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Reply #510 posted 03/26/18 9:15pm

disch
Hmm I don’t think I claimed anything about which addicts are scared straight, just that you posited that the only possibilities for prince od’ing twice are insanity or suicide but I would also say that addicted people sometimes take risks that seem crazy to a non-addicted person but that doesn’t mean they’re actively trying to die. And that there are a lot of variables in this case that we’ve all talked about (for example what prince did or didn’t know about the composition and toxicity of all the pills in his possession)
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The comment about “people coming in and out” was in response to your comment that similar fentanyl laced weren’t found in the Chanhassen area. I was saying that his life put him in contact with people from all over the place and who knows if one of them was a supplier .
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Menes said:



disch said:


People who are addicted commonly od by accident more than once. Not everyone is scared straight after one close call. As for the origin of the drugs: princes life was far different than most peoples. He traveled far and wide (including in his last months), knew people all over and had people coming in and out of pp from all over. I don’t think he was restricted to the Chanhassen market for drugs (or for anything else). Plus there’s always the internet. Menes said:


Correct. Either we deem him insane , or, sane enough to know what happened a mere (7) days prior. He chose to ignore every bit of warning signs that was as clear as a sunny day. How accidental can it be to wrap yourself around the same tree twice when you knew that speeding on black ice almost killed you the first time you hit the same damn tree?




I don't know how you determined which particular addict is scared and who is not after one close call. Quite the claim. Fact remains, he knew what the resulting effects were pursuant to shoveling something down the hatch (7) days prior.

Regardless of how "different" his life was, he, not anyone else is responsible for ingesting the drugs.So what does it matter who came in and out of the house? Furthermore, if he thought someone who came in the house could be responsible for the initial "trial by fire" , he sure as hell didn't learn a damn thing from that. His behavior after the fact, says it all. This is not a person devoid of logic or reasonable cognitive skills.

I do agree that it is possible that he used the internet as a medium for the transaction.

Maybe Mule will insert that part in the manifesto. Surely you will read it .


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Reply #511 posted 03/26/18 9:34pm

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Menes said:




PennyPurple said:



Thanks Benni!



Those look like the same numbers that were released several months ago, that were leaked.

It sucks.


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I can't see how he was not a fentanyl user for a long time .That "kill pill" was merely : Taking more than would be customary when withdrawals set in. No way he would not know that the previous dosage of anything resembling an opiate caused him to nearly die. He would have had to have suffered a complete loss of all cognitive skills ( which is an insane and unfounded idea).

According to the DEA reports, there are no known "kill pills" circulating in the midwest that for some miraculous reason , skipped over the population and ended up in his house. All pills ( with recorded names) are listed, specifically, before and during the time of his passing.

Lastly, nothing that was found @ PP would match anything that was in circulation/demand.

This is a long time user who knew what he was taking and chose to take even more of it. Where he got it from is irrelevant. (7) days and death ensued.



Yes, I believe this report confirms that his initial massive intake was not enough to kill him bc he had built up such a tolerance ..but the subsequent injestion, the contents of which were found in his stomach, provided the critical/fatal 'overdose'...and I also believe he knew it would end the way it did. RIP





Y'all are just totally disregarding the fact that Prince had complete blood work done Wednesday, April 20th. It's in the warrants, remember? One article come along and now the preferred speculation is damned near being shoved down everybody's throat. It was also posted in those same publications months ago that he did NOT have fentanyl in his system showing he was NOT a longtime fentanyl user. Geesh. Your opinion isn't the ONLY possible explanation especially when we aren't working with ALL the reports.
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Reply #512 posted 03/26/18 9:36pm

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2004Fan said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Oh god! This is the picture on my cell phone. 😔

Clearly, the above had to be commissioned by Prince to RedFoxBandit.

It says more than words could ever say.

Wake up.

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Reply #513 posted 03/26/18 10:15pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



2004Fan said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:



Oh god! This is the picture on my cell phone. 😔

Clearly, the above had to be commissioned by Prince to RedFoxBandit.


It says more than words could ever say.


Wake up.





