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Reply #240 posted 03/19/16 10:34am

mjscarousal

MattyJam said:

SoulAlive said:

zebz said: When stuff like this happens,she simply runs and hides.It would be so much better if she would just explain what's going on.Fans are usually very forgiving and understanding.Being evasive just makes it worse.

To be fair to Janet, saying "I only sold 3,231 seats in a venue capacity of 18,000" is not really going to make her look very good. What do you expect her to do?

It still doesn't make her look good now either and people still know the real reason why anyway. What she should have did was addressed the fans and apologized. Instead, she said nothing.

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Reply #241 posted 03/19/16 11:04am

alphastreet

Maybe Europe had no idea she was even back. She was bigger on this side. Look at the chart numbers. She could have pushed promo there more and would have had better numbers or smaller venues, whatever
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Reply #242 posted 03/19/16 11:13am

zebz

alphastreet said:

Maybe Europe had no idea she was even back. She was bigger on this side. Look at the chart numbers. She could have pushed promo there more and would have had better numbers or smaller venues, whatever

There was virtually no promo for this era anywhere. She was operating mostly on word of mouth in the states. Which clearly ran out of steam quickly. smh

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Reply #243 posted 03/19/16 11:45am

SoulAlive

MattyJam said:

SoulAlive said:

zebz said: When stuff like this happens,she simply runs and hides.It would be so much better if she would just explain what's going on.Fans are usually very forgiving and understanding.Being evasive just makes it worse.

To be fair to Janet, saying "I only sold 3,231 seats in a venue capacity of 18,000" is not really going to make her look very good. What do you expect her to do?

True....but she could have prevented this whole fiasco by simply scheduling those dates in small venues.As I recall,she did the 'Number Ones' tour in small venues and had no problems at all.

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Reply #244 posted 03/19/16 12:23pm

mancabdriver

SoulAlive said:



MattyJam said:




SoulAlive said:


zebz said: When stuff like this happens,she simply runs and hides.It would be so much better if she would just explain what's going on.Fans are usually very forgiving and understanding.Being evasive just makes it worse.


To be fair to Janet, saying "I only sold 3,231 seats in a venue capacity of 18,000" is not really going to make her look very good. What do you expect her to do?




True....but she could have prevented this whole fiasco by simply scheduling those dates in small venues.As I recall,she did the 'Number Ones' tour in small venues and had no problems at all.






She could have carried on with the arena tour in big cities like Paris, Berlin and London where she was selling fine, but cancelled or booked smaller venues in Lithuania and Estonia ( what black r&b star is big there?)

Or she could have simply done promotion.

God knows what was going through Janet and her team's mind when they booked the European tour.
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Reply #245 posted 03/19/16 12:46pm

Cinny

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SoulAlive said:

MattyJam said:

To be fair to Janet, saying "I only sold 3,231 seats in a venue capacity of 18,000" is not really going to make her look very good. What do you expect her to do?

True....but she could have prevented this whole fiasco by simply scheduling those dates in small venues.As I recall,she did the 'Number Ones' tour in small venues and had no problems at all.

Real talk. I wonder why they didn't at least START there.

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Reply #246 posted 03/19/16 1:45pm

SoulAlive

Cinny said:

SoulAlive said:

True....but she could have prevented this whole fiasco by simply scheduling those dates in small venues.As I recall,she did the 'Number Ones' tour in small venues and had no problems at all.

Real talk. I wonder why they didn't at least START there.

Her team is clueless.She needs to fire some people.

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Reply #247 posted 03/19/16 5:21pm

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She needs to call Rene. Maybe he wasn't a good husband, but he was a good business partner with her. And yes I realize he hasn't worked with anybody since her, but he seemed to know what the fans wanted. Whether anyone wants to admit it he was a key ingredients to her team. Jam and Lewis used to praise him before things went sour with him and Janet. I distinctly remember Jam saying he has an interesting "ear" toward things and about being visual. I know after they split Jam said he never wrote anything which is probably true, but that doesn't mean he didn't contribute in other ways. All I know is Janet was at her strongest when it was the four of them. '86 to '98. This new album is amazing, but everything else about this era has been poor.
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Reply #248 posted 03/20/16 10:31am

deeplove

5 years since the RAH shows. If Mariah can do it right now Janet could have, if she tried.

