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Reply #60 posted 09/15/14 10:56am

Shyra

uPtoWnNY said:

I'm all for old school discipline, but sounds like this was excessive.

My maternal grandmother down south had one of those long-ass green hickory switches. She would tear your legs UP, and that switch would be cutting wind too. Back in the day, old folks didn't play. At home, Dad handled most of the discipline. We weren't spanked that often - the threat of getting hit with the belt kept us from doing too much dumb shit.

hammer yeahthat See. I too believe in old school. Some of the kids today need an old fashioned ass kickin. I don't believe in beating kids violently, but a smack across the ass can do wonders.

My parents used a belt when we got spanked, but it never was to the point of drawing blood or whelps. The belt was used on our behinds, but we always were fully clothed, no bare bottom spanking ever. And if a switch was used, it was the same, on our covered butts. We wore those heavy corduroys or jeans, so we never got bloody whelps, just the sting of the belt.

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Reply #61 posted 09/15/14 11:22am

morningsong

Yep way over the top for a 4 year old. That's a beat down, not discipline. Dad needs a lot of counseling.

I'm one who got their butt tore up by a wide variety of things, I was a very stubborn child but not at that young of age, maybe a house slipper and a couple a quick swats was enough to keep me from doing something like running into the middle of the street for attention.
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Reply #62 posted 09/15/14 11:48am

SeventeenDayze

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

I'm all for old school discipline, but leaving marks is crossing the line.

My maternal grandmother down south had one of those long-ass green hickory switches. She would tear your legs UP, and that switch would be cutting wind too. Back in the day, old folks didn't play. At home, Dad handled most of the discipline. We weren't spanked that often - the threat of getting hit with the belt kept us from doing too much dumb shit.

Vikings just reinstated Peterson.

He went way 2 far................and will be playing next week.

It will be interesting to see how they balance this with the Ray Rice thing happening at the same time...

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Reply #63 posted 09/15/14 11:58am

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SeventeenDayze said:

Graycap23 said:

He went way 2 far................and will be playing next week.

It will be interesting to see how they balance this with the Ray Rice thing happening at the same time...

There really isn't anything 2 balance. his trial is next year and he has posted bail.

What is left other than PR?

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Reply #64 posted 09/15/14 1:33pm

MoBettaBliss

a big part of the problem is many parents are just too damn lazy to spend the time needed where you can discipline your children without hitting them

i discipline my kids... i don't need to beat them... if i'm talking to another adult and my 4 year old wants my attention he'll wait for a pause in the conversation and say "excuse me daddy"... people are always commenting on how well behaved he is... and how happy he is... because i spend a LOT of time with him

the thought that as a grown man, i would need to use a freakin' weapon to beat him with is staggering

my heart really goes out to that little kid

and i don't care what people did "back in the day"... it's 2014... we (should) know a lot more now

what this dude did is sick

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Reply #65 posted 09/15/14 2:04pm

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It's just disgusting that Adrian Peterson's lawyer Rusty Hardin keeps trying to justify Peterson's actions by having Peterson explain that he (Peterson) disciplined his child the way he had been disicplined when he was a child.

Like that makes it all OK.

Bullshit. Peterson brought blood, and in several places.

As bad a person as Adrian Peterson is, scumbag lawyer Rusty Hardin is right up there with him.

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Reply #66 posted 09/15/14 2:48pm

babynoz

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I will never understand how anyone could look at the pictures of welts all over a four-year-old and say, "Ah, it's no big dea".

Absolutely incredible.

Anyone that draws blood out of a child (multiple times in multiple places) has a real problem, and ought to see the inside of a jail cell.


Well, when you have folks here referring to kids as little bastards....

People get more upset about their car being hit than a kid.


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Reply #67 posted 09/15/14 2:56pm

uPtoWnNY

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a big part of the problem is many parents are just too damn lazy to spend the time needed where you can discipline your children without hitting them

i discipline my kids... i don't need to beat them... if i'm talking to another adult and my 4 year old wants my attention he'll wait for a pause in the conversation and say "excuse me daddy"... people are always commenting on how well behaved he is... and how happy he is... because i spend a LOT of time with him

the thought that as a grown man, i would need to use a freakin' weapon to beat him with is staggering

my heart really goes out to that little kid

and i don't care what people did "back in the day"... it's 2014... we (should) know a lot more now

what this dude did is sick

Beating and spanking are two different things. I grew up in the South Bronx, and I'm damn glad I had a stern father to keep my ass in line. My brother handles his kids the same way (equal parts love & tough discipline), and they're fine. Different strokes for different folks.

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Reply #68 posted 09/15/14 2:59pm

uPtoWnNY

Shyra said:

uPtoWnNY said:

I'm all for old school discipline, but sounds like this was excessive.

