paintedlady said:

lauralevesque said:

Yeah but now that I think about it, that was probably scripted too- just for the show- the way they were fawning over him and Mayte was all big-eyed looking at him, I bet he had his wedding ring on from minute one or had previously mentioned his wife.

He didn't wear a ring, and he mentioned his wife while they were in the red room and ALL the women let out a sigh of dissapointment when he did.

Sherri was bold and said "Oh you ARE married! " as if to tell him she didn't appreciate him playing mind games with the ladies....

Sherri is bold as hell.

Is Sherri the one that was married to Will Smith? If so, she is the only one on the show I absolutely do not like. She's so entitled. But on another completely unrelated note, I've stolen the line R.Kelley's wife used and have been saying it frequently, "He's a T.O.D.- "Talk ya out ya draws!" haha-

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lauralevesque said:

paintedlady said:

He didn't wear a ring, and he mentioned his wife while they were in the red room and ALL the women let out a sigh of dissapointment when he did.

Sherri was bold and said "Oh you ARE married! " as if to tell him she didn't appreciate him playing mind games with the ladies....

Sherri is bold as hell.

Is Sherri the one that was married to Will Smith? If so, she is the only one on the show I absolutely do not like. She's so entitled. But on another completely unrelated note, I've stolen the line R.Kelley's wife used and have been saying it frequently, "He's a T.O.D.- "Talk ya out ya draws!" haha-

Sherri is Will Smith's ex... yeah, she is a trip!

LOL! I am stealing that phrase too! Its too funny.... and true

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Finally saw a couple of episodes and I like it. Not going to say much for right now. Except, yeah, keeping the china is one thing, but having it on display is a completely different thing. If it were me all that stuff would be boxed up in storage somewhere, basement, attic, somewhere out of site out of mind.

Saw the episode tonight...

The show is too pathetic with all those pretentious women. The only one person I liked was Mayte. She doesn't fit with those bitches because she seems as too nice person for them.

Mayte's mother seemed as much controlling person as Prince in Mayte's life. They both controlled Mayte, and her mother lives with her. This is not normal. Mayte needs to run away from her past and her mother.

But I understand why Mayte's mother is angry at Prince, he ruined her daughter's life and ruined her psychologically and emotionally, IMO

The scene trying on Prince's clothes and sniffing them was funny, I would do the same thing, lol

Yes...gotta love Prince the Artist, but as a person he only makes all his women unhappy, and that must be scary living with someone like that.

irinact said:

Saw the episode tonight...

The show is too pathetic with all those pretentious women. The only one person I liked was Mayte. She doesn't fit with those bitches because she seems as too nice person for them.

Mayte's mother seemed as much controlling person as Prince in Mayte's life. They both controlled Mayte, and her mother lives with her. This is not normal. Mayte needs to run away from her past and her mother.

But I understand why Mayte's mother is angry at Prince, he ruined her daughter's life and ruined her psychologically and emotionally, IMO

The scene trying on Prince's clothes and sniffing them was funny, I would do the same thing, lol

Yes...gotta love Prince the Artist, but as a person he only makes all his women unhappy, and that must be scary living with someone like that.

wow, that is something to think about. All that charm, good lucks, romantic songs and money... yet he still strikes out.

Revolution said:

lauralevesque said:

When I saw the promos of Mayte's date I thought, "What?!" but after watching the episode, I thought he was adorable- Surely he shouldn't have worn the hoodie but I liked that he was unpretentious and kind of funny and told Mayte (the gorgeous Mayte!) that he wouldn't kiss her because she was coughing! haha-

He was a nice enough dude, but these people are of a certain age now; I can't roll with somebody who doesn't even take care to dress accordingly for a date, in addition to being a poor conversationalist who hasn't yet figured out how to properly eat pasta in a restaurant If I was out in the market, I would be looking for a man who's not just pleasant, but can make make intelligent conversation and at least has basic table manners to accomdate eating in public. I don't find that being pretentious, it's just about finding a grown, mature man that has basic social skills that I'd like to be more compatible with my own. No one is saying that the girl (or any single woman out there) should only be focused on elite circles and celebrities, but by God, don't shortchange yourself for basic compatability traits in your search---that doesn't make any sense and is basically just a waste of everyone's time in the end.

paintedlady said:

lauralevesque said:

No I didn't pick up on that! I thought she was really sick! haha- Well, I guess now I know. If ever I'm on a date and someone starts pulling that move, I will surely know to be offended!