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Reply #249 posted 03/20/16 3:00pm

zebz

deeplove said:

5 years since the RAH shows. If Mariah can do it right now Janet could have, if she tried.

RAH?

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Reply #250 posted 03/20/16 3:23pm

deeplove

zebz said:

deeplove said:

5 years since the RAH shows. If Mariah can do it right now Janet could have, if she tried.

RAH?

Royal albert hall.

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Reply #251 posted 03/20/16 3:57pm

mjscarousal

SoulAlive said:

Cinny said:

Real talk. I wonder why they didn't at least START there.

Her team is clueless.She needs to fire some people.

ASAP!!!!!

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Reply #252 posted 03/20/16 3:59pm

mjscarousal

automatic said:

She needs to call Rene. Maybe he wasn't a good husband, but he was a good business partner with her. And yes I realize he hasn't worked with anybody since her, but he seemed to know what the fans wanted. Whether anyone wants to admit it he was a key ingredients to her team. Jam and Lewis used to praise him before things went sour with him and Janet. I distinctly remember Jam saying he has an interesting "ear" toward things and about being visual. I know after they split Jam said he never wrote anything which is probably true, but that doesn't mean he didn't contribute in other ways. All I know is Janet was at her strongest when it was the four of them. '86 to '98. This new album is amazing, but everything else about this era has been poor.

I agree with this...but I also think Jam is lying because Janet herself said Rene helped her write RN, Janet and VR. He even has some credits as well and there are alot of songs he is not credited on which AGAIN Janet said herself.

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Reply #253 posted 03/20/16 8:28pm

Scorp

Janet got a whole population in flux but the population cant see it

She got the upper hand when it seems like she losing momentum
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Reply #254 posted 03/20/16 8:45pm

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Well, the fact is, we just don't know what's going on.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #255 posted 03/20/16 8:47pm

Scorp

purplethunder3121 said:

Well, the fact is, we just don't know what's going on.

that's the point

I could say what's really up but I'm a see if another person will point it out

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Reply #256 posted 03/20/16 9:33pm

alphastreet

Do you think there is an mj connection scorp?
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Reply #257 posted 03/21/16 4:44am

Scorp

alphastreet said:

Do you think there is an mj connection scorp?

biggrin biggrin biggrin

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Reply #258 posted 03/21/16 5:01am

KCOOLMUZIQ

Another person use to cancel tours & publicly revealed that he hated touring then go into hiding. Wonder who?

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #259 posted 03/21/16 5:33am

alphastreet

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Another person use to cancel tours & publicly revealed that he hated touring then go into hiding. Wonder who?



Well I did post patterns of weird reports and slick incidences earlier. I hope nothing happens to Janet but do you think she's planning something no one knows about?
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Reply #260 posted 03/21/16 5:52am

KCOOLMUZIQ

Janet already said she is rescheduling her European dates. Plus the U.S. leg of her tour is still intact. I really wish people would leave her alone. It's not like she canceled the whole tour.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #261 posted 03/21/16 6:17am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Janet already said she is rescheduling her European dates. Plus the U.S. leg of her tour is still intact. I really wish people would leave her alone. It's not like she canceled the whole tour.

You're right. People who've paid hundreds (possibley thousands) for flights and accomodation should just get over it.

[Edited 3/21/16 6:18am]

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Reply #262 posted 03/21/16 6:33am

KCOOLMUZIQ

bluegangsta said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Janet already said she is rescheduling her European dates. Plus the U.S. leg of her tour is still intact. I really wish people would leave her alone. It's not like she canceled the whole tour.

You're right. People who've paid hundreds (possibley thousands) for flights and accomodation should just get over it.

[Edited 3/21/16 6:18am]

rolleyes

Whenever you purchase concert tickets with the intent of flying thousands of miles away, with hotel accommodations, you risk ANY artist canceling. That's life! Everything isn't meant to happen.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #263 posted 03/21/16 6:52am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

bluegangsta said:

You're right. People who've paid hundreds (possibley thousands) for flights and accomodation should just get over it.

[Edited 3/21/16 6:18am]

rolleyes

Whenever you purchase concert tickets with the intent of flying thousands of miles away, with hotel accommodations, you risk ANY artist canceling. That's life! Everything isn't meant to happen.

