purplefam99 said:

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

purplefam99 said:

On Judith’s website there is a video called back in time at paisley. Where she is talking to Prince thru the intercom and he is inside and clearly Knows it is her from the outside. She even looks up like “ how are you seeing Me”. If you pause the video you can see there is what maybe a camera above her head when she puts her back against the white wall. The camera or whatever it is Is white too so you have to look close. So his cctv doesn’t seem to be imitation According to this video.

—-Thank you

LOL I've seen the video. There's no way to disprove it was a dummy camera. And it could just as easily be a small spotlight.

If you're not aware from watching vid that it was a contrived sequence, they were acting, the lines were prescripted... then I feel sorry for you. Prince obviously knew Judith was there. Duh

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Rebeljuice said:

CCTV isnt going to prevent a break in. It will help catch the trespasser after the fact, but it wont stop the act itself unless someone is sitting watching a monitor screen 24/7 on the premises. For all we know, the outside security cameras may well have been working as normal. But seeing as the events that took place that night happened inside the building, any outside camera footage is of no interest.

Why were the inside cameras off? Because Prince was ill with (withdrawals/cancer/AIDS/Ebola... whatever). He turned them off because he didn't want his current state of wellness being recorded by all-seeing eyes in his home. No one knows how long they were off. It seems some people are jumping to the conclusion that they were switched off that night. For all we know they may have been offline for days/weeks/months.

I think people are looking for things where there isn't really anything to find.

co-sign

co-sign²

serendipity said:

disch said:

Rebeljuice said:

bonatoc said:

I wouldn't. Talk about a bad trip.

Rebel, do you really think a video surveillance fims private apartments?
Prince was not Tony Montana. I bet there were cameras in hallways, and above sensitive entrances
like the Vault, Prince's offices, the studios, the stage.

Anyway, the alibi of the cameras to put again with an end-of-times epidemy theory
all over poor Prince is pretty unfair. You're over-projecting.
The guy goes to the Wrecka Stow some days before.
Show me anyone in terminal conditions
who goes on a bike ride or shopping for records.

It's not only the few hours we don't know about life in PP.
Prince wanted it that way for quite some time.
What he does under his roof is none of your business,
and it goes the other way around.

He closed the commercial activities,
he was rich enough to take it easy.
Would you have cameras inside your house, if already external cameras
and the blatancy of the building provide dissuasive enough?

You are presuming I am advocating the terminal illness narative. I am not. I added the various illnesses to illustrate it doesn't really matter what narative you follow. Was he ill? Yes. What was his illness? Opioid addiction. Do we know anything other than that? No. The only narative I know to be true is the one that reads "accidental overdose" - This is the only fact we know.

I can speculate as well as the rest, but the only illness connection MY narative comes up with is addiction and the possibility he was trying to kick the habit on his own making himself more ill. Withdrawals and falling off the wagon time and again wreaks havok on the body. It is hell most of the time and isn't pretty. Ergo, a possible reason the cameras within PP were off.

Read what I said with a bit more care and attention before you project a narative on me that I dont subscribe to

Having said all that, i am not exactly clear on what it was you said because your pseudo-English twaddle very oft makes you out to be the one tripping. A below-the-belt "bad trip" jibe back at ya. 1 - 1.

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laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Why would someone who was procuring/addicted to illicit substances have cameras on to recording anything? How reasonable is that?

No one else had the justification to shut off any external/internal video surveillance, remove the system or delete/edit any data except for Prince . If one believes the system was still active ( specifically after the incident in Moline), but the investigators are withholding that information ,then it speaks volumes regarding Prince's state of mind. As in: That of a full blown addict who was seriously impaired in the area of reasoning, or, one who no longer cared. He had to at least have thought that after Moline, there was a possibility that law enforcement or the media may be interested in finding out why and how he overdosed in Moline.

Do you think prince had cameras in his bathrooms. Think about it for moment. As far as the pills and pamphlet being in the open I Believe it was set up that way because it is a 65 ft.² facility and if he wanted to hide something for fear that the police were coming he could have had it so no one will find anything. You have a person who was known for being neat and private why are things later about in the open. Planes wanted things to play out this way. He was the king of misdirection.

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Laura, I appreciate a lot of information you bring to the table, but I just can't with that comment above.

