Moonwalkbjrain said:

Yes, that's a poor message as well.

Rhondab said:

A dude @ work was flirting w/ me one time & went on to say, "DAMN, I wonder what you'd look like with your hair straight? You'd be FINE!"



Okay, I'm officially in love w/ your daughter for knowing that & you for raising her so beautifully I wish that for every little Black girl on the planet

SynthiaRose said:

And that's the point of this whole thread IMO. Even if she was trying to attain another version of Blackness, WHY is that? The desire for that comes from somewhere... a shitty, shitty place

this shit's STILL here?

anyways, my two bus tokens on this: the picture waaaaay up at the start of a thread sets off two things in my head:

1) obviously, that shit's been photoshopped beyond belief to make her look even more light-skinned than she is. i've seen the skin lightening-via-photoshop thing other times before. and speaking of skin lightening--or moreso, body modification...

2) brothas and sistas who think that their natural-born looks don't fit in accordance with society and their peers...they sadden me. everytime i walk into a beauty supply store and see tubes of skin lightening creams and what-not, it irks me. it's just like "WHY???" folks are beautiful, no matter what shade they were born with.

it's odd--when i was younger i was pretty much the star of the family. why? because i had "good hair"--long, thick, all of that. whenever my hair gets wet, it gets wavy and curls up. i remember folks asking me, "why's your hair get curly when it gets wet? are you mixed?" almost as if folks forgot that black hair is naturally curly as it is.

as for skin tones--when i was growing up, skin tone was of no importance to me or anyone else; my family comes in all shades of brown. my mom was light-skinned and my dad is dark-skinned. my skin falls in between the two contrasting shades. not once did i ever hear from anybody in my family (or ever heard, to boot) that "light is right" or anything of the sort. it's sad to see that other folks ain't really been raised the same way, or have been duped into thinking that the features they were born with aren't good enough.



fuck ambi edit
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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Thank you - that's what I'm saying. Stop trying to fit the "American" standard, and let your natural beauty shine. And that goes for other women of color.

Building a positive self-image starts in the home. I'm thankful I had smart parents who emphasized that "black is beautiful". I've dated sistas five shades lighter & five shades darker than me. It's all good.

CalhounSq said:

thanks Calhoun ma.....its not easy to raise a balanced kid. But Sydney understands a lot about who she is. It helps that her God father is white, one of her momma's best friend is puerto rican, she was basically raised with me working with gays/lesbians, her aunt is white, her momma is black and sane, etc her surroundings are multi-cultural and she understand that she fits everywhere she goes.

Sometimes i'm VERY surprised at what she says. She has even checked me on my comments. We were talking about this Indian woman who is the most famous movie star in India. I said, "wow, she doesn't look Indian to me. She looks Hispanic." Syd quickly said "so what, she's still Indian" She then said, "that's just like someone saying I'm not black enough because I'm light skinned. I'm just as black as you mom and that woman is just as Indian as a traditional looking Indian woman" Then I realized I've created a monster. She just doesn't like stereotypes because she's seen it all.

Plus having my mother ALWAYS saying "treat ppl as they treat you". That was her motto.

So far so good but I still have some years to go. I want to raise a SANE, healthy woman so I'm still not done yet. Bow Wow could show up and fuck up the whole program....lol

CalhounSq said:

EXACTLY. now if folks cant understand it - said plain like that - then imo they just dont wanna understand

THEY ALL WANNA LOOK LIKE EXOTIC WOMEN FROM SOME ISLAND SOMEPLACE


BLACK OR WHITE



I THINK KIMS PROBLEM IS SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE IDENTIFED AS NEW HOOD RAT MONEY


SHE'LL DO VIDEOS IN THE "HOOD" CAUSE THAT WHATS GONNA MAKE HER THE MONEY ...HOWEVER AT THE END OF THE DAY SHE DEALS WITH PEOPLE WHO GREW UP WITH MONEY


SO YES SHES CHANGED AND FORGOT WHO SHE IS

Rhondab said:

2 hugs girlie - just keep it up, you're doing GREAT



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[Edited 9/27/05 2:15am]

Fauxie said:

I loved De la Soul! I distinctly remember being proud he said that verse.
[Edited 9/27/05 9:10am]

so did 2pac have sex with lil' Kim or not..?

Rhondab said:

face looks like naomi campbell

...she come a long way from the brooklyn escort services

Sdldawn said:

actually Pac messed around with Faith Evans Biggies wife back then.... rumor has it kim was biggies secret misstress/fling during that period

MusezBrudaFromAnudaMuda said:

Isn't it also true she had biggie's baby but had an abortion?

Frankly, keeping ur african roots is fine, but, no offence, what is considered to be beautiful in Africa ain't whats considered beautiful in america.

Go to africa and this lightening is not happening of course.

Stay looking like a stereoptypical african over in the western world, and u r just not gonna be considered as attractive as a white blonde with blue eyes. If a white blonde with blue eyes goes to africa, is she gonna be seen as pretty over there in general by the african community?
[Edited 10/6/05 14:47pm]

roddiekay said:

thats what i heard on i think bigs behind the music

Kluvshim said:

You must have just hit reply & not read any posts, huh?

CalhounSq said:

Pretty much. Nevermind, my question is answered lol.