Yeah I took notice that she didn't cough one single time after that bad date, or before the date.

Exactly . That whole "feigning sickness not too long into the meal" thing is classic 40+ Dating 101, likely from the chapter called "Oh Shit, What the Hell Did I Get Myself Into With THIS Mofo?".

The other option is to have an emergency call in the middle of dinner because your parakeet died/a water main broke/your fire alarm went off at home

Ottensen said:

paintedlady said:

Yeah I took notice that she didn't cough one single time after that bad date, or before the date.

Exactly . That whole "feigning sickness not too long into the meal" thing is classic 40+ Dating 101, likely from the chapter called "Oh Shit, What the Hell Did I Get Myself Into With THIS Mofo?".

The other option is to have an emergency call in the middle of dinner because your parakeet died/a water main broke/your fire alarm went off at home

Yeah, I am definately not hip to these things! Once a guy broke up with me and gave me the old, "It's not you it's me" line (at that time I had never seen a single episode of Seinfeld) and I remember driving home that night thinking, "Wow, that was really big of him to admit that I am not the problem, that he is!" hahaha- So stupid!

Ottensen said:

paintedlady said:

Yeah I took notice that she didn't cough one single time after that bad date, or before the date.

Exactly . That whole "feigning sickness not too long into the meal" thing is classic 40+ Dating 101, likely from the chapter called "Oh Shit, What the Hell Did I Get Myself Into With THIS Mofo?".

The other option is to have an emergency call in the middle of dinner because your parakeet died/a water main broke/your fire alarm went off at home

I can never understand why people go that route. I mean...it's so transparent. And if you feign a disaster, the creep might want to help you in some way.

I'd rather just say, "I think we both know this isn't going very well - so let's cut it short. Here's my half of drinks/dinner/whatever. Have a good evening."

lauralevesque said:

Ottensen said:

Exactly . That whole "feigning sickness not too long into the meal" thing is classic 40+ Dating 101, likely from the chapter called "Oh Shit, What the Hell Did I Get Myself Into With THIS Mofo?".

The other option is to have an emergency call in the middle of dinner because your parakeet died/a water main broke/your fire alarm went off at home

Yeah, I am definately not hip to these things! Once a guy broke up with me and gave me the old, "It's not you it's me" line (at that time I had never seen a single episode of Seinfeld) and I remember driving home that night thinking, "Wow, that was really big of him to admit that I am not the problem, that he is!" hahaha- So stupid!

I never would have thought of that coughing thing in a million years. There will be no kissing tonight, no, no. I guess I need to read more of those dating books. That was kind of funny to me, but we knew on site that date wasn't going anywhere. I must have missed something in the episodes, but what is that ring Mayte's wearing, I only noticed it once, I'll have to go back and check at a later date

If Mayte wants to keep displaying that china she better suck it up and find a prince fan to marry. because only a "gay for prince" dude would put up with that.

On another note i LOVED when the ladies were trying on his shirts and sniffing them. That's been my favorite part of the whole show so far. I would have put on "When Doves Cry" and done the dance from the end of the video.

Who thinks Mani's going to be making more apperances on the show? I just feel she'll be showing up another time or two ...... to me that's going to be the most interesting part of the show.

Genesia said:

Ottensen said:

Exactly . That whole "feigning sickness not too long into the meal" thing is classic 40+ Dating 101, likely from the chapter called "Oh Shit, What the Hell Did I Get Myself Into With THIS Mofo?".

The other option is to have an emergency call in the middle of dinner because your parakeet died/a water main broke/your fire alarm went off at home

I can never understand why people go that route. I mean...it's so transparent. And if you feign a disaster, the creep might want to help you in some way.