Menes said:

Why would someone who was procuring/addicted to illicit substances have cameras on to recording anything? How reasonable is that?

No one else had the justification to shut off any external/internal video surveillance, remove the system or delete/edit any data except for Prince . If one believes the system was still active ( specifically after the incident in Moline), but the investigators are withholding that information ,then it speaks volumes regarding Prince's state of mind. As in: That of a full blown addict who was seriously impaired in the area of reasoning, or, one who no longer cared. He had to at least have thought that after Moline, there was a possibility that law enforcement or the media may be interested in finding out why and how he overdosed in Moline.

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Welcome back, Menes!!

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Hope you had a wonderful vacation!!

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Welcome back to the madness!!

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To the bolded: Kirk was Manager of PP and he had full-access to the facility, 24-7, and I'm sure he knew how to operate the security system/camera's.

cloveringold85 said:

Does anyone know whether or not, according to Minnesota law, details of the investigation will be made public if the prosecutor decides not to press charges against anyone?

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Why would someone who was procuring/addicted to illicit substances have cameras on to recording anything? How reasonable is that?

No one else had the justification to shut off any external/internal video surveillance, remove the system or delete/edit any data except for Prince . If one believes the system was still active ( specifically after the incident in Moline), but the investigators are withholding that information ,then it speaks volumes regarding Prince's state of mind. As in: That of a full blown addict who was seriously impaired in the area of reasoning, or, one who no longer cared. He had to at least have thought that after Moline, there was a possibility that law enforcement or the media may be interested in finding out why and how he overdosed in Moline.

Do you think prince had cameras in his bathrooms. Think about it for moment. As far as the pills and pamphlet being in the open I Believe it was set up that way because it is a 65 ft.² facility and if he wanted to hide something for fear that the police were coming he could have had it so no one will find anything. You have a person who was known for being neat and private why are things later about in the open. Planes wanted things to play out this way. He was the king of misdirection.

I think we are saying the same thing. I don't believe anyone else did anything except for the "king of misdirection". The man checked out and left an assortment of clues for the exact purpose it was intended for: Let 'em all ponder. It was one last act that fits quite nicely into the personage. It was either that or be found as a pile of waste ravaged by pain and pills in the very near future.

cloveringold85 said:

Menes said:

Why would someone who was procuring/addicted to illicit substances have cameras on to recording anything? How reasonable is that?

No one else had the justification to shut off any external/internal video surveillance, remove the system or delete/edit any data except for Prince . If one believes the system was still active ( specifically after the incident in Moline), but the investigators are withholding that information ,then it speaks volumes regarding Prince's state of mind. As in: That of a full blown addict who was seriously impaired in the area of reasoning, or, one who no longer cared. He had to at least have thought that after Moline, there was a possibility that law enforcement or the media may be interested in finding out why and how he overdosed in Moline.

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Welcome back, Menes!!

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Hope you had a wonderful vacation!!

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Welcome back to the madness!!

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To the bolded: Kirk was Manager of PP and he had full-access to the facility, 24-7, and I'm sure he knew how to operate the security system/camera's.

Thank you, CG85. Kirk did have access, but in the scheme of all things, he isn't that smart to put all of this together. He did everything for Prince.

laurarichardson said:

Vannormal said:

I know you put it between like this : (withdrawals/cancer/AIDS/Ebola... whatever), and that trigger me. I'm sorry.

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I've seen a picture somewhere of Prince lying in his elevator. Was that real? Or was it a fake ?

Let me look for it...

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It was fake. [Edited 3/10/18 4:56am]

thank you very much.

There ya go.

It was fake.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Menes said: Do you think prince had cameras in his bathrooms. Think about it for moment. As far as the pills and pamphlet being in the open I Believe it was set up that way because it is a 65 ft.² facility and if he wanted to hide something for fear that the police were coming he could have had it so no one will find anything. You have a person who was known for being neat and private why are things later about in the open. Planes wanted things to play out this way. He was the king of misdirection.

I think we are saying the same thing. I don't believe anyone else did anything except for the "king of misdirection". The man checked out and left an assortment of clues for the exact purpose it was intended for: Let 'em all ponder. It was one last act that fits quite nicely into the personage. It was either that or be found as a pile of waste ravaged by pain and pills in the very near future.

agree 1000%...and WELCOME BACK...missed you.

