laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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You are entitled to your opinion.

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I know Prince died of opioid toxicity. We all know that. I was just pointing-out the fact that the ME did not list any other contributors to his death or underlying illnesses, because some people here are hell-bent on saying he was sick and a drug-addict.

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Yes, the Sheriff has to rule out whether or not it was a suicide, because that is their expertise and that is their job to do so.

Sigh the ME report avalible to the public tell us nothing about any other health issues he may have since they did not cause his death. Additional info would be in the ME report and his health records.

The terminal illness story is coming from his own family members.

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Prince's family haven't come out and said shit about Prince's death or whether or not he was terminally-ill. That is a fact.

cloveringold85 said:

I guess the line of thinking that Prince had enough, so he just downed some street drugs that were mislabeled mind you, and wanted out is the easiest way to put this all to bed, but it's not that simple.

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There is a lot of pertinent information that we do not have access to, such as:

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What are/were the results of the blood tests that Dr. Schulemberg was bringing to Prince on April 21, 2016?

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Paisley Park was not declared a crime scene until 2-weeks after Prince died. Things were touched and moved and evidence was tampered with; Prince's laptop was moved. Do you understand what this means? It means that an accurate investigation did not take place. None of this seems troubling to any of you?

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Were the bottles of pills fingerprinted?

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Prince was making odd and strange tweets before he died. He made comments on social media about his disagreement with WB and the PR remaster.

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We still don't know if he ingested the pills or got the Fentanyl through a patch or injection, right?

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This is all just the tip of the iceberg with all the strange circumstances surrounding Prince's death.

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If Prince wanted to kill himself, why would he need so many mislabled pills laying around Paisley Park? He only needed to take "ONE" pill, right?

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We don't have enough evidence to suggest it was a suicide. Prince was partying -- he wasn't depressed and living in isolation in the weeks and days before he died.

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Below is the link to the 4/21 search warrant that states that Paisley Park is a crime scene. So, it wasn't 2 weeks; it was designated a crime scene the very same day.

I agree that there are many unanswered questions but I don't see any credible evidence that refutes the medical examiner's findings of an accidental death.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3671561-PrinceSW-04272016.html

cloveringold85 said:

Yes, they have. Rather you believe it or not is up to you. Even Tyka said she knew he was going to die from info she got from him. Did she look into a crystal ball.

leec1 said:

And people were walking around inside going Thur stuff after the facility manager went on vacation.

fortuneandserendipity said:

If you honestly think he had dummy cameras you need to have your head examined.

leec1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

I guess the line of thinking that Prince had enough, so he just downed some street drugs that were mislabeled mind you, and wanted out is the easiest way to put this all to bed, but it's not that simple.

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There is a lot of pertinent information that we do not have access to, such as:

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What are/were the results of the blood tests that Dr. Schulemberg was bringing to Prince on April 21, 2016?

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Paisley Park was not declared a crime scene until 2-weeks after Prince died. Things were touched and moved and evidence was tampered with; Prince's laptop was moved. Do you understand what this means? It means that an accurate investigation did not take place. None of this seems troubling to any of you?

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Were the bottles of pills fingerprinted?

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Prince was making odd and strange tweets before he died. He made comments on social media about his disagreement with WB and the PR remaster.

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We still don't know if he ingested the pills or got the Fentanyl through a patch or injection, right?

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This is all just the tip of the iceberg with all the strange circumstances surrounding Prince's death.

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If Prince wanted to kill himself, why would he need so many mislabled pills laying around Paisley Park? He only needed to take "ONE" pill, right?

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We don't have enough evidence to suggest it was a suicide. Prince was partying -- he wasn't depressed and living in isolation in the weeks and days before he died.

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Below is the link to the 4/21 search warrant that states that Paisley Park is a crime scene. So, it wasn't 2 weeks; it was designated a crime scene the very same day.

I agree that there are many unanswered questions but I don't see any credible evidence that refutes the medical examiner's findings of an accidental death.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3671561-PrinceSW-04272016.html

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Sorry, I meant to say "they did not conduct a search warrant until 2-weeks later."

That fact alone raises a big red flag, for me, because the crime scene was contaminated (not secured). Who knows what the hell people touched and moved and removed from PP.

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Prince's family haven't come out and said shit about Prince's death or whether or not he was terminally-ill. That is a fact.

