Michael's "flops" in sales were still the kind of figures many of the big hitter stars would have kiled for.

The press just loved to point out his new album never sold as much as Thriller - though failing to point out no-one else was even coming close to those kind of sales. As soon as someone had 5+m in sales the press would be lauding their achievements - MJ would kick in a "measely" 9million and he was a failure, lol.

[Edited 7/28/11 15:03pm]

Just incase it was missed on the last post of the last thread....

If anyone else is collecting the MJ Panini set org not me as I have a few multiples you might need and potentially you might have some I need - rather than sell online I'd rather trade with fans.

Org not me if you are collecting and interested in trades.

Swa said:

Michael's "flops" in sales where still the kind of figures many of the big hitter stars would have kiled for.

Yup.

Michael Jackson: Two Years Since His Death How Much Has He Sold?

source: http://www.billboard.biz/...1752.story

Swa said:

Michael Jackson: Two Years Since His Death How Much Has He Sold?

June 25, 2011

By Keith Caulfield, Los Angeles

While it's been two years since Michael Jackson died on June 25, 2009, his solo catalog of music continues to post solid numbers in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

From his passing through the week ending June 19, 2011, Jackson's tracks have sold 16.3 million downloads while his albums have shifted 10.6 million copies.

The King of Pop's post-death album sales account for 33% of his cumulative SoundScan-era (1991 through present) album tally (32.3 million).

"Number Ones" is the artist's biggest-selling album since his passing, as it has moved 2.74 million. Jackson's 2009 "This Is It" soundtrack companion album of the same name is in second place with 1.67 million. Next in line are "Thriller" (1.49), "The Essential Michael Jackson" (1.38) and "Bad" (550,000).

In terms of track sales since Jackson died, his top five best selling tracks are "Billie Jean" (1.26 million), "Man in the Mirror" (1.23), "Beat It" (1.11), "Thriller" (1.04) and "Smooth Criminal" (872,000). That lineup is similar to his overall best-sellers (including sales generated pre-death): "Thriller" (2.28 million), "Billie Jean" (2.18), "Beat It" (1.84), "Man in the Mirror" (1.54) and "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" (1.43).

While certainly the bulk of Jackson's post-death sales came in 2009, interest in his work has continued to post solid numbers. From his death until the end of 2009, he sold 11 million tracks and 8 million albums. In 2010: 3.7 million tracks and 2.1 million albums.

Jackson's 2010 album sales were bolstered by the release of his posthumous studio set "Michael," in December. So far, that album has sold a total of 503,000. ("Michael" finished 2010 as the year's 74th biggest seller, four slots above "Number Ones," which moved 388,000 in 2010 vs. "Michael's" 405,000.)

Now, in 2011, his sales stand -- year-to-date -- at 1.6 million tracks and 500,000 albums. At this rate, with all things being equal, Jackson could manage a total of 3 million tracks and 1 million albums for the full year.

source: http://www.billboard.biz/...1752.story

Swa said:

Just incase it was missed on the last post of the last thread....

If anyone else is collecting the MJ Panini set org not me as I have a few multiples you might need and potentially you might have some I need - rather than sell online I'd rather trade with fans.

Org not me if you are collecting and interested in trades.

The swirly stuff at the bottom kind of ruins those for me, because it looks completely random and unnecessary and clashes with everything else.

motownlover said:

bboy87 said:

Since this thread is going in an unexpected direction....

I wanted to know what do you guys think should be released by the Estate and Sony. They have about 7 more releases in the deal. What would you like to see released?

Just like everyone else a 2nd leg bad tour dvd in good quality. I dont care for the music anymore cause they are going to update it anyway. Best song of michael was behind the mask , a song over 25 years old thats says enough . Michaels post humous career is not a flattering one in terms of quality

Hhe sone as ethe songase the songs in the original form? Would you be interested in the songs if they were released "as is"?

Why is it when labels release material of R&B and hip hop artists after they pass, they do they feel the need to "update" the material?

" Answer to your question , i would be interested of the songs where in original state > its ok to copy paste a chorus or so but replacing the instrumentation , vocal speed , or the vocals thats just wack. I havent bought a copy of michael , or anyting pas the ultimate collection and if they dont release propper tour dvds this will stay that way

Tittypants said:

Without the sex scandals, how do you think MJ's career would've gone?

Think about how different "HIStory" would've been minus all of that controversy he dealt with. Would he have released more music than he did? Heck, do you think he would still be alive right now if those cases wouldn't have happen?