I agree, too. Nothing else makes any sense but this scenario.

I respect what all of you have to say, but some of you seem to be missing a very important fact. The Carver County Sheriff ruled-out suicide, and Prince's death is still an ongoing homicide investigation. The authorities would not say "homicide" if they did not suspect foul-play.

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There were a lot of strange things going on in the weeks leading up to Prince's untimely death, and I think there is a lot more to the story than an overdose from illegal Fentanyl.

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Also, the ME stated there were no other underlying illnesses/diseases. We do not have a full autopsy, but should we suspect that the ME is not telling the truth on the cause of death?

cloveringold85 said:

I respect what all of you have to say, but some of you seem to be missing a very important fact. The Carver County Sheriff ruled-out suicide, and Prince's death is still an ongoing homicide investigation. The authorities would not say "homicide" if they did not suspect foul-play.

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There were a lot of strange things going on in the weeks leading up to Prince's untimely death, and I think there is a lot more to the story than an overdose from illegal Fentanyl.

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Also, the ME stated there were no other underlying illnesses/diseases. We do not have a full autopsy, but should we suspect that the ME is not telling the truth on the cause of death?

The ME said any other health problems i.e. cancer, HIV, ebola, heart disease, etc DID NOT CAUSE OR CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE of his death. The CAUSE of his death was opoid toxicity and it was ruled accidental bc he didn't leave a note. Period. This has been explained only a gazillion times here.

Also, the Sheriff DID NOT rule out suicide; it's the ME's job, based on long-training, to determine the CAUSE of death which was TOO MANY DRUGS in his 112 lb. body. DRUGS killed Prince. And maybe he took TOO MANY DRUGS knowingly.

And for those who say, 'but maybe he took too many drugs unknowingly' I say BS: He's OD's by his own hand just a week before, had struggled with drug addiction for years and he looked like it at the end.

Denial is the strongest human emotion...though NOT a good look.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

cloveringold85 said:

I respect what all of you have to say, but some of you seem to be missing a very important fact. The Carver County Sheriff ruled-out suicide, and Prince's death is still an ongoing homicide investigation. The authorities would not say "homicide" if they did not suspect foul-play.

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There were a lot of strange things going on in the weeks leading up to Prince's untimely death, and I think there is a lot more to the story than an overdose from illegal Fentanyl.

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Also, the ME stated there were no other underlying illnesses/diseases. We do not have a full autopsy, but should we suspect that the ME is not telling the truth on the cause of death?

The ME said any other health problems i.e. cancer, HIV, ebola, heart disease, etc DID NOT CAUSE OR CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE of his death. The CAUSE of his death was opoid toxicity and it was ruled accidental bc he didn't leave a note. Period. This has been explained only a gazillion times here.

Also, the Sheriff DID NOT rule out suicide; it's the ME's job, based on long-training, to determine the CAUSE of death which was TOO MANY DRUGS in his 112 lb. body. DRUGS killed Prince. And maybe he took TOO MANY DRUGS knowingly.

And for those who say, 'but maybe he took too many drugs unknowingly' I say BS: He's OD's by his own hand just a week before, had struggled with drug addiction for years and he looked like it at the end.

Denial is the strongest human emotion...though NOT a good look.

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You are entitled to your opinion.

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I know Prince died of opioid toxicity. We all know that. I was just pointing-out the fact that the ME did not list any other contributors to his death or underlying illnesses, because some people here are hell-bent on saying he was sick and a drug-addict.

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Yes, the Sheriff has to rule out whether or not it was a suicide, because that is their expertise and that is their job to do so.

Re: the MEs ruling of "accidental": MEs, like anyone, can get things wrong, but there's no particular reason to think she did in this case; she had access to all the same info we do, PLUS a lot more (and she has trained expertise in interpreting evidence). We don't know that the only reason she ruled it accidental was the lack of a note, as she didn't offer any public comment other than the autopsy summary. And you're right this has been talked about a gazillion times, but I think the reason for that is that not everyone agrees.

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I don't think that skepticism about suicide is because of denial. Look, it's more comforting, in a way, to think he ended his life intentionally, on his own terms. It's more unsettling to think it was a dumb accident, not what he wanted and that with a few different choices he could be alive today.