Yes, they have. Rather you believe it or not is up to you. Even Tyka said she knew he was going to die from info she got from him. Did she look into a crystal ball.

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No. The Nelson Family have not come out and released any type of public statement regarding Prince's death. All they have given us are snippets of information and cryptic messages --Now, what are we supposed to do with that?? Tyka assumed Prince was dying, she never directly came out and said that verbatim. Don't try to stretch the truth, Laura, because you know that is not how it all went down. You know Prince's family have not been forthcoming about his death, at all. Nada. Zip!!

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cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said: Yes, they have. Rather you believe it or not is up to you. Even Tyka said she knew he was going to die from info she got from him. Did she look into a crystal ball.

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No. The Nelson Family have not come out and released any type of public statement regarding Prince's death. All they have given us are snippets of information and cryptic messages --Now, what are we supposed to do with that?? Tyka assumed Prince was dying, she never directly came out and said that verbatim. Don't try to stretch the truth, Laura, because you know that is not how it all went down. You know Prince's family have not been forthcoming about his death, at all. Nada. Zip!!

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I never said they made a public statement because according to their motion they have no info to even give a public statement however Tyka did say she received an email with a picture and a song that told her that Prince was dying.

She worked for him and traveled with him in the last years of his life. Do you think they did not discuss this e-mail any futher? If they did not discuss it or the e-mail said absolutley nothing why would she even bring it up that she got the idea that he was dying from the e-mail?

It makes no sense for her to even mention the e-mail and forthcoming information if it is not true.

Time to stop pretending.

cloveringold85 said:

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No. The Nelson Family have not come out and released any type of public statement regarding Prince's death. All they have given us are snippets of information and cryptic messages --Now, what are we supposed to do with that?? Tyka assumed Prince was dying, she never directly came out and said that verbatim. Don't try to stretch the truth, Laura, because you know that is not how it all went down. You know Prince's family have not been forthcoming about his death, at all. Nada. Zip!!

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laurarichardson said:

leec1 said:

Below is the link to the 4/21 search warrant that states that Paisley Park is a crime scene. So, it wasn't 2 weeks; it was designated a crime scene the very same day.

I agree that there are many unanswered questions but I don't see any credible evidence that refutes the medical examiner's findings of an accidental death.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3671561-PrinceSW-04272016.html

And people were walking around inside going Thur stuff after the facility manager went on vacation.

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So, who's in charge of Paisley Park when Kirk decides he needs a vacation?

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

LOL I've seen the video. There's no way to disprove it was a dummy camera. And it could just as easily be a small spotlight.

If you're not aware from watching vid that it was a contrived sequence, they were acting, the lines were prescripted... then I feel sorry for you. Prince obviously knew Judith was there. Duh

If you honestly think he had dummy cameras you need to have your head examined.

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It wouldn't be surprising at all if some of those camera's were "dummies", as you put it. It's used as a deterrent for crime.

I'm not sure that it is accurate to assume that Prince and Tyka were close the "last years" of his life. It is said that she worked for him sending take down notices for NPG. That doesn't mean that she was working at PP. She could issue those from anywhere. Remember, in July of 2014 she and her family were living in the Dallas,Texas area. She was $1500 delinquent on her rent and was served an eviction notice. Prior to that, she had been in North Carolina she had not lived in MN for years. We can estimate that sometime after July 2014, she moved to MN. After a bit of research the Baltimore concert (May 2015) is the only event that she was mentioned in attendance. Now when she was interviewed in the UK, she stated to the host that "this is the first time I have not used drugs to cover the pain of my loss". So who's to say if she was hallucinating or not in touch with reality? I knew by the she was acting and the way she looked that she was not sober from day one. Maybe she just "thought" that Prince was going to die. When she did the interview when PP was opening you could see it. I have to be honest here, I don't believe that Prince and Tyka were close. She can tell anything but it doesn't make it so.....uh...I can say I was his wife and I'm the sole heir.... but that doesn't make it so!! IMHO...some folks have the ability to hide who and what they are. They hide behind masks, makeup, lies,deception. So sometimes you can't see what is hidden in plain sight.
Finally, if the heirs are asking for ALL pertinent information from the investigation.....it makes me wonder if any of them are persons of interest.
I saw a video of the surprise appearance that Prince made 3/12/2016. It was at a dinner club in MN. He was AWESOME!! He looked and played great! He did not look ill or poor health.
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laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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No. The Nelson Family have not come out and released any type of public statement regarding Prince's death. All they have given us are snippets of information and cryptic messages --Now, what are we supposed to do with that?? Tyka assumed Prince was dying, she never directly came out and said that verbatim. Don't try to stretch the truth, Laura, because you know that is not how it all went down. You know Prince's family have not been forthcoming about his death, at all. Nada. Zip!!

