MPLSoUND doesn't suck.

The Black Album is boring and bland.

Under The Cherry Moon is my favorite movie of all time.

For You (album) is better than Prince (album).

Purple Rain and 1999 were his worst albums of the 80s.

Prince's output in the last 10 years is better than what was on the charts.

Shhh is a bad sex song. Do Me, Baby is worse.

Bohemian67 said:

rialb said:

Country and Western?

He probaby could but I wouldn't listen to it.

But it's too easy for him I think.

There is a huge difference between saying he could do it and him actually doing it. C'mon, Prince, break out the honky tonk piano and record an album of crying in your beer music!

Efan said:

Sheila had a more profound and lasting impact on Prince's music than Wendy & Lisa did.

<--- tiptoes out of the thread

irreverence said:

Why do people automatically think "negative" when they think controversial?

Here are some that seems controversial on this forum:

• Wedding Feast is kind of funny, shows Prince as a musician knowing his genres, also outside of RocknRoll

• Had U is a great outro, short, simple, good lyrics

• The Gold Experience is pure filler tracks



[Edited 4/5/11 6:21am]

Prince knows very little outside of popular music forms and Wedding Feast does nothing but PROVE that fact. I've studied musical forms from early classical to modern, Indian music to contemporary pop. I know with what forms Prince is familiar and he is NOT familiar with much outside of his usual schtick. I went to one of the best jazz schools in the world and I can tell you Prince knows nothing about that, either. He may know something about the history of these things, but his efforts fall very short.

This has been both a friendly reply AND a controversial opinion. KTHNXBAI

Bohemian67 said:

rialb said:

Country and Western?

He probaby could but I wouldn't listen to it.

But it's too easy for him I think.

Think again. He hasn't got the attention span to keep a cohesive story going lyrically and this is the defining characteristic of good C&W. It does exist.

[Edited 4/5/11 13:27pm]

i have said before that prince went from doing what he does best to just trying to prove he can do everything else just as well. while he is capable at many instruments, he simply is not as capable at many different music genres. furthermore under the cherry moon really is a fantastic movie .. and graffiti bridge isn't that bad except the very end.

SoulAlive said:

The SOTT/Lovesexy band was better than the Revolution.

Love this thread. Let's see....

1. Under the Cherry Moon was a good movie.

2. Musicology is a strong album.

3. "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World" is just an alright song.

4. The Gold Experience is NOT genius.

5. And as stated in a previous post, The Revolution was not his best bad, Lovesexy/SOTT was.

formallypickles said:

prince is a bitch

Love it.

just1lousydime said:

Prince's output in the last 10 years is better than what was on the charts.

Well sure, but I've had better bowel movements than what's in the charts, so....

just1lousydime said:

Shhh is a bad sex song. Do Me, Baby is worse.

So true. Prince does HORRIBLE sex songs. *slurp, slurp, slurp*

The hit singles and Adore notwithstanding, Sign O the Times is one boring-ass album. Sparse, unsatisfying, rambling. No impact, no interesting grooves, nothing to go on. It just sounds like a bunch of demos.

Prince should throw in the towel after Welcome 2 America, and while he's at it, he should release whatever's in that goddamn vault already. He really has no reason to keep us waiting since he'll never have another hit album that people will actually like, rather than pick up because of a marketing gimmick. Who is actually talking about his music anymore? He's been running on publicity stunts since the days and he knows it, hence the trying-really-hard-to-be-old school sound of 20Ten.

Despite all the pointless mysticism and cryptic B.S. he puts us through, there's no mystery to Prince. He's really a sad, lonely man with serious ego issues.

He looks a lot older under all that makeup.

He probably frequents the Org. Not controversial, but come on, little guy, we know you're in here somewhere.

[Edited 4/5/11 15:31pm]

Alguy said:

The hit singles and Adore notwithstanding, Sign O the Times is one boring-ass album. Sparse, unsatisfying, rambling. No impact, no interesting grooves, nothing to go on. It just sounds like a bunch of demos.

Prince should throw in the towel after Welcome 2 America, and while he's at it, he should release whatever's in that goddamn vault already. He really has no reason to keep us waiting since he'll never have another hit album that people will actually like, rather than pick up because of a marketing gimmick. Who is actually talking about his music anymore? He's been running on publicity stunts since the days and he knows it, hence the trying-really-hard-to-be-old school sound of 20Ten.

Despite all the pointless mysticism and cryptic B.S. he puts us through, there's no mystery to Prince. He's really a sad, lonely man with serious ego issues.

He looks a lot older under all that makeup.

He probably frequents the Org. Not controversial, but come on, little guy, we know you're in here somewhere.

[Edited 4/5/11 15:31pm]

If he is on the Org, then somehow I think your approach is going to have the opposite effect to what we want. Reverse psychology might work better. So, Prince, please don't release any of that boring stuff you have in your vault. What we want is fresh new tracks like "Everybody Loves Me" and "Purple and Gold."

The Time was Prince duh!!