Yes he did,and obviously he told the artist to make the image look like him in his current state, bone thin, cheek bones protruding, Afro, sunglasses, the tear, the third eye, everything...but I have always wondered about the extra large bottom lip...and in some of his last photos the lip does look big. In all his other avatars his lips are the same...he was as thin many times before but his lips did not look different or enlarged. Obviously he thought they looked different because he commissioned the piece...it's just something I have not seen anyone discuss, and I have always wondered about...
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Reply #514 posted 03/26/18 11:42pm

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morningsong said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Yes, I believe this report confirms that his initial massive intake was not enough to kill him bc he had built up such a tolerance ..but the subsequent injestion, the contents of which were found in his stomach, provided the critical/fatal 'overdose'...and I also believe he knew it would end the way it did. RIP

Y'all are just totally disregarding the fact that Prince had complete blood work done Wednesday, April 20th. It's in the warrants, remember? One article come along and now the preferred speculation is damned near being shoved down everybody's throat. It was also posted in those same publications months ago that he did NOT have fentanyl in his system showing he was NOT a longtime fentanyl user. Geesh. Your opinion isn't the ONLY possible explanation especially when we aren't working with ALL the reports. [Edited 3/26/18 21:37pm]

CO Sign Morningsong..

Not to mention the M.E, Angelique Quinn Strobl was somewhat of an EXPERT on Fentanyl

THere are three Academic papers out there with her name on them.

She ruled Accidental...

or are you guys saying you know better than the M.E ?

or that perhaps she is involved in some kind of conspiracy/cover up and lied ?

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Reply #515 posted 03/26/18 11:49pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

2004Fan said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: Oh god! This is the picture on my cell phone. 😔

Clearly, the above had to be commissioned by Prince to RedFoxBandit.

It says more than words could ever say.

Wake up.


Yep.

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Reply #516 posted 03/27/18 12:06am

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And now from Billboard. https://www.billboard.com...itter&

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Reply #517 posted 03/27/18 1:33am

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LittlePurpleYoda said:

And now from Billboard. https://www.billboard.com...itter&

It will appear all over the place now.

RIP sad
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Reply #518 posted 03/27/18 2:01am

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yeah,I saw that same article on Yahoo news a few hours ago confused

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Reply #519 posted 03/27/18 3:40am

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One, what is new here? Seems like what we already knew. Two, who is leaking shit to the Associated Press? And why leak this now?
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Reply #520 posted 03/27/18 4:41am

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Clearly, the above had to be commissioned by Prince to RedFoxBandit.

It says more than words could ever say.

Wake up.

Yes he did,and obviously he told the artist to make the image look like him in his current state, bone thin, cheek bones protruding, Afro, sunglasses, the tear, the third eye, everything...but I have always wondered about the extra large bottom lip...and in some of his last photos the lip does look big. In all his other avatars his lips are the same...he was as thin many times before but his lips did not look different or enlarged. Obviously he thought they looked different because he commissioned the piece...it's just something I have not seen anyone discuss, and I have always wondered about...

Incorrect. He commissioned this after he had to cancel a gig + I think there was Japanese fan on Twitter who Prince & 3EG interacted with [her name escapes me] who attempted suicide at the same time?

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Reply #521 posted 03/27/18 5:11am

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rogifan said:

One, what is new here? Seems like what we already knew. Two, who is leaking shit to the Associated Press? And why leak this now?

Precisely.

The family were given the full, uncensored autopsy report just over a week ago and we already have part of that confidential report leaked to the media.

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Reply #522 posted 03/27/18 5:38am

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Yes he did,and obviously he told the artist to make the image look like him in his current state, bone thin, cheek bones protruding, Afro, sunglasses, the tear, the third eye, everything...but I have always wondered about the extra large bottom lip...and in some of his last photos the lip does look big. In all his other avatars his lips are the same...he was as thin many times before but his lips did not look different or enlarged. Obviously he thought they looked different because he commissioned the piece...it's just something I have not seen anyone discuss, and I have always wondered about...

Incorrect. He commissioned this after he had to cancel a gig + I think there was Japanese fan on Twitter who Prince & 3EG interacted with [her name escapes me] who attempted suicide at the same time?


Not to mention that the day of the cancelled show (April 7th), an 89 year old caretaker at the Fox Theater had passed away. He was known as the Phantom of the Fox Theater and lived at the theater. Prince posted the avatar on April 7th.


https://www.ajc.com/news/...gojb7I41M/

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Reply #523 posted 03/27/18 6:20am

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OperatingThetan said:



rogifan said:


One, what is new here? Seems like what we already knew. Two, who is leaking shit to the Associated Press? And why leak this now?


Precisely.



The family were given the full, uncensored autopsy report just over a week ago and we already have part of that confidential report leaked to the media.