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As far as the "homicide" investigation, we know that that doesn't necessarily mean 1st degree (intentional murder); "homicide" could also apply to anyone who provided the illegal drugs that killed him no matter their intent. But the fact that no charged have been filed after 2 years doesn't really bode well for charges ever being filed, at least in Carver County. (It might be out of the country jurisdiction, depending on where Prince acquired his drugs.)

Bodhitheblackdog said:

cloveringold85 said:

I respect what all of you have to say, but some of you seem to be missing a very important fact. The Carver County Sheriff ruled-out suicide, and Prince's death is still an ongoing homicide investigation. The authorities would not say "homicide" if they did not suspect foul-play.

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There were a lot of strange things going on in the weeks leading up to Prince's untimely death, and I think there is a lot more to the story than an overdose from illegal Fentanyl.

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Also, the ME stated there were no other underlying illnesses/diseases. We do not have a full autopsy, but should we suspect that the ME is not telling the truth on the cause of death?

The ME said any other health problems i.e. cancer, HIV, ebola, heart disease, etc DID NOT CAUSE OR CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE of his death. The CAUSE of his death was opoid toxicity and it was ruled accidental bc he didn't leave a note. Period. This has been explained only a gazillion times here.

Also, the Sheriff DID NOT rule out suicide; it's the ME's job, based on long-training, to determine the CAUSE of death which was TOO MANY DRUGS in his 112 lb. body. DRUGS killed Prince. And maybe he took TOO MANY DRUGS knowingly.

And for those who say, 'but maybe he took too many drugs unknowingly' I say BS: He's OD's by his own hand just a week before, had struggled with drug addiction for years and he looked like it at the end.

Denial is the strongest human emotion...though NOT a good look.

disch said:

Re: the MEs ruling of "accidental": MEs, like anyone, can get things wrong, but there's no particular reason to think she did in this case; she had access to all the same info we do, PLUS a lot more (and she has trained expertise in interpreting evidence). We don't know that the only reason she ruled it accidental was the lack of a note, as she didn't offer any public comment other than the autopsy summary. And you're right this has been talked about a gazillion times, but I think the reason for that is that not everyone agrees.

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I don't think that skepticism about suicide is because of denial. Look, it's more comforting, in a way, to think he ended his life intentionally, on his own terms. It's more unsettling to think it was a dumb accident, not what he wanted and that with a few different choices he could be alive today.

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As far as the "homicide" investigation, we know that that doesn't necessarily mean 1st degree (intentional murder); "homicide" could also apply to anyone who provided the illegal drugs that killed him no matter their intent. But the fact that no charged have been filed after 2 years doesn't really bode well for charges ever being filed, at least in Carver County. (It might be out of the country jurisdiction, depending on where Prince acquired his drugs.)

Bodhitheblackdog said:

The ME said any other health problems i.e. cancer, HIV, ebola, heart disease, etc DID NOT CAUSE OR CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE of his death. The CAUSE of his death was opoid toxicity and it was ruled accidental bc he didn't leave a note. Period. This has been explained only a gazillion times here.

Also, the Sheriff DID NOT rule out suicide; it's the ME's job, based on long-training, to determine the CAUSE of death which was TOO MANY DRUGS in his 112 lb. body. DRUGS killed Prince. And maybe he took TOO MANY DRUGS knowingly.

And for those who say, 'but maybe he took too many drugs unknowingly' I say BS: He's OD's by his own hand just a week before, had struggled with drug addiction for years and he looked like it at the end.

Denial is the strongest human emotion...though NOT a good look.

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disch said:

Re: the MEs ruling of "accidental": MEs, like anyone, can get things wrong, but there's no particular reason to think she did in this case; she had access to all the same info we do, PLUS a lot more (and she has trained expertise in interpreting evidence). We don't know that the only reason she ruled it accidental was the lack of a note, as she didn't offer any public comment other than the autopsy summary. And you're right this has been talked about a gazillion times, but I think the reason for that is that not everyone agrees.

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I don't think that skepticism about suicide is because of denial. Look, it's more comforting, in a way, to think he ended his life intentionally, on his own terms. It's more unsettling to think it was a dumb accident, not what he wanted and that with a few different choices he could be alive today.