ParanoidAndroid said:

The Time was much better than Prince.

electricberet said:

Alguy said:

The hit singles and Adore notwithstanding, Sign O the Times is one boring-ass album. Sparse, unsatisfying, rambling. No impact, no interesting grooves, nothing to go on. It just sounds like a bunch of demos.

Prince should throw in the towel after Welcome 2 America, and while he's at it, he should release whatever's in that goddamn vault already. He really has no reason to keep us waiting since he'll never have another hit album that people will actually like, rather than pick up because of a marketing gimmick. Who is actually talking about his music anymore? He's been running on publicity stunts since the days and he knows it, hence the trying-really-hard-to-be-old school sound of 20Ten.

Despite all the pointless mysticism and cryptic B.S. he puts us through, there's no mystery to Prince. He's really a sad, lonely man with serious ego issues.

He looks a lot older under all that makeup.

He probably frequents the Org. Not controversial, but come on, little guy, we know you're in here somewhere.

[Edited 4/5/11 15:31pm]

If he is on the Org, then somehow I think your approach is going to have the opposite effect to what we want. Reverse psychology might work better. So, Prince, please don't release any of that boring stuff you have in your vault. What we want is fresh new tracks like "Everybody Loves Me" and "Purple and Gold."

I think we're all just curious about the unreleased stuff. If he released Elixer and not one of his fabled entire unreleased albums, I have some reservations. I still have Dirty Mind-Lovesexy and The Hits and that's all I really need. I just think it'd be interesting to see what he's had under lock and key all this time.

electricberet said:

Alguy said:

The hit singles and Adore notwithstanding, Sign O the Times is one boring-ass album. Sparse, unsatisfying, rambling. No impact, no interesting grooves, nothing to go on. It just sounds like a bunch of demos.

Prince should throw in the towel after Welcome 2 America, and while he's at it, he should release whatever's in that goddamn vault already. He really has no reason to keep us waiting since he'll never have another hit album that people will actually like, rather than pick up because of a marketing gimmick. Who is actually talking about his music anymore? He's been running on publicity stunts since the days and he knows it, hence the trying-really-hard-to-be-old school sound of 20Ten.

Despite all the pointless mysticism and cryptic B.S. he puts us through, there's no mystery to Prince. He's really a sad, lonely man with serious ego issues.

He looks a lot older under all that makeup.

He probably frequents the Org. Not controversial, but come on, little guy, we know you're in here somewhere.

[Edited 4/5/11 15:31pm]

If he is on the Org, then somehow I think your approach is going to have the opposite effect to what we want. Reverse psychology might work better. So, Prince, please don't release any of that boring stuff you have in your vault. What we want is fresh new tracks like "Everybody Loves Me" and "Purple and Gold."

You know what . For somebody to talk all that ahit your talking u need to keep your fuckin opinion 2 yourself. Prince is a Gemini 2 the heart, yeah some of the things he does takes it 2 far but he is a Genius. And if u don't have nothing good 2 say then get the fuck off the org buddy!

Are we being Controversial or do we mean the opposite to what we write?

trevion said:

electricberet said:

If he is on the Org, then somehow I think your approach is going to have the opposite effect to what we want. Reverse psychology might work better. So, Prince, please don't release any of that boring stuff you have in your vault. What we want is fresh new tracks like "Everybody Loves Me" and "Purple and Gold."

You know what . For somebody to talk all that ahit your talking u need to keep your fuckin opinion 2 yourself. Prince is a Gemini 2 the heart, yeah some of the things he does takes it 2 far but he is a Genius. And if u don't have nothing good 2 say then get the fuck off the org buddy!

Trevion, R U sure U R not Prince?

LOTSO2010 said:

Are we being Controversial or do we mean the opposite to what we write?

I'm not trying to b controversial I'm just checking people on what their saying about my man.

electricberet said:

trevion said:

You know what . For somebody to talk all that ahit your talking u need to keep your fuckin opinion 2 yourself. Prince is a Gemini 2 the heart, yeah some of the things he does takes it 2 far but he is a Genius. And if u don't have nothing good 2 say then get the fuck off the org buddy!

Trevion, R U sure U R not Prince?

No. I'm not Prince. Trevion is my sons name. His middle name is Prince. I have been 2 30 Prince concerts. I don't play when it comes 2 him.

* LotusFlow3r is the best album since TRC

* TRC was the best album since Lovesexy

* White Flags whipped both LotusFlow3r and TRC

* The Black Album was decent, but inferior to Lovesexy

* Wendy & Lisa did maximize Prince's composing abilities; and his writing has seen a downward spiral since their departure from his fold -- I don't care what his sales, or his sales relative to W&L's, suggest!

[Edited 4/5/11 16:35pm]

steakfinger said:

irreverence said:

Why do people automatically think "negative" when they think controversial?