Yes, who is leaking this stuff?!? Also it seems to me to be another instance of stuff we already know (that was probably previously leaked by someone) being passed off as new information. And the outrage machine starts all over again. Sorry Prince for my cursing but a big FU to whoever is leaking this stuff.
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Reply #524 posted 03/27/18 6:26am

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rogifan said:

OperatingThetan said:



rogifan said:


One, what is new here? Seems like what we already knew. Two, who is leaking shit to the Associated Press? And why leak this now?


Precisely.



The family were given the full, uncensored autopsy report just over a week ago and we already have part of that confidential report leaked to the media.






Yes, who is leaking this stuff?!? Also it seems to me to be another instance of stuff we already know (that was probably previously leaked by someone) being passed off as new information. And the outrage machine starts all over again. Sorry Prince for my cursing but a big FU to whoever is leaking this stuff.


Agreed.

The new details here are revealing as to the source because they detail the exact percentages of fentanyl in Prince's blood, stomach and other organs. This kind of information would only be available in the full confidential autopsy report (not the brief cause of death report we received earlier), the same report released to the family just a week or so ago.

Prior to the full autopsy report being provided to the family at their request, none of the details had leaked from the authorities nor been made available at all. Now we know the exact percentage of fentanyl in Prince's liver along with the rest of the world? Seems highly suspect to me.
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Reply #525 posted 03/27/18 6:31am

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rogifan said:

One, what is new here? Seems like what we already knew. Two, who is leaking shit to the Associated Press? And why leak this now?


Judges orders was for the information to be released to family and their legal counsel. NOT to 3rd parties otherwise there would be contempt of court, etc.

So someone has gone against the Judges order. tsk tsk disbelief

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Reply #526 posted 03/27/18 7:07am

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OperatingThetan said:

rogifan said:


Yes, who is leaking this stuff?!? Also it seems to me to be another instance of stuff we already know (that was probably previously leaked by someone) being passed off as new information. And the outrage machine starts all over again. Sorry Prince for my cursing but a big FU to whoever is leaking this stuff.


Agreed.

The new details here are revealing as to the source because they detail the exact percentages of fentanyl in Prince's blood, stomach and other organs. This kind of information would only be available in the full confidential autopsy report (not the brief cause of death report we received earlier), the same report released to the family just a week or so ago.

Prior to the full autopsy report being provided to the family at their request, none of the details had leaked from the authorities nor been made available at all. Now we know the exact percentage of fentanyl in Prince's liver along with the rest of the world? Seems highly suspect to me.

Highly suspect. No question in my mind that someone in the family is leaking this. The question is who and why. There isn’t one member of the family that I trust right now. And that includes those who aren’t named heirs. hmph!
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Reply #527 posted 03/27/18 7:29am

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rogifan said:

OperatingThetan said:
Agreed. The new details here are revealing as to the source because they detail the exact percentages of fentanyl in Prince's blood, stomach and other organs. This kind of information would only be available in the full confidential autopsy report (not the brief cause of death report we received earlier), the same report released to the family just a week or so ago. Prior to the full autopsy report being provided to the family at their request, none of the details had leaked from the authorities nor been made available at all. Now we know the exact percentage of fentanyl in Prince's liver along with the rest of the world? Seems highly suspect to me.
Highly suspect. No question in my mind that someone in the family is leaking this. The question is who and why. There isn’t one member of the family that I trust right now. And that includes those who aren’t named heirs. hmph!

Maybe this is someone in the family pushing back against the rumors that fam members said he had a terminal illness...maybe they just want to put the cards on the table and let people see what killed him and that (no suicide note notwithstanding) taking that much of anything is a purposeful act.

Maybe the terminal illness rumor is so disturbing to the fam bc it implies that they weren't 'there' for him when he was ill...while many had been urging that he seek help for years re his 'pain management' approach.

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Reply #528 posted 03/27/18 7:41am

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Bodhitheblackdog said:



rogifan said:


OperatingThetan said:
Agreed. The new details here are revealing as to the source because they detail the exact percentages of fentanyl in Prince's blood, stomach and other organs. This kind of information would only be available in the full confidential autopsy report (not the brief cause of death report we received earlier), the same report released to the family just a week or so ago. Prior to the full autopsy report being provided to the family at their request, none of the details had leaked from the authorities nor been made available at all. Now we know the exact percentage of fentanyl in Prince's liver along with the rest of the world? Seems highly suspect to me.

