There was a recent article in The Village Voice about a study on teenage prostitution in New York City and it's speculated that the findings would be similar for the entire U.S. This is what was discovered:

The full article: http://www.villagevoice.c...lost-boys/

sextonseven said:

There was a recent article in The Village Voice about a study on teenage prostitution in New York City and it's speculated that the findings would be similar for the entire U.S. This is what was discovered:

• Nearly half of the kids—about 45 percent—were boys.

• Only 10 percent were involved with a "market facilitator" (e.g., a pimp).

• About 45 percent got into the "business" through friends.

• More than 90 percent were U.S.-born (56 percent were New York City natives).

• On average, they started hooking at age 15.

• Most serviced men—preferably white and wealthy.

• Most deals were struck on the street.

• Almost 70 percent of the kids said they'd sought assistance at a youth-service agency at least once.

• Nearly all of the youths—95 percent—said they exchanged sex for money because it was the surest way to support themselves.

The full article: http://www.villagevoice.c...lost-boys/

as sad as it is, doesn't surprise me

[Edited 1/11/12 8:41am]

kimrachell said:

for the men here that see hookers that have daughters, what if your daughter was a hooker? how would you feel about that? because every hooker is someone's daughter. just a thought.

That's when some good old hypocrisy would show.

JustErin said:

RodeoSchro said:

No, normal men do not consort with hookers. Losers do.

No, 85% of men have not cheated on their wives. If 85% of the guys you know have cheated on their wives, then you hang around an inordinate amount of scumbags.

Or maybe you just live in your own out-of-touch-with-the-real-world bubble.

I mean, how would you know what others are doing anyway? You really think people would confide in you, with your holier than thou, you need Jesus attitude?

Not defending cheaters, just saying you seem really out of touch a lot of the time.

i'm a christian, go to church every chance i get. but i am also not living in the dark. i realize that in my church, which has over 1,000 members, that if i look around the room at all of those people. that we are all sinners, that we are not perfect people in any way. i know that most likely there are many men in my church, and many woman that have cheated at least once on their spouse, or seen a hooker, or watch porn. does that make me happy, no, of course not. i wish we could all lead a more clean, pure life, but i know this simply is not the case no matter what church you go to, because people have their dirty little secrets that you would not imagine. and many people that attend church say one thing and do another. they have their church persona, and their real life one. i am not stupid, i know this happens a lot. the divorce rate amongst christians in church is pretty high.

but there are also people that would never cheat on their spouse at my church, that do try to the best of their ability to live a good life helping others, and are all about spending time with their family and living for God. you can't paint a broad brush and say everyone does this or that. because it's simply not true.

kimrachell said:

JustErin said:

Or maybe you just live in your own out-of-touch-with-the-real-world bubble.

I mean, how would you know what others are doing anyway? You really think people would confide in you, with your holier than thou, you need Jesus attitude?

Not defending cheaters, just saying you seem really out of touch a lot of the time.

i'm a christian, go to church every chance i get. but i am also not living in the dark. i realize that in my church, which has over 1,000 members, that if i look around the room at all of those people. that we are all sinners, that we are not perfect people in any way. i know that most likely there are many men in my church, and many woman that have cheated at least once on their spouse, or seen a hooker, or watch porn. does that make me happy, no, of course not. i wish we could all lead a more clean, pure life, but i know this simply is not the case no matter what church you go to, because people have their dirty little secrets that you would not imagine. and many people that attend church say one thing and do another. they have their church persona, and their real life one. i am not stupid, i know this happens a lot. the divorce rate amongst christians in church is pretty high.

but there are also people that would never cheat on their spouse at my church, that do try to the best of their ability to live a good life helping others, and are all about spending time with their family and living for God. you can't paint a broad brush and say everyone does this or that. because it's simply not true.

...and as your sister in Christ who also fails and (who is also realistic), I am ever so grateful for your post. Thank you, Kim.