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I never said they made a public statement because according to their motion they have no info to even give a public statement however Tyka did say she received an email with a picture and a song that told her that Prince was dying.

She worked for him and traveled with him in the last years of his life. Do you think they did not discuss this e-mail any futher? If they did not discuss it or the e-mail said absolutley nothing why would she even bring it up that she got the idea that he was dying from the e-mail?

It makes no sense for her to even mention the e-mail and forthcoming information if it is not true.

Time to stop pretending.

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Who is pretending here? Hmmm...

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We all know about the "supposed" email that Prince sent to her Sister, Tyka, and she looked at it and said: "He's dying". Now, she's a psychic because she can forsee someone's death.

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Again -- how is her silly statements helpful? She's trying to keep the allure of mystery going, and keep us all guessing......oh, until her book comes out.

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We have absolutely no way of knowing what Prince and Tyka discussed.

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Why hasn't Tyka and the family addressed Prince's "alleged" drug addiction?

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Prince did not die from any terminal illness. He died from illegal Fentanyl toxicity, and Tyka and the fam have yet to say anything about it.

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Prince died a horrible death and died under suspicious circumstances, and this is all that Tyka has to say about her Icon Brother, Prince??

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Utterly ridiculous, I say!!

zenarose said:

I'm not sure that it is accurate to assume that Prince and Tyka were close the "last years" of his life. It is said that she worked for him sending take down notices for NPG. That doesn't mean that she was working at PP. She could issue those from anywhere. Remember, in July of 2014 she and her family were living in the Dallas,Texas area. She was $1500 delinquent on her rent and was served an eviction notice. Prior to that, she had been in North Carolina she had not lived in MN for years. We can estimate that sometime after July 2014, she moved to MN. After a bit of research the Baltimore concert in the only event that she was mentioned in attendance. Now when she was interviewed in the UK, she stated to the host that "this is the first time I have not used drugs to cover the pain of my loss". So who's to say if she was hallucinating or not in touch with reality? I knew by the she was acting and the way she looked that she was not sober from day one. Maybe she just "thought" that Prince was going to die. When she did the interview when PP was opening you could see it. I have to be honest here, I don't believe that Prince and Tyka were close. She can tell anything but it doesn't make it so.....uh...I can say I was his wife and I'm the sole heir.... but that doesn't make it so!! IMHO...some folks have the ability to hide who and what they are. They hide behind masks, makeup, lies,deception. So sometimes you can't see what is hidden in plain sight. Finally, if the heirs are asking for ALL pertinent information from the investigation.....it makes me wonder if any of them are persons of interest. I saw a video of the surprise appearance that Prince made 3/12/2016. It was at a dinner club in MN. He was AWESOME!! He looked and played great! He did not look ill or poor health. [Edited 3/12/18 17:28pm]

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laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

LOL I've seen the video. There's no way to disprove it was a dummy camera. And it could just as easily be a small spotlight.

If you're not aware from watching vid that it was a contrived sequence, they were acting, the lines were prescripted... then I feel sorry for you. Prince obviously knew Judith was there. Duh

If you honestly think he had dummy cameras you need to have your head examined.

The only dummy here is you. I never said he definitely had dummy cameras. But at the same time you can't 100% rule it out. Prince after all was the master of misdirection, as you and mumio like to point out

lol... whereas you think the same as purplefam that Prince didn't know judith was coming, and it was pure coincidence. I rest on your face.

zenarose said:

