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Reply #240 posted 09/28/08 1:51am

Twinkly1

I find the article to be quite interesting; therein Prince gives us insight to who he is today. Further, the 21 Nights book illustrates the behind the scenes Prince and the CD gives us a front row seat at the O2 after parties. There is no other artist doing it like Prince. woot!

His decision to be celibate is also insight into the man -- being celibate takes strength and resolution. If he were not, he could have said anything or nothing. What's so strange about valuing oneself? He says he feels liberated, maybe he's conquering those things he feels have hindered him from living the way he desires to live.

Its exciting to see all of this unfold. Big ups, P.

thumbs up!

Can't wait to see whats next.


cat

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Reply #241 posted 09/28/08 2:50am

Madison88

A very disarming article.....Prince is just slinging stuff in every different direction he can. Sodomy, Chicks, Politics, His love life, Breaking the law lol on and on and on.....I guess that's whatcha call SPIN! I call it "A Hot Mess!!!!" lol lol lol lol lol lol

Oh and bibles and JWs and being his own Lawyer??? OMG!!! "Do you believe in God?". What up with da bratha??? Intelligent Design??? I'm sorry but he doesn't seem very focused at the moment. I liked him better when he was married then he can control his wife and leave the rest of the world (and internet) alone for awhile.... and just make music..... wink He can't make an appointment??? He can't be found!! He can't be relied on... lol lol lol He can't really "stick" to anything or anyone??? Structure it is not.....someone put a brick on that man's head and make him just sit still for a second and think for himself. Celibacy doesn't make better music ya doofus. Oh that's right you're free....there's an enigma!!! lol lol lol Thanks for clearing all that up for us Prince...Ya Mr. Cool/Dingbat.....I thought I was a ditz. It's like that movie "Just say Anything".... lol lol lol lol
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Reply #242 posted 09/28/08 3:41am

purplesweat

Cyberspace "is a black hole to me," he says. "YouTube is the hippest network, and they abuse copyright right and left. You see a song like Purple Rain turned into Pure Cocaine; what should my response be? I chase the money to find out who's behind it. It's a matter of principle. I don't want my music bastardized."


Heh, can't believe I'm actually agreeing with the dude.

All the people who told me he must have let that idiot borrow the melody need to apologize to me, I was RIGHT.

I still don't see why Prince couldn't just make an official youtube page, whack all his videos on there, then still take off the unofficial ones?
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Reply #243 posted 09/28/08 5:11am

prime

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purplesweat said:

Cyberspace "is a black hole to me," he says. "YouTube is the hippest network, and they abuse copyright right and left. You see a song like Purple Rain turned into Pure Cocaine; what should my response be? I chase the money to find out who's behind it. It's a matter of principle. I don't want my music bastardized."


Heh, can't believe I'm actually agreeing with the dude.

All the people who told me he must have let that idiot borrow the melody need to apologize to me, I was RIGHT.

I still don't see why Prince couldn't just make an official youtube page, whack all his videos on there, then still take off the unofficial ones?



so did he let lil' wayne use Diamonds and Pearls?
Prime aka The Kid

"I need u to dance, I need u to strip
I need u to shake Ur lil' ass n hips
I need u to grind like Ur working for tips
And give me what I need while we listen to PRINCE"
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Reply #244 posted 09/28/08 5:19am

Shawnt25

prime said:




so did he let lil' wayne use Diamonds and Pearls?



If Prince does not own the masters to Diamonds and Pearls, then Lil Wayne would not even have to ask for Prince's permission to sample the song. They just have to pay a fee to Warner Bros. But who knows? Maybe he did.
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Reply #245 posted 09/28/08 5:57am

Dsoul

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Imagine how "bastardised" his edited pre-2000 output would be on this fabled TV channel? eek
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Reply #246 posted 09/28/08 6:09am

LoyalAndTrue

he's eyeing another big-city residency.

sounds exciting. i wonder where it will be, i would like to go.
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Reply #247 posted 09/28/08 6:39am

jdcxc

PurpleCharm said:

jdcxc said:




I agree that Prince is not moving mountains of public opinion these days but anyone with a podium effects the balance to some degree. Even if it is miniscule. Are you telling me that there have been zero new JW converts since P joined? Just fathom, a measly 600 people's lack of political participation (in a country of 280 mil) put GWB in the White house!

