lastdecember said:

morningsong said:

Big unanswered question which has not been leaked anywhere is how much did he take to get that kind of dosage. 1, 2, 7, 20 pills. Given that is was orignally not deemed a suicide, I would assume the ME did not find a uniquely high quantity of pills not digested in his stomach, yet there still was an extremely high level of fentanyl in his stomach as well. So I'm assuming one pill had massive amounts of fentanyl in it, which could have flooded his system suddenly in massively high doses.

Also the fact that he lost conscious on the plane means that he had to be "on it" during the actual concert or had just taken it in his dressing room. I dont know how quick it works but from the time the concert ended till the flight landed was not very long.

I don't either, I do find it weird that none of the "experts" seem to be relaying that type of information, it's all vague and can be interpeted all kinds of wacky ways.

Lovejunky said:

rogifan said:

One, what is new here? Seems like what we already knew. Two, who is leaking shit to the Associated Press? And why leak this now?

Thats the question...

We are being Prepped

I used to think that but I think it's just to have something say more than anything else.

benni said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Incorrect. He commissioned this after he had to cancel a gig + I think there was Japanese fan on Twitter who Prince & 3EG interacted with [her name escapes me] who attempted suicide at the same time?

Not to mention that the day of the cancelled show (April 7th), an 89 year old caretaker at the Fox Theater had passed away. He was known as the Phantom of the Fox Theater and lived at the theater. Prince posted the avatar on April 7th.


https://www.ajc.com/news/...gojb7I41M/

[Edited 3/27/18 5:54am]

bolding and reposting so that MORE PEOPLE READ the history of his Teary Twitter Avatar...

so sick of hearing that he planned his own Death and this being used as evidence !!!!!!!!!!!!!

lastdecember said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Tyka was the closest to Prince. Who was her only FULL blooded relative left. She knew first out of ALL the siblings that Prince was very ill. WAY before the overdoses and said out of her own mouth that Prince was "TIRED".

Also MAYTE has said numerous times "I knew he wasnt well" or "Heard this from others" in January of 2016 which was also the last call to Morris Day. Sorry folks people in the circle knew something was up and it was not OH he is addicted. The man's appearance was way different very quickly.

Exactly

ChocolateBox3121 said:

lastdecember said:

Also MAYTE has said numerous times "I knew he wasnt well" or "Heard this from others" in January of 2016 which was also the last call to Morris Day. Sorry folks people in the circle knew something was up and it was not OH he is addicted. The man's appearance was way different very quickly.

Exactly

yep

People say there's no evidence that he had hip surgery (well, besides the scars on his body). But there's also no real evidence that he was terminal ill. Some people say this, others say that, and I doubt that they know it, I think people from his camp are making assumptions just like the rest of us.

What we know from the leaks is, that the drug had time to circulate in his blood, so it's possible that he felt that something wasn't right with what he took and tried to seek help. It could be possible that he ran to the elevator and then collapsed there.

And Mayte saying "I knew he wasn't doing well" could also be said if he was addicted or abusing drugs, because it's an illness as well, just like cancer and these people don't do so well, do they? If he was sick with cancer for three years, then why didn't he lose more weight than he did? Like, three years with pancreatic cancer and he still had 112 lbs? I'm 5'2 also and I weigh 112lbs too, I look thinner than I did before, specially on my arms and legs but people don't think I am sick.

Funny thing is, my uncle is addicted to cannabis and cigaretts and he lost weight too, a stranger would think he got cancer, but he doesn't have cancer, he's just addicted to cannabis and cigaretts, other than that, he's doing fine.

Let's say he got diagnosed with cancer three years prior, I don't think it would've been possible to give these concerts, because patients say they only got "just enough energy to do one little thing and then it's gone". After three years without decent medical treatment, Prince wouldn't have been able to put up shows like this.

My question is: Why is it so hard for some folks here to believe that he took these pills to manage his hip pain? It's no lesser reason than the cancer thing, it's just a man being in pain, trying to manage it. But it seems like the only legit reason for a person to take these pills would be cancer.

[Edited 3/27/18 11:12am]

PennyPurple said:

GrayDorian said:

Lovejunky said:

rogifan said:

Lovejunky said:

Thats the question...

We are being Prepped

I find the timing of this leak suspect. And if law enforcement leaked this over a year ago why would they need to leak it again?

I hear you..I said the same thing when this was posted on its own thread before being relocated to here..

Very suspect...

They are planting seeds....something is coming...

endiadj said:

endiadj said:

Ya'll do know that drug addiction alone can lead to changes in physical appearance, weight loss, hair loss, skin color, ect. There doesn't have to be another another underlying illness. I feel like some will not be satified until they find out he was suffering from some incurable disease that lead to this outcome.😑

I don't know, I'm in limbo about it, not a comfortable place to be but not enough info to be anywhere else. But looking back on what went around in circles regarding why Williams commited suicide, people keep insisting that it was only because he had been battle depression for years and it finally caught up to him, personally, I had a hard time believeing that depression alone could have pushed him over the edge like that, he survived through too much. We saw there was an extra element in his case, I'm believe there is something extra happening here, just don't know what.

