MoBettaBliss said:

ScarletScandal said:

Honestly, I really REALLY don't care what people do with their kids, that's their business, but things do get blown out of proportion on here just because people are so quick to jump up for or create some kind of cause bandwagon. So should we start pouring water on ourselves for this too? I could see if he shot the kid or something. Switch marks are nothing. They heal, and hopefully, the child is disciplined.

i think it's best if you never have responsibility for disciplining a child

Well, I certainly wouldn't make a child bleed. But don't worry, I don't want any of those little bastards anyway. I have better things to do with my life than deal with children. They either disappoint you or kill you. I'm good.

Stymie said:

if you draw blood when you discipline your kid, that is abuse. if he was that angry, he should have not punished the kid at that time.

I guess so.

MoBettaBliss said:

This is what is known as a dog and pony show.

In the end, he will get probation and no charges.

MoBettaBliss said:

ScarletScandal said:

Wow...I would have never thought that the whoopings I got back in the day would be considered child abuse when I became an adult. Where was all this when I was getting my ass tore up? If they were locking up parents for ass whoopings when I was a child, my mother would be sent straight to the damn chair...

this is child abuse... plain and simple

Adrian Peterson went out like Joseph Jackson on his son.

TonyVanDam said:

phunkdaddy said:

Not surprising people would sensationalize this. Did AP go a little to far yes but he admitted he did and told the mother he did when he intially did so. Anybody that knows AP he is good character guy. I'm sure that a lot of us older folks got beaten with switches and had wells on our legs to show for it. AP will be okay.

Exactly.

His trial will be 2 or 3rd quarter of next year and will end in probation.

phunkdaddy said:

Not surprising people would sensationalize this. Did AP go a little to far yes but he admitted he did and told the mother he did when he intially did so. Anybody that knows AP he is good character guy. I'm sure that a lot of us older folks got beaten with switches and had wells on our legs to show for it. AP will be okay.

Too much evidence for him to deny but if he did admit and is acknowledging the wrong he should be given some credit. I think again, it's one of those private matters (just like the casino punchout) that likely should not play out on TMZ. I'm old fashioned that way.

phunkdaddy said:

Not surprising people would sensationalize this. Did AP go a little to far yes but he admitted he did and told the mother he did when he intially did so. Anybody that knows AP he is good character guy. I'm sure that a lot of us older folks got beaten with switches and had wells on our legs to show for it. AP will be okay.

That is a four year old child. No one of good character beats a four year old child like that and stuffs the leaves from the switch in his mouth before doing so. He's got rage issues probably stemming from his own childhood and someone doing that or worse to him that need to be dealt with.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

phunkdaddy said:

Not surprising people would sensationalize this. Did AP go a little to far yes but he admitted he did and told the mother he did when he intially did so. Anybody that knows AP he is good character guy. I'm sure that a lot of us older folks got beaten with switches and had wells on our legs to show for it. AP will be okay.

a little too far?

bullshit

i have a 4 year old son.... the thought of someone doing that to him is beyond comprehension to me

being the father doesn't give him the right to do that to a child... period

what the hell is wrong with you people?

phunkdaddy said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

That is a four year old child. No one of good character beats a four year old child like that and stuffs the leaves from the switch in his mouth before doing so. He's got rage issues probably stemming from his own childhood and someone doing that or worse to him that need to be dealt with.

Unless his 11 year old comes out and complain about the same type of discipline I wouldn't call AP a monster. You're right in one sense he's only 4. I've known 4 year olds to do some bad shit. When I get a chance I'm gonna post a video of a 7 year old taking his mom's SUV and going for a joy ride and crashing it. Then he told his mom and police him and his friend wanted to do some hood rat things.

