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Reply #270 posted 02/09/09 1:35pm

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This whole thing is just awful. disbelief

It really is.....and unneccessary.
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Reply #271 posted 02/09/09 1:35pm

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What? confuse

Anyway... I'm saying an abusive environment has been established. That's what's key here. But to pin the allegations on a particular individual, it's probably a good policy to see something concrete. Those are serious charges.

so you really thought he would come straight out and say "my father beat my mother" when his father is still in his life? I also get the feeling as though Chris's father was not the only man that hit on his mother but he had some sort of respect for his father at one time.

Anyway, I wonder how many other celebs are getting beat on?


I really shouldn't expect anything, I suppose. But I imagine if my father physically abused my mother to the point that I regularly peed myself as a kid and felt compelled to speak out against domestic abuse even years later as a famous adult, I'd have no problem putting his stuff out there on front street -- even if I saw the man every single day. And I'd dare him to have a problem with it. neutral I do appreciate that abuse survivors may process things differently, though.

Now, assuming things are less tense between them, if Chris were really just trying not to implicate his dad in an abusive past, I'd think a more workable option would be to not bring up the sordid history at all to media inclined to dig and scrape for dirt. shrug Because Chris did choose to bring it up -- and because he actively volunteered, without even being asked, that his dad was not the victimizer he's referenced -- I offer the benefit of the doubt by believing Chris. To do otherwise with no real reason is really unfair to his father, if not to all parties involved.

But, yeah, I bet a LOT of celebs are getting abused -- if not physically, in a variety of other ways. And I bet, just like too many of us "normal folk," a lot of them saw abuse growing up. Very sad.
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Reply #272 posted 02/09/09 2:01pm

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disbelief

I don't have anything to say, it's a pity though.
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Reply #273 posted 02/09/09 2:04pm

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calldapplwondery83 said:




That's sick. How would that be anyone's business?

rolleyes Technically, NONE of this is anybody's business along with 99% of what is discussed on this site. But it's still all up for discussion since it's now a public matter involving public people. Ya'll kill me how you get selectively nosy about people's bizness and try to act all indignant and holier than though when there's nothing happening here that hasn't happened a thousand times before in a thousand other threads. If you don't wanna participate cool, but please, save the drama for ya mama and get off ya high horse. rolleyes
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There are things that are nobody's business and there are things that are
really nobody's business, IMO. And how would her possible disease be a "public matter"? And I'm not selectively nosy. I just can't or won't comment everytime I think something isn't someone's business. Didn't mean anyone here either, but rather whoever did those pictures and pointed out the blister.
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Reply #274 posted 02/09/09 3:36pm

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[b]WITNESS MAY HOLD THE KEY TO THIS CASE


A 911 call may be key in the alleged assault involving R&B performer Chris Brown and singer Rihanna. The call came from a witness who apparently had no idea he or she was stepping into a high-profile celebrity case.

LAPD sources say the witness, who remains unidentified, did not know entertainers were involved when reporting early Sunday morning that a violent altercation was taking place on a quiet Hancock Park street.

Detectives are still gathering evidence in the alleged assault and have not yet turned the case over to prosecutors, who will decide whether to file charges against Brown.

“As of right now, nothing has been presented,” said Jane Robison, a spokeswoman for the district attorney’s office.

Brown was booked Sunday on suspicion of making criminal threats and was released on $50,000 bail. Rihanna, whose real name is Robyn Rihanna Fenty, suffered visible injuries in the alleged altercation.

Brown and Rihanna had appeared together Saturday night at producer Clive Davis’ pre-Grammy gala in Beverly Hills. Police say the incident occurred afterward.

Both were up for multiple awards at the Sunday night ceremony, but neither attended. Brown, 19, turned himself into police after the show was underway.

Brown’s arraignment is currently slated for March 5. His attorney, Mark Geragos, did not immediately return calls. The rented Lamborghini Brown was driving is locked in an impound lot, police said.

