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Reply #300 posted 03/28/16 12:36am

zebz

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clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping man I love all your posts! EXCELLENT post!

Michael honestly could have did a stadium tour but I know Michael was tired of touring and it was to much stress on his body. Michael sold out 1 MILLION tickets in just ONE CITY. I MILLION seats is larger than a stadium capacity and that was just in ONE CITY. eek eek eek eek eek eek MJ was the KANG cool

I remember that dig they took at Michael and Janet was laughing in the audience. Janet definitly relished in the fact that she was perceived as the normal Jackson. I always thought it was weird how she went on all those late night shows that trashed Michael horribly sad

I agree. Her behavior is even more bizarre considering she clearly wants (and maybe even expects) MJ fans to support her. I personally feel that Janet had a "BUT IM STILL HERE!" reaction after his death. I think she assumed all of Michael's fans would become hers and she wouldn't have to worry about being overshadowed but that didn't happen.

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Reply #301 posted 03/28/16 8:07am

DawnD

Unlike some of you, i cannot speak on what Janet's thinking. I'm not a mind reader and i'm not in her head. But, as far as Janet's ability or MAYBE 'non-ability' to play 'stadiums, if she is scheduled to perform in three different venues in one state, two venues holding a capacity of 19,000 people and another venue holding a capacity of 21,000 people, in the same state, doesn't that equal the capacity of one stadium? There are countless states where she's to perform at two to three different venues/arenas within the same state. And, those venues hold 10 to 20,000 capacity. That equals a stadium. Her tour, most shows was selling out at first. But, due to her surgery and cacelling or postponing her European Tour, it's like she has to start ALL over again selling tickets.

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Reply #302 posted 03/28/16 8:23am

DawnD

Oh! And, have ANY of you seen photos of her jewelry line/collection?! OMG!!! Necklaces, earrings, rings! BLINDING!!! After i saw them, i feel as though this tour is simply for the fans. I remember her saying, she'd perform for free, if she could.

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Reply #303 posted 03/28/16 8:41am

alphastreet

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zebz said:




mjscarousal said:




Hey, sis biggrin I wanted more of your feedback and opinions on why you said this!




lol. Well, Janet, like you said before, has pride.



In my opinion, Janet viewed Michael not only as a brother, but a competitor. Up until 2004, she was the media darling, and was often proped up at the expense of MJ. Her MTV () Icon special is a prime example of this. Was it necessary to include a dig at Michael during the tribute? NO! It's even worse considering they knew he would be making a (pre recorded) apperance. But they did it anyway. I personally believe that Janet relished this treatment. Being the "normal Jackson", and there's some evidence to support this. Unfortunately this marketing tatic garnered far more fair-weathered fans than die-hard. Which is why Janet's in her current predicament.



So, I think that due to her competitive view of him, she'd be too prideful to downsize after Rock Witchu's failure. ESPECIALLY since her scandal was FAR less extreme than Michael's. The fact that, after EVERYTHING Michael had went through. With HEINOUS crimes being thrown his way, he was still able to sell out an arena tour and Janet couldn't rebound after a d**n nip slip is bound to rub her the wrong way.



Just my take on it though, I hope this makes sense. :p



clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping man I love all your posts! EXCELLENT post!


Michael honestly could have did a stadium tour but I know Michael was tired of touring and it was to much stress on his body. Michael sold out 1 MILLION tickets in just ONE CITY. I MILLION seats is larger than a stadium capacity and that was just in ONE CITY. eek eek eek eek eek eek MJ was the KANG cool


I remember that dig they took at Michael and Janet was laughing in the audience. Janet definitly relished in the fact that she was perceived as the normal Jackson. I always thought it was weird how she went on all those late night shows that trashed Michael horribly sad



I remember that and went wtf too, but the show was pre recorded and someone I know that was there said it was edited in, she was not laughing. I thought that was in poor taste for sure
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Reply #304 posted 03/28/16 2:54pm

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DawnD said:

But, as far as Janet's ability or MAYBE 'non-ability' to play 'stadiums, if she is scheduled to perform in three different venues in one state, two venues holding a capacity of 19,000 people and another venue holding a capacity of 21,000 people, in the same state, doesn't that equal the capacity of one stadium? There are countless states where she's to perform at two to three different venues/arenas within the same state. And, those venues hold 10 to 20,000 capacity. That equals a stadium.

