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Reply #90 posted 09/26/08 11:39am

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"Cyberspace "is a black hole to me," he says. "YouTube is the hippest network, and they abuse copyright right and left. You see a song like Purple Rain turned into Pure Cocaine; what should my response be? I chase the money to find out who's behind it. It's a matter of principle. I don't want my music bastardized."

So he didn't ok the use of the Purple Rain sample for that awful rap song like so many here swore that he did.

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Reply #91 posted 09/26/08 11:41am

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He's turned down multiple book offers, "but now we have to look at every form of distribution," says Prince, who's exploring a TV channel start-up to unleash his massive video archives.


hmm.

http://drfunkenberry.word...s-weekend/

Quotes: the most creative man in music has enough videos of himself & his royal court to fill 77 hours without showing the same video twice.

perhaps playing some videos that have never seen the light of day. Sound good to you? It sure sounds good to us. You may not be able to give the people what they want, but we sure would like to give them what they need. Can YOU hear me? Good.


Veeeeery Inneresing. wink
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Thing is though, most of his videos are a bit on the cheap side. Im not surprised they never saw the light of day.
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Reply #92 posted 09/26/08 11:55am

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"I did the Dirty Mind tour and pushed that envelope off the table. What I didn't do, Madonna finished. I don't want to go back. You have to get out of your own way."

I gotta disagree with him here. I've always thought Prince pushed the envelope way farther than Madonna ever has--and long before she hit the scene. I've never understood why Madonna seems to get more recognition for things--such as having racy lyrics and stage shows and constantly reinventing her look and persona--when Prince has done the same thing, first and better.

I remember watching a show on VH-1 about sex in music, and they were talking about how bold Madonna was for using the word "virgin" in a song title. But "Like a Virgin" is tame compared to songs like "Head" and "Jack U Off".
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Reply #93 posted 09/26/08 12:08pm

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He's turned down multiple book offers, "but now we have to look at every form of distribution," says Prince, who's exploring a TV channel start-up to unleash his massive video archives.

"I don't want my music bastardized."


I don't know how many times I've said there must be a bigger picture .. cool
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Reply #94 posted 09/26/08 12:29pm

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So we hear from the horses mouth himself: "being a Jehovah's Witness, I don't celebrate birthdays or holidays. I don't vote."


Still a JW, Well, Well!!! eek
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Reply #95 posted 09/26/08 12:31pm

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serpan99 said:

Prince shows off a different side for '21 Nights'

http://www.usatoday.com/l...htm?csp=34

By Edna Gundersen, USA TODAY

BEVERLY HILLS — Downstairs in a dimly lighted screening room crowded with sofas, Prince leafs through the first authorized book of his career.

"I wanted to document something that was never done before," he says, pausing at a photo of himself immersed in fog onstage. "I don't expect that record to be broken unless I break it."

Just over a year ago, he performed an unprecedented 21 sell-outs in London's 24,000-seat O2 arena, the year's highest-grossing engagement at $22 million.

The residency is chronicled in 21 Nights (Atria Books, $50), a coffee-table tome of Prince's lyrics and poetry and 124 previously unreleased photographs by Randee St. Nicholas, who shadowed His Purple Highness onstage, backstage, on the streets and in his hotel suite at The Dorchester.

Billed as an inner-sanctum invitation, 21 Nights, in stores next week, is hardly a slide show of an unshowered Prince watching pay-per-view in sneakers and beer-stained T-shirts. The style never stops as Prince, his band and his leggy twin dancers are snapped sporting impeccable designer garb in GQ-ready spreads. The shoots were "casual and spontaneous," he says, "but everyone had to be dressed up."

He writes in the book:

Eye'd rather dress 2 make a woman stare

Eye'm puttin' on somethin' that another won't dare

It's a freezer burn compared 2 cool

The Vogue Italia persona is no pose, says Nicholas, director of 150 music videos, the first being Prince's Gett Off in 1991.

"It may be glamorous to others, but that's his comfort zone," she says. "It's not like he changes to go out and be Prince. The guy looks amazing 24 hours a day."

When Prince suggested collaborating on a book, she proposed a fashion-centric chronicle of his London run.

"I knew I'd have him in one city, so he'd show up for photo shoots; he's a very elusive guy," says St. Nicholas, who has photographed music icons Bob Dylan, Diana Ross and Whitney Houston, as well as such Hollywood luminaries as Charlize Theron and Tom Cruise.

Because she shot primarily after hours, "there's a certain mood of isolation," she says. "You get a very intimate look at him by himself. His mystery is not something he works at. It's who he is."