My maternal grandmother down south had one of those long-ass green hickory switches. She would tear your legs UP, and that switch would be cutting wind too. Back in the day, old folks didn't play. At home, Dad handled most of the discipline. We weren't spanked that often - the threat of getting hit with the belt kept us from doing too much dumb shit.

hammer yeahthat See. I too believe in old school. Some of the kids today need an old fashioned ass kickin. I don't believe in beating kids violently, but a smack across the ass can do wonders.

My parents used a belt when we got spanked, but it never was to the point of drawing blood or whelps. The belt was used on our behinds, but we always were fully clothed, no bare bottom spanking ever. And if a switch was used, it was the same, on our covered butts. We wore those heavy corduroys or jeans, so we never got bloody whelps, just the sting of the belt.

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AMEN, especially your first sentence!

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Reply #69 posted 09/15/14 3:42pm

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His apology sounds sincere.
What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #70 posted 09/15/14 5:04pm

RodeoSchro

Adrian Peterson hit another son in the head, causing bleeding and scarring.

The news is not good for Adrian Peterson today. This is really disappointing. I've been a fan of Peterson since his days at OU, and reading about how his dad had to follow his college career from prison. It seemed like AP was a good guy, but I guess I was wrong.

Peterson apparently hit ANOTHER four-year-old son in the head, and there was scarring. Peterson says it was because the boy's head hit the carseat, but that's only his side of the story. And, unfortunately, Peterson blames it all on the boy.

The newscast video is embedded in this story. There are pictures of the boy's head, and the text messages from Peterson:

http://deadspin.com/adria...1635102727

Adrian Peterson has already been indicted on charges he beat one of his children, and a new report from KHOU alleges that he beat a another. KHOU reports the mother of a different four-year-old son of Peterson's filed a report with Child Protective Services because of a beating the Vikings running back gave the child.

In text messages aired on KHOU allegedly exchanged with the mother of the child, Peterson tells her that the boy received the beating because he was swearing at a sibling. While Peterson wouldn't tell her what he hit the boy with, he hit hard enough to leave a scar on the boy's face—apparently due to the presence of a car seat. You can view KHOU's full report from tonight's 6 p.m. newscast above.

The result of the Child Protective Services investigation is unclear, but charges were never filed. It's unclear when this second incident occurred.

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Reply #71 posted 09/15/14 5:32pm

babynoz

It's crazy because just last year one of this other babies was killed by the babymama's boyfriend. smdh.

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Reply #72 posted 09/15/14 7:12pm

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babynoz said:

It's crazy because just last year one of this other babies was killed by the babymama's boyfriend. smdh.

I'd totally forgotten that was his child too. The babymama's boyfriend beat his 2 year old child to death. That alone should be a red flag.

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Reply #73 posted 09/15/14 7:55pm

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We'll just have to see how things play out as due process take course. I'm actually

glad that folks here are passionate about children because

you would think that the way society is now based on some things I've

seen that folks actually value damn dogs more than they do kids. I just

hope we have the same passion the next time we see a cop abuse an

innocent teen.

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Reply #74 posted 09/15/14 8:02pm

Graycap23

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phunkdaddy said:

We'll just have to see how things play out as due process take course. I'm actually

glad that folks here are passionate about children because

you would think that the way society is now based on some things I've

seen that folks actually value damn dogs more than they do kids. I just

hope we have the same passion the next time we see a cop abuse an

innocent teen.

It is fake concern. Blacks kids are neglected on every level from prenatal care thru the so called education system thru the Prison industrial complex.............yet everyone is so concerned about how a Black man whips his kids. This so called concern is almost laughable if it was so pathetic.

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Reply #75 posted 09/15/14 9:24pm

SeventeenDayze

Graycap23 said:

phunkdaddy said:

We'll just have to see how things play out as due process take course. I'm actually

glad that folks here are passionate about children because

you would think that the way society is now based on some things I've

seen that folks actually value damn dogs more than they do kids. I just

hope we have the same passion the next time we see a cop abuse an

innocent teen.

It is fake concern. Blacks kids are neglected on every level from prenatal care thru the so called education system thru the Prison industrial complex.............yet everyone is so concerned about how a Black man whips his kids. This so called concern is almost laughable if it was so pathetic.

Yeah that's a good point. It's almost like saying you're not racist because you have a friend that just adopted a black baby. It's like, defacto racism in the sense that it's not related to the topic at hand but can easily lead someone to draw the conclusion that they are concerned about an entire race of children. Something like that...