Uhm, no. When you have 3 concerts you can have people going to 3 concerts. But when you have 1 stadium concert you need 50.000 people going to that 1 concert. So no, it's not quite the same.

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Reply #305 posted 03/28/16 2:55pm

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Oh! And, have ANY of you seen photos of her jewelry line/collection?! OMG!!! Necklaces, earrings, rings! BLINDING!!! After i saw them, i feel as though this tour is simply for the fans. I remember her saying, she'd perform for free, if she could.

If that would be the case, then she wouldn't have pulled out of the european tour.

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Reply #306 posted 03/28/16 6:52pm

DawnD

Her pulling out from the european tour may not have had anything to do with tickets sales. I had checked. Her ticket sales were ok there. My point is ALL of us can specular. None of us really know the answer as to the decision made about the european tour.

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Reply #307 posted 03/28/16 6:53pm

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DawnD said:

Her pulling out from the european tour may not have had anything to do with tickets sales. I had checked. Her ticket sales were ok there. My point is ALL of us can specular. None of us really know the answer as to the decision made about the european tour.

very very true

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Reply #308 posted 03/28/16 7:34pm

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Earlier in this thread,I said that Janet should do a sitcom.Touring is long and grueling.I don't think Janet can handle it anymore.She should ask her buddy Tyler Perry to write a sitcom for her,like he did for two of the other stars of the 'Why Did I Get Married' movie.The sitcom could be based on her character in that movie...or something entirely new.I'm thinking that this would be more fun for Janet,as opposed to multiple months on the road,moving from one city to the next,from one hotel to another.
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Reply #309 posted 03/28/16 8:31pm

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alphastreet said:

mjscarousal said:

clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping man I love all your posts! EXCELLENT post!

Michael honestly could have did a stadium tour but I know Michael was tired of touring and it was to much stress on his body. Michael sold out 1 MILLION tickets in just ONE CITY. I MILLION seats is larger than a stadium capacity and that was just in ONE CITY. eek eek eek eek eek eek MJ was the KANG cool

I remember that dig they took at Michael and Janet was laughing in the audience. Janet definitly relished in the fact that she was perceived as the normal Jackson. I always thought it was weird how she went on all those late night shows that trashed Michael horribly sad

I remember that and went wtf too, but the show was pre recorded and someone I know that was there said it was edited in, she was not laughing. I thought that was in poor taste for sure [Edited 3/28/16 8:42am]

Its possible the laughing could have been editing in but c'mon why would you allow a comedian to make a cheap dig at your brother on YOUR show? It wasn't even something MJ could have laughed at. It was mean spirited.

Its interesting how...the tables have turned

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Reply #310 posted 03/28/16 8:33pm

mjscarousal

SoulAlive said:

Earlier in this thread,I said that Janet should do a sitcom.Touring is long and grueling.I don't think Janet can handle it anymore.She should ask her buddy Tyler Perry to write a sitcom for her,like he did for two of the other stars of the 'Why Did I Get Married' movie.The sitcom could be based on her character in that movie...or something entirely new.I'm thinking that this would be more fun for Janet,as opposed to multiple months on the road,moving from one city to the next,from one hotel to another.

I love you Soul but sometimes you are messy with your posts lol lol razz I literally LMAO at this.

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Reply #311 posted 03/28/16 9:08pm

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Reply #312 posted 03/28/16 10:38pm

alphastreet

SoulAlive said:

Earlier in this thread,I said that Janet should do a sitcom.Touring is long and grueling.I don't think Janet can handle it anymore.She should ask her buddy Tyler Perry to write a sitcom for her,like he did for two of the other stars of the 'Why Did I Get Married' movie.The sitcom could be based on her character in that movie...or something entirely new.I'm thinking that this would be more fun for Janet,as opposed to multiple months on the road,moving from one city to the next,from one hotel to another.

This is exactly what I've been saying for years. Just focus on acting, and I thought she could have a sitcom role as well cause she's really not that old and looks great and can pull of a role like when she was jo, and what Vanessa Williams did on Ugly Betty, and make cameo appearances on some current sitcoms.

