Reply #240 posted 03/19/16 10:34am
mjscarousal |
MattyJam said:
SoulAlive said:
zebz said: When stuff like this happens,she simply runs and hides.It would be so much better if she would just explain what's going on.Fans are usually very forgiving and understanding.Being evasive just makes it worse.
To be fair to Janet, saying "I only sold 3,231 seats in a venue capacity of 18,000" is not really going to make her look very good. What do you expect her to do?
It still doesn't make her look good now either and people still know the real reason why anyway. What she should have did was addressed the fans and apologized. Instead, she said nothing. |
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Reply #241 posted 03/19/16 11:04am
alphastreet |
Maybe Europe had no idea she was even back. She was bigger on this side. Look at the chart numbers. She could have pushed promo there more and would have had better numbers or smaller venues, whatever |
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Reply #242 posted 03/19/16 11:13am
zebz
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alphastreet said:
Maybe Europe had no idea she was even back. She was bigger on this side. Look at the chart numbers. She could have pushed promo there more and would have had better numbers or smaller venues, whatever
There was virtually no promo for this era anywhere. She was operating mostly on word of mouth in the states. Which clearly ran out of steam quickly. smh |
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Reply #243 posted 03/19/16 11:45am
SoulAlive |
MattyJam said:
SoulAlive said:
zebz said: When stuff like this happens,she simply runs and hides.It would be so much better if she would just explain what's going on.Fans are usually very forgiving and understanding.Being evasive just makes it worse.
To be fair to Janet, saying "I only sold 3,231 seats in a venue capacity of 18,000" is not really going to make her look very good. What do you expect her to do?
True....but she could have prevented this whole fiasco by simply scheduling those dates in small venues.As I recall,she did the 'Number Ones' tour in small venues and had no problems at all.
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Reply #244 posted 03/19/16 12:23pm
mancabdriver |
SoulAlive said:
MattyJam said:
SoulAlive said: zebz said: When stuff like this happens,she simply runs and hides.It would be so much better if she would just explain what's going on.Fans are usually very forgiving and understanding.Being evasive just makes it worse.
To be fair to Janet, saying "I only sold 3,231 seats in a venue capacity of 18,000" is not really going to make her look very good. What do you expect her to do?
True....but she could have prevented this whole fiasco by simply scheduling those dates in small venues.As I recall,she did the 'Number Ones' tour in small venues and had no problems at all. She could have carried on with the arena tour in big cities like Paris, Berlin and London where she was selling fine, but cancelled or booked smaller venues in Lithuania and Estonia ( what black r&b star is big there?) Or she could have simply done promotion. God knows what was going through Janet and her team's mind when they booked the European tour. |
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Reply #245 posted 03/19/16 12:46pm
Cinny |
SoulAlive said:
MattyJam said:
To be fair to Janet, saying "I only sold 3,231 seats in a venue capacity of 18,000" is not really going to make her look very good. What do you expect her to do?
True....but she could have prevented this whole fiasco by simply scheduling those dates in small venues.As I recall,she did the 'Number Ones' tour in small venues and had no problems at all.
Real talk. I wonder why they didn't at least START there. |
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Reply #246 posted 03/19/16 1:45pm
SoulAlive |
Cinny said:
SoulAlive said:
True....but she could have prevented this whole fiasco by simply scheduling those dates in small venues.As I recall,she did the 'Number Ones' tour in small venues and had no problems at all.
Real talk. I wonder why they didn't at least START there.
Her team is clueless.She needs to fire some people. |
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Reply #247 posted 03/19/16 5:21pm
automatic |
She needs to call Rene. Maybe he wasn't a good husband, but he was a good business partner with her. And yes I realize he hasn't worked with anybody since her, but he seemed to know what the fans wanted. Whether anyone wants to admit it he was a key ingredients to her team. Jam and Lewis used to praise him before things went sour with him and Janet. I distinctly remember Jam saying he has an interesting "ear" toward things and about being visual. I know after they split Jam said he never wrote anything which is probably true, but that doesn't mean he didn't contribute in other ways. All I know is Janet was at her strongest when it was the four of them. '86 to '98. This new album is amazing, but everything else about this era has been poor. |
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Reply #248 posted 03/20/16 10:31am
deeplove |
5 years since the RAH shows. If Mariah can do it right now Janet could have, if she tried. |
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Reply #249 posted 03/20/16 3:00pm
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deeplove said:
5 years since the RAH shows. If Mariah can do it right now Janet could have, if she tried.
RAH? |
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Reply #250 posted 03/20/16 3:23pm
deeplove |
zebz said:
deeplove said:
5 years since the RAH shows. If Mariah can do it right now Janet could have, if she tried.
RAH?