A publicist for Barbados-born Rihanna, who sold more digital song downloads than anyone else in 2008 with nearly 10 million tracks, said Sunday night: “Rihanna is well. Thank you for your concern and support.”

Her song “Disturbia,” which she’d been scheduled to perform at the ceremony, was the sixth best-selling digital track of the year. She was replaced by veteran soul singer Al Green, who was accompanied by country singer-guitarist Keith Urban.

A spokesman for Brown’s record label did not respond to The Times’ request for comment. Brown finished 2008 as the fourth-best-selling artist in the digital realm, posting 6.8 million tracks sold, according to Nielsen SoundScan.











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Reply #275 posted 02/09/09 5:17pm

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NuPwr319 said:

SCNDLS said:


woot! You ain't said nuthin' but a word. Now. . . who needs an ass whuppin'??? hmmm
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talk to the hand Don't give her no $,1000--she'll just go buy some Manolos.

SCNDLS, you know it's true. . . . lol

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Reply #276 posted 02/09/09 5:22pm

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calldapplwondery83 said:

SCNDLS said:


rolleyes Technically, NONE of this is anybody's business along with 99% of what is discussed on this site. But it's still all up for discussion since it's now a public matter involving public people. Ya'll kill me how you get selectively nosy about people's bizness and try to act all indignant and holier than though when there's nothing happening here that hasn't happened a thousand times before in a thousand other threads. If you don't wanna participate cool, but please, save the drama for ya mama and get off ya high horse. rolleyes
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There are things that are nobody's business and there are things that are
really nobody's business, IMO. And how would her possible disease be a "public matter"? And I'm not selectively nosy. I just can't or won't comment everytime I think something isn't someone's business. Didn't mean anyone here either, but rather whoever did those pictures and pointed out the blister.

Ironically, the same media outlet that claims emphatically NOW, that her herpes status had nothing to do with this incident are in fact the same one's that ran story after story with picture after picture of her fever blisters. hmmm
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Reply #277 posted 02/09/09 5:36pm

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If this story is true and Rihanna refuses to press charges, they are both some dumb bitches that deserve each other.
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Reply #278 posted 02/09/09 6:36pm

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If this story is true and Rihanna refuses to press charges, they are both some dumb bitches that deserve each other.


State laws regarding domestic assault have undergone many changes in recent years. Today, such charges are frequently prosecuted even where the victim refuses to press charges or recants initial clams of abuse. I think the State of California has such provisions.
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Reply #279 posted 02/09/09 7:36pm

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And the fall beginnnzzz.....





lol


Yup. No matter what the whole story, Chris Brown is done. What trial he doesn't get in the court (even though he turned himself in), he's already been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. It works at the same speed the internet works.
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Reply #280 posted 02/09/09 7:44pm

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I don't know how true this is but according to www.mediatakeout.com they're saying that Rihanna is NOT going to press charges against Chris Brown.

http://www.mediatakeout.c...ators.html

February 09, 2009. MediaTakeOut.com just got some BREAKING NEWS. According to a person close to Rihanna, the R&B singer will not file criminal charges against R&B singer Chris Brown for assault and battery.

Last night, Chris Brown was arrested and released on $50,000 bail in connection with an alleged assault against R&B singer Rihanna Fenty. As MediaTakeOut.com reported to you yesterday, Chris and Rihanna got into a scuffle while leaving Saturday night’s Clive Davis’ Pre-Grammy party.

A person close to the situation told MediaTakeOut.com that the scuffle was caused by the couple’s recent break up. As MediaTakeOut.com reported to you weeks ago, the couple had been ratcheting down on their high-profile love affair. Numerous sources confirmed to MediaTakeOut.com that Chris wanted to END the relationship - but Rihanna didn’t.

We should be clear. It's not clear what occurred during the scuffle - or who did what to whom.