Ottensen said:

kimrachell said:

i'm a christian, go to church every chance i get. but i am also not living in the dark. i realize that in my church, which has over 1,000 members, that if i look around the room at all of those people. that we are all sinners, that we are not perfect people in any way. i know that most likely there are many men in my church, and many woman that have cheated at least once on their spouse, or seen a hooker, or watch porn. does that make me happy, no, of course not. i wish we could all lead a more clean, pure life, but i know this simply is not the case no matter what church you go to, because people have their dirty little secrets that you would not imagine. and many people that attend church say one thing and do another. they have their church persona, and their real life one. i am not stupid, i know this happens a lot. the divorce rate amongst christians in church is pretty high.

but there are also people that would never cheat on their spouse at my church, that do try to the best of their ability to live a good life helping others, and are all about spending time with their family and living for God. you can't paint a broad brush and say everyone does this or that. because it's simply not true.

...and as your sister in Christ who also fails and (who is also realistic), I am ever so grateful for your post. Thank you, Kim.

PurpleJedi said:

bobbyperu said:

That's true, but you forgot 1 thing: booz! When you're drunk... ohwell,itcan bea wh ole different story!

When you say "been with" you obviously mean "go all the way with", correct?

I mean...does a lap dance count?

I'd like to throw something out there...and it's just my (perhaps naive) take on the matter...but I would say that LONELINESS is a bigger factor than booze. Alcohol to many is a mask for the loneliness.

happy.

So...I guess what I'm saying is...as long as there are lonely men...especially when they're drunk & horny...there will be a need for hookers.

Makes absolute sense to me...much more sense than just saying a majority of men have done it just because...

prostitution can be a nightmare: dangerous, cruel, brutal, illegal, disgusting, dirty, etc

but high class prostitution is a whole different world, and I'm talking about female AND male prostitution...

there's nothing wrong with a UNMARRInED man or woman who hires (once in a while) the services of a high class female/male prostitute/gigolo

[Edited 1/11/12 11:40am]

A majority of men have NOT hired a prostitute. To make such a claim is ludicrous, preposterous, ridiculous and lacking any basis is fact.

Even if you assume that the figures are higher because some men do not wish to speak honestly regarding such habbits, it's still not even close to a majority.

Please, by all means, continue with your unfounded man hate. That's what the world expects at this point. Why be any different? Keep those evil men in check.

Lastly, a man cheating on his spouse does not mean he's seeing a prostitute. Unless you consider those women willing to sleep with a married man without payment to be hookers.

The internet is you friend, learn to use it.

"According to the most recent survey data (University of Chicago Life and Health Study), about 16% of men in the US have visited a prostitute at least once in their lifetime. About 1% of men are patronizing prostitutes at any given time."

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Or...

http://prostitution.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004119

We drew the information presented below about the male clients (johns) of prostitutes worldwide from 21 studies conducted between 1994 and 2010. We included the only 15 countries for which we found data on men paying for sex at least once in their lifetimes. We excluded countries for which we could only locate findings on paid sex during the previous year. When we located a range of estimates for one country, we listed the highest and lowest percentages found. Researchers investigating prostitutes' clientele have reported difficulty finding reliable data because of a scarcity of prior research, variations in sample sizes, and possible underreporting by survey respondents about their private sexual practices.

Additional information...

United States:

"While earlier studies with methodological limitations have found 69% (Kinsey et al., 1948) to 80% (Benjamin and Masters, 1964) of American men to have engaged in commercial sex, more recent studies with representative sampling have found much lower - but still substantial - rates in the range of 15% to 20%...

While men who solicit prostitution are not atypical demographically or in terms of criminal history, they are unsurprisingly and measurably different in terms of a range of attitudes toward women, relationships, and commercial sex... [C]onsumers were less likely to be happily married than men in national samples, to have sexually liberal attitudes (e.g., to view premarital sex, sex among minors, and homosexuality as acceptable), and to think about sex more often. Commercial sex participants were also less likely to have been sexually molested as children, or to report having forced women into sexual acts. The differences between samples were not large, but were statistically significant."

Abt Associates Inc., "Final Report on the Evaluation of the First Offender Prostitution Program," Prepared for Karen Bachar, Office of Research and Evaluation, National Institute of Justice, March 7, 2008

"Contact [with prostitutes] is higher among those living in metropolitan areas, Blacks, those with lower incomes, veterans (probably when in military service), those who attend church less frequently, and those having gone through a divorce or are currently separated. Among married men paying for sex during the last 12 months is strongly related to low marital happiness."