Royal albert hall. |
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Reply #251 posted 03/20/16 3:57pm
mjscarousal |
SoulAlive said:
Cinny said:
Real talk. I wonder why they didn't at least START there.
Her team is clueless.She needs to fire some people.
ASAP!!!!! |
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Reply #252 posted 03/20/16 3:59pm
mjscarousal |
automatic said:
She needs to call Rene. Maybe he wasn't a good husband, but he was a good business partner with her. And yes I realize he hasn't worked with anybody since her, but he seemed to know what the fans wanted. Whether anyone wants to admit it he was a key ingredients to her team. Jam and Lewis used to praise him before things went sour with him and Janet. I distinctly remember Jam saying he has an interesting "ear" toward things and about being visual. I know after they split Jam said he never wrote anything which is probably true, but that doesn't mean he didn't contribute in other ways. All I know is Janet was at her strongest when it was the four of them. '86 to '98. This new album is amazing, but everything else about this era has been poor.
I agree with this...but I also think Jam is lying because Janet herself said Rene helped her write RN, Janet and VR. He even has some credits as well and there are alot of songs he is not credited on which AGAIN Janet said herself. |
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Reply #253 posted 03/20/16 8:28pm
Scorp |
Janet got a whole population in flux but the population cant see it
She got the upper hand when it seems like she losing momentum |
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Reply #254 posted 03/20/16 8:45pm
purplethunder3 121 |
Well, the fact is, we just don't know what's going on. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #255 posted 03/20/16 8:47pm
Scorp |
purplethunder3121 said:
Well, the fact is, we just don't know what's going on.
that's the point
I could say what's really up but I'm a see if another person will point it out [Edited 3/20/16 20:48pm] |
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Reply #256 posted 03/20/16 9:33pm
alphastreet |
Do you think there is an mj connection scorp? |
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Reply #257 posted 03/21/16 4:44am
Scorp |
alphastreet said:
Do you think there is an mj connection scorp?
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Reply #258 posted 03/21/16 5:01am
KCOOLMUZIQ
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Another person use to cancel tours & publicly revealed that he hated touring then go into hiding. Wonder who? will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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Reply #259 posted 03/21/16 5:33am
alphastreet |
KCOOLMUZIQ said: Another person use to cancel tours & publicly revealed that he hated touring then go into hiding. Wonder who? Well I did post patterns of weird reports and slick incidences earlier. I hope nothing happens to Janet but do you think she's planning something no one knows about? |
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Reply #260 posted 03/21/16 5:52am
KCOOLMUZIQ
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Janet already said she is rescheduling her European dates. Plus the U.S. leg of her tour is still intact. I really wish people would leave her alone. It's not like she canceled the whole tour. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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Reply #261 posted 03/21/16 6:17am
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KCOOLMUZIQ said:
Janet already said she is rescheduling her European dates. Plus the U.S. leg of her tour is still intact. I really wish people would leave her alone. It's not like she canceled the whole tour.
You're right. People who've paid hundreds (possibley thousands) for flights and accomodation should just get over it. [Edited 3/21/16 6:18am] Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. |
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Reply #262 posted 03/21/16 6:33am
KCOOLMUZIQ
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bluegangsta said:
KCOOLMUZIQ said:
Janet already said she is rescheduling her European dates. Plus the U.S. leg of her tour is still intact. I really wish people would leave her alone. It's not like she canceled the whole tour.
You're right. People who've paid hundreds (possibley thousands) for flights and accomodation should just get over it.
[Edited 3/21/16 6:18am]
Whenever you purchase concert tickets with the intent of flying thousands of miles away, with hotel accommodations, you risk ANY artist canceling. That's life! Everything isn't meant to happen. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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Reply #263 posted 03/21/16 6:52am
bluegangsta
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KCOOLMUZIQ said:
bluegangsta said:
You're right. People who've paid hundreds (possibley thousands) for flights and accomodation should just get over it.
[Edited 3/21/16 6:18am]
Whenever you purchase concert tickets with the intent of flying thousands of miles away, with hotel accommodations, you risk ANY artist canceling. That's life! Everything isn't meant to happen.
And those fans don't deserve any explinations? What a contemptable attitude.
It seems Janet or Prince could repetedly kick you in the face and you'd still voulentarily bow before them. The only thing you overuse more than delusional justifications and horrendous grammar is that emoticon. Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. |
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Reply #264 posted 03/21/16 6:55am
alphastreet |
KCOOLMUZIQ said:
bluegangsta said:
You're right. People who've paid hundreds (possibley thousands) for flights and accomodation should just get over it.
[Edited 3/21/16 6:18am]
Whenever you purchase concert tickets with the intent of flying thousands of miles away, with hotel accommodations, you risk ANY artist canceling. That's life! Everything isn't meant to happen.