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Reply #76 posted 09/15/14 9:47pm

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I don't agree with what Scarlet Scandal said about children but if I

had one like this I would drop his ass off in the nearest woods on

Interstate 77. lol

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Reply #77 posted 09/15/14 9:54pm

MoBettaBliss

Graycap23 said:

phunkdaddy said:

We'll just have to see how things play out as due process take course. I'm actually

glad that folks here are passionate about children because

you would think that the way society is now based on some things I've

seen that folks actually value damn dogs more than they do kids. I just

hope we have the same passion the next time we see a cop abuse an

innocent teen.

It is fake concern. Blacks kids are neglected on every level from prenatal care thru the so called education system thru the Prison industrial complex.............yet everyone is so concerned about how a Black man whips his kids. This so called concern is almost laughable if it was so pathetic.



here we fucking go again

are you able to get it through your head that people might be upset that a 4 year old child was beaten, regardless of the skin colour of the person doing the beating?

you're fucking relentless dude

if this story came up about a white family i'd react exactly the same way

it's not about "how a black man whips his kids"... it's about how a man whips his kids

the person with the race focus in this is you... you wouldn't give two shits if people were up in arms about a white dude doing this

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Reply #78 posted 09/15/14 10:18pm

morningsong

phunkdaddy said:




I don't agree with what Scarlet Scandal said about children but if I


had one like this I would drop his ass off in the nearest woods on


Interstate 77. lol






Such a precious little darling.
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Reply #79 posted 09/15/14 11:39pm

MoBettaBliss

uPtoWnNY said:

MoBettaBliss said:

a big part of the problem is many parents are just too damn lazy to spend the time needed where you can discipline your children without hitting them

i discipline my kids... i don't need to beat them... if i'm talking to another adult and my 4 year old wants my attention he'll wait for a pause in the conversation and say "excuse me daddy"... people are always commenting on how well behaved he is... and how happy he is... because i spend a LOT of time with him

the thought that as a grown man, i would need to use a freakin' weapon to beat him with is staggering

my heart really goes out to that little kid

and i don't care what people did "back in the day"... it's 2014... we (should) know a lot more now

what this dude did is sick

Beating and spanking are two different things. I grew up in the South Bronx, and I'm damn glad I had a stern father to keep my ass in line. My brother handles his kids the same way (equal parts love & tough discipline), and they're fine. Different strokes for different folks.



i'm sure most parents who spank their children believe it's in the best interests of the child... i'm not saying anyone who spanks their kids is evil or anything... i don't smack my kids... i did give my son a few taps on the back of the hand when he was about 3, but it didn't feel right... and i thought there's a better way i can go about it...i'm happy with that decision

i never think using a belt/branch/whatever is needed

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Reply #80 posted 09/16/14 4:02am

Graycap23

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MoBettaBliss said:

Graycap23 said:

It is fake concern. Blacks kids are neglected on every level from prenatal care thru the so called education system thru the Prison industrial complex.............yet everyone is so concerned about how a Black man whips his kids. This so called concern is almost laughable if it was so pathetic.



here we fucking go again

are you able to get it through your head that people might be upset that a 4 year old child was beaten, regardless of the skin colour of the person doing the beating?

you're fucking relentless dude

if this story came up about a white family i'd react exactly the same way

it's not about "how a black man whips his kids"... it's about how a man whips his kids

the person with the race focus in this is you... you wouldn't give two shits if people were up in arms about a white dude doing this

U are right.......here we go again.......because this fake ass concern never ends, just like racism never end. Consistent isn't it?

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Reply #81 posted 09/16/14 5:16am

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MoBettaBliss said:

Graycap23 said:

It is fake concern. Blacks kids are neglected on every level from prenatal care thru the so called education system thru the Prison industrial complex.............yet everyone is so concerned about how a Black man whips his kids. This so called concern is almost laughable if it was so pathetic.



here we fucking go again

are you able to get it through your head that people might be upset that a 4 year old child was beaten, regardless of the skin colour of the person doing the beating?

you're fucking relentless dude

if this story came up about a white family i'd react exactly the same way

it's not about "how a black man whips his kids"... it's about how a man whips his kids

the person with the race focus in this is you... you wouldn't give two shits if people were up in arms about a white dude doing this


Desperation causes people to say desperate things, no matter how misguided or embarrassing it is.

There is a race relations problem in the US, absolutely...but he really has no clue what he's talking about when he says people showing concern for children (who in this particular case happens to be black) are being fake.


But it doesn't matter because just sitting there wagging your finger at people does nothing. Meanwhile there are people who do care and are actually involved in children's issues and actually contributing and making a difference.

People who take action matter, soapbox standers do not.