But things have changed since Saturday night. Now MediaTakeOut.com can EXCLUSIVELY report that Rihanna does NOT want Chris Brown to be criminally punished for the alleged assault. According to an EXTREMELY reliable insider, Rihanna is NO LONGER assisting investigators in their criminal case against Chris Brown.



If this statement from that site is true and accurate, all I can say is: "I knew that was going to happen....."


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Rihanna cooperating with police in assault investigations
6:33 PM, February 9, 2009
R&B star Rihanna is cooperating with investigators building a domestic violence case against her boyfriend, the singer Chris Brown, a police source said today.

The source said the 20-year-old performer, whose full name is Robyn Rihanna Fenty, is providing “ongoing” cooperation with detectives who booked Brown on Sunday on suspicion of making criminal threats against her.

An early-morning altercation with Brown following a pre-Grammy Awards party left Rihanna with bruises and a scratch to her face, according to police sources. Her injuries were treated at a “major medical facility,” a police source said.

Brown, a 19-year-old with a double-platinum record and dance moves frequently compared to those of Michael Jackson, had fled before officers arrived, police said.

He remained free on $50,000 bail, but neither he nor his attorney would speak about allegations that rocked the Grammys ceremony. Both Brown and Rihanna were nominated, but neither attended the ceremony.

The fight occurred after midnight on a quiet block in Hancock Park, where Brown had stopped a rented Lamborghini he was driving. According to police, several people saw or heard a loud, violent confrontation. The luxury car was impounded because the alleged assault may have begun in the vehicle, a police source said.



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Reply #281 posted 02/09/09 7:46pm

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This is just bizarre.
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Reply #282 posted 02/09/09 8:24pm

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Rihanna's Injuries -- "Horrific"
Posted Feb 9th 2009 10:30PM by TMZ Staff

Law enforcement sources have now gotten specific with us... police took pictures of Rihanna's injuries and they are "horrific."

As we reported, the photos show major contusions on both sides of the singer's face -- there is serious swelling and bruising. Her lip is split and her nose bloody. We have now confirmed there are bite marks on one of her arms and on several fingers.

And we now know this... Rihanna claims Brown struck her with his fists and that's what did the damage. There was no object used in the alleged attack.

Rihanna refused treatment at the scene, but before she left cops took photos. We're told the photos alone are "devastating proof of abuse."

And we've learned it was not Rihanna who called 911. Someone in the area heard her screams and called.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...-horrific/
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Reply #283 posted 02/09/09 8:30pm

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#1: This is fucked up in so many ways. I hate men who feel like it's okay to beat on a woman. I hate women who take that shit from men. I hate that they're so YOUNG w/ this shit. I hate that she has to be publicly humiliated. I'll really hate it if she takes his ass back. I wonder if either of them will learn anything from this?? I wonder how this will effect our already fucked up youth who adore these 2 people. It's just some seriously cold shit all around...

But I'mma end this shit on a brighter note - her shoes are killer fantastic here:





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Reply #284 posted 02/09/09 8:30pm

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He needs to rot. I don't condone physical abuse, but BITING ratchets it up to another level. The train has left the station and is pulling into CRAZYTOWN
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Reply #285 posted 02/09/09 8:38pm

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Reply #286 posted 02/09/09 8:55pm

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And his pants are down around his ass becaaaaause???? confused

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Reply #287 posted 02/09/09 8:58pm

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Timmy84 said:

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He could still be prosecuted even if she didn't press charges. They have enough evidence without her testimony and they aren't married so she has no privilege that would protect her from being subpoena'd.


And that's why Bobby got away with so much for fourteen years.



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Reply #288 posted 02/09/09 9:02pm

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CalhounSq said:

paisleypark4 said:


And his pants are down around his ass becaaaaause???? confused

Oy...