Here are some that seems controversial on this forum:

• Wedding Feast is kind of funny, shows Prince as a musician knowing his genres, also outside of RocknRoll

• Had U is a great outro, short, simple, good lyrics

• The Gold Experience is pure filler tracks



[Edited 4/5/11 6:21am]

Prince knows very little outside of popular music forms and Wedding Feast does nothing but PROVE that fact. I've studied musical forms from early classical to modern, Indian music to contemporary pop. I know with what forms Prince is familiar and he is NOT familiar with much outside of his usual schtick. I went to one of the best jazz schools in the world and I can tell you Prince knows nothing about that, either. He may know something about the history of these things, but his efforts fall very short.

This has been both a friendly reply AND a controversial opinion. KTHNXBAI

great, nobody really cares though. Lots of people can go to a school, not many can do the things Prince did, including a lot of educated musicians.

steakfinger said:

irreverence said:

Why do people automatically think "negative" when they think controversial?

Here are some that seems controversial on this forum:

• Wedding Feast is kind of funny, shows Prince as a musician knowing his genres, also outside of RocknRoll

• Had U is a great outro, short, simple, good lyrics

• The Gold Experience is pure filler tracks



[Edited 4/5/11 6:21am]

Prince knows very little outside of popular music forms and Wedding Feast does nothing but PROVE that fact. I've studied musical forms from early classical to modern, Indian music to contemporary pop. I know with what forms Prince is familiar and he is NOT familiar with much outside of his usual schtick. I went to one of the best jazz schools in the world and I can tell you Prince knows nothing about that, either. He may know something about the history of these things, but his efforts fall very short.

This has been both a friendly reply AND a controversial opinion. KTHNXBAI

Yes, fair enough, but has Prince ever actually come right out and said "this music that I am doing is jazz?"

I'm not sure that he has.

ParanoidAndroid said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

No point in hiding, this thread is about airing our controversial opinions. You started this.

Oh...Okay.

SIGN 'O' THE TIMES ALBUM SOUNDS LIKE A CRAP!!!!

U MUST BE CRAZY!

the shit people come up with when it comes to Prince, no one rides Sinatra or Elvis for never writing a song in their lives, no one kills the Beatles because they needed George Martin and weren't the greatest musicians.

Lammastide said:

* LotusFlow3r is the best album since TRC

* TRC was the best album since Lovesexy

* White Flags whipped both LotusFlow3r and TRC

* Wendy & Lisa did maximize Prince's composing abilities; and his writing has seen a downward spiral since their departure from his fold -- I don't care what his sales, or his sales relative to W&L's, suggest!

NouveauDance said:

Lammastide said:

* LotusFlow3r is the best album since TRC

* TRC was the best album since Lovesexy

* White Flags whipped both LotusFlow3r and TRC

* Wendy & Lisa did maximize Prince's composing abilities; and his writing has seen a downward spiral since their departure from his fold -- I don't care what his sales, or his sales relative to W&L's, suggest!

I don't know what to think of wendy and lisa, I never remember being wowed by their actual musicianship, as far as what they contributed behind the scenes is unkown to me. Prince wrote plenty of great music before his heavy collabs with them and did lots after. It seems Prince felt that they brought something to the table when you listen to "Old Friends 4 Sale" but I thought that they were most important as an image thing, you know, the two white girls working with the black idiot savant angle.

mozfonky said:

NouveauDance said:

I don't know what to think of wendy and lisa, I never remember being wowed by their actual musicianship, as far as what they contributed behind the scenes is unkown to me. Prince wrote plenty of great music before his heavy collabs with them and did lots after. It seems Prince felt that they brought something to the table when you listen to "Old Friends 4 Sale" but I thought that they were most important as an image thing, you know, the two white girls working with the black idiot savant angle.

"Idiot savant?"

That's just mean!

"When Doves Cry" is an average song that sounds kind of half-assed and slightly try-hard. No other song seems to grasp so desperately to be a part of the project it was written for cept maybe "Batdance" which is complete shit.

mozfonky said:

NouveauDance said:

I don't know what to think of wendy and lisa, I never remember being wowed by their actual musicianship, as far as what they contributed behind the scenes is unkown to me. Prince wrote plenty of great music before his heavy collabs with them and did lots after. It seems Prince felt that they brought something to the table when you listen to "Old Friends 4 Sale" but I thought that they were most important as an image thing, you know, the two white girls working with the black idiot savant angle.

Eh, if you want to hear what Lisa & Wendy brought to Prince listen to "Power Fantastic" and "Sometimes it Snows in April."

Lammastide said:

mozfonky said:

I don't know what to think of wendy and lisa, I never remember being wowed by their actual musicianship, as far as what they contributed behind the scenes is unkown to me. Prince wrote plenty of great music before his heavy collabs with them and did lots after. It seems Prince felt that they brought something to the table when you listen to "Old Friends 4 Sale" but I thought that they were most important as an image thing, you know, the two white girls working with the black idiot savant angle.

"Idiot savant?"

That's just mean!

I should have clarified, I think most great rock artists go through a period where they think they need more culture, and, I think society plants the idea. Can't tell you how many times as a musician i've felt treated as some kind of wildman who needs taming, well, those rough edges are what make the magic of great rock.