-

As far as the "homicide" investigation, we know that that doesn't necessarily mean 1st degree (intentional murder); "homicide" could also apply to anyone who provided the illegal drugs that killed him no matter their intent. But the fact that no charged have been filed after 2 years doesn't really bode well for charges ever being filed, at least in Carver County. (It might be out of the country jurisdiction, depending on where Prince acquired his drugs.)

Bodhitheblackdog said:

The ME said any other health problems i.e. cancer, HIV, ebola, heart disease, etc DID NOT CAUSE OR CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE of his death. The CAUSE of his death was opoid toxicity and it was ruled accidental bc he didn't leave a note. Period. This has been explained only a gazillion times here.

Also, the Sheriff DID NOT rule out suicide; it's the ME's job, based on long-training, to determine the CAUSE of death which was TOO MANY DRUGS in his 112 lb. body. DRUGS killed Prince. And maybe he took TOO MANY DRUGS knowingly.

And for those who say, 'but maybe he took too many drugs unknowingly' I say BS: He's OD's by his own hand just a week before, had struggled with drug addiction for years and he looked like it at the end.

Denial is the strongest human emotion...though NOT a good look.

Thank you for this deeply thoughtful and compelling comment.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

cloveringold85 said:

I respect what all of you have to say, but some of you seem to be missing a very important fact. The Carver County Sheriff ruled-out suicide, and Prince's death is still an ongoing homicide investigation. The authorities would not say "homicide" if they did not suspect foul-play.

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There were a lot of strange things going on in the weeks leading up to Prince's untimely death, and I think there is a lot more to the story than an overdose from illegal Fentanyl.

.

Also, the ME stated there were no other underlying illnesses/diseases. We do not have a full autopsy, but should we suspect that the ME is not telling the truth on the cause of death?

The ME said any other health problems i.e. cancer, HIV, ebola, heart disease, etc DID NOT CAUSE OR CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE of his death. The CAUSE of his death was opoid toxicity and it was ruled accidental bc he didn't leave a note. Period. This has been explained only a gazillion times here.

Also, the Sheriff DID NOT rule out suicide; it's the ME's job, based on long-training, to determine the CAUSE of death which was TOO MANY DRUGS in his 112 lb. body. DRUGS killed Prince. And maybe he took TOO MANY DRUGS knowingly.

And for those who say, 'but maybe he took too many drugs unknowingly' I say BS: He's OD's by his own hand just a week before, had struggled with drug addiction for years and he looked like it at the end.

Denial is the strongest human emotion...though NOT a good look.

Thank you, Bod. Strange how they "thought it could be "homicide"( only as in : someone gave him the "kill pill'). Did he swallow the first kill pill" in Moline too? If so, why would any sane person who thought he swallowed a kill pill that was planted 7 days prior, not :

A: Report that he thought he was targeted for murder because someone slipped him a "kill pill" in Atlanta?

B: Throw every single pill out on the suspicion that any pill could have been tainted /laced with the same "kill pill " ingredient once he got back home?

C: Eliminate all access and contact with persons that had an opportunity to plant the "kill pill" ? That should include all staff , family members, etc.

D. Lastly, and in reference to the (7) seven days prior to his death, is there anything in his behavior that would lead one to believe that Prince was targeted? Do you invite strangers into your house for a private show if you believe you were almost murdered (7) seven days before?

The truth was hidden amongst years of diversion. The only way we were granted privilege to that truth (and how badly off Prince was) , is solely because of what happened in Moline. If not for that one event, we would know absolutely nothing to this very day.

[Edited 3/11/18 20:33pm]

Menes said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

The ME said any other health problems i.e. cancer, HIV, ebola, heart disease, etc DID NOT CAUSE OR CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE of his death. The CAUSE of his death was opoid toxicity and it was ruled accidental bc he didn't leave a note. Period. This has been explained only a gazillion times here.

Also, the Sheriff DID NOT rule out suicide; it's the ME's job, based on long-training, to determine the CAUSE of death which was TOO MANY DRUGS in his 112 lb. body. DRUGS killed Prince. And maybe he took TOO MANY DRUGS knowingly.