And those fans don't deserve any explinations? What a contemptable attitude.

It seems Janet or Prince could repetedly kick you in the face and you'd still voulentarily bow before them. The only thing you overuse more than delusional justifications and horrendous grammar is that emoticon.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #264 posted 03/21/16 6:55am

alphastreet

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

bluegangsta said:

You're right. People who've paid hundreds (possibley thousands) for flights and accomodation should just get over it.

[Edited 3/21/16 6:18am]

rolleyes

Whenever you purchase concert tickets with the intent of flying thousands of miles away, with hotel accommodations, you risk ANY artist canceling. That's life! Everything isn't meant to happen.

You have no empathy whatsoever for anyone but yourself. I see why people criticize you for being a stan, it's not supposed to take away caring for other human beings and choosing someone who doesn't give a shit about you daily over people's legitimate concerns. Janet has done this more than once so I understand the concerns, and she has also done things that have WORKED in her favour which people in this thread have pointed out, but you're choosing to ignore those posts cause you just love to fight with people.

About janet, things are not adding up in the reports. Her statement reads I do not have cancer. I'm recovering.....That can mean a LOT of things, who knows the truth really? She's been private always. She talks about rescheduling Euro dates, I find that very hard to believe, considering everyone got a refund. So now people have lost good seats and may not get good ones back or some may all together not see her at all when they were supposed to without being honored for the last time? I really think janet did care about fans and definitely would have said again to hang onto tickets until further notice if this was really happening. I honestly hope you guys get to see her, but I can't see it happening.

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[Edited 3/21/16 6:57am]

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Reply #265 posted 03/21/16 8:46am

KCOOLMUZIQ

alphastreet said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rolleyes

Whenever you purchase concert tickets with the intent of flying thousands of miles away, with hotel accommodations, you risk ANY artist canceling. That's life! Everything isn't meant to happen.

You have no empathy whatsoever for anyone but yourself. I see why people criticize you for being a stan, it's not supposed to take away caring for other human beings and choosing someone who doesn't give a shit about you daily over people's legitimate concerns. Janet has done this more than once so I understand the concerns, and she has also done things that have WORKED in her favour which people in this thread have pointed out, but you're choosing to ignore those posts cause you just love to fight with people.

About janet, things are not adding up in the reports. Her statement reads I do not have cancer. I'm recovering.....That can mean a LOT of things, who knows the truth really? She's been private always. She talks about rescheduling Euro dates, I find that very hard to believe, considering everyone got a refund. So now people have lost good seats and may not get good ones back or some may all together not see her at all when they were supposed to without being honored for the last time? I really think janet did care about fans and definitely would have said again to hang onto tickets until further notice if this was really happening. I honestly hope you guys get to see her, but I can't see it happening.

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[Edited 3/21/16 6:57am]

Well I saw her last year. Hopefully will see her again on the second leg in May & JuLY. I'm sure she will be even better than last year. She loves it here. biggrin

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #266 posted 03/21/16 8:52am

KCOOLMUZIQ

bluegangsta said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rolleyes

Whenever you purchase concert tickets with the intent of flying thousands of miles away, with hotel accommodations, you risk ANY artist canceling. That's life! Everything isn't meant to happen.

And those fans don't deserve any explinations? What a contemptable attitude.

It seems Janet or Prince could repetedly kick you in the face and you'd still voulentarily bow before them. The only thing you overuse more than delusional justifications and horrendous grammar is that emoticon.

rolleyes

You talk about my grammer? What about your HORRENDOUS spelling!!

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #267 posted 03/21/16 8:52am

alphastreet

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

alphastreet said:

You have no empathy whatsoever for anyone but yourself. I see why people criticize you for being a stan, it's not supposed to take away caring for other human beings and choosing someone who doesn't give a shit about you daily over people's legitimate concerns. Janet has done this more than once so I understand the concerns, and she has also done things that have WORKED in her favour which people in this thread have pointed out, but you're choosing to ignore those posts cause you just love to fight with people.

About janet, things are not adding up in the reports. Her statement reads I do not have cancer. I'm recovering.....That can mean a LOT of things, who knows the truth really? She's been private always. She talks about rescheduling Euro dates, I find that very hard to believe, considering everyone got a refund. So now people have lost good seats and may not get good ones back or some may all together not see her at all when they were supposed to without being honored for the last time? I really think janet did care about fans and definitely would have said again to hang onto tickets until further notice if this was really happening. I honestly hope you guys get to see her, but I can't see it happening.