Tom W. Smith, "American Sexual Behavior: Trends, Socio-Demographic Differences, and Risk Behavior," General Social Survey (GSS) Project at the National Opinion Research Center, University of Chicago, Mar. 2006

Link to the Final Report ...te Program

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Or... In Canada....

http://rabble.ca/babble/introductions/one-nine-men-hire-prostitutes-want-talk-about-it

One in nine men hire prostitutes: Reporter (Cerebus would point out that one in nine is less than 15%)

by Thane Burnett, Niagara Falls Review, April 13, 2009

Look down your street. And count. Now do the math.

If Victor Malarek's numbers are spot on, you may have to reevaluate your
neighbors. At least every ninth home.

And if the veteran investigative journalist's new book crosses your own
doorstep, you may have to do some soul searching, on how the personal
business of those people on your block -- or men around you -- may impact a
just world.

Malarek's new book, The Johns: Sex For Sale and the Men Who Buy It, released
Tuesday through Key Porter Books, is a follow-up to The Natashas, his last
angry and pointed expose on the world's most sordid trade. His new work
argues that too many average guys see sex-for-hire as "boys being boys."

But for the women involved, it's not often a career choice, but a
complicated form of economic or very real enslavement.

This time around, Malarek traces the steps of their clients, and a society
which dismisses it all as a victimless crime, and a trade as old as time.

But the dismal picture Malarek -- a senior reporter for CTV's current
affairs show W-Five-- draws is a strong argument for not letting the
commerce of basic instinct, and especially the men who fund it, off the hook
so easily.

"It's not simply the oldest profession," says Malarek, over the phone from
his home in Toronto. "It's ... oppression."

Malarek estimates over 10 million women and children - including here in
Canada -- are enslaved in the $20 billion international sex trade industry.
And that while the economy is on the skids, the ranks of sellers and buyers
of skin are increasing at an alarming rate.

How do those numbers make their way to your street? Malarek believes one in
nine Canadian males frequent prostitutes.

And while we may tell ourselves most of the women are making a choice,
research, says the author, has found upwards of 96 per cent of the
prostitutes would rather be doing something else with their bodies and
lives.

In The Johns, Malarek traces the lives of the men who pay for sex -- from
the lonely to the crippled to the angry. And he concludes: "Without man,
there would be no demand. There would be no supply. It would not be
profitable for pimps and criminals to stay in this business if never-ending
platoons of men weren't prowling the side streets in search of purchased
sex."

While we all seem more concerned with terrorism and criminals in financial
towers, Malarek found, on the black market, prostitutes are the third most
profitable commodity, after illegal weapons and drugs.

"There's a lot of people with their heads buried in the sand," he explains.
"We don't like to think of these women as real human beings."

It's the prostitutes who most often get the police and courts attention,
while the Johns, the author fumes: "They get to zip up their pants and just
stroll off."

Consider, he says, the age of prostitutes gets younger and younger around
the world, while the lines of Johns get longer and longer.

Even the downturn in the economy doesn't help them ease up. While overseas
sex tourism has reportedly been impacted, Johns have realized tough times
mean they can ask for cut rates on degradation.

"This, for me, is one of the biggest human rights disasters on the planet,"
Malarek's says.

And, judging by his harsh numbers, it likely starts on your street.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Or....

http://www.nomas.org/node/179

About 16% of adult men in the United States acknowledge having at some time been johns (Monto, 2004).

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Or....

JoeTyler said:

prostitution can be a nightmare: dangerous, cruel, brutal, illegal, disgusting, dirty, etc

but high class prostitution is a whole different world, and I'm talking about female AND male prostitution...

there's nothing wrong with a UNMARRInED man or woman who hires (once in a while) the services of a high class female/male prostitute/gigolo

[Edited 1/11/12 11:40am]

Define high class. Where do you draw the line? And what makes the difference? Are low class prostitutes not good enough?