And for those who say, 'but maybe he took too many drugs unknowingly' I say BS: He's OD's by his own hand just a week before, had struggled with drug addiction for years and he looked like it at the end.

Denial is the strongest human emotion...though NOT a good look.

Thank you, Bod. Strange how they "thought it could be "homicide"( only as in : someone gave him the "kill pill'). Did he swallow the first kill pill" in Moline too? If so, why would any sane person who thought he swallowed a kill pill that was planted 7 days prior, not :

A: Report that he thought he was targeted for murder because someone slipped him a "kill pill" in Atlanta?

B: Throw every single pill out on the suspicion that any pill could have been tainted /laced with the same "kill pill " ingredient once he got back home?

C: Eliminate all access and contact with persons that had an opportunity to plant the "kill pill" ? That should include all staff , family members, etc.

D. Lastly, and in reference to the (7) seven days prior to his death, is there anything in his behavior that would lead one to believe that Prince was targeted? Do you invite strangers into your house for a private show if you believe you were almost murdered (7) seven days before?

The truth was hidden amongst years of diversion. The only way we were granted privilege to that truth (and how badly off Prince was) , is solely because of what happened in Moline. If not for that one event, we would know absolutely nothing to this very day.

[Edited 3/11/18 20:33pm]

OMG Menes, Thanks and Blessings for this bit of clarity amidst the dross...just weeping, weeping...for the path not taken, for what might have been, for the lack of a small portion of True Love in a life infused with love, sex, lovesely...and emptiness, the shallow and the fake, loneliness...and then ...nothing, nothing special at all. RIP...

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Menes said:

Thank you, Bod. Strange how they "thought it could be "homicide"( only as in : someone gave him the "kill pill'). Did he swallow the first kill pill" in Moline too? If so, why would any sane person who thought he swallowed a kill pill that was planted 7 days prior, not :

A: Report that he thought he was targeted for murder because someone slipped him a "kill pill" in Atlanta?

B: Throw every single pill out on the suspicion that any pill could have been tainted /laced with the same "kill pill " ingredient once he got back home?

C: Eliminate all access and contact with persons that had an opportunity to plant the "kill pill" ? That should include all staff , family members, etc.

D. Lastly, and in reference to the (7) seven days prior to his death, is there anything in his behavior that would lead one to believe that Prince was targeted? Do you invite strangers into your house for a private show if you believe you were almost murdered (7) seven days before?

The truth was hidden amongst years of diversion. The only way we were granted privilege to that truth (and how badly off Prince was) , is solely because of what happened in Moline. If not for that one event, we would know absolutely nothing to this very day.

[Edited 3/11/18 20:33pm]

OMG Menes, Thanks and Blessings for this bit of clarity amidst the dross...just weeping, weeping...for the path not taken, for what might have been, for the lack of a small portion of True Love in a life infused with love, sex, lovesely...and emptiness, the shallow and the fake, loneliness...and then ...nothing, nothing special at all. RIP...

Yes. There was never any real attachment to things , 'cept for the image and the music. Prince was self and self was Prince. We admired the ego and everything that came along with it. That Moline incident shattered everything personified. Pain or no pain, there was no recovering from that.


All of these so called "friends", "family", "band members", were powerless. Most are still trapped in that mental time warp of silence and are still very much afraid. Even if they knew, what would they say? Who would they tell? Who would believe them while he was alive and still playing shows?Through this untimely death,they are able to speak .Yet, some of them are extremely hesitant when they do speak. They were all conditioned for years.


This business about cameras, murder, etc. omits glaring and obvious points... He saw it( the pills) , he knew it ( the consequences), he took it (accepted the possibility of death from it).

cloveringold85 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

The ME said any other health problems i.e. cancer, HIV, ebola, heart disease, etc DID NOT CAUSE OR CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE of his death. The CAUSE of his death was opoid toxicity and it was ruled accidental bc he didn't leave a note. Period. This has been explained only a gazillion times here.

Also, the Sheriff DID NOT rule out suicide; it's the ME's job, based on long-training, to determine the CAUSE of death which was TOO MANY DRUGS in his 112 lb. body. DRUGS killed Prince. And maybe he took TOO MANY DRUGS knowingly.