What positive contribution to the marketplace of ideas does his comment make? The idea of "not voting" is defenseless and you have no idea what direct or indirect influence irresponsible statements have on people.

And you need to tell Madison Avenue, both political parties and multi-media corporations about your theory on the lack of influence by celebrities. It's the "dumbing down" of America. It's the only reason the USA Today exists. The public will learn more about Palin in People magazine than CNN.


What if Prince said that he was voting for McCain? Would you have a problem with that?


Ah, yea. You're joking right.
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Reply #248 posted 09/28/08 7:39am

prodigalfan

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lottielooloo1968 said:

prodigalfan said:



I am shocked at how unflattering some pics are of the twinz. Dang! I would have had a fit to have this one published.

eek


u have 2 be kidding? this is such a lovely pic.. it might be my favourite cool


the twin to the right profile is not a good angle for her. Her nose is very long almost hook nose, and her teeth are I don't know, too big??

I have seen other pics where they look beautiful, others where the make up is freakin scary. I always thought it was just bad make up, but now I see that from some angles it is their features that look harsh or gauwky.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #249 posted 09/28/08 7:51am

prodigalfan

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laurarichardson said:

Meloh9 said:

in what way did P burn bridges with Univeral and Sony? I'm out of the loop, last I knew Sony seamed pleased with him

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The rumor is that he would not go out and promote 3121 they why they wanted him too and he started arguing with the label. The end result was Universal walking away from him and dropping Tamar.

He than gave the Planet Earth CD away in the newspaper after Sony fired his manager/lawyer. The label wanted to promote and sell the CD via the stores not have it given away in a newspaper.

Let's be honest we only have a few major record labels and I think they are pretty much done with P. He will have to find alternative means to distribute his music. Which is cool since records labels are struggling and are not going to be pressed to keep a 50 something year-old artist around whose master tape they do not even own.


wow, I didn't know all of this about universal and sony. So that is why Tamar's CD was not released. Dang! too bad for her.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #250 posted 09/28/08 7:54am

PurpleCharm

jdcxc said:

PurpleCharm said:



What if Prince said that he was voting for McCain? Would you have a problem with that?


Ah, yea. You're joking right.



No. I am not.

On the surface it seems your beef is with Prince not voting and expressing in a national publication that he doesn't vote, but I gather from your post that if Prince did vote you would expect for him to vote for Obama because he's black. So, it's really not JUST about Prince not voting is it? Seems you also want to dictate WHO he should be expected to vote for.
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Reply #251 posted 09/28/08 7:56am

estelle81

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bellanoche said:

I usually don't respond to posts as ignorant as this, but I felt compelled to this time. Martin Luther King Jr. fought for the right for ALL citizens in this country to have equal rights, to be treated fairly as human beings with dignity and respect. He died because some idiot assasinated him. He didn't die for anyone to have the right to vote. Don't diminish/reduce his struggle to "the right to vote."

Having the right to vote means that someone has the OPTION to vote or not to vote. That is the right that ALL citizens should have. It does not mean that they have to go out and vote, especially if it conflicts with their spiritual beliefs. The right to CHOOSE is the issue. When black people did not have the right to vote it meant that we did not have a choice. Prince, and the rest of us black folk now have the right to CHOOSE whether we want to take part in the voting process or not. Exercising one's right not to vote is as much about freedom as exercising the right to vote. It is not grounds to kick someone out of a country. That's a very ignorant proposition. Shouldn't people have the equal right to have views that are different from yours or even the majority for that matter?



clapping


Honestly, the fact that I've met soo many women who would rather just find a rich man, get married, and not work bothers me waay more than people who choose not to vote. The fact that there are women who get pregnant and would rather live off the system (ie. my taxes) than get a job and support their child themselves disgusts me even more. There are tons of women who fought for the right to be employed in the same jobs that men have just as much as they fought for the right to vote. All people really wanted was to be treated as equals which was the main basis behind all those rallies to obtain rights. To have met soo many girls who would rather have their husbands or the government 'take care' of them instead of them going out and bringing in their own income to support their family, disturbs and angers me more than those not wanting to go out and vote. I would much rather people go out and practice their right to equal employment instead of standing on corners with cardboard signs begging me for spare change.