I'm not sure that it is accurate to assume that Prince and Tyka were close the "last years" of his life. It is said that she worked for him sending take down notices for NPG. That doesn't mean that she was working at PP. She could issue those from anywhere. Remember, in July of 2014 she and her family were living in the Dallas,Texas area. She was $1500 delinquent on her rent and was served an eviction notice. Prior to that, she had been in North Carolina she had not lived in MN for years. We can estimate that sometime after July 2014, she moved to MN. After a bit of research the Baltimore concert (May 2015) is the only event that she was mentioned in attendance. Now when she was interviewed in the UK, she stated to the host that "this is the first time I have not used drugs to cover the pain of my loss". So who's to say if she was hallucinating or not in touch with reality? I knew by the she was acting and the way she looked that she was not sober from day one. Maybe she just "thought" that Prince was going to die. When she did the interview when PP was opening you could see it. I have to be honest here, I don't believe that Prince and Tyka were close. She can tell anything but it doesn't make it so.....uh...I can say I was his wife and I'm the sole heir.... but that doesn't make it so!! IMHO...some folks have the ability to hide who and what they are. They hide behind masks, makeup, lies,deception. So sometimes you can't see what is hidden in plain sight. Finally, if the heirs are asking for ALL pertinent information from the investigation.....it makes me wonder if any of them are persons of interest. I saw a video of the surprise appearance that Prince made 3/12/2016. It was at a dinner club in MN. He was AWESOME!! He looked and played great! He did not look ill or poor health. [Edited 3/12/18 17:28pm] [Edited 3/12/18 17:33pm]

We (on the forum) discussed her statement (bolded) before when she said it. I thought the same as you EXCEPT when another member put it into context. She didn't mean that in that interview it was the 1st time she wasn't using. Meaning all the other losses she suffered...Mom...Dad...she was using then. She's clean and sober and wasn't using when she lost Prince.

fortuneandserendipity said:

I never said that Prince didn’t know Judith was coming. I simply brought up
The video so folks could note what may be a small camera above the door in the video. I know the video was a setup it is a video short meant for humor. But you also can’t completely say that the possibility of a camera wasn’ t used in this video or that they weren’t used at PP in general. And again I never said Prince
Didn’t know Judith was coming.

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said: If you honestly think he had dummy cameras you need to have your head examined.

The only dummy here is you. I never said he definitely had dummy cameras. But at the same time you can't 100% rule it out. Prince after all was the master of misdirection, as you and mumio like to point out

lol... whereas you think the same as purplefam that Prince didn't know judith was coming, and it was pure coincidence. I rest on your face.

Hey dummy- You missed the "IF" in my sentence. I also realize that the video was a skit. I just think it is moronic to suggest he put up fake cameras for the sake of a skit.

If you do a simple Goggle search a few people who worked for Prince doing security have said that he had cameras everywhere and that they monitored them. Why would security people be hired for events and parties to monitor dummy cameras. Seems like youi can rule it out

I posted the Carver County Logs that shows he had trespassers on the property. How would you know from the inside if you had tresspassers if you do not have working securiity cameras?

Think about this for a moment you super genius.

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zenarose said:

I'm not sure that it is accurate to assume that Prince and Tyka were close the "last years" of his life. It is said that she worked for him sending take down notices for NPG. That doesn't mean that she was working at PP. She could issue those from anywhere. Remember, in July of 2014 she and her family were living in the Dallas,Texas area. She was $1500 delinquent on her rent and was served an eviction notice. Prior to that, she had been in North Carolina she had not lived in MN for years. We can estimate that sometime after July 2014, she moved to MN. After a bit of research the Baltimore concert (May 2015) is the only event that she was mentioned in attendance. Now when she was interviewed in the UK, she stated to the host that "this is the first time I have not used drugs to cover the pain of my loss". So who's to say if she was hallucinating or not in touch with reality? I knew by the she was acting and the way she looked that she was not sober from day one. Maybe she just "thought" that Prince was going to die. When she did the interview when PP was opening you could see it. I have to be honest here, I don't believe that Prince and Tyka were close. She can tell anything but it doesn't make it so.....uh...I can say I was his wife and I'm the sole heir.... but that doesn't make it so!! IMHO...some folks have the ability to hide who and what they are. They hide behind masks, makeup, lies,deception. So sometimes you can't see what is hidden in plain sight. Finally, if the heirs are asking for ALL pertinent information from the investigation.....it makes me wonder if any of them are persons of interest. I saw a video of the surprise appearance that Prince made 3/12/2016. It was at a dinner club in MN. He was AWESOME!! He looked and played great! He did not look ill or poor health. [Edited 3/12/18 17:28pm] [Edited 3/12/18 17:33pm]

Now when she was interviewed in the UK, she stated to the host that "this is the first time I have not used drugs to cover the pain of my loss". So who's to say if she was hallucinating or not in touch with reality?

