy them. Most people in the general public aren't that interested. So where as during his life the scandalous books were the ones publishers thought were needed, now since his passing there is a greater acceptance of positive ones mainly becuase they know there is a buck to be made.

So this person Nathan Jay made this song "Take Me Away" by putting together clips of Michael's vocals. A short clip of his work in progress was posted in one of the older threads, now the whole song is finished:

I have to give him points for creativity.

[Edited 7/30/11 21:25pm]

NaughtyKitty said:

So this person Nathan Jay made this song "Take Me Away" by putting together clips of Michael's vocals. A short clip of his work in progress was posted in one of the older threads, now the whole song is finished:

I have to give him points for creativity.

[Edited 7/30/11 21:25pm]

I think he did a good job considering the work that was put into it.

mozfonky said:

I can speak for myself only, but as a fan of many great men, I have mixed feelings about books being released. Elvis has had books by just about everyone in his inner circle, some hagiographic, others beastly, but some of the men, you just never thought they would sell out Elvis, as With Muhammad Ali, or any public figure. It's just dissapointing sometimes. I had a mentor who was Bruce Lee's best friend Taky Kimura (I know it's hard to believe but look him up) he swore to Bruce never to sell him out, never to prostitute his art, well, knowing him as well as I got to know him, and also knowing that he was the only one that close to bruce not to "sell out" it was still dissapointing to come to a personal realization that he was just as greedy, selfish and ego driven as anyone. In fact, he has a book out for 50 bucks based on personal letters from bruce, odd thing is, I distinctly remember him telling me that he burned all correspondence from Bruce as a philosophical point. Anyway, I don't have much faith to lose in people anymore and I don't mind it so much and I learn something from all the Elvis/bruce/michael books I read. All give different aspects. I only hate when the gossip in these books hurts the men's legacies and tries to show they were of poor character, and every great man has those stories.

I understand what you're saying.

Militant said:

Chris Tucker tells a funn...July 2011.

George: Here’s what I like. the first time I saw you do stand-up there was a lot of Michael Jackson dancing, really a great impression of him. And then I just found out recently that you guys were pretty good friends.

Chris : Oh yeah man. I was blessed man. You know to grow up and to meet somebody I idolized and admired so much and become his friend. I was in one of his videos and stuff. Just love Michael. We became friends and I hang out with him a lot.

Michael was just so nice. You’ll be around him, you’ll just get happy. He would give you anything if you liked something.
I was just complimenting a flat screen TV and he gave it to me. (laughter)
I was like “Michael I didn’t want the TV” (laughter)
But then the black came out of me and I started liking everything there. (laughter and applause)
I said “Michael I like that Rolls Royce. That’s a bad Rolls Royce. Not the old one , the new Rolls Royce, right there” (laughter continues)
He was like (mimicking Michael) ” You like it Chris?”
I said “Yeah I like it”
He said (mimicking Michael) ” You sure you like it? “
I said “Yeah I like it”
He said (mimicking Michael) “You better go buy one, because I ain’t giving you no Rolls Royce. I gave you a TV, damn”.

Here's a video.

Militant said:

Chris Tucker tells a funn...July 2011.

George: Here’s what I like. the first time I saw you do stand-up there was a lot of Michael Jackson dancing, really a great impression of him. And then I just found out recently that you guys were pretty good friends.

Chris : Oh yeah man. I was blessed man. You know to grow up and to meet somebody I idolized and admired so much and become his friend. I was in one of his videos and stuff. Just love Michael. We became friends and I hang out with him a lot.

Michael was just so nice. You’ll be around him, you’ll just get happy. He would give you anything if you liked something.
I was just complimenting a flat screen TV and he gave it to me. (laughter)
I was like “Michael I didn’t want the TV” (laughter)
But then the black came out of me and I started liking everything there. (laughter and applause)
I said “Michael I like that Rolls Royce. That’s a bad Rolls Royce. Not the old one , the new Rolls Royce, right there” (laughter continues)
He was like (mimicking Michael) ” You like it Chris?”
I said “Yeah I like it”
He said (mimicking Michael) ” You sure you like it? “
I said “Yeah I like it”
He said (mimicking Michael) “You better go buy one, because I ain’t giving you no Rolls Royce. I gave you a TV, damn”.

3 days to go for the register for tickets at the MJ "Tribute" show and still no list of who is performing.

I'm putting money on it all be "rescheduled" and dying quietly.

Swa said:

3 days to go for the register for tickets at the MJ "Tribute" show and still no list of who is performing.

I'm putting money on it all be "rescheduled" and dying quietly.

I don't even think there will be a "reschedule". It'll just DIE.