Like I stated in a previous post, the Electoral college vote is the determining vote in who becomes President. I've never understood why people seem to think that the President is the one who makes all the decisions...he's not, Congress can veto anything he puts on the table. He has to get approval from Congress on any new laws or decisions he comes up with, so no matter how many good speeches either of these two candidates spew off, they still have to present them to Congress and the House has to agree to make them official after everything is all said and done. That's why Congress exists. Some people only vote for the President and that's it. If you aren't voting for members of Congress, than why yell at someone who chooses not to vote in the Presidential election? If eccentric voters are going to yell at people for not practicing their right to vote, than I expect those individiuals to vote in every single election that presents itself.

If Prince doesn't want to vote because it's against his religion than that's his right as an American citizen. Anyone who goes off of a celebrity's decisions obviously has not yet learned how to really think for themselves, so I feel sorry for them if they need a famous person to tell them what to do. My roommate is a JW and she doesn't vote nor will she do jury duty because it goes against her beliefs. If she wasn't a JW and still chose not to vote, than that's her choice and to an extent I don't disagree with her. Living in Florida, one of the states that is being hit the hardest by the state of the economy, has made me feel sorry for whoever wins, because they have to try and fix the mess that the idiot in office now is going to leave behind as he returns to his riches.

Whoever wins most likely isn't going to fix the problems in just one term regardless of how many people may think he can. Sorry, but the President of the United States is not Superman. He can put a dent in it, but if he doesn't choose to run in the next election and another 'W' gets elected President, than what? Sorry, but I stopped living a lie along time ago. What voters need to be doing is crossing their fingers and hoping that the Electoral College vote puts the right candidate into office or if the college vote ends in a tie, so that their votes are pushed into play. If someone doesn't want to vote, than they shouldn't be crucified for their decision. They have the right to think for themselves and that's a God-given right that no government can take away for you. Just my twocents
Prince Rogers Nelson
Sunrise: June 7, 1958
Sunset: April 21, 2016
~My Heart Loudly Weeps

"My Creativity Is My Life." ~ Prince

Life is merely a dress rehearsal for eternity.
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Reply #252 posted 09/28/08 8:06am

JustErin

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Yuck.

Just yuck.
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Reply #253 posted 09/28/08 8:16am

Shawnt25

JustErin said:

Yuck.

Just yuck.


lol What don't you like about the article?
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Reply #254 posted 09/28/08 8:42am

jdcxc

PurpleCharm said:

jdcxc said:



Ah, yea. You're joking right.



No. I am not.

On the surface it seems your beef is with Prince not voting and expressing in a national publication that he doesn't vote, but I gather from your post that if Prince did vote you would expect for him to vote for Obama because he's black. So, it's really not JUST about Prince not voting is it? Seems you also want to dictate WHO he should be expected to vote for.
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No, my beef is purely with Prince not voting. Obviously, he can do whatever he wants and support whomever he chooses. Yes, I am an Obama supporter. This is really off topic, but I could debate the virtues of Obama V. McCain if you would like.

Being a huge Prince fan and following his career since 1980, I have always identified his worldview as definately opposed to the conservative, right-wing politics of the Republican party. Of course, I would love it if P did a Springsteen and dedicated himself to the Obama cause. This is a historical and revolutionary election and it would be great if P was part of it- at least voting in it and not highlighting the fact that he has no intention to. And by not voting, you are endorsing the status quo. The success of the conservative agenda is dependant on the public's apathy toward the political process.

No one has commented on his utter hyprocrisy. How can he attack corporate greed, trumpet artists rights, glorify MLK while at the same time, highlight his belief in sitting out of the electoral process? It points to pure selfishness. "I'm mad that my money isn't right and screw everybody else." Does he believe in structural changes or just his personal checkbook?
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Reply #255 posted 09/28/08 8:47am

PaisleyRose

Wow!!! cool I feel all tingly inside. wink
PaisleyRose was here rose
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Reply #256 posted 09/28/08 9:13am

jdcxc

estelle81 said:

bellanoche said:

I usually don't respond to posts as ignorant as this, but I felt compelled to this time. Martin Luther King Jr. fought for the right for ALL citizens in this country to have equal rights, to be treated fairly as human beings with dignity and respect. He died because some idiot assasinated him. He didn't die for anyone to have the right to vote. Don't diminish/reduce his struggle to "the right to vote."