Objectifying people to sexual aids just doesn't seem right to me. And the majority of prostitutes, including the "high class" have been subject to sexual abuse in their childhood. They are re-enacting the horrifics because they don't know better. They have never had the experience of physical integrety. By hiring these ladies (and sometimes men) one subjects her into the same premises of (ab)use.

And how can you know she or he isn't abused into the profession? Even if she is highclass? She would always deny it when asked. So, do you have a great trick to know if she is not abused and/or in a extremely vulnerable situation that makes her sell her body to everyone who wants her?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I've yet to meet a man who's admitted being with a prostitute. All I know, is that there are a whole lot of prostitutes, ranging from your I'll suck you for $5 at your local Jack in the Box, to your it'll cost you a few thousand to take me on a date, to believe that only a handful of men are keeping these folks in business. Business is big and bills (and habits) are getting paid, heck they're even shipping (kidnapping) them in by the boatload to keep up with demand. Something just ain't balancing out.

There is nothing wrong with the profession in my opinion, IF the person in question chooses him/herself to make money that way out of free will and is in no way forced by an other person to do so.

I have had sex with an escort boy once, purely because I was curious. The sex was great, so I was happy, he got paid and got off so he was happy too.

dJJ said:

JoeTyler said:

prostitution can be a nightmare: dangerous, cruel, brutal, illegal, disgusting, dirty, etc

but high class prostitution is a whole different world, and I'm talking about female AND male prostitution...

there's nothing wrong with a UNMARRInED man or woman who hires (once in a while) the services of a high class female/male prostitute/gigolo

[Edited 1/11/12 11:40am]

Define high class. Where do you draw the line? And what makes the difference? Are low class prostitutes not good enough?

Objectifying people to sexual aids just doesn't seem right to me. And the majority of prostitutes, including the "high class" have been subject to sexual abuse in their childhood. They are re-enacting the horrifics because they don't know better. They have never had the experience of physical integrety. By hiring these ladies (and sometimes men) one subjects her into the same premises of (ab)use.

And how can you know she or he isn't abused into the profession? Even if she is highclass? She would always deny it when asked. So, do you have a great trick to know if she is not abused and/or in a extremely vulnerable situation that makes her sell her body to everyone who wants her?

Don't forget that some of the men doing the hiring may have been abused as well and are part of the cycle of abuse. The women are objectifying the men as well.

kimrachell said:

for the men here that see hookers that have daughters, what if your daughter was a hooker? how would you feel about that? because every hooker is someone's daughter. just a thought.

And every John is someones son. If the implication is that men are taking advantage of hookers, don't you think it cuts both ways?

Those charts are just estimates. Prostituion is illegal in many parts of the U.S but they still do it.

aardvark15 said:

Those charts are just estimates. Prostituion is illegal in many parts of the U.S but they still do it.

So then I'm assuming you don't believe any statistics about drug use, teenage sex, underage drinking and smoking or unsolved crimes are real, either? Your argument makes no sense.

ConsciousContact said:

kimrachell said:

for the men here that see hookers that have daughters, what if your daughter was a hooker? how would you feel about that? because every hooker is someone's daughter. just a thought.

And every John is someones son. If the implication is that men are taking advantage of hookers, don't you think it cuts both ways?

In the case of your standard 3am girl, definitely not. Could you look at situations like these in the doc below and truly believe this?

http://www.putlocker.com/file/3350F0F577697951

[Edited 1/11/12 13:22pm]

Cerebus said:

A majority of men have NOT hired a prostitute. To make such a claim is ludicrous, preposterous, ridiculous and lacking any basis is fact.

Even if you assume that the figures are higher because some men do not wish to speak honestly regarding such habbits, it's still not even close to a majority.

Please, by all means, continue with your unfounded man hate. That's what the world expects at this point. Why be any different? Keep those evil men in check.

Lastly, a man cheating on his spouse does not mean he's seeing a prostitute. Unless you consider those women willing to sleep with a married man without payment to be hookers.

The internet is you friend, learn to use it.

"According to the most recent survey data (University of Chicago Life and Health Study), about 16% of men in the US have visited a prostitute at least once in their lifetime. About 1% of men are patronizing prostitutes at any given time."