Change of religion, life

Tonight, that mood of isolation permeates Prince's luxurious 30,000-square-foot Tuscan-style villa, perched high in a gated Beverly Hills enclave. The royal one, clad in a filmy white sweater over a black shirt and slacks with (shocker!) flip-flops, lives solo in the nine-bedroom home, where a cook is upstairs preparing food for a post-midnight gathering with friends and bandmates.

"I'm single, celibate and sexy," he says with a laugh. "I feel free."

After being introduced to Jehovah's Witnesses by friend and bass player Larry Graham, Prince converted in 2001. The onetime voracious womanizer who crooned Scandalous, Do It All Night, Sexy MF and Dirty Mind has purged his lyrics of naughty lingo and spends more time proselytizing than partying.

He's as likely to show up on a neighbor's doorstep with a Watchtower Bible as he is to frequent a hot club.

"Sometimes fans freak out," he says of his missionary encounters. "It might be a shock to see me, but that's no reason for people to act crazy, and it doesn't give them license to chase me down the street."

He turned 50 on June 7, but "being a Jehovah's Witness, I don't celebrate birthdays or holidays. I don't vote."

Reviewing a video of the sultry Te Amo Corazon, he points out his limited physical contact with co-star Mía Maestro of The Motorcycle Diaries. "That's another way faith has changed me," he says.

Screening the sensual Somewhere Here on Earth video, Prince admires another shapely love interest and says, "Back in the day, a woman that fine, I would have written some scenes together. But you can't get sexier than this. You sense it in the air."

Prince feels little connection to such past lightning rods as Do Me, Baby and Darling Nikki, which triggered Tipper Gore's warning-label crusade.

"I did the Dirty Mind tour and pushed that envelope off the table. What I didn't do, Madonna finished. I don't want to go back. You have to get out of your own way."

Music remains a passion. Not just a book, 21 Nights is a delivery system for Indigo Nights, a CD tucked inside. The 15 tracks, culled from post-concert club jams, include Delirious, Alphabet Street, covers of Whole Lotta Love and Rock Steady and two songs spotlighting protégé Shelby J.

He's turned down multiple book offers, "but now we have to look at every form of distribution," says Prince, who's exploring a TV channel start-up to unleash his massive video archives.

He's regarded as a maverick for fleeing the label system in favor of innovative distribution. In 2004, he bundled his Musicology album with concert tickets, grossing $85.3 million for 94 sold-out shows. Last year, he struck a deal with U.K. national newspaper The Mail, which included Planet Earth in its July 15 edition, leading Sony to cancel the album's British release.

"We weren't trying to upstage the record company," Prince says. "I just wanted to get new music out. I asked Sony, 'Were you planning to sell 3 million copies in London?' I sold 3 million copies overnight. That's a good, clear business deal."

A '90s contract dispute with Warner Bros. left Prince deeply distrustful of the industry. Today, he acts as his own manager and lawyer. Before last year's O2 residency, he negotiated before agreeing to perform under the arena's product signage.

"I looked at those ads and thought, hmm, Viacom, that's $1 million," he says. "There are all kinds of possible deals artists aren't privy to.

"I love to bring the Bible to the table. I ask if they believe in God, then: 'What kind of business do you want to conduct: transparent or hide the ball?' I'll do tours and albums if the deal is clean."

He'd consider an exclusive pact with a big-box retailer such as Wal-Mart or Target, and he's eyeing another big-city residency. A major label deal? Doubtful.

"Behind closed doors, they'll tell you it's over," he says. Record companies can't profit unless they retain ownership of artists' work, "and that's why labels are in a bad situation. People with content are going to win."

And yet Prince is sitting on loads of content in search of a platform. After blazing a trail online as an independent distributor, he grew disenchanted with the Internet and in 2006 shut down his 5-year-old New Power Generation Music Club. No official Prince sites remain (3121. com consists of a blank screen). Posting Prince content draws cease-and-desist orders.

Cyberspace "is a black hole to me," he says. "YouTube is the hippest network, and they abuse copyright right and left. You see a song like Purple Rain turned into Pure Cocaine; what should my response be? I chase the money to find out who's behind it. It's a matter of principle. I don't want my music bastardized."

He's not impressed by iTunes' terms or sales projections ("They give you a figure that's embarrassing"). While frustrated, Prince resists pessimism.

"I learned from Jehovah's Witnesses that a fatalistic view is counterproductive," he says. "An agent I was talking to earlier today had this viewpoint that someone has to win and someone has to lose. Nobody who thinks like that gets very far. Look at Frazier and Ali. Both of them got something out of that fight. I understand competition, but not the kind where someone has to die or be disenfranchised."