Having the right to vote means that someone has the OPTION to vote or not to vote. That is the right that ALL citizens should have. It does not mean that they have to go out and vote, especially if it conflicts with their spiritual beliefs. The right to CHOOSE is the issue. When black people did not have the right to vote it meant that we did not have a choice. Prince, and the rest of us black folk now have the right to CHOOSE whether we want to take part in the voting process or not. Exercising one's right not to vote is as much about freedom as exercising the right to vote. It is not grounds to kick someone out of a country. That's a very ignorant proposition. Shouldn't people have the equal right to have views that are different from yours or even the majority for that matter?



clapping


Honestly, the fact that I've met soo many women who would rather just find a rich man, get married, and not work bothers me waay more than people who choose not to vote. The fact that there are women who get pregnant and would rather live off the system (ie. my taxes) than get a job and support their child themselves disgusts me even more. There are tons of women who fought for the right to be employed in the same jobs that men have just as much as they fought for the right to vote. All people really wanted was to be treated as equals which was the main basis behind all those rallies to obtain rights. To have met soo many girls who would rather have their husbands or the government 'take care' of them instead of them going out and bringing in their own income to support their family, disturbs and angers me more than those not wanting to go out and vote. I would much rather people go out and practice their right to equal employment instead of standing on corners with cardboard signs begging me for spare change.

Like I stated in a previous post, the Electoral college vote is the determining vote in who becomes President. I've never understood why people seem to think that the President is the one who makes all the decisions...he's not, Congress can veto anything he puts on the table. He has to get approval from Congress on any new laws or decisions he comes up with, so no matter how many good speeches either of these two candidates spew off, they still have to present them to Congress and the House has to agree to make them official after everything is all said and done. That's why Congress exists. Some people only vote for the President and that's it. If you aren't voting for members of Congress, than why yell at someone who chooses not to vote in the Presidential election? If eccentric voters are going to yell at people for not practicing their right to vote, than I expect those individiuals to vote in every single election that presents itself.

If Prince doesn't want to vote because it's against his religion than that's his right as an American citizen. Anyone who goes off of a celebrity's decisions obviously has not yet learned how to really think for themselves, so I feel sorry for them if they need a famous person to tell them what to do. My roommate is a JW and she doesn't vote nor will she do jury duty because it goes against her beliefs. If she wasn't a JW and still chose not to vote, than that's her choice and to an extent I don't disagree with her. Living in Florida, one of the states that is being hit the hardest by the state of the economy, has made me feel sorry for whoever wins, because they have to try and fix the mess that the idiot in office now is going to leave behind as he returns to his riches.

Whoever wins most likely isn't going to fix the problems in just one term regardless of how many people may think he can. Sorry, but the President of the United States is not Superman. He can put a dent in it, but if he doesn't choose to run in the next election and another 'W' gets elected President, than what? Sorry, but I stopped living a lie along time ago. What voters need to be doing is crossing their fingers and hoping that the Electoral College vote puts the right candidate into office or if the college vote ends in a tie, so that their votes are pushed into play. If someone doesn't want to vote, than they shouldn't be crucified for their decision. They have the right to think for themselves and that's a God-given right that no government can take away for you. Just my twocents




So, your bottom line is that the president has no power, Congress has all the authority and is isolated from the electorate, elections don't matter and women are the root of all evil. Interesting. I can see who P was speaking to when he talked about not voting.
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Reply #257 posted 09/28/08 9:22am

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I know P made a statement about not voting but is it me or this whole thing is getting way off topic. What does all of this personal political ranting have to do with 21 nights?
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Reply #258 posted 09/28/08 9:42am

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myfavorite said:

Now prince ought to know by now that I am the only "right One"

..baby, I'm so right for you, I know how to let you go.....I don't mind a bait and switch.

Prince: whatcha mean...???

I am everything you sing about dude.

Prince: huh??

You gotta girlfriend

Prince: yeah, I gotta girlfriend.

Then handle ya business.....see ya.






Butcha gota meet meeeee...me, only me guy. you'll see. see ya soon. evillol



LOLOL I had to read this two times.

When is the next page of this script coming out?

Here let me help you, cuz this is too good cuzzin to stop right now...

Prince: yeah, "I gotta girlfriend"...

GOD says: "Ya sure?"