Do you know where I can find that video or could you post it here? I'm just curious about this. What hood rat activities were they trying to get involved with? lol

MoBettaBliss said:

phunkdaddy said:

Not surprising people would sensationalize this. Did AP go a little to far yes but he admitted he did and told the mother he did when he intially did so. Anybody that knows AP he is good character guy. I'm sure that a lot of us older folks got beaten with switches and had wells on our legs to show for it. AP will be okay.

a little too far?

bullshit

i have a 4 year old son.... the thought of someone doing that to him is beyond comprehension to me

being the father doesn't give him the right to do that to a child... period

what the hell is wrong with you people?

Whoever at the Minnesota Vikings front office decided to deactivate Adrian Peterson for this game needs a whoopin'.

Too soon?

At any rate, I'm on the fence about this. I've seen some parents raise their voices on their young children and yank them around, and I think the authorites need to take these kids away from those parents. Likewise, I've seen some kids act so out of control, and the parents just let them do whatever, and I feel like I need to whoop that kid's ass myself.

I know were in the generation that looks at any type of corporal punsihment as a form of child abuse, but I got a lot of punishment via the switch or belt, and I hated it at the time. But it taught me to behave the next time. I'm not sure what the situation was with Adrian Peterson and his kid, and it even appears that this indictment came after a couple of grand juries passed on this saying this was a parental issue and not child abuse. I wouldn't be surprised if this DA was some tea party right wing kook like the Ferguson Police Department trying to launch a political career going after a high profile celebrity.

SeventeenDayze said:

MoBettaBliss said:

MoBettaBliss said:

728huey said:

MoBettaBliss said:

a little too far?

bullshit

i have a 4 year old son.... the thought of someone doing that to him is beyond comprehension to me

being the father doesn't give him the right to do that to a child... period

what the hell is wrong with you people?

Whoever at the Minnesota Vikings front office decided to deactivate Adrian Peterson for this game needs a whoopin'.

Too soon?

At any rate, I'm on the fence about this. I've seen some parents raise their voices on their young children and yank them around, and I think the authorites need to take these kids away from those parents. Likewise, I've seen some kids act so out of control, and the parents just let them do whatever, and I feel like I need to whoop that kid's ass myself.

I know were in the generation that looks at any type of corporal punsihment as a form of child abuse, but I got a lot of punishment via the switch or belt, and I hated it at the time. But it taught me to behave the next time. I'm not sure what the situation was with Adrian Peterson and his kid, and it even appears that this indictment came after a couple of grand juries passed on this saying this was a parental issue and not child abuse. I wouldn't be surprised if this DA was some tea party right wing kook like the Ferguson Police Department trying to launch a political career going after a high profile celebrity.

Yeah that happens a lot. These folks see an opportunity to take a high profile celebrity through the wringer and then they launch their own "career" from the notoriety that they get. It's really pathetic but all too common and it might be what's at play here too.

SeventeenDayze said:

728huey said:

Whoever at the Minnesota Vikings front office decided to deactivate Adrian Peterson for this game needs a whoopin'.

Too soon?

At any rate, I'm on the fence about this. I've seen some parents raise their voices on their young children and yank them around, and I think the authorites need to take these kids away from those parents. Likewise, I've seen some kids act so out of control, and the parents just let them do whatever, and I feel like I need to whoop that kid's ass myself.

I know were in the generation that looks at any type of corporal punsihment as a form of child abuse, but I got a lot of punishment via the switch or belt, and I hated it at the time. But it taught me to behave the next time. I'm not sure what the situation was with Adrian Peterson and his kid, and it even appears that this indictment came after a couple of grand juries passed on this saying this was a parental issue and not child abuse. I wouldn't be surprised if this DA was some tea party right wing kook like the Ferguson Police Department trying to launch a political career going after a high profile celebrity.

Yeah that happens a lot. These folks see an opportunity to take a high profile celebrity through the wringer and then they launch their own "career" from the notoriety that they get. It's really pathetic but all too common and it might be what's at play here too.

Might be? It certainly is the case.