She was talking about from the time her Mom and Dad died. Do you honestly think she hallucinated an e-mail and is still talking about it years later? I asked this question before don't you think she had some follow up conversation about this e-mail with Prince even if she hallucinated it? Don't you think if she did hallucinate it he would have clarified that for her.?

I knew by the she was acting and the way she looked that she was not sober from day one. Maybe she just "thought" that Prince was going to die. When she did the interview when PP was opening you could see it.

You were able to figure all that out from a T.V. interview?

I have to be honest here, I don't believe that Prince and Tyka were close. She can tell anything but it doesn't make it so.....uh...I can say I was his wife and I'm the sole heir.... but that doesn't make it so!! IMHO...some folks have the ability to hide who and what they are. They hide behind masks, makeup, lies,deception.

Sorry she has said that Prince was gone a lot but after their parents died he started to hang out with her more and he is the one that took her to rehab. I believe they became close after their parents death and she did work for him, travel with him and was even at the last party.

Some form of communication would have taken place between them from 2003 to 2016.

If even you hallucinated an e-mail saying your brother is going to die. You have plenty of time to get it straigten out with your brother to make sure the e-mail was real.

Finally, if the heirs are asking for ALL pertinent information from the investigation.....it makes me wonder if any of them are persons of interest. I saw a video of the surprise appearance that Prince made 3/12/2016. It was at a dinner club in MN. He was AWESOME!! He looked and played great! He did not look ill or poor health.

I do not think any of the heirs are persons of interest. At this point the police would have investigated them and their whereabouts when Prince died.

I think Tyka and Omarr know more then they have completly let her about Prince's overall health. I have spoken to a few people who work in law enforcement and while they do not know the laws in MN they are saying the police never have to close the case and they do not have to hand over any files to anyone has long as the case is open.

My law enforcement friends think the police have leads and do not want those leads exposed. Realize these leads could be drug dealers, enablers or just plain old murders even if it was assisted suicide. Some illegalities took place accidental overdose or not.

I saw a video of the surprise appearance that Prince made 3/12/2016. It was at a dinner club in MN. He was AWESOME!! He looked and played great! He did not look ill or poor health.

I saw that video as well and it is one of the reason I believe he had other health issues and not just pain pills as his main issue.

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laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

The only dummy here is you. I never said he definitely had dummy cameras. But at the same time you can't 100% rule it out. Prince after all was the master of misdirection, as you and mumio like to point out

lol... whereas you think the same as purplefam that Prince didn't know judith was coming, and it was pure coincidence. I rest on your face.

Hey dummy- You missed the "IF" in my sentence. I also realize that the video was a skit. I just think it is moronic to suggest he put up fake cameras for the sake of a skit.

If you do a simple Goggle search a few people who worked for Prince doing security have said that he had cameras everywhere and that they monitored them. Why would security people be hired for events and parties to monitor dummy cameras. Seems like youi can rule it out

I posted the Carver County Logs that shows he had trespassers on the property. How would you know from the inside if you had tresspassers if you do not have working securiity cameras?

Think about this for a moment you super genius.

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In answer to above, because security have EYES. Which is why, for example, at gigs and other events all visible security are watching the crowd, and (if it's Prince) pointing torchlight into faces to stop people from filming. CCTV isn't immediate enough in a lot of scenarios. Its main purpose is to prevent big crime, not petty altercations. And yes, security guards watch people's homes with their own eyes, often walking the grounds rather than just staring at a monitor all day. Which would probably send anyone mad (even you laura).

It doesn't preclude Prince using a proper video surveillance system, obviously. But with such a system in use, you have to wonder why it was switched off. Maybe he was trying to save on electricity bills l o l. Personally I think it was for privacy.

PennyPurple said:

I think that it can be looked at both ways. Who can say what her mindset or meaning was/is. We all have different perspectives. And we don't know if she is/has been sober (drugs and /or alcohol). Addicts have a different language and thought process they use to justify their actions. I have looked at it from your perspective also, so I'm not going to disagree. I just keep it on my undecided list.

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

Hey dummy- You missed the "IF" in my sentence. I also realize that the video was a skit. I just think it is moronic to suggest he put up fake cameras for the sake of a skit.