Prince says: "hold up... let me think on it."

You say: "Hey GOD, can I have just one date?"

GOD says: "hmmmm, lets wait a while and see, if you can handle the truth."

Prince says: "whew, what a dream..." and goes to sip some freakn kombucha tea.


End of chapter, you can continue...psst, NO HARM DONE - JUST HAVIN FUN!

(kombucha) a tea 5,000 years young and great for your body - learn bouts it... cuz it's my favorite flava of life; that is - other than LOVE. Suggestion: Synergistic (synergy) tea...

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BLOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR...CAN YOU DANCE? CUZN I KNOW I CAN.
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Reply #259 posted 09/28/08 9:45am

jdcxc

Has anyone heard the '21' CD?
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Reply #260 posted 09/28/08 9:51am

wonder505

jdcxc said:

PurpleCharm said:




No. I am not.

On the surface it seems your beef is with Prince not voting and expressing in a national publication that he doesn't vote, but I gather from your post that if Prince did vote you would expect for him to vote for Obama because he's black. So, it's really not JUST about Prince not voting is it? Seems you also want to dictate WHO he should be expected to vote for.
[Edited 9/28/08 7:56am]


No, my beef is purely with Prince not voting. Obviously, he can do whatever he wants and support whomever he chooses. Yes, I am an Obama supporter. This is really off topic, but I could debate the virtues of Obama V. McCain if you would like.

Being a huge Prince fan and following his career since 1980, I have always identified his worldview as definately opposed to the conservative, right-wing politics of the Republican party. Of course, I would love it if P did a Springsteen and dedicated himself to the Obama cause. This is a historical and revolutionary election and it would be great if P was part of it- at least voting in it and not highlighting the fact that he has no intention to. And by not voting, you are endorsing the status quo. The success of the conservative agenda is dependant on the public's apathy toward the political process.

No one has commented on his utter hyprocrisy. How can he attack corporate greed, trumpet artists rights, glorify MLK while at the same time, highlight his belief in sitting out of the electoral process? It points to pure selfishness. "I'm mad that my money isn't right and screw everybody else." Does he believe in structural changes or just his personal checkbook?


you are making gigantic assumptions based on three words uttered in a newspaper article.you don't even know what his reasonings or rationalizations are. i agree, considering the historic nature of this election, he should have kept his mouth shut, but in terms of not voting, as stupid as i believe that thinking is, (and i do believe on the surface its stupid) it is his choice, based on religious beliefs that obviously you and i don't agree with. perhaps in his thinking he believes, like many, that MLK fought for the power of choice. because of the struggles of the past, people have the right to choose what is right for them. i would like to engage in a debate with Prince or any JW to understand where they come from, but in terms of Prince i don't really care that much, i'm a fan of his music and live performances and don't get all that involved emotionally with him other than that.
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Reply #261 posted 09/28/08 9:56am

PurpleCharm

jdcxc said:

PurpleCharm said:




No. I am not.

On the surface it seems your beef is with Prince not voting and expressing in a national publication that he doesn't vote, but I gather from your post that if Prince did vote you would expect for him to vote for Obama because he's black. So, it's really not JUST about Prince not voting is it? Seems you also want to dictate WHO he should be expected to vote for.
[Edited 9/28/08 7:56am]


No, my beef is purely with Prince not voting. Obviously, he can do whatever he wants and support whomever he chooses. Yes, I am an Obama supporter. This is really off topic, but I could debate the virtues of Obama V. McCain if you would like.

Being a huge Prince fan and following his career since 1980, I have always identified his worldview as definately opposed to the conservative, right-wing politics of the Republican party. Of course, I would love it if P did a Springsteen and dedicated himself to the Obama cause. This is a historical and revolutionary election and it would be great if P was part of it- at least voting in it and not highlighting the fact that he has no intention to. And by not voting, you are endorsing the status quo. The success of the conservative agenda is dependant on the public's apathy toward the political process.

No one has commented on his utter hyprocrisy. How can he attack corporate greed, trumpet artists rights, glorify MLK while at the same time, highlight his belief in sitting out of the electoral process? It points to pure selfishness. "I'm mad that my money isn't right and screw everybody else." Does he believe in structural changes or just his personal checkbook?



I don't need to be schooled in the so-called virtues of Obama vs McCain. That was not even the purpose of my post.

