SeventeenDayze said:

Graycap23 said:

It is fake concern. Blacks kids are neglected on every level from prenatal care thru the so called education system thru the Prison industrial complex.............yet everyone is so concerned about how a Black man whips his kids. This so called concern is almost laughable if it was so pathetic.

Yeah that's a good point. It's almost like saying you're not racist because you have a friend that just adopted a black baby. It's like, defacto racism in the sense that it's not related to the topic at hand but can easily lead someone to draw the conclusion that they are concerned about an entire race of children. Something like that...

It is facinating how in the US u are innocent until proven guilty............except when brothers are involved. It is uncanny how the simple accusation works when it is us involved. No one wants 2 talk about that angle either.

Graycap23 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Yeah that's a good point. It's almost like saying you're not racist because you have a friend that just adopted a black baby. It's like, defacto racism in the sense that it's not related to the topic at hand but can easily lead someone to draw the conclusion that they are concerned about an entire race of children. Something like that...

It is facinating how in the US u are innocent until proven guilty............except when brothers are involved. It is uncanny how the simple accusation works when it is us involved. No one wants 2 talk about that angle either.

We can talk about that angle, if you wish, in P&R but this thread is in GD and it's about a man that left open and bloody wounds on his four year old child. The same man that just last year, went through the experience of having one of his other children die at the hands of another man that was abusive when dealing with discipling children. This discussion is about child abuse and race has nothing to do with it!

We can't forget the role of the media doing this whole "trial by public opinion" because so many people blindly and wholeheartedly believe EVERYTHING they see and heard in the media, this man would never get a fair trial because he's already guilty until proven innocent.

SeventeenDayze said:

We can't forget the role of the media doing this whole "trial by public opinion" because so many people blindly and wholeheartedly believe EVERYTHING they see and heard in the media, this man would never get a fair trial because he's already guilty until proven innocent.

I agree.

The guy said he did it. It's not an accusation, it's not public opinion.

He said he did it, not the media. His lawyer said he did it because that's how he was raised.

All this bullshit about not getting a fair trial is ridiculous. He admitted guilt already, even if he backtracks and now claims he is innocent of this act (which everyone here said was taking it too far)...you have to be a complete moron to then side with this fuckwad.

I seen the pictures of the aftermath of that "spanking"... looks like Adrian hit his son in anger.

It is always a VERY bad idea to discipline your child in anger, no matter what technique you use, because it tends to turn into abuse, whether it is physical, emotional, or verbal. Sparing the rod is not needed when you decide to lay aside your anger.

The worst punishments I received were the verbal and emotional ones out of anger. I had the worst mother who was passive aggressive, and when she didn't hit me she made sure she got back at me for being mean to me for days and allowing my younger brother and older sister to be mean to me, even making me go without food, sometimes an entire day. Spankings doled out were easy by comparison.

Anything done is anger is horrible on a child, I think Adrian needs anger management. Even if he doesn't hit his child, I am sure his anger will cause his son just as much damage by the way he treats him just the same.

JustErin said:

The guy said he did it. It's not an accusation, it's not public opinion.

He said he did it, not the media. His lawyer said he did it because that's how he was raised.

All this bullshit about not getting a fair trial is ridiculous. He admitted guilt already, even if he backtracks and now claims he is innocent of this act (which everyone here said was taking it too far)...you have to be a complete moron to then side with this fuckwad.

Just because someone admits they are guilty of a crime doesn't make them guilty of a crime. Do you read up on law or snark?

SeventeenDayze said:

SeventeenDayze said:

JustErin said:

The guy said he did it. It's not an accusation, it's not public opinion.

He said he did it, not the media. His lawyer said he did it because that's how he was raised.

All this bullshit about not getting a fair trial is ridiculous. He admitted guilt already, even if he backtracks and now claims he is innocent of this act (which everyone here said was taking it too far)...you have to be a complete moron to then side with this fuckwad.

Just because someone admits they are guilty of a crime doesn't make them guilty of a crime. Do you read up on law or snark?

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MoBettaBliss said:

paintedlady said:

I guess all those cases about coercion and whatnot are just a figment of my imagination, go figure.

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Graycap23 said:

hummm.........sounds like he whipped some butt with a switch.

Graycap23 said:

He went way 2 far................and will be playing next week.