Cuz he's assuming the position??? hmmm
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Reply #289 posted 02/09/09 9:07pm

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Very very unfortunate. The both of them need professional help. Her for self esteem issues if she takes him back and he should have it for anger issues right along with jail time. I'm just glad they don't have kids involved in this shit.
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Reply #290 posted 02/09/09 9:08pm

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I don't know how the law is in California, but it Michigan, if you are charged with domestic violence, you are getting prosecuted regardless of what the victim wants to do. The state immediately takes over and the victim is just the witness.

And I see that he was charged with a felony. I wonder what he hit her with? Usually felonious assault is assault with a weapon or meaning to do great bodily harm.

Poor girl. I don't care for Rihanna's singing, but now she's no longer just another pop singer, but a battered woman, and I feel for her. Celebrity or not, I'm sure she was scared for her life when he was hitting her. I hope she has a strong support group around her that will make sure she leaves his ass alone.

Career wise, this will probably derail his. Didn't he have some endorsements? He will no doubt be dropped.


Felonious assault? He's a man.
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Reply #291 posted 02/09/09 9:13pm

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Rihanna's Injuries -- "Horrific"
Posted Feb 9th 2009 10:30PM by TMZ Staff

Law enforcement sources have now gotten specific with us... police took pictures of Rihanna's injuries and they are "horrific."

As we reported, the photos show major contusions on both sides of the singer's face -- there is serious swelling and bruising. Her lip is split and her nose bloody. We have now confirmed there are bite marks on one of her arms and on several fingers.

And we now know this... Rihanna claims Brown struck her with his fists and that's what did the damage. There was no object used in the alleged attack.

Rihanna refused treatment at the scene, but before she left cops took photos. We're told the photos alone are "devastating proof of abuse."

And we've learned it was not Rihanna who called 911. Someone in the area heard her screams and called.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...-horrific/



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Reply #292 posted 02/09/09 9:17pm

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I said this on another board and I will say this here too.

OT, but I hope they don't ask Bey her opinion on this. I can't see her being nice or sympathetic about this at all. I can see her saying something really judgemental. I also hope Solange doesn't speak up because judging by what happened at the VMAs or maybe it was the Grammys either last year or 2 years back, she can't stand Rihanna.
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Reply #293 posted 02/09/09 9:20pm

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Lammastide said:

zoetruluv said:


so you really thought he would come straight out and say "my father beat my mother" when his father is still in his life? I also get the feeling as though Chris's father was not the only man that hit on his mother but he had some sort of respect for his father at one time.

Anyway, I wonder how many other celebs are getting beat on?


I really shouldn't expect anything, I suppose. But I imagine if my father physically abused my mother to the point that I regularly peed myself as a kid and felt compelled to speak out against domestic abuse even years later as a famous adult, I'd have no problem putting his stuff out there on front street -- even if I saw the man every single day. And I'd dare him to have a problem with it. neutral I do appreciate that abuse survivors may process things differently, though.

Now, assuming things are less tense between them, if Chris were really just trying not to implicate his dad in an abusive past, I'd think a more workable option would be to not bring up the sordid history at all to media inclined to dig and scrape for dirt. shrug Because Chris did choose to bring it up -- and because he actively volunteered, without even being asked, that his dad was not the victimizer he's referenced -- I offer the benefit of the doubt by believing Chris. To do otherwise with no real reason is really unfair to his father, if not to all parties involved.

But, yeah, I bet a LOT of celebs are getting abused -- if not physically, in a variety of other ways. And I bet, just like too many of us "normal folk," a lot of them saw abuse growing up. Very sad.
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Reply #294 posted 02/09/09 9:23pm

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WaterInYourBath said:




If this statement from that site is true and accurate, all I can say is: "I knew that was going to happen....."


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Rihanna cooperating with police in assault investigations
6:33 PM, February 9, 2009
R&B star Rihanna is cooperating with investigators building a domestic violence case against her boyfriend, the singer Chris Brown, a police source said today.