I meant resheduled in the way Jermaine's was, lol.

What a sham.

Swa said:

I meant resheduled in the way Jermaine's was, lol.

What a sham.

I doubt it.

Militant said:

Chris Tucker tells a funn...July 2011.

George: Here’s what I like. the first time I saw you do stand-up there was a lot of Michael Jackson dancing, really a great impression of him. And then I just found out recently that you guys were pretty good friends.

Chris : Oh yeah man. I was blessed man. You know to grow up and to meet somebody I idolized and admired so much and become his friend. I was in one of his videos and stuff. Just love Michael. We became friends and I hang out with him a lot.

Michael was just so nice. You’ll be around him, you’ll just get happy. He would give you anything if you liked something.
I was just complimenting a flat screen TV and he gave it to me. (laughter)
I was like “Michael I didn’t want the TV” (laughter)
But then the black came out of me and I started liking everything there. (laughter and applause)
I said “Michael I like that Rolls Royce. That’s a bad Rolls Royce. Not the old one , the new Rolls Royce, right there” (laughter continues)
He was like (mimicking Michael) ” You like it Chris?”
I said “Yeah I like it”
He said (mimicking Michael) ” You sure you like it? “
I said “Yeah I like it”
He said (mimicking Michael) “You better go buy one, because I ain’t giving you no Rolls Royce. I gave you a TV, damn”.

mozfonky said:

Well malcolm x recently had a horrible bio released which alleges pretty much things so far out of character and potentially damaging that I'm glad it just sort of fell off everyone's radar. the author, a "top black scholar" didn't want to demonize him but to "humanize" him, yeah right, how many times have I heard that shit. That asshole wanted to make money and with black scholars and leaders there is almost always a competitive thing going on with any other black leader or scholar. Supposedly Malcolm snitched out his best friend for a lighter sentence, tricked for gay men, one of whom he suppossedly tried to get his sentence reduced with his help, had an affair with an 18 year old right before he was killed (which is preposterous, if the FBI couldn't nail Malcolm on something, what makes an author who wasn't even there think he can?) Anyway, the problem with bios, after awhile, they have to become more outlandish, more tabloidy because it becomes a thing of "you think you know so and so? wait till you read this by his close personal aide". New books have to up the ante. Was a time when Ali had few books on his life, most of them pretty well balanced or leaning towards hagiography, but after that market got exhausted, the rotten books started coming out about 12 years ago which are so slanted they really have limited relevance. Thing is, the stories are so at odds that there is no way that they could all be true, ali for example, will simultaneously be a genius/borderline retard, absentee father/great father, exploiter of 16 year old girls/good husband. the stories become mutually exclusive, as readers we have to have the critical acuity to seperate the wheat from the chaff. Michael has not even begun to go through this phase that we're talking about but he will.

smh... I heard about that Malcolm X bullish as well... Michael is going through that now with all these drug mess and the inaccurrate depiction of him. Ive always found it laughable how people claim to have known someone AFTER they have passed away and feel they know them well enough to write a damn book on their ENTIRE life..

Militant said:

Chris Tucker tells a funn...July 2011.

George: Here’s what I like. the first time I saw you do stand-up there was a lot of Michael Jackson dancing, really a great impression of him. And then I just found out recently that you guys were pretty good friends.

Chris : Oh yeah man. I was blessed man. You know to grow up and to meet somebody I idolized and admired so much and become his friend. I was in one of his videos and stuff. Just love Michael. We became friends and I hang out with him a lot.

Michael was just so nice. You’ll be around him, you’ll just get happy. He would give you anything if you liked something.
I was just complimenting a flat screen TV and he gave it to me. (laughter)
I was like “Michael I didn’t want the TV” (laughter)
But then the black came out of me and I started liking everything there. (laughter and applause)
I said “Michael I like that Rolls Royce. That’s a bad Rolls Royce. Not the old one , the new Rolls Royce, right there” (laughter continues)
He was like (mimicking Michael) ” You like it Chris?”
I said “Yeah I like it”
He said (mimicking Michael) ” You sure you like it? “
I said “Yeah I like it”
He said (mimicking Michael) “You better go buy one, because I ain’t giving you no Rolls Royce. I gave you a TV, damn”.

zhare said:

Militant said:

Chris Tucker tells a funn...July 2011.

Is Chris concentrating on stand up now? Feels like I haven't seen a film with him since Rush Hour 3??

Does anyone know the year "Slave to the Rythm" was recorded? It reminds me of a sort of sequel/prequel to "Do You Know Where Your Children Are". Anyone know if it's from the Dangerous session?