Highly suspect. No question in my mind that someone in the family is leaking this. The question is who and why. There isn’t one member of the family that I trust right now. And that includes those who aren’t named heirs. hmph!

Maybe this is someone in the family pushing back against the rumors that fam members said he had a terminal illness...maybe they just want to put the cards on the table and let people see what killed him and that (no suicide note notwithstanding) taking that much of anything is a purposeful act.



Maybe the terminal illness rumor is so disturbing to the fam bc it implies that they weren't 'there' for him when he was ill...while many had been urging that he seek help for years re his 'pain management' approach.


I’m not going to speculate (hence why I usually stay out of these threads) other than to say this leak had to come from within the family. And it’s absolutely disgusting. Whoever did it can f-k off and go to hell as far as I’m concerned.
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Reply #529 posted 03/27/18 7:48am

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This drug report isn't new. It was leaked a long time ago. Nobody wanted to believe it, said it wasn't the real deal.

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Reply #530 posted 03/27/18 7:56am

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PennyPurple said:

This drug report isn't new. It was leaked a long time ago. Nobody wanted to believe it, said it wasn't the real deal.

Correct you are. The heirs are aging. Time is running out to cash in big from a provider( ins. agency, medical facility etc.)

You could look at some of the scribble scrabble they write to their atty's and see right away that they are being manipulated.

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Reply #531 posted 03/27/18 8:01am

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I believe it is possible someone wanted charges or better investigation. They are leaking it to know that someone in Prince's camp acquired street drugs. After the OD they should be wise to throw everything out and get to rehab and not leave him alone. It's just wrong on so many levels.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #532 posted 03/27/18 8:04am

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PennyPurple said:

This drug report isn't new. It was leaked a long time ago. Nobody wanted to believe it, said it wasn't the real deal.

absolutely true, Penny...ALL of this has been known before...just NOT accepted by many here..

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Reply #533 posted 03/27/18 8:06am

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Laytonian reported this almost a year ago.

http://prince.org/msg/7/4...?&pg=1

Don't know why the link above takes you some where else. But the title of Laytonians thread was the Toxicology results now public and was posted in May/2017.

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Reply #534 posted 03/27/18 8:24am

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PennyPurple said:

Laytonian reported this almost a year ago.

http://prince.org/msg/7/4...?&pg=1

Don't know why the link above takes you some where else. But the title of Laytonians thread was the Toxicology results now public and was posted in May/2017.

[Edited 3/27/18 8:08am]

http://prince.org/msg/7/442603

This should be the correct link.

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Reply #535 posted 03/27/18 8:26am

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PennyPurple said:

This drug report isn't new. It was leaked a long time ago. Nobody wanted to believe it, said it wasn't the real deal.



I had never seen an excerpt from the full confidential autopsy report that lists the percentage of fentanyl in Prince's blood, stomach and other organs before, but the information at that link is similar.
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Reply #536 posted 03/27/18 8:30am

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Yes I remember reading detailed info about his toxicology levels last year. The leak probably didn’t come from the family but from someone in the me office or law enforcement. It’s not really that u usual or sinister for stuff to leak in a high profile case, and it’s not like we didn’t know he died from Fentanyl od.


TheEnglishGent said:



PennyPurple said:


Laytonian reported this almost a year ago.



http://prince.org/msg/7/4...?&pg=1




Don't know why the link above takes you some where else. But the title of Laytonians thread was the Toxicology results now public and was posted in May/2017.


[Edited 3/27/18 8:08am]




http://prince.org/msg/7/442603

This should be the correct link.

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Reply #537 posted 03/27/18 8:31am

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TheEnglishGent said:

PennyPurple said:

Laytonian reported this almost a year ago.

http://prince.org/msg/7/4...?&pg=1

Don't know why the link above takes you some where else. But the title of Laytonians thread was the Toxicology results now public and was posted in May/2017.

[Edited 3/27/18 8:08am]

http://prince.org/msg/7/442603

This should be the correct link.

Thank you.

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Reply #538 posted 03/27/18 8:47am

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PennyPurple said:

This drug report isn't new. It was leaked a long time ago. Nobody wanted to believe it, said it wasn't the real deal.


When was this full confidential toxicology report previously released? This conclusion of this report, that he died from a fentanyl overdose, is not new. However, some of the details are new, such as the specific amount of fentanyl.
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Reply #539 posted 03/27/18 8:53am

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I posted here last week that info regarding his full autopsy would be leaked
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