If you do a simple Goggle search a few people who worked for Prince doing security have said that he had cameras everywhere and that they monitored them. Why would security people be hired for events and parties to monitor dummy cameras. Seems like youi can rule it out

I posted the Carver County Logs that shows he had trespassers on the property. How would you know from the inside if you had tresspassers if you do not have working securiity cameras?

Think about this for a moment you super genius.

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In answer to above, because security have EYES. Which is why, for example, at gigs and other events all visible security are watching the crowd, and (if it's Prince) pointing torchlight into faces to stop people from filming. CCTV isn't immediate enough in a lot of scenarios. Its main purpose is to prevent big crime, not petty altercations. And yes, security guards watch people's homes with their own eyes, often walking the grounds rather than just staring at a monitor all day. Which would probably send anyone mad (even you laura).

It doesn't preclude Prince using a proper video surveillance system, obviously. But with such a system in use, you have to wonder why it was switched off. Maybe he was trying to save on electricity bills l o l. Personally I think it was for privacy.

Once again you have people who said he had monitors and their jobs was to watch the monitors. No reason why he could not of have security on the ground and watching monitors.

Once again if it was off or removed he was the boss. He did not want them on and he had no fear of anyone breaking in or treaspassing which as we know had happened countless times.

I also do not recall seeing claims in the court files from Utlities against the estate. In fact Prince had very little debt and about 40 million in cash. He was not worried about no electric bills.

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

In answer to above, because security have EYES. Which is why, for example, at gigs and other events all visible security are watching the crowd, and (if it's Prince) pointing torchlight into faces to stop people from filming. CCTV isn't immediate enough in a lot of scenarios. Its main purpose is to prevent big crime, not petty altercations. And yes, security guards watch people's homes with their own eyes, often walking the grounds rather than just staring at a monitor all day. Which would probably send anyone mad (even you laura).

It doesn't preclude Prince using a proper video surveillance system, obviously. But with such a system in use, you have to wonder why it was switched off. Maybe he was trying to save on electricity bills l o l. Personally I think it was for privacy.

Once again you have people who said he had monitors and their jobs was to watch the monitors. No reason why he could not of have security on the ground and watching monitors.

Once again if it was off or removed he was the boss. He did not want them on and he had no fear of anyone breaking in or treaspassing which as we know had happened countless times.

I also do not recall seeing claims in the court files from Utlities against the estate. In fact Prince had very little debt and about 40 million in cash. He was not worried about no electric bills.

i think if he filmed every concert and event then he surely had surveillance at his home. probably to

track the help and make sure the doves where fed and to track if anyone was coming and going when he was away. heck my door bell has a camera in it and i can see who comes to the door

when i am away and i can speak to them thru it remotely. and this technology isn't a fortune

to own. i think dummy camera's would be silly when i can turn my heat and alarm on when i

am in another state.

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

Hey dummy- You missed the "IF" in my sentence. I also realize that the video was a skit. I just think it is moronic to suggest he put up fake cameras for the sake of a skit.

If you do a simple Goggle search a few people who worked for Prince doing security have said that he had cameras everywhere and that they monitored them. Why would security people be hired for events and parties to monitor dummy cameras. Seems like youi can rule it out

I posted the Carver County Logs that shows he had trespassers on the property. How would you know from the inside if you had tresspassers if you do not have working securiity cameras?

Think about this for a moment you super genius.

[Edited 3/13/18 4:21am]

In answer to above, because security have EYES. Which is why, for example, at gigs and other events all visible security are watching the crowd, and (if it's Prince) pointing torchlight into faces to stop people from filming. CCTV isn't immediate enough in a lot of scenarios. Its main purpose is to prevent big crime, not petty altercations. And yes, security guards watch people's homes with their own eyes, often walking the grounds rather than just staring at a monitor all day. Which would probably send anyone mad (even you laura).

It doesn't preclude Prince using a proper video surveillance system, obviously. But with such a system in use, you have to wonder why it was switched off. Maybe he was trying to save on electricity bills l o l. Personally I think it was for privacy.

^^^^^i think this would have been a huge waste of time when you could just use a camera and

have someone sit at that big desk in the foyer at PP and look at a moniter and simply call the police

if someone was trespassing. It is mostly cold in minni so to have some poor guy pace the grounds

when he could just look at a moniter seems more likely.

zenarose said:

PennyPurple said:

We (on the forum) discussed her statement (bolded) before when she said it. I thought the same as you EXCEPT when another member put it into context. She didn't mean that in that interview it was the 1st time she wasn't using. Meaning all the other losses she suffered...Mom...Dad...she was using then. She's clean and sober and wasn't using when she lost Prince.