[Edited 3/21/16 6:56am]

[Edited 3/21/16 6:57am]

Well I saw her last year. Hopefully will see her again on the second leg in May & JuLY. I'm sure she will be even better than last year. She loves it here. biggrin

Yes, we can both agree you were not inconvenienced, therefore it doesn't matter if others are, because it's all about you and your janet devotion. My show is still on, but I'm also worried because of MY accomodations, not just me but the others coming with me putting their lives aside to see her and make the trip.

[Edited 3/21/16 8:54am]

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Reply #268 posted 03/21/16 9:41am

KCOOLMUZIQ

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #269 posted 03/21/16 9:52am

KCOOLMUZIQ

No Sleeep – Single of the Year | Classic Pop 2016 Awards

Janet Jackson wins SINGLE OF THE YEAR - No Sleeep Classic Pop Magazine Awards 2016. Interview with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis

Unbreakable indeed. Classic Pop is a music magazine that every year shares a special Award Edition to celebrate the most inspiring music of the last 12 months. Categories include Best Album, Single, Film, Breakthrough Artist of the Year and more! The 2016 Awards Edition are about to be release and we already know Janet won SINGLE OF THE YEAR with the #1 hit ‘No Sleeep’!

The issue includes an new exclusive interview with producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, talking about their careers, awards and favorite jams. Here’s the transcription of the part where they talked about Janet and the No Sleeep recording process:

Janet Jackson’s first single in five years was an absorbingly cool, hook-laden reconnection with long-term collaborators Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis…
Can you tell us the story behind No Sleeep?

JIMMY: It started off as just an idea on a laptop, at about five in morning, probably in Dubai because we recorded this album in a lot diffrent cities. Just wherever Janet was, that’s where we went. I titled it No Sleeep because it was so late or early, whatever you want to call it, 5am. The track just kind of sat there, it was just a quick idea. When we got back to recording about three months later in LA, Terry was actually looking for a song called The Great Forever on a drive and when the track started playing and it wasn’t The Great Forever, it was actually No Sleeep and he said: ‘what is this?’ Janet heard and said: ‘Wait, we’ve got to do that one‘. So that was really it. Then we just put the lyrics together from there. We just liked the way that it sounded. We thought it had a very welcoming sound, a very confortable sound. It felt to us like it should be the first single, but more than just the first single it should be ‘I’m back’ or ‘welcome back’ feel that we wanted. It was a great way for Janet to introduce herself to the audience again. The success of the record and obviously receiving this award from Classic Pop, obviously we made the right decision, so we’re really happy about that.

It felt like a bold move to release such a mellow track as a comeback…

TERRY: I guess you can call it a comeback, but I would beg to differ. I call it a never left. People take time to make music and take time to live life, and life feeds music. Janet took the time she needed and as we were doing it, we didn’t get any sleep, so thus No Sleeep was born. Janet never left because music lives on, and it will always live on. So it might reintroduce her to some kids and new audiences here and there, but the people who are fans of Janet’s music still remain. And I think they were hugged by this song instead of beat over the head, because the song gives you a very loved feeling. It’s very easy to listen to, easy to groove to, and the world is missing that groove because everybody’s trying to be too hard, too fast, too hot, and being in the middle of something is a good thing. Just a little lukewarm, just comfortable, not trying to be anything but what we are, and I think that’s real sexy.

Janet Jackson, Rolling Stone, Video, Behind The Scenes, Studio, Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, Unbreakable

JIMMY: It felt, honestly, a lot like when we did That’s The Way Love Goes, the first single from the janet. album. The record company had heard If and thought that that should be the first single and at one point had talked Janet into believing it should be the first single. But we all knew that That’s The Way Love Goes was more the core of the album, and that was the way to go. It’s an instinct that you have, and so we had that same instinct about No Sleeep. We thought it was… It just felt like the right record to come back with and like I say, I think we’ve been proven right.

I remember a lot of people didn't like this comeback single of Janet's when it came out.. I always loved it!. It turned out to be one of her biggest hits & setting another record for Janet.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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