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Or...

http://prostitution.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004119

Percentage of Men (by Country) Who Paid for Sex at Least Once: The Johns Chart

We drew the information presented below about the male clients (johns) of prostitutes worldwide from 21 studies conducted between 1994 and 2010. We included the only 15 countries for which we found data on men paying for sex at least once in their lifetimes. We excluded countries for which we could only locate findings on paid sex during the previous year. When we located a range of estimates for one country, we listed the highest and lowest percentages found. Researchers investigating prostitutes' clientele have reported difficulty finding reliable data because of a scarcity of prior research, variations in sample sizes, and possible underreporting by survey respondents about their private sexual practices.

Additional information...

United States:

"While earlier studies with methodological limitations have found 69% (Kinsey et al., 1948) to 80% (Benjamin and Masters, 1964) of American men to have engaged in commercial sex, more recent studies with representative sampling have found much lower - but still substantial - rates in the range of 15% to 20%...

While men who solicit prostitution are not atypical demographically or in terms of criminal history, they are unsurprisingly and measurably different in terms of a range of attitudes toward women, relationships, and commercial sex... [C]onsumers were less likely to be happily married than men in national samples, to have sexually liberal attitudes (e.g., to view premarital sex, sex among minors, and homosexuality as acceptable), and to think about sex more often. Commercial sex participants were also less likely to have been sexually molested as children, or to report having forced women into sexual acts. The differences between samples were not large, but were statistically significant."

Abt Associates Inc., "Final Report on the Evaluation of the First Offender Prostitution Program," Prepared for Karen Bachar, Office of Research and Evaluation, National Institute of Justice, March 7, 2008

"Contact [with prostitutes] is higher among those living in metropolitan areas, Blacks, those with lower incomes, veterans (probably when in military service), those who attend church less frequently, and those having gone through a divorce or are currently separated. Among married men paying for sex during the last 12 months is strongly related to low marital happiness."

Tom W. Smith, "American Sexual Behavior: Trends, Socio-Demographic Differences, and Risk Behavior," General Social Survey (GSS) Project at the National Opinion Research Center, University of Chicago, Mar. 2006

Link to the Final Report ...te Program

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Or... In Canada....

http://rabble.ca/babble/introductions/one-nine-men-hire-prostitutes-want-talk-about-it

April 13, 2009 - 9:00pm

One in nine men hire prostitutes: Reporter (Cerebus would point out that one in nine is less than 15%)

by Thane Burnett, Niagara Falls Review, April 13, 2009

Look down your street. And count. Now do the math.

If Victor Malarek's numbers are spot on, you may have to reevaluate your
neighbors. At least every ninth home.

And if the veteran investigative journalist's new book crosses your own
doorstep, you may have to do some soul searching, on how the personal
business of those people on your block -- or men around you -- may impact a
just world.

Malarek's new book, The Johns: Sex For Sale and the Men Who Buy It, released
Tuesday through Key Porter Books, is a follow-up to The Natashas, his last
angry and pointed expose on the world's most sordid trade. His new work
argues that too many average guys see sex-for-hire as "boys being boys."

But for the women involved, it's not often a career choice, but a
complicated form of economic or very real enslavement.

This time around, Malarek traces the steps of their clients, and a society
which dismisses it all as a victimless crime, and a trade as old as time.

But the dismal picture Malarek -- a senior reporter for CTV's current
affairs show W-Five-- draws is a strong argument for not letting the
commerce of basic instinct, and especially the men who fund it, off the hook
so easily.

"It's not simply the oldest profession," says Malarek, over the phone from
his home in Toronto. "It's ... oppression."

Malarek estimates over 10 million women and children - including here in
Canada -- are enslaved in the $20 billion international sex trade industry.
And that while the economy is on the skids, the ranks of sellers and buyers
of skin are increasing at an alarming rate.

How do those numbers make their way to your street? Malarek believes one in
nine Canadian males frequent prostitutes.

And while we may tell ourselves most of the women are making a choice,
research, says the author, has found upwards of 96 per cent of the
prostitutes would rather be doing something else with their bodies and
lives.