Please, let's discuss this.....

I'm going to tell you my honest opinion, if it weren't that accusation it would have been something else. I know you white people do not want to hear it but it pisses me off, this is a racist country and a country where black men have to pay for being that successful in one way or the other. Look at what they are doing to Tiger! I don't see shit wrong with what tiger did that should be the public's business but he ripe for a backlash and it's just white people showing all the envy and jealousy they concealed for so long, only they would never admit how racist they are. They skewer him for doing something that nearly all straight men do in his position. So, I think Mike would have had to deal with something else but it would have been something. And I believe he would have put out more quality music, none of us can imagine how much those accusations took out of him. He did some fine music in spite of it but he didn't put out very much. Anyone who's ever dealt with the legal system will tell you that it's one of the most stressfull things a person can deal with, takes years off a mans life.

Nvncible1 said:

I know this isn't mike...and im not really into impersonators...but dude here totally NAILED the differences of dancing style through the eras.

The interview was funny as hell for some reason lol

at the 1:35 mark

Lol @ the answer to the plastic surgery question wtf! " when he spin...he spin...ALOT!"

- 10points for the bow hair pin

[Edited 7/28/11 9:52am]

I almost fell off my chair when I saw that hair bow

Swa said:

Just incase it was missed on the last post of the last thread....

If anyone else is collecting the MJ Panini set org not me as I have a few multiples you might need and potentially you might have some I need - rather than sell online I'd rather trade with fans.

Org not me if you are collecting and interested in trades.

Hi Swa!

I am collecting these,which ones are you looking for?

mozfonky said:

Tittypants said:

Without the sex scandals, how do you think MJ's career would've gone?

Think about how different "HIStory" would've been minus all of that controversy he dealt with. Would he have released more music than he did? Heck, do you think he would still be alive right now if those cases wouldn't have happen?

Please, let's discuss this.....

I'm going to tell you my honest opinion, if it weren't that accusation it would have been something else. I know you white people do not want to hear it but it pisses me off, this is a racist country and a country where black men have to pay for being that successful in one way or the other. Look at what they are doing to Tiger! I don't see shit wrong with what tiger did that should be the public's business but he ripe for a backlash and it's just white people showing all the envy and jealousy they concealed for so long, only they would never admit how racist they are. They skewer him for doing something that nearly all straight men do in his position. So, I think Mike would have had to deal with something else but it would have been something. And I believe he would have put out more quality music, none of us can imagine how much those accusations took out of him. He did some fine music in spite of it but he didn't put out very much. Anyone who's ever dealt with the legal system will tell you that it's one of the most stressfull things a person can deal with, takes years off a mans life.

...Honestly, I don't even think it's a race thing, either.

No matter what, after so long every artist's popularity and sales start to decline, that's just the nature of things. That would've happened, allegations or no and actually I think it had already started a wee bit before the first allegations even surfaced.

armpit said:

mozfonky said:

I'm going to tell you my honest opinion, if it weren't that accusation it would have been something else. I know you white people do not want to hear it but it pisses me off, this is a racist country and a country where black men have to pay for being that successful in one way or the other. Look at what they are doing to Tiger! I don't see shit wrong with what tiger did that should be the public's business but he ripe for a backlash and it's just white people showing all the envy and jealousy they concealed for so long, only they would never admit how racist they are. They skewer him for doing something that nearly all straight men do in his position. So, I think Mike would have had to deal with something else but it would have been something. And I believe he would have put out more quality music, none of us can imagine how much those accusations took out of him. He did some fine music in spite of it but he didn't put out very much. Anyone who's ever dealt with the legal system will tell you that it's one of the most stressfull things a person can deal with, takes years off a mans life.

...Honestly, I don't even think it's a race thing, either.

No matter what, after so long every artist's popularity and sales start to decline, that's just the nature of things. That would've happened, allegations or no and actually I think it had already started a wee bit before the first allegations even surfaced.

Whether or not we want to admit it Armpit, I hate to say this, but I do think race plays a role in pretty much anything that goes on in America. Bill O'reilly, Woody Allen, Maury Povich etc. have all been involved in various scandals, but no one seems to remember theirs. Plaxico Buress & Mike Vick went to jail for some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen, but Casey Anthony is free......