I'd rather just say, "I think we both know this isn't going very well - so let's cut it short. Here's my half of drinks/dinner/whatever. Have a good evening."

I think for me, it has primarily to do with not wanting to hurt another person's feelings and being under the (possibly mistaken!) impression that this might be better for not bruising their egos, particularly if the other person appears to happily be going along with the flow, and meanwhile the whole situation is making your a** itch . Dating a new person can be awkward enough as it is, so sometimes if it's just a blatant mis-fit, ya just want to escape...but with impunity. It's very cowardly, I know, I know.

The other option for me would be something to the effect of, "you know, this was a nice evening, but the more and more I think about it, I'm just not ready to jump back in the water and date again, blah blah blah fill in the blank with a closing sentence to postively re-affirm the other person yet make it clear I'm done ---close with a thank you"---then offer to pay dutch and exit.

The dude would have to be a real jerk for me to blast the incompatibility and totally cut off his game.

lauralevesque said:

Ottensen said:

Exactly . That whole "feigning sickness not too long into the meal" thing is classic 40+ Dating 101, likely from the chapter called "Oh Shit, What the Hell Did I Get Myself Into With THIS Mofo?".

The other option is to have an emergency call in the middle of dinner because your parakeet died/a water main broke/your fire alarm went off at home

Yeah, I am definately not hip to these things! Once a guy broke up with me and gave me the old, "It's not you it's me" line (at that time I had never seen a single episode of Seinfeld) and I remember driving home that night thinking, "Wow, that was really big of him to admit that I am not the problem, that he is!" hahaha- So stupid!

Girl, that line is hella old , it didn't even originate with Seinfeld. . Okay, it's official--- we have to have you observe some of the OG ladies in the org's GD section ; the experience, wisdom, advice and tips they have on man-woman affairs in there is pretty dang awesome...and well, hilarious to boot

Ottensen said:

Genesia said:

I can never understand why people go that route. I mean...it's so transparent. And if you feign a disaster, the creep might want to help you in some way.

I'd rather just say, "I think we both know this isn't going very well - so let's cut it short. Here's my half of drinks/dinner/whatever. Have a good evening."

I think for me, it has primarily to do with not wanting to hurt another person's feelings and being under the (possibly mistaken!) impression that this might be better for not bruising their egos, particularly if the other person appears to happily be going along with the flow, and meanwhile the whole situation is making your a** itch . Dating a new person can be awkward enough as it is, so sometimes if it's just a blatant mis-fit, ya just want to escape...but with impunity. It's very cowardly, I know, I know.

The other option for me would be something to the effect of, "you know, this was a nice evening, but the more and more I think about it, I'm just not ready to jump back in the water and date again, blah blah blah fill in the blank with a closing sentence to postively re-affirm the other person yet make it clear I'm done ---close with a thank you"---then offer to pay dutch and exit.

The dude would have to be a real jerk for me to blast the incompatibility and totally cut off his game.

Well, see...I either like a person or I don't - and I usually make that determination pretty quickly. FWIW, I would never use the "it's clear this isn't going well" approach unless it was absolutely, 100% crystal clear that a) no way in holy hell would there be another date and b) I wanted to get as away from this doorknob as fast as my little legs could carry me. There's just no point in being subtle in such cases.

Genesia said:

Ottensen said:

I think for me, it has primarily to do with not wanting to hurt another person's feelings and being under the (possibly mistaken!) impression that this might be better for not bruising their egos, particularly if the other person appears to happily be going along with the flow, and meanwhile the whole situation is making your a** itch . Dating a new person can be awkward enough as it is, so sometimes if it's just a blatant mis-fit, ya just want to escape...but with impunity. It's very cowardly, I know, I know.

The other option for me would be something to the effect of, "you know, this was a nice evening, but the more and more I think about it, I'm just not ready to jump back in the water and date again, blah blah blah fill in the blank with a closing sentence to postively re-affirm the other person yet make it clear I'm done ---close with a thank you"---then offer to pay dutch and exit.

The dude would have to be a real jerk for me to blast the incompatibility and totally cut off his game.