In The Johns, Malarek traces the lives of the men who pay for sex -- from
the lonely to the crippled to the angry. And he concludes: "Without man,
there would be no demand. There would be no supply. It would not be
profitable for pimps and criminals to stay in this business if never-ending
platoons of men weren't prowling the side streets in search of purchased
sex."

While we all seem more concerned with terrorism and criminals in financial
towers, Malarek found, on the black market, prostitutes are the third most
profitable commodity, after illegal weapons and drugs.

"There's a lot of people with their heads buried in the sand," he explains.
"We don't like to think of these women as real human beings."

It's the prostitutes who most often get the police and courts attention,
while the Johns, the author fumes: "They get to zip up their pants and just
stroll off."

Consider, he says, the age of prostitutes gets younger and younger around
the world, while the lines of Johns get longer and longer.

Even the downturn in the economy doesn't help them ease up. While overseas
sex tourism has reportedly been impacted, Johns have realized tough times
mean they can ask for cut rates on degradation.

"This, for me, is one of the biggest human rights disasters on the planet,"
Malarek's says.

And, judging by his harsh numbers, it likely starts on your street.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Or....

http://www.nomas.org/node/179

About 16% of adult men in the United States acknowledge having at some time been johns (Monto, 2004).

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Or....

Thank you for those figures. I also found a study of around 20% in England*.

I'm not a man hater. I even have men among my friends . I enjoy their company and even having sex with them.

I do worry about the bad position, financially, socially and physically of women compared to men. And what angers me is the denial of that fact. I don't understand why I would be a manhater when I express my concern about the high vulnerability of women to become (sexually) victimized by men. That's a reality and an issue that I care about. I perceive myself as someone who believes in standing up for womenrights and continued improvement of their position, in stead of be silent and silence about the reality of women's positions. It seems that being a feminist is a socially very unacceptable. Why?

It's interesting how on the org some women have attacked me as being a man hater. Whereas men overhere seem to seriously think about- and discuss the raised issues. And make jokes if they think I exceggerate. They have never attacked me for my opinions.

And my estimate of 'once in a life time' is very high. Yes, admittedly. However, if it's the third most profitable commodity, there have to be a lot of clients, right? Next to very cheap labor prices. So, could that be sustainable with 1 out of 5 man visiting prostitutes? Maybe.

Boundaries of what prostitutions seem to change. Where a 'lapdance' supposed to be without contact, general knowledge is that girls in order to make money, they have to accept men sticking up their finger in them or touching them.

I think most women would feel cheated on by their spouse if he would have visited a prostitute or touched a stripper or lapdancer. However, to me that is not a very interesting discussion.

I think it's brave that a few orgers over here talk about their experiences and are open to discuss the matter. It's not about you are a man and therefore a bad human being.

To me it's about discussing that there is a worldwide HUGE industry of exploitation of females for sex. In all different forms and modities. The exploitation and agression exists by this worldwide market. And these men all have different motivations, however, somehow, don't seem to feel enough guilt, disgust or revulsion against this industry to stop it by not participating themselves.

It seems that there is commonly are more concerns about child labour then child/women prostitution. And that worries me.

I'm reading the book "Living Dolls" by Natasha Walter. I wholeheartedly recommend it to everybody. Male and female, gay and straight.

MacDaddy said:

There is nothing wrong with the profession in my opinion, IF the person in question chooses him/herself to make money that way out of free will and is in no way forced by an other person to do so.

I have had sex with an escort boy once, purely because I was curious. The sex was great, so I was happy, he got paid and got off so he was happy too.

Okay, there's one.

But personally, I wouldn't expect folks to start raising their hands, especially in this type of forum.

Me, I just don't feel that naive that folks that claim not to have done something, haven't, whether it be drugs, stealing, or any other deemingly "anti-social" behavior. But oddly for the most part I take people at their word and leave it at that.

MacDaddy said:

There is nothing wrong with the profession in my opinion, IF the person in question chooses him/herself to make money that way out of free will and is in no way forced by an other person to do so.