I don't think janet would want to be in a show that's based on her character, unless it's based on a personality of hers we don't know about and remains a mystery hehe Making Why Did I Get Married a trilogy would be awesome. I want to see her with The Rock.

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Reply #313 posted 03/28/16 10:40pm

alphastreet

mjscarousal said:

alphastreet said:

mjscarousal said: I remember that and went wtf too, but the show was pre recorded and someone I know that was there said it was edited in, she was not laughing. I thought that was in poor taste for sure [Edited 3/28/16 8:42am]

Its possible the laughing could have been editing in but c'mon why would you allow a comedian to make a cheap dig at your brother on YOUR show? It wasn't even something MJ could have laughed at. It was mean spirited.

Its interesting how...the tables have turned

I can't even remember the joke, or just blocked it out cause I was watching it with family, and when the mj bashing came, I went into a panic cause I knew there was going to be dissing going on then :*( I used to get really down when people couldn't see what I did when it came to mj. I just remember jamie foxx had a picture of jj from good times I think and he had a glove on his penis or something...

Janet is in a class of her own, they didn't need to do that to paint her as the normal jackson, like bashing another one to bring her up. Her work speaks for itself.

[Edited 3/28/16 22:42pm]

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Reply #314 posted 03/28/16 11:48pm

mjscarousal

alphastreet said:

mjscarousal said:

Its possible the laughing could have been editing in but c'mon why would you allow a comedian to make a cheap dig at your brother on YOUR show? It wasn't even something MJ could have laughed at. It was mean spirited.

Its interesting how...the tables have turned

I can't even remember the joke, or just blocked it out cause I was watching it with family, and when the mj bashing came, I went into a panic cause I knew there was going to be dissing going on then :*( I used to get really down when people couldn't see what I did when it came to mj. I just remember jamie foxx had a picture of jj from good times I think and he had a glove on his penis or something...

Janet is in a class of her own, they didn't need to do that to paint her as the normal jackson, like bashing another one to bring her up. Her work speaks for itself.

[Edited 3/28/16 22:42pm]

I completely agree with everything you stated!

But as a another poster mentioned, all that "normal jackson" push only garnered fairweather fans.

I will never forget MTV did a countdown on the greatest video artists of all time and they listed Michael at number 7 and Janet at number 3. I thought that ws complete crap Lol This was back in 2001.

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Reply #315 posted 03/29/16 1:13am

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DawnD said:

Her pulling out from the european tour may not have had anything to do with tickets sales. I had checked. Her ticket sales were ok there. My point is ALL of us can specular. None of us really know the answer as to the decision made about the european tour.



I'm not pulling this out my ass. I had tickets for some of the poorly selling shows. I've been watching ticket sales of 5 shows since october.
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Reply #316 posted 03/29/16 4:04am

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mjscarousal said:



alphastreet said:




mjscarousal said:




Its possible the laughing could have been editing in but c'mon why would you allow a comedian to make a cheap dig at your brother on YOUR show? It wasn't even something MJ could have laughed at. It was mean spirited.


Its interesting how...the tables have turned




I can't even remember the joke, or just blocked it out cause I was watching it with family, and when the mj bashing came, I went into a panic cause I knew there was going to be dissing going on then :*( I used to get really down when people couldn't see what I did when it came to mj. I just remember jamie foxx had a picture of jj from good times I think and he had a glove on his penis or something...



Janet is in a class of her own, they didn't need to do that to paint her as the normal jackson, like bashing another one to bring her up. Her work speaks for itself.


[Edited 3/28/16 22:42pm]



I completely agree with everything you stated!


But as a another poster mentioned, all that "normal jackson" push only garnered fairweather fans.



I will never forget MTV did a countdown on the greatest video artists of all time and they listed Michael at number 7 and Janet at number 3. I thought that ws complete crap Lol This was back in 2001.





Did you lose a whole weeks of sleep after that countdown aired?
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Reply #317 posted 03/30/16 12:14am

mjscarousal

^ lol lol lol No I just thought it was b.s. Do you have any photos from the Dubai world cup? I would like to see some.