-Dangerous would've been the 10th and final single from the Dangerous album

-The Dangerous Tour would've reached Australia and possibly the US

-Michael would've been involved in the Aadams Family Values movie and soundtrack instead of the producers cutting all ties with him and using him as a gag in the movie

-Ghosts would've been released in 1994

-The planned greatest album would've been released

Then there's the MidKnight film, the cancelled Moonwalker 2 video game (does anyone else remember this?)

Speaking of critics, this is from '91

[img:$uid]http://0101.nccdn.net/1_5/010/120/11a/1217973735741345.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://0101.nccdn.net/1_5/010/120/11a/12179737361722340.jpg[/img:$uid]

more articles from 1991-92

http://www.the-michael-jackson-archives.com/dangerousreviews.html

http://www.the-michael-jackson-archives.com/dangerousreviewspart2.html

Tittypants said:

armpit said:

...Honestly, I don't even think it's a race thing, either.

No matter what, after so long every artist's popularity and sales start to decline, that's just the nature of things. That would've happened, allegations or no and actually I think it had already started a wee bit before the first allegations even surfaced.

Whether or not we want to admit it Armpit, I hate to say this, but I do think race plays a role in pretty much anything that goes on in America. Bill O'reilly, Woody Allen, Maury Povich etc. have all been involved in various scandals, but no one seems to remember theirs. Plaxico Buress & Mike Vick went to jail for some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen, but Casey Anthony is free......

*facepalm* ...I'm black. I know racism is a real phenomenon. I've been on the receiving end of it; so have a lot of my family and other people I've known.

But honestly, not everything is about race. If you insist on blaming a loss of popularity on the allegations - it's not because of race, it's because of the nature of the accusations. It's not like a scandals where people got blowjobs in the Oval Office or something. These were child abuse allegations.

And sure, Anthony went free but her life isn't going to be a cakewalk from here on out, not by a longshot.

But like I said in my last post, the fact of the matter is that MJ's sales and popularity were starting to slide before the allegations. Yes, I know Dangerous sold a shitload of copies, but even so it wasn't pulling the kind of numbers "Thriller" and "Bad" did. And actually "Bad" sold way less than "Thriller"....

armpit said:

Tittypants said:

Whether or not we want to admit it Armpit, I hate to say this, but I do think race plays a role in pretty much anything that goes on in America. Bill O'reilly, Woody Allen, Maury Povich etc. have all been involved in various scandals, but no one seems to remember theirs. Plaxico Buress & Mike Vick went to jail for some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen, but Casey Anthony is free......

*facepalm* ...I'm black. I know racism is a real phenomenon. I've been on the receiving end of it; so have a lot of my family and other people I've known.

But honestly, not everything is about race. If you insist on blaming a loss of popularity on the allegations - it's not because of race, it's because of the nature of the accusations. It's not like a scandals where people got blowjobs in the Oval Office or something. These were child abuse allegations.

And sure, Anthony went free but her life isn't going to be a cakewalk from here on out, not by a longshot.

But like I said in my last post, the fact of the matter is that MJ's sales and popularity were starting to slide before the allegations. Yes, I know Dangerous sold a shitload of copies, but even so it wasn't pulling the kind of numbers "Thriller" and "Bad" did. And actually "Bad" sold way less than "Thriller"....

Ummm... didn't Dangerous actually outsell Bad in total worldwide sales??

MattyJam said:

armpit said:

*facepalm* ...I'm black. I know racism is a real phenomenon. I've been on the receiving end of it; so have a lot of my family and other people I've known.

But honestly, not everything is about race. If you insist on blaming a loss of popularity on the allegations - it's not because of race, it's because of the nature of the accusations. It's not like a scandals where people got blowjobs in the Oval Office or something. These were child abuse allegations.

And sure, Anthony went free but her life isn't going to be a cakewalk from here on out, not by a longshot.

But like I said in my last post, the fact of the matter is that MJ's sales and popularity were starting to slide before the allegations. Yes, I know Dangerous sold a shitload of copies, but even so it wasn't pulling the kind of numbers "Thriller" and "Bad" did. And actually "Bad" sold way less than "Thriller"....

Ummm... didn't Dangerous actually outsell Bad in total worldwide sales??

Yes it did. And it was 7% more popular internationally than Bad was.

armpit said:

Tittypants said:

Whether or not we want to admit it Armpit, I hate to say this, but I do think race plays a role in pretty much anything that goes on in America. Bill O'reilly, Woody Allen, Maury Povich etc. have all been involved in various scandals, but no one seems to remember theirs. Plaxico Buress & Mike Vick went to jail for some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen, but Casey Anthony is free......