Graycap23 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Yeah that happens a lot. These folks see an opportunity to take a high profile celebrity through the wringer and then they launch their own "career" from the notoriety that they get. It's really pathetic but all too common and it might be what's at play here too.

Might be? It certainly is the case.

I wouldn't be surprised.

Stymie said:

Graycap23 said:

So what should his punishment be?

jail

Exactly. That is a 4 year old child. Imagine the sheer terror and pain that little one went through...by someone that is supposed to love and protect him.

He is an evil fucker.

You do this to another adult, you are charged with assault, you do this to your wife, you're charged with assault...you do this to a defenseless little child...you're "disciplining" them and actually get sympathy from some.

Anyone that feels that hitting someone - anyone as punishment is completely fucked up in the head.

phunkdaddy said:

MoBettaBliss said:

a little too far?

bullshit

i have a 4 year old son.... the thought of someone doing that to him is beyond comprehension to me

being the father doesn't give him the right to do that to a child... period

what the hell is wrong with you people?

I guess we have to agree to disagree. You don't know the facts. You just see the picture and your imagination is running wild. I've spoken to friends with kids and they have used the same form of discipline or with belts just as Huey just spoke of. If your Leave It To Beaver or Father Knows Best form of discipline works best for you so be it but let's not throw a man you know nothing about under the bus unless there is more evidence to support that there was a pattern of this form of discipline. It seems to have been a one time thing.

Here are the facts. Child is covered in injuries. Father did it. What other facts do you need?

It does not matter if it was a one time thing. You assault a co-worker, you're not going to get a first time offense pass.

What kind of bullshit is this? Saying a one time assault is excusable???

what this "guy" did was totally despicable/out of control, but really, "Child Abuse" is a VERY poor choice of words by the media, since the 99% of the population links "abuse" to "sexual rape"; "Child Brutality" seems more accurate, just sayin'; before I actually entered the thread, I assumed that that Peterson guy had raped a child...

[Edited 9/15/14 6:02am]

JustErin said:

Stymie said:

jail

Exactly. That is a 4 year old child. Imagine the sheer terror and pain that little one went through...by someone that is supposed to love and protect him.

He is an evil fucker.

You do this to another adult, you are charged with assault, you do this to your wife, you're charged with assault...you do this to a defenseless little child...you're "disciplining" them and actually get sympathy from some.

Anyone that feels that hitting someone - anyone as punishment is completely fucked up in the head.

In reality, the LAW doesn't work that way. A 1st time offender with no criminal records at best gets probation. This case is overblown and the DA in the case as well as the NFL knows it.

Did he go overboard on whipping the kid? Yes. Should it have been blown completely overboard? No. This case won't evn go 2 trial until next May/June. Why the urgency with an arrest warrant?

Graycap23 said:

JustErin said:

Exactly. That is a 4 year old child. Imagine the sheer terror and pain that little one went through...by someone that is supposed to love and protect him.

He is an evil fucker.

You do this to another adult, you are charged with assault, you do this to your wife, you're charged with assault...you do this to a defenseless little child...you're "disciplining" them and actually get sympathy from some.

Anyone that feels that hitting someone - anyone as punishment is completely fucked up in the head.

In reality, the LAW doesn't work that way. A 1st time offender with no criminal records at best gets probation. This case is overblown and the DA in the case as well as the NFL knows it.

Did he go overboard on whipping the kid? Yes. Should it have been blown completely overboard? No. This case won't evn go 2 trial until next May/June. Why the urgency with an arrest warrant?

No person has the right to place their hands on anyone in a violent way...and eventually with education and awareness of non violent methods of child raising North America will follow the 39 countries that have deemed corporal punishment by parents as unlawful.

I do not understand your point about the arrest warrant. You don't put off arrests because of someones employment requirements or celebrity status. The incident happened, the arrest should follow immediately and then a trial date should be set.

To suggest an arrest should be delayed is ridiculous.