You have no empathy whatsoever for anyone but yourself. I see why people criticize you for being a stan, it's not supposed to take away caring for other human beings and choosing someone who doesn't give a shit about you daily over people's legitimate concerns. Janet has done this more than once so I understand the concerns, and she has also done things that have WORKED in her favour which people in this thread have pointed out, but you're choosing to ignore those posts cause you just love to fight with people.
About janet, things are not adding up in the reports. Her statement reads I do not have cancer. I'm recovering.....That can mean a LOT of things, who knows the truth really? She's been private always. She talks about rescheduling Euro dates, I find that very hard to believe, considering everyone got a refund. So now people have lost good seats and may not get good ones back or some may all together not see her at all when they were supposed to without being honored for the last time? I really think janet did care about fans and definitely would have said again to hang onto tickets until further notice if this was really happening. I honestly hope you guys get to see her, but I can't see it happening.
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Reply #265 posted 03/21/16 8:46am
KCOOLMUZIQ
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alphastreet said:
KCOOLMUZIQ said:
Whenever you purchase concert tickets with the intent of flying thousands of miles away, with hotel accommodations, you risk ANY artist canceling. That's life! Everything isn't meant to happen.
You have no empathy whatsoever for anyone but yourself. I see why people criticize you for being a stan, it's not supposed to take away caring for other human beings and choosing someone who doesn't give a shit about you daily over people's legitimate concerns. Janet has done this more than once so I understand the concerns, and she has also done things that have WORKED in her favour which people in this thread have pointed out, but you're choosing to ignore those posts cause you just love to fight with people.
About janet, things are not adding up in the reports. Her statement reads I do not have cancer. I'm recovering.....That can mean a LOT of things, who knows the truth really? She's been private always. She talks about rescheduling Euro dates, I find that very hard to believe, considering everyone got a refund. So now people have lost good seats and may not get good ones back or some may all together not see her at all when they were supposed to without being honored for the last time? I really think janet did care about fans and definitely would have said again to hang onto tickets until further notice if this was really happening. I honestly hope you guys get to see her, but I can't see it happening.
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Well I saw her last year. Hopefully will see her again on the second leg in May & JuLY. I'm sure she will be even better than last year. She loves it here. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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Reply #266 posted 03/21/16 8:52am
KCOOLMUZIQ
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bluegangsta said:
KCOOLMUZIQ said:
Whenever you purchase concert tickets with the intent of flying thousands of miles away, with hotel accommodations, you risk ANY artist canceling. That's life! Everything isn't meant to happen.
And those fans don't deserve any explinations? What a contemptable attitude.
It seems Janet or Prince could repetedly kick you in the face and you'd still voulentarily bow before them. The only thing you overuse more than delusional justifications and horrendous grammar is that emoticon.
You talk about my grammer? What about your HORRENDOUS spelling!! will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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Reply #267 posted 03/21/16 8:52am
alphastreet |
KCOOLMUZIQ said:
alphastreet said:
You have no empathy whatsoever for anyone but yourself. I see why people criticize you for being a stan, it's not supposed to take away caring for other human beings and choosing someone who doesn't give a shit about you daily over people's legitimate concerns. Janet has done this more than once so I understand the concerns, and she has also done things that have WORKED in her favour which people in this thread have pointed out, but you're choosing to ignore those posts cause you just love to fight with people.
About janet, things are not adding up in the reports. Her statement reads I do not have cancer. I'm recovering.....That can mean a LOT of things, who knows the truth really? She's been private always. She talks about rescheduling Euro dates, I find that very hard to believe, considering everyone got a refund. So now people have lost good seats and may not get good ones back or some may all together not see her at all when they were supposed to without being honored for the last time? I really think janet did care about fans and definitely would have said again to hang onto tickets until further notice if this was really happening. I honestly hope you guys get to see her, but I can't see it happening.
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[Edited 3/21/16 6:57am]
Well I saw her last year. Hopefully will see her again on the second leg in May & JuLY. I'm sure she will be even better than last year. She loves it here.
Yes, we can both agree you were not inconvenienced, therefore it doesn't matter if others are, because it's all about you and your janet devotion. My show is still on, but I'm also worried because of MY accomodations, not just me but the others coming with me putting their lives aside to see her and make the trip. [Edited 3/21/16 8:54am] |
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Reply #268 posted 03/21/16 9:41am
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[img:$uid]http://i66.tinypic.com/1zdbuqh.jpg[/img:$uid] will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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Reply #269 posted 03/21/16 9:52am
KCOOLMUZIQ
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No Sleeep – Single of the Year | Classic Pop 2016 Awards
I remember a lot of people didn't like this comeback single of Janet's when it came out.. I always loved it!. It turned out to be one of her biggest hits & setting another record for Janet. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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