Well, see...I either like a person or I don't - and I usually make that determination pretty quickly. FWIW, I would never use the "it's clear this isn't going well" approach unless it was absolutely, 100% crystal clear that a) no way in holy hell would there be another date and b) I wanted to get as away from this doorknob as fast as my little legs could carry me. There's just no point in being subtle in such cases.

See! I have a bleeding heart (well..sort of ), I would still try to say something to spare the dude embarrassment and having struck out...but if he was sincerely a jerk, a big jerk...then I'm going for the direct approach similar to yours !

Ottensen said:

lauralevesque said:

Yeah, I am definately not hip to these things! Once a guy broke up with me and gave me the old, "It's not you it's me" line (at that time I had never seen a single episode of Seinfeld) and I remember driving home that night thinking, "Wow, that was really big of him to admit that I am not the problem, that he is!" hahaha- So stupid!

Girl, that line is hella old , it didn't even originate with Seinfeld. . Okay, it's official--- we have to have you observe some of the OG ladies in the org's GD section ; the experience, wisdom, advice and tips they have on man-woman affairs in there is pretty dang awesome...and well, hilarious to boot

haha- Yes,, I would surely love to read some of those! I swear, that dude must have thought when I left, 'That girl is so DUMB!" haha

Ottensen said:

Genesia said:

Well, see...I either like a person or I don't - and I usually make that determination pretty quickly. FWIW, I would never use the "it's clear this isn't going well" approach unless it was absolutely, 100% crystal clear that a) no way in holy hell would there be another date and b) I wanted to get as away from this doorknob as fast as my little legs could carry me. There's just no point in being subtle in such cases.

See! I have a bleeding heart (well..sort of ), I would still try to say something to spare the dude embarrassment and having struck out...but if he was sincerely a jerk, a big jerk...then I'm going for the direct approach similar to yours !

Now see, I dealt with dudes who appeared normal until crazy jumped out when I let a mofo know I didn't like them. I had a guy follow me out to a parking lot with a knife (all that over turning his offer for a drink down) ... thank goodness I had friends nearby.

You just never know yanno? So I am nice because I don't know when a guy is a straight nutjob who can't handle rejection. So I let guys down easy... damn shame I met a knuckle head when I was young. I may have been more straight forward like Genesia.

isobelfq said:

If Mayte wants to keep displaying that china she better suck it up and find a prince fan to marry. because only a "gay for prince" dude would put up with that.

On another note i LOVED when the ladies were trying on his shirts and sniffing them. That's been my favorite part of the whole show so far. I would have put on "When Doves Cry" and done the dance from the end of the video.

I'm not gay for Prince, but i'd marry her tomorrow and she can keep the china wherever she likes!

Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with her still having the china, but the clothes should be gone.

mimi02 said:

Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with her still having the china, but the clothes should be gone.

yeah, I agree. The wedding china is like keeping wedding albums or wedding ring sets, wedding dress etc.

It is sort of like memorabilia to a big posh event.

But keeping the man's clothes... well that is another thing. Except this is PRINCE so his clothes are of value.

I think she keeps the china for sentimental reasons but the clothes because she is no fool, she knows a stan on the Org (or similar) will pay big bucks for Prince's old shirt.

Here's something that stood out to me, correct me if I'm wrong since I haven't seen all episodes so far. When the ladies talk about their children, Mayte is very quiet which is understandable given her situation, what's she going to say. And of course the ladies will talk about their kids cause that's just what folks to. No problem. But when they got into the lifestyle they use to lead with their Exes, black book at Gucci and all, Mayte got quiet the same way and that kind of stood out to me, like she didn't have the same freedom as these other ladies in things like that, I don't know maybe I'm reading to much into, maybe she just reserved.

What stood out to me... especially in episode 4 on the plane ride ... that Mayte and prince didn't have all that money to burn like the Murphy's did.

Nicole: "Girl Prince didn't have ya'll on private jets?"

Mayte: "Naw, we traveled with the band and errybody...."

Nicole: "Damn... po' baby... "