JustErin said:

Graycap23 said:

In reality, the LAW doesn't work that way. A 1st time offender with no criminal records at best gets probation. This case is overblown and the DA in the case as well as the NFL knows it.

Did he go overboard on whipping the kid? Yes. Should it have been blown completely overboard? No. This case won't evn go 2 trial until next May/June. Why the urgency with an arrest warrant?

No person has the right to place their hands on anyone in a violent way...and eventually with education and awareness of non violent methods of child raising North America will follow the 39 countries that have deemed corporal punishment by parents as unlawful.

I do not understand your point about the arrest warrant. You don't put off arrests because of someones employment requirements or celebrity status. The incident happened, the arrest should follow immediately and then a trial date should be set.

To suggest an arrest should be delayed is ridiculous.

It was dog and pony show.

He flew to Texas, was booked, posted bail and got back on a plane. End of story.

I will never understand how anyone could look at the pictures of welts all over a four-year-old and say, "Ah, it's no big dea".

Absolutely incredible.

Anyone that draws blood out of a child (multiple times in multiple places) has a real problem, and ought to see the inside of a jail cell.

728huey said:

MoBettaBliss said:

a little too far?

bullshit

i have a 4 year old son.... the thought of someone doing that to him is beyond comprehension to me

being the father doesn't give him the right to do that to a child... period

what the hell is wrong with you people?

Whoever at the Minnesota Vikings front office decided to deactivate Adrian Peterson for this game needs a whoopin'.

Too soon?

At any rate, I'm on the fence about this. I've seen some parents raise their voices on their young children and yank them around, and I think the authorites need to take these kids away from those parents. Likewise, I've seen some kids act so out of control, and the parents just let them do whatever, and I feel like I need to whoop that kid's ass myself.

I know were in the generation that looks at any type of corporal punsihment as a form of child abuse, but I got a lot of punishment via the switch or belt, and I hated it at the time. But it taught me to behave the next time. I'm not sure what the situation was with Adrian Peterson and his kid, and it even appears that this indictment came after a couple of grand juries passed on this saying this was a parental issue and not child abuse. I wouldn't be surprised if this DA was some tea party right wing kook like the Ferguson Police Department trying to launch a political career going after a high profile celebrity.

I'm all for old school discipline, but leaving marks is crossing the line.

My maternal grandmother down south had one of those long-ass green hickory switches. She would tear your legs UP, and that switch would be cutting wind too. Back in the day, old folks didn't play. At home, Dad handled most of the discipline. We weren't spanked that often - the threat of getting hit with the belt kept us from doing too much dumb shit.

Vikings just reinstated Peterson.

uPtoWnNY said:

728huey said:

Whoever at the Minnesota Vikings front office decided to deactivate Adrian Peterson for this game needs a whoopin'.

Too soon?

At any rate, I'm on the fence about this. I've seen some parents raise their voices on their young children and yank them around, and I think the authorites need to take these kids away from those parents. Likewise, I've seen some kids act so out of control, and the parents just let them do whatever, and I feel like I need to whoop that kid's ass myself.

I know were in the generation that looks at any type of corporal punsihment as a form of child abuse, but I got a lot of punishment via the switch or belt, and I hated it at the time. But it taught me to behave the next time. I'm not sure what the situation was with Adrian Peterson and his kid, and it even appears that this indictment came after a couple of grand juries passed on this saying this was a parental issue and not child abuse. I wouldn't be surprised if this DA was some tea party right wing kook like the Ferguson Police Department trying to launch a political career going after a high profile celebrity.

I'm all for old school discipline, but leaving marks is crossing the line.

My maternal grandmother down south had one of those long-ass green hickory switches. She would tear your legs UP, and that switch would be cutting wind too. Back in the day, old folks didn't play. At home, Dad handled most of the discipline. We weren't spanked that often - the threat of getting hit with the belt kept us from doing too much dumb shit.

Vikings just reinstated Peterson.

He went way 2 far................and will be playing next week.