I have had sex with an escort boy once, purely because I was curious. The sex was great, so I was happy, he got paid and got off so he was happy too.

THANKS for this reply, I mean it

I can't believe some of the answers here

I just can't...

JoeTyler said:

MacDaddy said:

There is nothing wrong with the profession in my opinion, IF the person in question chooses him/herself to make money that way out of free will and is in no way forced by an other person to do so.

I have had sex with an escort boy once, purely because I was curious. The sex was great, so I was happy, he got paid and got off so he was happy too.

THANKS for this reply, I mean it

You're welcome!

It's a terrible shame that there is a lot of shadiness going around in that business. And I condemn people who force anyone to prostitute them selves. But if someone chooses that profession, who am I to judge them?

When I was a teenager I had a girl friend whom's mom was a 'madam', and they had a brothel at home. The girls working there were absolutely golden. And I learned from an early age to respect them for what they did.

My circle of friends is pretty diverse and some of my friends work as escorts. They're just normal, honest people. And I love them.

MacDaddy said:

When I was a teenager I had a girl friend whom's mom was a 'madam', and they had a brothel at home. The girls working there were absolutely golden. And I learned from an early age to respect them for what they did.

My circle of friends is pretty diverse and some of my friends work as escorts. They're just normal, honest people. And I love them.

MacDaddy said:

It's a terrible shame that there is a lot of shadiness going around in that business. And I condemn people who force anyone to prostitute them selves. But if someone chooses that profession, who am I to judge them?

in the end, it's all about the old "what doesn't work for me, MUSTN'T work for anybody else"

JoeTyler said:

in the end, it's all about the old "what doesn't work for me, MUSTN'T work for anybody else"

And there you have it!

Cerebus said:

aardvark15 said:

Those charts are just estimates. Prostituion is illegal in many parts of the U.S but they still do it.

So then I'm assuming you don't believe any statistics about drug use, teenage sex, underage drinking and smoking or unsolved crimes are real, either? Your argument makes no sense.

Nope, not really.

aardvark15 said:

Cerebus said:

So then I'm assuming you don't believe any statistics about drug use, teenage sex, underage drinking and smoking or unsolved crimes are real, either? Your argument makes no sense.

Nope, not really.

"Nope, not really," meaning you don't believe any crime statistics are accurate?

[Edited 1/12/12 8:35am]

novabrkr said:

85% of men can't afford having sex with hookers in today's economy.

Ever heard of the $2 ho?

Militant said:

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Men who have to resort to paying women for sex says a lot about their character, if you ask me.

Exactly. You'd have to have an extremely low moral compass to ignore the fact that the majority of the sex industry is ridiculously exploitative and just plain evil. Most of the women in it are either literally forced into it (human trafficking) or forced into it through financial issues.

I find it abhorrent to the point where I probably wouldn't associate with anyone I knew who did it. It's just really not acceptable behaviour to me.

Men who hook up with hookers don't think about that. That's the last thing on their minds. It's all about getting in, getting off then getting out. Bear in mind that most hookers don't recite a sob story about their introduction to the profession. They simply stick their hand out for the cash then disrobe.

dseann said:

Militant said:

Exactly. You'd have to have an extremely low moral compass to ignore the fact that the majority of the sex industry is ridiculously exploitative and just plain evil. Most of the women in it are either literally forced into it (human trafficking) or forced into it through financial issues.

I find it abhorrent to the point where I probably wouldn't associate with anyone I knew who did it. It's just really not acceptable behaviour to me.

Men who hook up with hookers don't think about that. That's the last thing on their minds. It's all about getting in, getting off then getting out. Bear in mind that most hookers don't recite a sob story about their introduction to the profession. They simply stick their hand out for the cash then disrobe.

Yeah, simplistically it is selfishness and greed on both sides.

ConsciousContact said:

dseann said:

Men who hook up with hookers don't think about that. That's the last thing on their minds. It's all about getting in, getting off then getting out. Bear in mind that most hookers don't recite a sob story about their introduction to the profession. They simply stick their hand out for the cash then disrobe.

Yeah, simplistically it is selfishness and greed on both sides.

It's free enterprise. An exchange of goods for services rendered.