*facepalm* ...I'm black. I know racism is a real phenomenon. I've been on the receiving end of it; so have a lot of my family and other people I've known.

But honestly, not everything is about race. If you insist on blaming a loss of popularity on the allegations - it's not because of race, it's because of the nature of the accusations. It's not like a scandals where people got blowjobs in the Oval Office or something. These were child abuse allegations.

And sure, Anthony went free but her life isn't going to be a cakewalk from here on out, not by a longshot.

But like I said in my last post, the fact of the matter is that MJ's sales and popularity were starting to slide before the allegations. Yes, I know Dangerous sold a shitload of copies, but even so it wasn't pulling the kind of numbers "Thriller" and "Bad" did. And actually "Bad" sold way less than "Thriller"....

I still think without those "child molestation" charges, the only things you could say about MJ was how weird he was, or about his physical changes. Woody Allen married his adopted daughter, & you rarely ever hear about it. I've dealt with racism a lot in my life too, so I'm right there with you on that. But how can child molestation charges not affect your career? That is the lowest thing you can do imho. MJ might not have been selling "Thriller" type sales before that happened, but it's hard to recapture that. Without those charges on him, I guarantee that he would've sold more records then he did of anything he released after "Dangerous". Personally, I still think MJ was set-up by "those who shall not be named"...

[Edited 7/29/11 6:34am]

smoothcriminal12 said:

MattyJam said:

Ummm... didn't Dangerous actually outsell Bad in total worldwide sales??

Yes it did. And it was 7% more popular internationally than Bad was.

'Dangerous' was a damn good album imho. It's funny, the only album that MJ ever disappointed me with was 'Invincible'. It was just so dated & lackluster to me.....

bboy87 said:

the cancelled Moonwalker 2 video game (does anyone else remember this?)

wh-wh-wh-WHAT????

More info, STAT.

I played that damn game like every day growing up. Even now I can tell you of the top of my head, which kids you need to rescue first on which level in order to make the shooting star fall down so you can turn into Robot-Michael.

I never heard about a sequel.

Tittypants said:

armpit said:

*facepalm* ...I'm black. I know racism is a real phenomenon. I've been on the receiving end of it; so have a lot of my family and other people I've known.

But honestly, not everything is about race. If you insist on blaming a loss of popularity on the allegations - it's not because of race, it's because of the nature of the accusations. It's not like a scandals where people got blowjobs in the Oval Office or something. These were child abuse allegations.

And sure, Anthony went free but her life isn't going to be a cakewalk from here on out, not by a longshot.

But like I said in my last post, the fact of the matter is that MJ's sales and popularity were starting to slide before the allegations. Yes, I know Dangerous sold a shitload of copies, but even so it wasn't pulling the kind of numbers "Thriller" and "Bad" did. And actually "Bad" sold way less than "Thriller"....

I still think without those "child molestation" charges, the only things you could say about MJ was how weird he was, or about his physical changes. Woody Allen married his adopted daughter, & you rarely ever hear about it. I've dealt with racism a lot in my life too, so I'm right there with you on that. But how can child molestation charges not affect your career? That is the lowest thing you can do imho. MJ might not have been selling "Thriller" type sales before that happened, but it's hard to recapture that. Without those charges on him, I guarantee that he would've sold more records then he did of anything he released after "Dangerous". Personally, I still think MJ was set-up by "those who shall not be named"...

[Edited 7/29/11 6:34am]

I thought the question was more along the lines of how much more music would he have released and the quality of it more than "would it have outsold thriller?". No one will outsell thriller again, forget about it. But his career would have went a lot different had he not had to deal with the vilification that he did. Just like Ali's would have if he hadn't had his career interrupted for his prime years. James Baldwin conjectured way back in the 80's about how Michaels future would go and brought up the fact that America has usually been unforgiving of black exceptionalism. Like I said, look what they're doing to tiger, white people like you when they want to like you and throw you away when they want to. Tiger bought into that and that's why you see his sorry ass, sad mug on Yahoo every other day trumpeting another loss or misfortune. It's funny as hell to me, Tiger was a fool and anyone else is a fool who believes their own hype.

mozfonky said:

Tittypants said:

I still think without those "child molestation" charges, the only things you could say about MJ was how weird he was, or about his physical changes. Woody Allen married his adopted daughter, & you rarely ever hear about it. I've dealt with racism a lot in my life too, so I'm right there with you on that. But how can child molestation charges not affect your career? That is the lowest thing you can do imho. MJ might not have been selling "Thriller" type sales before that happened, but it's hard to recapture that. Without those charges on him, I guarantee that he would've sold more records then he did of anything he released after "Dangerous". Personally, I still think MJ was set-up by "those who shall not be named"...