And for those who say, 'but maybe he took too many drugs unknowingly' I say BS: He's OD's by his own hand just a week before, had struggled with drug addiction for years and he looked like it at the end.

Denial is the strongest human emotion...though NOT a good look.

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You are entitled to your opinion.

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I know Prince died of opioid toxicity. We all know that. I was just pointing-out the fact that the ME did not list any other contributors to his death or underlying illnesses, because some people here are hell-bent on saying he was sick and a drug-addict.

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Yes, the Sheriff has to rule out whether or not it was a suicide, because that is their expertise and that is their job to do so.

Sigh the ME report avalible to the public tell us nothing about any other health issues he may have since they did not cause his death. Additional info would be in the ME report and his health records.

The terminal illness story is coming from his own family members.

Menes said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

OMG Menes, Thanks and Blessings for this bit of clarity amidst the dross...just weeping, weeping...for the path not taken, for what might have been, for the lack of a small portion of True Love in a life infused with love, sex, lovesely...and emptiness, the shallow and the fake, loneliness...and then ...nothing, nothing special at all. RIP...

Yes. There was never any real attachment to things , 'cept for the image and the music. Prince was self and self was Prince. We admired the ego and everything that came along with it. That Moline incident shattered everything personified. Pain or no pain, there was no recovering from that.


All of these so called "friends", "family", "band members", were powerless. Most are still trapped in that mental time warp of silence and are still very much afraid. Even if they knew, what would they say? Who would they tell? Who would believe them while he was alive and still playing shows?Through this untimely death,they are able to speak .Yet, some of them are extremely hesitant when they do speak. They were all conditioned for years.


This business about cameras, murder, etc. omits glaring and obvious points... He saw it( the pills) , he knew it ( the consequences), he took it (accepted the possibility of death from it).

But why? He had access to legit pills and could have stayed in the hospital and been made to feel comfortable. Prince was not poor street junkie with no options.

I am not sure why the fact that he did this on purpose and set up the whole situation is not believable. Some people think he was out of control on drugs for 20 years and it had no effect on his work output but you cannot believe he killed himself and it may not of had anything to do with a drug problem which if you have the money you can solve and not be in discomfort.

The only other option is that pills got mixed up but again how did this happen?

Also remember the police have said it is an active homicide investigation which we believe is due to the police looking for the dealer. The police have never issued a statement about looking for a dealer.

I agree with Laura's statement. Whether it was Prince or a family member or anyone else, we have to have an open mind on this. The ME's report was simply the cause of death - it did not include the autopsy report. The most terrible aspect of this for me is that Prince apparently was alone - physically and emotionally. He had no one. I didn't have a clue that this was the case. I don't think any of his fans did.

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I agree with Laura's statement. Whether it was Prince or a family member or anyone else, we have to have an open mind on this. The ME's report was simply the cause of death - it did not include the autopsy report. The most terrible aspect of this for me is that Prince apparently was alone - physically and emotionally. He had no one. I didn't have a clue that this was the case. I don't think any of his fans did.

I think that is the way he fixed it. He fixed and helped people not the other way around.

I guess the line of thinking that Prince had enough, so he just downed some street drugs that were mislabeled mind you, and wanted out is the easiest way to put this all to bed, but it's not that simple.

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There is a lot of pertinent information that we do not have access to, such as:

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What are/were the results of the blood tests that Dr. Schulemberg was bringing to Prince on April 21, 2016?

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Paisley Park was not declared a crime scene until 2-weeks after Prince died. Things were touched and moved and evidence was tampered with; Prince's laptop was moved. Do you understand what this means? It means that an accurate investigation did not take place. None of this seems troubling to any of you?

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Were the bottles of pills fingerprinted?

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Prince was making odd and strange tweets before he died. He made comments on social media about his disagreement with WB and the PR remaster.

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We still don't know if he ingested the pills or got the Fentanyl through a patch or injection, right?

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This is all just the tip of the iceberg with all the strange circumstances surrounding Prince's death.

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If Prince wanted to kill himself, why would he need so many mislabled pills laying around Paisley Park? He only needed to take "ONE" pill, right?

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We don't have enough evidence to suggest it was a suicide. Prince was partying -- he wasn't depressed and living in isolation in the weeks and days before he died.

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[Edited 3/12/18 13:50pm]