The source said the 20-year-old performer, whose full name is Robyn Rihanna Fenty, is providing “ongoing” cooperation with detectives who booked Brown on Sunday on suspicion of making criminal threats against her.

An early-morning altercation with Brown following a pre-Grammy Awards party left Rihanna with bruises and a scratch to her face, according to police sources. Her injuries were treated at a “major medical facility,” a police source said.

Brown, a 19-year-old with a double-platinum record and dance moves frequently compared to those of Michael Jackson, had fled before officers arrived, police said.

He remained free on $50,000 bail, but neither he nor his attorney would speak about allegations that rocked the Grammys ceremony. Both Brown and Rihanna were nominated, but neither attended the ceremony.

The fight occurred after midnight on a quiet block in Hancock Park, where Brown had stopped a rented Lamborghini he was driving. According to police, several people saw or heard a loud, violent confrontation. The luxury car was impounded because the alleged assault may have begun in the vehicle, a police source said.



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Bullshit.
They did that so 1) they could search the car without a warrant, 2) hold it for 30 days knowing Chris Brown will be paying storage and rental fees, and 3) Chris Brown will be responsible for any 'damage' that happens to the vehicle.
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Reply #295 posted 02/09/09 9:38pm

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SUPRMAN said:
He could still be prosecuted even if she didn't press charges. They have enough evidence without her testimony and they aren't married so she has no privilege that would protect her from being subpoena'd.


Even if Rihanna changed her mind and begged the L.A. County District Attorney's office not to press charges against Chris Brown, there are too many mitigating factors for them not to do so. First of all, they have proof of serious injuries which can be pulled up, and second, it was a bystander who witnessed the assault in the first place and called 911, so it goes beyond just a simple domestic dispute into a public safety issue. Even if Chris Brown never intended to hurt anyone except Rihanna that night, because the incident happened on a public street, the LAPD would have to assume that anyone witnessing the assault would possibly be in danger as well, so that's why they could and would still file charges against him.

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Reply #296 posted 02/09/09 9:45pm

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Bite marks?
He must've been furious!
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Reply #297 posted 02/09/09 10:05pm

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CalhounSq said:

paisleypark4 said:


And his pants are down around his ass becaaaaause???? confused

Oy...

I was thinking the same thing you were lol
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Reply #298 posted 02/09/09 10:13pm

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I smell publicity stunt gone bad boxed

Bite marks are what females do i assume there was an other chick with them.

Sources are saying they broke up but went to the grammy party cause of there yes-men shrug Which we can tell by rihanna fake acting and chris looking like he doesn't want to be there with her.

They need to release something quick cause publicity or not it's not a good look for none of them.

And chris people is all ready acting on it saying she gave him Herpes hmmm
Rihanna people need to come hard and make like anna mae "Nice & Easy"
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Reply #299 posted 02/09/09 10:38pm

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SUPRMAN said:

Lammastide said:



I really shouldn't expect anything, I suppose. But I imagine if my father physically abused my mother to the point that I regularly peed myself as a kid and felt compelled to speak out against domestic abuse even years later as a famous adult, I'd have no problem putting his stuff out there on front street -- even if I saw the man every single day. And I'd dare him to have a problem with it. neutral I do appreciate that abuse survivors may process things differently, though.

Now, assuming things are less tense between them, if Chris were really just trying not to implicate his dad in an abusive past, I'd think a more workable option would be to not bring up the sordid history at all to media inclined to dig and scrape for dirt. shrug Because Chris did choose to bring it up -- and because he actively volunteered, without even being asked, that his dad was not the victimizer he's referenced -- I offer the benefit of the doubt by believing Chris. To do otherwise with no real reason is really unfair to his father, if not to all parties involved.

But, yeah, I bet a LOT of celebs are getting abused -- if not physically, in a variety of other ways. And I bet, just like too many of us "normal folk," a lot of them saw abuse growing up. Very sad.
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