[Edited 7/29/11 6:34am]

I thought the question was more along the lines of how much more music would he have released and the quality of it more than "would it have outsold thriller?". No one will outsell thriller again, forget about it. But his career would have went a lot different had he not had to deal with the vilification that he did. Just like Ali's would have if he hadn't had his career interrupted for his prime years. James Baldwin conjectured way back in the 80's about how Michaels future would go and brought up the fact that America has usually been unforgiving of black exceptionalism. Like I said, look what they're doing to tiger, white people like you when they want to like you and throw you away when they want to. Tiger bought into that and that's why you see his sorry ass, sad mug on Yahoo every other day trumpeting another loss or misfortune. It's funny as hell to me, Tiger was a fool and anyone else is a fool who believes their own hype.

I read your post before this and I couldn't help but think about blacks overusing the race card. I know many people in this sticky are black but let's reach a conclusion here: there's nothing racist about how Tiger has been treated. He was a certified sex addict who had sexual relationships with everything that had a skirt on. That is precisely why people/media treat him the way he's been treated. Society usually treats low lives poorly, as it should be. Unless you find it normal to praise low lives and sex addicts who fuck everything that moves, I don't think there's a racist component here. It's like the black community claiming anyone who criticizes Joe is just a racist.

You may not realize it, but by defending people like Tiger and Joe Jackson, blacks lose their credibility and, mainly, the respect the media tries so hard to give them out of fear of the race card argument. In my country, if anyone dares to say anything bad about blacks, as true as it may be, you'll be met with "you're a racist" insults. Blacks can murder: if you accuse them of murder you'll be called a racist. Blacks don't have to stand in lines: if you complain, you're a racist. Blacks have a right not to pay bills and taxes: if you complain, you're a racist. Blacks receive money from the government without working a hour: if you raise your hand about the issue, you'll be called a racist. Blacks can misbehave in school: if the teacher disciplines them, she/himwill be met with a disciplinary process for being a racist. Blacks can act like wild animals in public places: if you tell them to act properly, you are a racist.

The other day, a black guy insulted an old lady because she knocked on the bus' door, thinking she had lost it. When said lady answered the guy (in a classy manner, shall I add) she was met with "you're a racist" insults. That's the way it is: blacks want to be put on a pedestal using the race card. They think they have more rights than everybody else and no duties and anyone who wants them to apply to the rules is a "racist".

I have NOTHING against blacks: no one is superior to anybody else based on the colour of the skin, but I am TIRED of the race card. Michael Jackson was a humanitarian with a heart of gold but don't expect the media to treat him well after the bizarre antics and accusation he was the subject to. I know he didn't molest anyone but that's the way it is. Tiger Woods is a low life who spent his days fucking women.

I guess society is also racist against whites because, after all, Bush is ridiculed and criticized to this day, right? So, is the media racist against whites? Is racism agaisnt whites a phenomenom, too? I'd like to read your answer on that.

PS- I do think racism is horrible and I am uncapable of understanding it. It's also horrible to read some things about how blacks used to be treated: I can't get why people do that.

[Edited 7/29/11 9:36am]

MOL said:

mozfonky said:

I thought the question was more along the lines of how much more music would he have released and the quality of it more than "would it have outsold thriller?". No one will outsell thriller again, forget about it. But his career would have went a lot different had he not had to deal with the vilification that he did. Just like Ali's would have if he hadn't had his career interrupted for his prime years. James Baldwin conjectured way back in the 80's about how Michaels future would go and brought up the fact that America has usually been unforgiving of black exceptionalism. Like I said, look what they're doing to tiger, white people like you when they want to like you and throw you away when they want to. Tiger bought into that and that's why you see his sorry ass, sad mug on Yahoo every other day trumpeting another loss or misfortune. It's funny as hell to me, Tiger was a fool and anyone else is a fool who believes their own hype.