Graycap23 said:

It is facinating how in the US u are innocent until proven guilty............except when brothers are involved.

it would seem that you assumed he's guilty too

MoBettaBliss said:

Stymie said:

if you draw blood when you discipline your kid, that is abuse. if he was that angry, he should have not punished the kid at that time.

he let his anger get the best of him

Anyone care to discuss Charles Barkley and Chris Carter?

phunkdaddy said:

MoBettaBliss said:

it would seem that you assumed he's guilty too

Okay who's baiting who into an argument now. It's not that serious. We've all agreed that AP went too far but a few of us felt like he wasn't the evil monster he is portrayed to be. Whether he is or not it will come to light. It's no sense in bitching and moaning 8 pages about something you can't control.

Lol.......

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phunkdaddy said:

MoBettaBliss said:

it would seem that you assumed he's guilty too

Okay who's baiting who into an argument now. It's not that serious. We've all agreed that AP went too far but a few of us felt like he wasn't the evil monster he is portrayed to be. Whether he is or not it will come to light. It's no sense in bitching and moaning 8 pages about something you can't control.

i'm calling him on his bullshit... that's all... dude seems to think he can make unfounded accusations of racism at the drop of a hat... what i pointed out was his hypocrisy

i've had a gut full of his passive aggressive bullshit

i'm still trying to figure out if he's a troll... or just incredibly stupid... so far, my money's on a bit of both

babynoz said:

Anyone care to discuss Charles Barkley and Chris Carter?

Was it me or did Chris Carter really tear up a bit towards the end of his rant/commentary?

Graycap23 said:

According to those that promote racism the MOSt, nothing that happens has anything to do with race, yet as a Black man in America, I deal with this everyday of my existence once I walk outside of my house.

Good point.

SeventeenDayze said:

Graycap23 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Was it me or did Chris Carter really tear up a bit towards the end of his rant/commentary?

I have not heard either of their comments yet.

I stumbled upon a clip of it the other day when I was watching the early games. It was pretty heated. Charles was saying that growing up in the south as a black person that kind of punishment was normal. Chris was saying that it's 2014 and we can't use the past as an excuse to continue that kind of behavior and that it's not what being a man is about. To me it seemed like he teared up towards the end and he was really, REALLY heated when they were talking about it.

Drama drama drama. I guess I feel their pain, but like Tariq Nasheed said in that video I posted, would they be so passionate and vocal in public had the perpetrator not been Adrian Peterson?

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Graycap23 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Was it me or did Chris Carter really tear up a bit towards the end of his rant/commentary?

I have not heard either of their comments yet.

I don't even care to hear them. So sick of this media feeding frenzy over these recent events in the NFL. I just turn the channel.

All the other issues aside...the child is the only thing that matters. This is abuse any way you look at it. When you believe you have to do this to a 4 year old child then you've lost already. Whip him bloody? Stuff leaves in his mouth??? This isn't discipline. Discipline is "systematic instruction intended to train a person..." as in teach, instruct, and help the child learn WHY a particular behavior is wrong. Not make the child so terrified of being whipped with a switch until he or she is bloody that he or she learns to lie about it if they do screw up. That's not respect for a parent, that's pure fear. Not a good way to 'teach' anything. Believe me, I lived it.

Paintedlady mentioned something about mental cruelty also. If Adrian was able to inflict this on his child and leave a scar on the other one, I wonder how he "talked" to his children in private.

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WTF... this thread

Four year olds aren't 35, 35, 57 year old adults! I know an obvious statement, who knew! I'm not against spanking, I' am totally against abuse and beating children to a bloody mess. This is a four year child, they get into stuff, move around, get rubber legs, break off running, whine, test you.. the gamut. You don't beat the shit out of kids for this; I doubt if Perterson son was doing anything more.

Graycap23 said:

According to those that promote racism the MOSt, nothing that happens has anything to do with race, yet as a Black man in America, I deal with this everyday of my existence once I walk outside of my house.

i have no doubt you have to deal with racism

i'm a white dude living in australia... i would never be so disrespectful as to think i have any clue what it's like to walk in the shoes of a black man in america

but to tell people their motivation for being upset about a child being beaten is "fake" and raced based, is completely out of line

you don't get to accuse me of unfounded shit, and have me sit there and take it

i don't believe one person in this thread that voiced their disgust in this had any thoughts of race whatsoever

but i give up with you... it's obvious you're going to continue on the path you're on, and nothing anyone says will make any difference