ThatWhiteDude said:

endiadj said:

Ya'll do know that drug addiction alone can lead to changes in physical appearance, weight loss, hair loss, skin color, ect. There doesn't have to be another another underlying illness. I feel like some will not be satified until they find out he was suffering from some incurable disease that lead to this outcome.😑

I second that! Specially the last Part.

hell with that, sure it's possible it was just drugs but i ain't ready to just put it down to that yet.

rogifan said:

endiadj said:

rogifan said:

Midwest Medical Examiners put out a press release basically saying we didn’t leak anything and we’ve released everything we’re legally allowed to release. http://www.anokacounty.us...px?AID=916

Interesting..

SO

Someone is leaiking information that may or may NOT be true...

and the MME feels strongly enough about that to release a statement TODAY

rogifan said:

Lovejunky said:

lastdecember said:

I think the people that are so QUICK to say there was not one other health issue besides the fact he was hooked on this drug. Sorry but something got him taking it. It's also said he had Hip Surgery and yet no one has ever proven that this is actually true, there is just a timeline given of 2011 when he started to disappear from the radar. But what was causing his hip to hurt was it the dancing and jumping on heels, consider the fact that Prince has really done ZERO dancing like he did since 1998 when he hurt his ankle in New Jersey. The Drug he was taking is never prescribed as a pain killer for things like that, it is given to those recovering from effects and pain from chemo and cancer surgeries. So YES he was addicted to this, he is not the first nor the last, SHIT Johnny Mathis was addicted to pain killers in the 60's and 70's, as were many others.

People seem to be having short memories.

The PUBLIC autopsy report reported a scar on his hip, and I believe 1 on his knee.

PennyPurple said:

lastdecember said:

I think the people that are so QUICK to say there was not one other health issue besides the fact he was hooked on this drug. Sorry but something got him taking it. It's also said he had Hip Surgery and yet no one has ever proven that this is actually true, there is just a timeline given of 2011 when he started to disappear from the radar. But what was causing his hip to hurt was it the dancing and jumping on heels, consider the fact that Prince has really done ZERO dancing like he did since 1998 when he hurt his ankle in New Jersey. The Drug he was taking is never prescribed as a pain killer for things like that, it is given to those recovering from effects and pain from chemo and cancer surgeries. So YES he was addicted to this, he is not the first nor the last, SHIT Johnny Mathis was addicted to pain killers in the 60's and 70's, as were many others.

People seem to be having short memories.

The PUBLIC autopsy report reported a scar on his hip, and I believe 1 on his knee.

Left Hip and Lower Right Leg..

206Michelle said:

bondno9 said:

We have to remember that it's still unknown if he had an underlying health condition that contributed to death (i.e. cancer, etc). That's a very important piece of the puzzle still missing.

This is a good point. We know that he had hip replacement surgery in 2010. There are reports that he had ongoing hip and ankle issues: https://www.cbsnews.com/n...-surgery/. I don’t recall watching any videos of performances from 2011 until his death during which he was jumping off of risers, but I have watched performances from the Welcome 2 America tour during which he is performing dance routines that are rigorous but certainly less strenuous than choreography from his performances in the 80s and early 90s. So while the choreography was less strenuous in his later years, he was still dancing onstage in the early 2010s. If he had a chronic illness in addition to the chronic physical pain, this begs the question, Why was he was still touring in the last weeks of his life instead of addressing additional underlying health concerns that are presently unknown to us? Piano and a Microphone was probably the least physically strenuous tour he ever did, but he was still touring. Financially, he did not need to keep touring, as he had tens of millions of dollars in cash when he died: http://m.startribune.com/...09921405/. . The only time of which I am aware when he went for more than a day without performing or composing music was during his son Aamir’s short life in October 1996. After Amiir died, Mayte isn’t entirely clear in her book as to how long she and grieved together (see p. 213). However, Amiir died October 22 and per PrinceVault, performed some one-off shows on October 26 and 27, 1996, so spent no more than 4 days grieving without performing or composing music. The death of Aamir was very likely the single worst event of his adult life, and he spent, at most 4 days, before he resumed composing and performing music, as well as promoting the Emancipation album. . The reason I refer back to 1996 is to make the point that Prince almost never stopped working/making music. I wonder if he may have worked himself to death because he continued to work instead of taking a hiatus so that he could address his chronic pain, opioid dependency, or whatever else might have been ailing him. [Edited 3/27/18 11:05am]

EXCELLENT points 206Michelle...thanks..

PennyPurple said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

rogifan said:

Midwest Medical Examiners put out a press release basically saying we didn’t leak anything and we’ve released everything we’re legally allowed to release. http://www.anokacounty.us...px?AID=916

Mmmm someone leaked something

...A year ago.....

PennyPurple said:

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

rogifan said:

Midwest Medical Examiners put out a press release basically saying we didn’t leak anything and we’ve released everything we’re legally allowed to release. http://www.anokacounty.us...px?AID=916

Mmmm someone leaked something

...A year ago.....

So they just decided to re-leak it now?

Strawberrylova123 said:

rogifan said:

So they just decided to re-leak it now?

Exactly! This info was out last year so why is all of the major news outlets picking up just now? Something is about to happen

ya, but how do we know if it'll have any fairness or "justice' in it at all? the po po's do anything to fuck up black men's lives so if it goes to that, how seriously do we even take it. They'll blame someone for whatever they can. It'll be interesting.

ThatWhiteDude said:

just promotion for the celebration thing