And if you have been a fan of Prince since 1980, you would know that he is a walking contradiction...totally not understanding why you are acting all brand new about his "hypocrisy".
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Reply #262 posted 09/28/08 10:02am

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bellanoche said:

I usually don't respond to posts as ignorant as this, but I felt compelled to this time. Martin Luther King Jr. fought for the right for ALL citizens in this country to have equal rights, to be treated fairly as human beings with dignity and respect. He died because some idiot assasinated him. He didn't die for anyone to have the right to vote. Don't diminish/reduce his struggle to "the right to vote."

Having the right to vote means that someone has the OPTION to vote or not to vote. That is the right that ALL citizens should have. It does not mean that they have to go out and vote, especially if it conflicts with their spiritual beliefs. The right to CHOOSE is the issue. When black people did not have the right to vote it meant that we did not have a choice. Prince, and the rest of us black folk now have the right to CHOOSE whether we want to take part in the voting process or not. Exercising one's right not to vote is as much about freedom as exercising the right to vote. It is not grounds to kick someone out of a country. That's a very ignorant proposition. Shouldn't people have the equal right to have views that are different from yours or even the majority for that matter?


Don't vote. Fine. That's your choice. But then don't complain when things go your way or if you don't agree with the direction of the country you live in. You pass on the right to vote, you pass on the right to complain about the results. Prince's lame attempts to be political in songs like Cinnamon Girl or Money Don't Matter Tonight mean even less when he makes ignorant statements like that. There's the right whether to vote or not & there's the obligation to participate in a democratic society. If you choose not to participate when given the opportunity to do so, it's your loss.
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Reply #263 posted 09/28/08 10:03am

jdcxc

PurpleCharm said:

jdcxc said:



No, my beef is purely with Prince not voting. Obviously, he can do whatever he wants and support whomever he chooses. Yes, I am an Obama supporter. This is really off topic, but I could debate the virtues of Obama V. McCain if you would like.

Being a huge Prince fan and following his career since 1980, I have always identified his worldview as definately opposed to the conservative, right-wing politics of the Republican party. Of course, I would love it if P did a Springsteen and dedicated himself to the Obama cause. This is a historical and revolutionary election and it would be great if P was part of it- at least voting in it and not highlighting the fact that he has no intention to. And by not voting, you are endorsing the status quo. The success of the conservative agenda is dependant on the public's apathy toward the political process.

No one has commented on his utter hyprocrisy. How can he attack corporate greed, trumpet artists rights, glorify MLK while at the same time, highlight his belief in sitting out of the electoral process? It points to pure selfishness. "I'm mad that my money isn't right and screw everybody else." Does he believe in structural changes or just his personal checkbook?



I don't need to be schooled in the so-called virtues of Obama vs McCain. That was not even the purpose of my post.

And if you have been a fan of Prince since 1980, you would know that he is a walking contradiction...totally not understanding why you are acting all brand new about his "hypocrisy".


Contradictions are one thing, but to espouse "not voting" on the eve of the most important election in our history is another.
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Reply #264 posted 09/28/08 10:10am

wonder505

viewaskew said:

bellanoche said:

I usually don't respond to posts as ignorant as this, but I felt compelled to this time. Martin Luther King Jr. fought for the right for ALL citizens in this country to have equal rights, to be treated fairly as human beings with dignity and respect. He died because some idiot assasinated him. He didn't die for anyone to have the right to vote. Don't diminish/reduce his struggle to "the right to vote."

Having the right to vote means that someone has the OPTION to vote or not to vote. That is the right that ALL citizens should have. It does not mean that they have to go out and vote, especially if it conflicts with their spiritual beliefs. The right to CHOOSE is the issue. When black people did not have the right to vote it meant that we did not have a choice. Prince, and the rest of us black folk now have the right to CHOOSE whether we want to take part in the voting process or not. Exercising one's right not to vote is as much about freedom as exercising the right to vote. It is not grounds to kick someone out of a country. That's a very ignorant proposition. Shouldn't people have the equal right to have views that are different from yours or even the majority for that matter?