Passion 'all goes into music'

After visiting his library to read Scripture and weigh in on intelligent design, Prince strolls to his bedroom to share tunes that will be released when he determines a distribution route.

"When are we going to get back to the poetry of Smokey Robinson and Bob Dylan?" he says, sitting on the edge of a round bed under a heart-shaped mirror. His stereo includes the turntable his father gave him as a toddler. He learned to play guitar spinning LPs on it.

Right now, he's cranking newly crafted funk-pop-psychedelic wonders Boom, Forever and Dreamer, an ode to Martin Luther King Jr. inspired by discussions with Dick Gregory. He declines to play The Divine, a song so "mind-blowing" he doubts he'll ever release it. "The minute the harmonies hit, I put it away," he says.

On a love song, his voice takes on yearning as he pines for the feel of a lover's lips and the move of her hips. "That's what happens with years of celibacy," says Prince, survivor of two broken marriages. "It all goes into the music." He pauses. "This time, it has to be the right person."

For now, songs offer sufficient companionship. "Music to me is a life force," he says. "It's not what I do. It's what I am."

Photo's by Randee St. Nicholas, Atria Books
arrow www.randeestnicholas.com
















cool
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3 cool,
cant wait 4 the new funk.
peace n love yall,
WOLFY razz
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Reply #96 posted 09/26/08 12:40pm

Paisleyprk

Am I reading this correctly. . . did they say something about. . . for lack of a better term. . PRINCE TV!!!!!
OMG. . I'll never leave the house!
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Reply #97 posted 09/26/08 12:47pm

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PicassoFace said:

"I did the Dirty Mind tour and pushed that envelope off the table. What I didn't do, Madonna finished. I don't want to go back. You have to get out of your own way."

I gotta disagree with him here. I've always thought Prince pushed the envelope way farther than Madonna ever has--and long before she hit the scene. I've never understood why Madonna seems to get more recognition for things--such as having racy lyrics and stage shows and constantly reinventing her look and persona--when Prince has done the same thing, first and better.

I remember watching a show on VH-1 about sex in music, and they were talking about how bold Madonna was for using the word "virgin" in a song title. But "Like a Virgin" is tame compared to songs like "Head" and "Jack U Off".
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SO TRUE...
However b/c Madonna is a woman and because she came out with the SEX book and has played a stripper and dominatrix in her video and had that tour documentary, folks got bamboozled into thinking she's this musical sexual Maverick when all she's done has been done by others and more bluntly IMO. I guess Prince pushed the envelope off the table and Madonna picked it up and licked it. lick
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Reply #98 posted 09/26/08 12:51pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

"Cyberspace "is a black hole to me," he says. "YouTube is the hippest network, and they abuse copyright right and left. You see a song like Purple Rain turned into Pure Cocaine; what should my response be? I chase the money to find out who's behind it. It's a matter of principle. I don't want my music bastardized."

So he didn't ok the use of the Purple Rain sample for that awful rap song like so many here swore that he did.

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[Edited 9/26/08 11:41am]

Of course he did NOT authorize that non-sense.
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Reply #99 posted 09/26/08 1:03pm

Rakel

Now I'm speechless
kiss
sexy sexy sexy mzsexyrakel
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Reply #100 posted 09/26/08 1:04pm

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definitely one of the coolest human beings alive
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Reply #101 posted 09/26/08 1:19pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

Anxiety said:



well, the book's a done deal. the production is done on it, so all he has left to do now is collect the money from sales. i'm sure he'll do a few parties and whatnot, but i don't think he's going to promote this book the way he does his albums. i wouldn't be surprised if he's way into his next album project right now and has figured out his next insane genius distribution plan...


it's going 2 b interesting 2 c who will distribute it since he's burned the bridges 2 universal and sony

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I think he might be looking at Best Buy or Target. A lot of artist are doing this now.
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Reply #102 posted 09/26/08 1:21pm

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in what way did P burn bridges with Univeral and Sony? I'm out of the loop, last I knew Sony seamed pleased with him
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Reply #103 posted 09/26/08 1:23pm

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Amazing article beautiful pictures
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Reply #104 posted 09/26/08 1:36pm

jodi081630

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Ion said:

Definitely sounds like a new album in the works, he's been quiet over the past months and knowing his work ehtic...he's gotta be making music. Or as he says "I am music"

He can't be celibate...really?
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I was waiting for someone to bring that up. I laughed out loud for real when I read that.
He can save that story for the JWs...
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He keeps repeating himself on that issue. I wonder who he is trying to convience. I just don't buy it.
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Reply #105 posted 09/26/08 1:36pm

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Meloh9 said:

in what way did P burn bridges with Univeral and Sony? I'm out of the loop, last I knew Sony seamed pleased with him

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The rumor is that he would not go out and promote 3121 they why they wanted him too and he started arguing with the label. The end result was Universal walking away from him and dropping Tamar.