I read your post before this and I couldn't help but think about blacks overusing the race card. I know many people in this sticky are black but let's reach a conclusion here: there's nothing racist about how Tiger has been treated. He was a certified sex addict who had sexual relationships with everything that had a skirt on. That is precisely why people/media treat him the way he's been treated.

[Edited 7/29/11 9:36am]

I agree with this. Tiger deserved all the criticism for his bad behavior and it had nothing to do with his race.

bboy87 said:

-Dangerous would've been the 10th and final single from the Dangerous album

-The Dangerous Tour would've reached Australia and possibly the US

-Michael would've been involved in the Aadams Family Values movie and soundtrack instead of the producers cutting all ties with him and using him as a gag in the movie

-Ghosts would've been released in 1994

-The planned greatest album would've been released

Then there's the MidKnight film, the cancelled Moonwalker 2 video game (does anyone else remember this?)

Speaking of critics, this is from '91

[img:$uid]http://0101.nccdn.net/1_5/010/120/11a/1217973735741345.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://0101.nccdn.net/1_5/010/120/11a/12179737361722340.jpg[/img:$uid]

more articles from 1991-92

http://www.the-michael-jackson-archives.com/dangerousreviews.html

http://www.the-michael-jackson-archives.com/dangerousreviewspart2.html

Yeah I remembered ALL of that... especially the Addams Family thing. And stories of him being a "flop" go back to the 1980s lol

Once again Joseph Walter Jackson proves how much of a "caring father" he is.

Joe Jackson today signed a marketing agreement with Manuela Koschker and Don Stardy of UD Group International for the Global Production of
Joe Jackson: Champagne, Ice Cream, Jellys, Lollys, Cosmetique, Jewelry and Fashion (Children and Adult Clothing)

Mr. Jackson was very impressed with the extremely high quality and attention to detail that the UD Group employed in producing unique and elegant designs of the various products.

UD Group International confirmed production was already underway and would be hitting stores near you later this same year.

(What a load of crock)

The fucking presentation:

Close your mouth, why does he always have his mouth open???

Update from the group:

UD Group Wins Against MJ Estate


An initial injunction and court case filed by the Trustees of Michael Jackson Estate (John Branca ) to block UD Group International from producing and selling Merchandise with the MJ logo and further contesting the ownership of the MJ Logo copyright has been thrown out of court by a German Judge under the grounds that the Estates Arguments were baseless and the UD Group had amble proof of ownership.

Mr. Don Stardy in an E-mail to clients confirmed today that with this blockage lifted his establishment UD Group International is moving full throttle ahead producing various incredible merchandises with the MJ LOGO. They will be coming to stores all around the world very soon.

For more on the story visit their official pageby clicking here

An article from earlier this year:

Joe Jackson today signed a marketing agreement with Manuela Koschker and Don Stardy of UD Group International for the Global Production of
Joe Jackson: Champagne, Ice Cream, Jellys, Lollys, Cosmetique, Jewelry and Fashion (Children and Adult Clothing)

Mr. Jackson was very impressed with the extremely high quality and attention to detail that the UD Group employed in producing unique and elegant designs of the various products.

UD Group International confirmed production was already underway and would be hitting stores near you later this sa

BULLSHIT!!!!

Umm I'm getting sick of some of the bullshit on here. For the record. If you use generalisations such white people and black people...it makes me question what you really think. People are individuals and responsible for their individual behaviour and not their entire race.

Timmy84 said:

Once again Joseph Walter Jackson proves how much of a "caring father" he is.

Joe Jackson today signed a marketing agreement with Manuela Koschker and Don Stardy of UD Group International for the Global Production of
Joe Jackson: Champagne, Ice Cream, Jellys, Lollys, Cosmetique, Jewelry and Fashion (Children and Adult Clothing)

Mr. Jackson was very impressed with the extremely high quality and attention to detail that the UD Group employed in producing unique and elegant designs of the various products.

UD Group International confirmed production was already underway and would be hitting stores near you later this same year.

(What a load of crock)

The fucking presentation:

Close your mouth, why does he always have his mouth open???

Update from the group:

UD Group Wins Against MJ Estate


An initial injunction and court case filed by the Trustees of Michael Jackson Estate (John Branca ) to block UD Group International from producing and selling Merchandise with the MJ logo and further contesting the ownership of the MJ Logo copyright has been thrown out of court by a German Judge under the grounds that the Estates Arguments were baseless and the UD Group had amble proof of ownership.