Don't vote. Fine. That's your choice. But then don't complain when things go your way or if you don't agree with the direction of the country you live in. You pass on the right to vote, you pass on the right to complain about the results. Prince's lame attempts to be political in songs like Cinnamon Girl or Money Don't Matter Tonight mean even less when he makes ignorant statements like that. There's the right whether to vote or not & there's the obligation to participate in a democratic society. If you choose not to participate when given the opportunity to do so, it's your loss.


hmmm, i wonder how Prince or anyone who choose not to vote would answer to this point?
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Reply #265 posted 09/28/08 10:13am

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bellanoche said:

I usually don't respond to posts as ignorant as this, but I felt compelled to this time. Martin Luther King Jr. fought for the right for ALL citizens in this country to have equal rights, to be treated fairly as human beings with dignity and respect. He died because some idiot assasinated him. He didn't die for anyone to have the right to vote. Don't diminish/reduce his struggle to "the right to vote."

Having the right to vote means that someone has the OPTION to vote or not to vote. That is the right that ALL citizens should have. It does not mean that they have to go out and vote, especially if it conflicts with their spiritual beliefs. The right to CHOOSE is the issue. When black people did not have the right to vote it meant that we did not have a choice. Prince, and the rest of us black folk now have the right to CHOOSE whether we want to take part in the voting process or not. Exercising one's right not to vote is as much about freedom as exercising the right to vote. It is not grounds to kick someone out of a country. That's a very ignorant proposition. Shouldn't people have the equal right to have views that are different from yours or even the majority for that matter?


Don't vote. Fine. That's your choice. But then don't complain when things go your way or if you don't agree with the direction of the country you live in. You pass on the right to vote, you pass on the right to complain about the results. Prince's lame attempts to be political in songs like Cinnamon Girl or Money Don't Matter Tonight mean even less when he makes ignorant statements like that. There's the right whether to vote or not & there's the obligation to participate in a democratic society. If you choose not to participate when given the opportunity to do so, it's your loss.


Exactly, thanks for the help.
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Reply #266 posted 09/28/08 10:14am

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PurpleCharm said:




I don't need to be schooled in the so-called virtues of Obama vs McCain. That was not even the purpose of my post.

And if you have been a fan of Prince since 1980, you would know that he is a walking contradiction...totally not understanding why you are acting all brand new about his "hypocrisy".


Contradictions are one thing, but to espouse "not voting" on the eve of the most important election in our history is another.


you really think Prince is telling people not to vote in November? you really believe he wants us to all sit home?
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Reply #267 posted 09/28/08 10:22am

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woot! This is an exciting article...Prince is celibate and doing the teasing with new music. Hopefully this will be out soon, like Oct/Nov when new albums usually drop.

hmmm Interesting... he views the internet as a black hole...wondered why his web presence halted..I figured he was doing something purposefully different (as usual) from the rest of society and artists or perhaps not wanting to be viewed as an idol which gelled with other comments he's made (of course throwing parties for hollywood strokes doesn't match up either, but sounds like it's for his own networking purposes for distribution) ...sounds like he sees limits on the net for his use right now.

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Reply #268 posted 09/28/08 10:33am

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wonder505 said:

jdcxc said:



Contradictions are one thing, but to espouse "not voting" on the eve of the most important election in our history is another.


you really think Prince is telling people not to vote in November? you really believe he wants us to all sit home?


Of course he is. Unless you don't believe his words. He belongs to a group that does not participate in any elections. Part of that religion's dogma is the conversation of people with a missionary zeal into their belief system. Why do you think they go door-to-door handing out the Watchtower? The more people converted to their beliefs will obviously result in proportionately less people taking part in electoral politics.

Just imagine the outcry if Oprah got on her talk show and stated she was not going to vote in the upcoming election.
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Reply #269 posted 09/28/08 10:40am

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jdcxc said:

wonder505 said:



you really think Prince is telling people not to vote in November? you really believe he wants us to all sit home?


Of course he is. Unless you don't believe his words. He belongs to a group that does not participate in any elections. Part of that religion's dogma is the conversation of people with a missionary zeal into their belief system. Why do you think they go door-to-door handing out the Watchtower? The more people converted to their beliefs will obviously result in proportionately less people taking part in electoral politics.

Just imagine the outcry if Oprah got on her talk show and stated she was not going to vote in the upcoming election.


we'll have to disagree on your assumption. i think he was just expressing his choice of not voting and shedding light on his current lifestyle. he could have elaborated more about it if he really wanted us to not vote this election but he didn't.
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