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Reply #82 posted 09/16/14 5:22am

MoBettaBliss

Graycap23 said:

MoBettaBliss said:



here we fucking go again

are you able to get it through your head that people might be upset that a 4 year old child was beaten, regardless of the skin colour of the person doing the beating?

you're fucking relentless dude

if this story came up about a white family i'd react exactly the same way

it's not about "how a black man whips his kids"... it's about how a man whips his kids

the person with the race focus in this is you... you wouldn't give two shits if people were up in arms about a white dude doing this

U are right.......here we go again.......because this fake ass concern never ends, just like racism never end. Consistent isn't it?



what you just said makes no sense... none... and makes you look like a fool

you have NO RIGHT to tell me the concern i have i have for a 4 year old child who was beaten until he bled isn't real... no right at all... i have a 4 year old son... this story upsets me... you don't like it?... too bad

is racism prevalent in society?... of course ... but to think that must be the only motivation for people showing concern over this child is some of the dumbest shit i've ever heard



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Reply #83 posted 09/16/14 5:35am

MoBettaBliss

JustErin said:

MoBettaBliss said:



here we fucking go again

are you able to get it through your head that people might be upset that a 4 year old child was beaten, regardless of the skin colour of the person doing the beating?

you're fucking relentless dude

if this story came up about a white family i'd react exactly the same way

it's not about "how a black man whips his kids"... it's about how a man whips his kids

the person with the race focus in this is you... you wouldn't give two shits if people were up in arms about a white dude doing this


Desperation causes people to say desperate things, no matter how misguided or embarrassing it is.

There is a race relations problem in the US, absolutely...but he really has no clue what he's talking about when he says people showing concern for children (who in this particular case happens to be black) are being fake.


But it doesn't matter because just sitting there wagging your finger at people does nothing. Meanwhile there are people who do care and are actually involved in children's issues and actually contributing and making a difference.

People who take action matter, soapbox standers do not.




i agree with you

but if you're implying i'm a fence sitter in real life... you're mistaken

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Reply #84 posted 09/16/14 5:38am

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MoBettaBliss said:

JustErin said:


Desperation causes people to say desperate things, no matter how misguided or embarrassing it is.

There is a race relations problem in the US, absolutely...but he really has no clue what he's talking about when he says people showing concern for children (who in this particular case happens to be black) are being fake.


But it doesn't matter because just sitting there wagging your finger at people does nothing. Meanwhile there are people who do care and are actually involved in children's issues and actually contributing and making a difference.

People who take action matter, soapbox standers do not.




i agree with you

but if you're implying i'm a fence sitter in real life... you're mistaken


I never implied anything about you, and can't even see how you could think I did in that response. confuse

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Reply #85 posted 09/16/14 5:45am

MoBettaBliss

JustErin said:

MoBettaBliss said:


i agree with you

but if you're implying i'm a fence sitter in real life... you're mistaken


I never implied anything about you, and can't even see how you could think I did in that response. confuse



sorry... i misread

i'm honestly a bit rattled by the level of callousness and stupidity shown in this thread

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Reply #86 posted 09/16/14 5:50am

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MoBettaBliss said:

JustErin said:


I never implied anything about you, and can't even see how you could think I did in that response. confuse



sorry... i misread

i'm honestly a bit rattled by the level of callousness and stupidity shown in this thread


It's all good.

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Reply #87 posted 09/16/14 6:01am

Graycap23

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MoBettaBliss said:

Graycap23 said:

U are right.......here we go again.......because this fake ass concern never ends, just like racism never end. Consistent isn't it?



what you just said makes no sense... none... and makes you look like a fool

you have NO RIGHT to tell me the concern i have i have for a 4 year old child who was beaten until he bled isn't real... no right at all... i have a 4 year old son... this story upsets me... you don't like it?... too bad

is racism prevalent in society?... of course ... but to think that must be the only motivation for people showing concern over this child is some of the dumbest shit i've ever heard



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Humm.............why so hostile? U feel the way u feel, but guess what? So do I.

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Reply #88 posted 09/16/14 6:43am

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There are a lot of adults that were abused, but because they were told it was normal and witnessed it happening to siblings, they will now defend an abuser and call his/her behavior "normal".

At some point it must be recognized that everything that was done to you as a child doesn't make it the right thing to do now. Wounding a child permanently is NOT normal spanking. Leaving permanent scars is NOT normal spanking. Leaving a child BLOODY...IS NOT NORMAL SPANKING!!

IT IS ABUSE!!

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Reply #89 posted 09/16/14 8:12am

Stymie

HatrinaHaterwitz said:


There are a lot of adults that were abused, but because they were told it was normal and witnessed it happening to siblings, they will now defend an abuser and call his/her behavior "normal".


At some point it must be recognized that everything that was done to you as a child doesn't make it the right thing to do now. Wounding a child permanently is NOT normal spanking. Leaving permanent scars is NOT normal spanking. Leaving a child BLOODY...IS NOT NORMAL SPANKING!!


IT IS ABUSE!!



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