I think that it can be looked at both ways. Who can say what her mindset or meaning was/is. We all have different perspectives. And we don't know if she is/has been sober (drugs and /or alcohol). Addicts have a different language and thought process they use to justify their actions. I have looked at it from your perspective also, so I'm not going to disagree. I just keep it on my undecided list.

Yeah, but it's not cool to label her a drug addict or having problems with alcohol, when she's been clean and works at being clean and sober every day. And what she was trying to say was this is the first time she's had to deal with loss and being clean and sober. To me it's kicking someone who has been clean for several years.

PennyPurple said:

zenarose said:

PennyPurple said: I think that it can be looked at both ways. Who can say what her mindset or meaning was/is. We all have different perspectives. And we don't know if she is/has been sober (drugs and /or alcohol). Addicts have a different language and thought process they use to justify their actions. I have looked at it from your perspective also, so I'm not going to disagree. I just keep it on my undecided list.

Yeah, but it's not cool to label her a drug addict or having problems with alcohol, when she's been clean and works at being clean and sober every day. And what she was trying to say was this is the first time she's had to deal with loss and being clean and sober. To me it's kicking someone who has been clean for several years.

Of course it is kicking someone at the lowest time in their life. With exception of Omarr her close family is gone. The other half sibs want to throw her in the streets.

I will see if I can find the interviews Tyka did when she had her book out before. She actually did talks at rehab centers for a while after her treatment.

I do not believe she is the devil that tabloids have made her out to be and it is to bad the real devils are getting a pass on this board.

purplefam99 said:

laurarichardson said:

Once again you have people who said he had monitors and their jobs was to watch the monitors. No reason why he could not of have security on the ground and watching monitors.

Once again if it was off or removed he was the boss. He did not want them on and he had no fear of anyone breaking in or treaspassing which as we know had happened countless times.

I also do not recall seeing claims in the court files from Utlities against the estate. In fact Prince had very little debt and about 40 million in cash. He was not worried about no electric bills.

i think if he filmed every concert and event then he surely had surveillance at his home. probably to

track the help and make sure the doves where fed and to track if anyone was coming and going when he was away. heck my door bell has a camera in it and i can see who comes to the door

when i am away and i can speak to them thru it remotely. and this technology isn't a fortune

to own. i think dummy camera's would be silly when i can turn my heat and alarm on when i

am in another state.

What you say makes sense but common sense is not common. People have inexpensive security systems on plain old single family homes but Prince put up dummy cameras on a 7 million dollar prooperty.

I am sure the signs during PP events were because Prince was recording those events. We know that he pretty much taped anything he did on stage/studio.

After seeing the video on youtube with Ingrid Chavez when she walks thru PP with BET (I think), I did not see an emergency button on the elevator console, which makes me think there might not be a camera inside the elevator.

Even if PP had 24/7 video survelliance, I would imagine it was focused more on the exterior, maybe interior doors/entrances, and the property grounds.

I reserve my opinion on if any interior video footage exists until I hear from a legal source that the cameras were removed from PP.

nelcp777 said:

I am sure the signs during PP events were because Prince was recording those events. We know that he pretty much taped anything he did on stage/studio.

After seeing the video on youtube with Ingrid Chavez when she walks thru PP with BET (I think), I did not see an emergency button on the elevator console, which makes me think there might not be a camera inside the elevator.

Even if PP had 24/7 video survelliance, I would imagine it was focused more on the exterior, maybe interior doors/entrances, and the property grounds.

I reserve my opinion on if any interior video footage exists until I hear from a legal source that the cameras were removed from PP.

We have heard from a legal source that no footage is avalible. It has been two years. I doubt we ever hear anything from legal sources anytime soon. The police can keep the case open for as long as they like.

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We all have to remember that Prince loved to record EVERYTHING. He had PP wired so that he could record music or vocal tracks anywhere at anytime he chose to. His Vault is a prime example of this. Prince knew every nook and cranny of PP and you know he had that place heavily secured and security camera's all over the place, and I'm sure he knew how to operate them.