He than gave the Planet Earth CD away in the newspaper after Sony fired his manager/lawyer. The label wanted to promote and sell the CD via the stores not have it given away in a newspaper.

Let's be honest we only have a few major record labels and I think they are pretty much done with P. He will have to find alternative means to distribute his music. Which is cool since records labels are struggling and are not going to be pressed to keep a 50 something year-old artist around whose master tape they do not even own.
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Reply #106 posted 09/26/08 1:36pm

Graycap23

All of this sounds so much better when it comes straight from the one and ONLY source of Prince's activity, Prince.
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Reply #107 posted 09/26/08 1:38pm

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serpan99 said:

I wonder if I'll b able 2 catch the Prince-TV broadcasts. razz
Perhaps the idea of having his own video station was his reason 2 ban every Prince video elsewhere on the internet?
yesh snf it would probally cost and arm and aleg to watch. I still think he should have addressed the dancing baby issue.
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Reply #108 posted 09/26/08 1:51pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

PicassoFace said:

"I did the Dirty Mind tour and pushed that envelope off the table. What I didn't do, Madonna finished. I don't want to go back. You have to get out of your own way."

I gotta disagree with him here. I've always thought Prince pushed the envelope way farther than Madonna ever has--and long before she hit the scene. I've never understood why Madonna seems to get more recognition for things--such as having racy lyrics and stage shows and constantly reinventing her look and persona--when Prince has done the same thing, first and better.

I remember watching a show on VH-1 about sex in music, and they were talking about how bold Madonna was for using the word "virgin" in a song title. But "Like a Virgin" is tame compared to songs like "Head" and "Jack U Off".
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SO TRUE...
However b/c Madonna is a woman and because she came out with the SEX book and has played a stripper and dominatrix in her video and had that tour documentary, folks got bamboozled into thinking she's this musical sexual Maverick when all she's done has been done by others and more bluntly IMO. I guess Prince pushed the envelope off the table and Madonna picked it up and licked it. lick

That's a great analysis. I totally agree with you Desiree. nod
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #109 posted 09/26/08 1:54pm

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laurarichardson said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



it's going 2 b interesting 2 c who will distribute it since he's burned the bridges 2 universal and sony

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I think he might be looking at Best Buy or Target. A lot of artist are doing this now.

As long as it's not Wal-Mart, then we cool. We don't have a Wal-Mart in NYC (shocking isn't it?) but we have loads of Best Buy's and we have Target's too! smile
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #110 posted 09/26/08 2:05pm

Anxiety

purplecam said:

laurarichardson said:


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I think he might be looking at Best Buy or Target. A lot of artist are doing this now.

As long as it's not Wal-Mart, then we cool. We don't have a Wal-Mart in NYC (shocking isn't it?) but we have loads of Best Buy's and we have Target's too! smile


is target still fairly exotic for NYC? i remember when i moved from NYC to chicago, target was like a magical retail wonderland because i never got to go on a target run as a new yorker...it was too out of the way. is there one in manhattan now, or conveniently located nearby?

i'd be bummed out if prince struck a deal with wal-mart. i mean, come on. standards, dude. disbelief
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Reply #111 posted 09/26/08 2:24pm

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Celebate my ass! The guy is the biggest poon hound in rock history. He just says that so the JW's won't kick him out or they had him shut up for pr reasons. I haven't heard any news about him visiting houses for the religion, except that one article years ago.

The guy has been seen going into hotels with women. Trusting the tabloids..lol

He wrote a song about Martin King but doesn't vote? Martin King died so you could vote you sorry sack of shit.

People who don't vote should be kicked out of America, period.

This election is too important. Bet he likes Palin as well.

Intelligent design? eat me.

The Devine! Wow, I bet is sounds like something from Diamonds And Pearls...lol You know he always overrates his stuff.

The Real God needs to knock this guy in the beak.


I usually don't respond to posts as ignorant as this, but I felt compelled to this time. Martin Luther King Jr. fought for the right for ALL citizens in this country to have equal rights, to be treated fairly as human beings with dignity and respect. He died because some idiot assasinated him. He didn't die for anyone to have the right to vote. Don't diminish/reduce his struggle to "the right to vote."