Mr. Don Stardy in an E-mail to clients confirmed today that with this blockage lifted his establishment UD Group International is moving full throttle ahead producing various incredible merchandises with the MJ LOGO. They will be coming to stores all around the world very soon.

For more on the story visit their official pageby clicking here

An article from earlier this year:

Joe Jackson today signed a marketing agreement with Manuela Koschker and Don Stardy of UD Group International for the Global Production of
Joe Jackson: Champagne, Ice Cream, Jellys, Lollys, Cosmetique, Jewelry and Fashion (Children and Adult Clothing)

Mr. Jackson was very impressed with the extremely high quality and attention to detail that the UD Group employed in producing unique and elegant designs of the various products.

UD Group International confirmed production was already underway and would be hitting stores near you later this sa

BULLSHIT!!!!

I often wish I had the $ to pay 4 ufc fighters to dress up in all black with ski masks, then sneak up on Joe Jackson at night & beat the living shit out of him. I would also want for them to record the beating & upload it to youtube with "Childhood" playing in the background....

GettOffMyLand said:

Umm I'm getting sick of some of the bullshit on here. For the record. If you use generalisations such white people and black people...it makes me question what you really think. People are individuals and responsible for their individual behaviour and not their entire race.

Didn't you read the sign "don't feed the you-know-whats". Pretend you didn't see that.

Tittypants said:

Timmy84 said:

Once again Joseph Walter Jackson proves how much of a "caring father" he is.

Joe Jackson today signed a marketing agreement with Manuela Koschker and Don Stardy of UD Group International for the Global Production of
Joe Jackson: Champagne, Ice Cream, Jellys, Lollys, Cosmetique, Jewelry and Fashion (Children and Adult Clothing)

Mr. Jackson was very impressed with the extremely high quality and attention to detail that the UD Group employed in producing unique and elegant designs of the various products.

UD Group International confirmed production was already underway and would be hitting stores near you later this same year.

(What a load of crock)

The fucking presentation:

Close your mouth, why does he always have his mouth open???

Update from the group:

BULLSHIT!!!!

I often wish I had the $ to pay 4 ufc fighters to dress up in all black with ski masks, then sneak up on Joe Jackson at night & beat the living shit out of him. I would also want for them to record the beating & upload it to youtube with "Childhood" playing in the background....

I hate wishing evil things on people who do stupid things but someone please tell Joe to sit the fuck down... damn. It ain't like he's even intimidating anymore. He's a fool and a clown at his age.

smoothcriminal12 said:

MattyJam said:

Ummm... didn't Dangerous actually outsell Bad in total worldwide sales??

Yes it did. And it was 7% more popular internationally than Bad was.

Sorry, then.

I'm a hell of an MJ fan, but I'm not that anal that I keep count of exactly how much each disc sold. I have...other things I think about, and all that jazz.

Yeah, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying the accusations didn't negatively affect his public image and career, I know they did. But what I am saying is, even if that whole situation never happened, he still wasn't pulling the numbers he used to anyway, and that decrease in sales would've continued regardless, because it happens to every artist, it's inevitable. No one rules the charts forever. According to the folks above, "Dangerous" outsold "Bad"; fine. But, it didn't outsell "Thriller"; no matter how you slice it, his sales were still already decreasing by that point.

I actually don't think he did deserve it. I felt like it was a very over-the-top reaction to something that was essentially a very private family situation and no one's business one way or the other; plus it struck me as incredibly hypocritical, because Tiger is in no way the first person to ever have an affair. I do agree that it wasn't racially-driven in nature, however - more that it was just a whole lot of people who had too much time on their hands, poking around in and judging the lives of people they do not know and would never meet. I kind of found the whole uproar about it really pathetic and vaguely creepy.

*sighs* Fuck it, I don't even feel like going into responding to this shit right now.

Timmy84 said:

Tittypants said:

I often wish I had the $ to pay 4 ufc fighters to dress up in all black with ski masks, then sneak up on Joe Jackson at night & beat the living shit out of him. I would also want for them to record the beating & upload it to youtube with "Childhood" playing in the background....

I hate wishing evil things on people who do stupid things but someone please tell Joe to sit the fuck down... damn. It ain't like he's even intimidating anymore. He's a fool and a clown at his age.

Joe Jackson is a disgrace. He has done so many dumb things, it ridiculous. I'll never get over when he was plugging his record label in his statement after MJ died. Absolutely pathetic !