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Reply #318 posted 03/30/16 8:28am

alphastreet

It's just a dumb countdown. MJ was number one on an MTV countdown at the end of 1999 and did an interview with them. I can see why it upset us more back then, TV was all we had, internet was still growing and there was no youtube, not much social networking site, just fan forums and chatrooms if anything, and fighting over artists was like fighting over sports teams lol Though it's admirable janet's work is strong enough to kick mj's ass, it's not fair she was used as a promo tool to downplay mj and this happened in a lot of ways, and she knew what was down.

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Reply #319 posted 03/30/16 10:53am

mjscarousal

alphastreet said:

It's just a dumb countdown. MJ was number one on an MTV countdown at the end of 1999 and did an interview with them. I can see why it upset us more back then, TV was all we had, internet was still growing and there was no youtube, not much social networking site, just fan forums and chatrooms if anything, and fighting over artists was like fighting over sports teams lol Though it's admirable janet's work is strong enough to kick mj's ass, it's not fair she was used as a promo tool to downplay mj and this happened in a lot of ways, and she knew what was down.

[Edited 3/30/16 8:29am]

I disagree with that but I do agree she has earned the right to be mention along side him. Janet relished in all the "normal jackson" attention she received. Now that things have changed, she has regressed. She uses her association with MJ to sell her brand.

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Reply #320 posted 03/30/16 1:00pm

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The beautiful,talented NEVER missing a beat Janet Jackson live in Dubai at the World Cup 26March2016

Slaying it!!!!

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Reply #322 posted 03/30/16 1:27pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ do you have to continue to TROLL on here? it so annoying now.

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Reply #323 posted 03/30/16 1:45pm

mjscarousal

I really hate her costumes for this tour. It takes away from the awesome choreography.

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Reply #324 posted 03/30/16 6:57pm

zebz

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I really hate her costumes for this tour. It takes away from the awesome choreography.

I agree. Those pants are not the business but I haven't liked a Janet stage costume since RN era. Her hair and makeup is amazing though.

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Reply #325 posted 03/30/16 7:14pm

mjscarousal

^ Yea definitly she looks beautiful. I just want he to win SO BADLY!

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Reply #326 posted 03/30/16 7:38pm

mjscarousal

I LOVED Her Velvet Rope concert wardrobe

Costumes were FLAWLESS. Her Velvet Rope concert attire has been the BEST wardrobe I have seen by any female pop star

FIERCE

Janet was unstoppable in her prime. Beyonce got NOTHING on her. Prime Janet would mop the floor with her ass.

I LOVED this tour/era/album.

I loved how she was beautiful but wasn't this pin up glamor girl sex kitten. She actually had something to say and wasnt afraid to take risk and challenge her music listeners.

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Reply #327 posted 03/30/16 10:17pm

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Janet has evolved into a CLASSY,respectable artist through EACH era of her career...

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Reply #328 posted 03/30/16 11:24pm

zebz

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I LOVED Her Velvet Rope concert wardrobe

Costumes were FLAWLESS. Her Velvet Rope concert attire has been the BEST wardrobe I have seen by any female pop star

FIERCE

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Janet was unstoppable in her prime. Beyonce got NOTHING on her. Prime Janet would mop the floor with her ass.

I LOVED this tour/era/album.

I loved how she was beautiful but wasn't this pin up glamor girl sex kitten. She actually had something to say and wasnt afraid to take risk and challenge her music listeners.

I love that tour too. I feel the VR was her creative peak.

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Reply #329 posted 03/31/16 12:04pm

alphastreet

mjscarousal said:

I LOVED Her Velvet Rope concert wardrobe



Costumes were FLAWLESS. Her Velvet Rope concert attire has been the BEST wardrobe I have seen by any female pop star

















FIERCE



Janet was unstoppable in her prime. Beyonce got NOTHING on her. Prime Janet would mop the floor with her ass.



I LOVED this tour/era/album.



I loved how she was beautiful but wasn't this pin up glamor girl sex kitten. She actually had something to say and wasnt afraid to take risk and challenge her music listeners.










She was causing traffic accidents with her nipple ring/tattoo spread lol I agree she was classy and sassy all at once in this era, her most timeless one imo. I think the vr tour is my favourite I've ever attended

I loved the tour outfits, concept etc as well
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