Having the right to vote means that someone has the OPTION to vote or not to vote. That is the right that ALL citizens should have. It does not mean that they have to go out and vote, especially if it conflicts with their spiritual beliefs. The right to CHOOSE is the issue. When black people did not have the right to vote it meant that we did not have a choice. Prince, and the rest of us black folk now have the right to CHOOSE whether we want to take part in the voting process or not. Exercising one's right not to vote is as much about freedom as exercising the right to vote. It is not grounds to kick someone out of a country. That's a very ignorant proposition. Shouldn't people have the equal right to have views that are different from yours or even the majority for that matter?

Also, if you have such a problem with Prince and his beliefs and lifestyle why are you on this site posting? Where are your facts and evidence to contradict anything he has said in this interview. I am all for people sharing different opinions here. However, your post is so vitriolic that it makes me wonder why you would spend time reading an interview and posting comments about a "sorry sack of shit," as you described him. You really need to get a life.
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Reply #112 posted 09/26/08 2:44pm

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prince is sexy cool
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Reply #113 posted 09/26/08 2:57pm

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I knew there was a reason he was rounding up all digital content on the Internet ... his own TV station ... interesting.

People keep thinking he'll show just videos -- what if this is the venue for all of his concert recordings?! eek

For now, cool to know the book is out soon. Definitely be getting one.
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Reply #114 posted 09/26/08 3:00pm

kimrachell

very cool article!!! makes me a little excited for what the future holds.
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Reply #115 posted 09/26/08 3:29pm

eaglebear4839

Except he fails to realize one thing - not everyone thinks like he does, and in fact, the way people listen to music in general is not like it was even 15 years ago. I hate to say it, but idealism aside, music has been corporatized and will never be the same, save independent artists.

Anji said:

The promotion of the new album seems to be taking shape just like the old days. Ya know, when you'd first hear of seemingly mysterious song titles, like Days of Wild, from an interview in a magazine. He's playing with us, again.
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Reply #116 posted 09/26/08 3:34pm

Anxiety

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Except he fails to realize one thing - not everyone thinks like he does, and in fact, the way people listen to music in general is not like it was even 15 years ago. I hate to say it, but idealism aside, music has been corporatized and will never be the same, save independent artists.

Anji said:

The promotion of the new album seems to be taking shape just like the old days. Ya know, when you'd first hear of seemingly mysterious song titles, like Days of Wild, from an interview in a magazine. He's playing with us, again.


i think what bothers me is that prince is still trying to pimp the industry and he's trundling his wares to the big box stores now that he feels he's exhausted the major labels. meanwhile, other big artists are using their resources to release their own music and the returns have been a big success for those bands, not to mention it gives their credibility a large boost. i mean, after all, where would you rather say you got a new album from - directly from nin.com or exclusively at walmart?
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Reply #117 posted 09/26/08 3:36pm

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Se7en said:

I knew there was a reason he was rounding up all digital content on the Internet ... his own TV station ... interesting.

People keep thinking he'll show just videos -- what if this is the venue for all of his concert recordings?! eek

For now, cool to know the book is out soon. Definitely be getting one.


The TV station idea sounds cool, but I fear that with his habit of self-censorship and distancing himself from his past, I doubt we'd get to see the best stuff from the archives.

I used to dream of Prince remastering his back catalog and re-releasing each album with a bonus CD of outtakes from the particular era as well as an accompanying DVD of a live show from the era as well. How cool would it be to get a remastered 1999 with a disc of outtakes and a DVD of the Homecoming show? It will never happen, of course, but a man can dream.
"I Was FINE Back in the Day!"
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Reply #118 posted 09/26/08 4:00pm

eaglebear4839

Prince says:

Cyberspace "is a black hole to me," he says. "YouTube is the hippest network, and they abuse copyright right and left. You see a song like Purple Rain turned into Pure Cocaine; what should my response be? I chase the money to find out who's behind it. It's a matter of principle. I don't want my music bastardized.'"

There's no basis for logic behind this statement - is he attributing Pure Cocaine's existence to the existence of Youtube? I doubt the connection is there, except maybe in his mind. Maybe he's trying to make a statement about the internet making such corruption possible.

(And BTW, if EVEN ONE SINGLE PERSON believes that Prince has been "celibate for years", they are really deluding themselves.)
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Reply #119 posted 09/26/08 4:01pm

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24 hour prince tv station? That'd be great if he could get it widely carried, including DirecTV

His viewpoint of iTunes is crazy, though. Nothing could make him more money than systematically releasing the contents of the vault through iTunes. All of the music, all of the videos. And it would be far less financially risky than starting an all Prince TV station, which probably wouldn't last longer than 6 months before he pulled the plug.
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