mrsnet said:

FROM mrsnet:

sigh... and to think I came here to get away from the insanity at MJ boards. Now I MUST respond. SCORP - you do know had it not been for the genius of that little boy that blew Berry Gordy away, there never would have been a famous Jackson Family. The Jackson brothers minus MJ are talented but not exceptional enough to have been signed to Motown back then. It was MJ who floored Gordy. Janet would not have been a star - can't sing. She's a video era star - Thanks to Mike who revolusionized videos.

You know, scorp is a fan of Jackson family, he loves everyone (Rebbie, Janet, Tito, etc.), except for Michael.

agree with you, artistry, talent and charisma of little Michael - the main reason why the Jackson family has become popular at all.
Barry Gordy said many times that it was Michael who impressed him.
I very much doubt that with another leader Jackson 5 would be able to sign a contract with Motown or some other major label.

9:51AM PST: A source closely connected to Paris tells TMZ ... she has "tried this [a possible suicide attempt] in the past" but "this was far more serious. It was not a cry for help."



Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2VMWe8pUF

[Edited 6/5/13 10:04am]

I sensed there was problems under the service of her. Pray to God she gets through them...

[Edited 6/5/13 10:42am]

Poor Paris. Hope she gets better.

And i'm calling it now, the Jackson family are going to throw Paris under the bus just like MJ and turn her into the world's biggest brat. When it comes to their own delusions about their public image, this is when they speak up and try to protect their own crappy image.

mookie said:

Poor Paris. Hope she gets better.

And i'm calling it now, the Jackson family are going to throw Paris under the bus just like MJ and turn her into the world's biggest brat. When it comes to their own delusions about their public image, this is when they speak up and try to protect their own crappy image.

Even if their egos encourage that, this will do a number on Katherine too.

7230 said:

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Nothing about it is "headed" anywhere. That's exactly where this shit is. It's all race. So YES, these majority white female people would indeed attempt to justify calling their beloved Michael Jackson's senior black mother derogatory names (as has been done already in this thread for a plethora of dumb-ass reasons), all the while giving this antithetical white girl every unwarranted compliment under the sun, as well as calling deceptive-ass Debbie Rowe a fucking "savior."

/

Bottom line (and damn all rebuttals): This excess defense for "minor" Paris Rowe against Katherine Jackson would not be happening if that girl's skin color was brown like a Jackson. If she was walking around here resembling Rebbie or Janet like every other female descendant in that family, nobody would give a fuck, or, she'd be criticized CONSTANTLY (like little Willow Smith or Bobbi Kristina), and thrown in the same bag of disrespect as Michael's mother. Being 15 acting like some damn 30 year old, but BLACK? THEN Paris JACKSON WOULD be a "brat." THEN she WOULD be "fast" or "too grown." THEN she WOULD be "unruly." THEN she WOULD be "disobedient." THEN she WOULD "look old." THEN she WOULD be "wearing too much make-up." THEN her clothes WOULD be "inappropriate shit her father would never let her wear." THEN she WOULD be expected to "know better." THEN she WOULD be "nothing like Michael Jackson." It's all fucking racial, no matter how anybody tries to deny that. Paris Rowe's face and skin tone being an exact copy of the white woman who bore her is the ONLY thing that protects that child from the derision she would certainly receive otherwise. And that's not just here. It's every damn where.

So not true. Most of us are just calling it as we see it. We applaud Paris because we just find her refreshing because she doesn't act like the typical Jackson who is safe, boring, clueless and who just goes with the flow. She's isn't scripted like the rest of them. And as for the "disrespect" for Katherine, who cares. It's within fans rights to not like her. It's not like the Jackson supporters are actually defending her, so I don't get the anger towards MJ fans not liking her. All you see is family supporters lazily hiding behind the "beloved mother" card, which is just sad because most folks can't even name anything respectable this "beloved mother" has done since MJ's passing. Y'all talk about respect for the family, but what about respect for MJ? Isn't this same family all in bed with those that slap them and MJ around? So how can you expect fans to respect them, when they don't even respect themselves. In my view, some are way overexaggerating what the fans are saying against Katherine because they are just pissed that the are unable to shut down the criticisms. Attack the fathers of Amy Winehouse or Britney Spears and watch how hardcore they are defended. Never ever do you see anything like that when it comes to the Jackson family and that is what I find sad.

mookie said:

Poor Paris. Hope she gets better.

And i'm calling it now, the Jackson family are going to throw Paris under the bus just like MJ and turn her into the world's biggest brat. When it comes to their own delusions about their public image, this is when they speak up and try to protect their own crappy image.

Agee

Well if they threw their own brother and son (MJ) under the bus what makes Paris an exception?

Its sad any kind of way you look at it.

[Edited 6/5/13 12:58pm]

I expected the suicide attempts to start when they were in their 20s. The fact that they're starting already does not bode well.

And of course no-one will even mention the real issue here, will they? Venom will be poured on the scapegoats, but never the real culprit.

midnightmover said:

I expected the suicide attempts to start when they were in their 20s. The fact that they're starting already does not bode well.

And of course no-one will even mention the real issue here, will they? Venom will be poured on the scapegoats, but never the real culprit.

what exactly is the "real issue" here?

SoulAlive said:

midnightmover said:

I expected the suicide attempts to start when they were in their 20s. The fact that they're starting already does not bode well.

And of course no-one will even mention the real issue here, will they? Venom will be poured on the scapegoats, but never the real culprit.

what exactly is the "real issue" here?

Do not you know that midnightmover is an obsessed hater?
Of course he blames for all MJ!!

Interestingly, in what else events he blames Michael Jackson? September 11 terrorist attack, or possible genocide of the Jews, the war in Yugoslavia ...... MJ is the reason of all the problems in the world ....

LiLi1992 said:

mrsnet said:

FROM mrsnet:

You know, scorp is a fan of Jackson family, he loves everyone (Rebbie, Janet, Tito, etc.), except for Michael.

agree with you, artistry, talent and charisma of little Michael - the main reason why the Jackson family has become popular at all.
Barry Gordy said many times that it was Michael who impressed him.
I very much doubt that with another leader Jackson 5 would be able to sign a contract with Motown or some other major label.

you see that young girl in that picture above

the young girl who is already experiencing suicidal thoughts....

see, for me the entertainment value went out the door when there was no longer a valid reason to seek it......

we can sit here and talk about the entertainment value but you have a young lady who is already walking in despair (which was predictable from jump street)

this young girl is seeking to build a relationship w/her mother as she is being greated with hostility directed towards when the situation isn't even her fault

see it's not about the kids, it's about the situation......

this girl KNOWS rather MJ fans who uphold the lies want to admit it or not

she knows MIchael Jackson is not her real father.....

just imagine living your life that's already shaped in false projection the moment you come into the world, and then you grow up, thinking things are one way when they never was

and because of that, she's already crying out for a situation predicated on madness she's not even responsible for

she needs to find out who her real father is...every kid deservest that.....that's the bottom line cut and dry

the problem is that "the king of pop" or the individual who evolved to that brand of distinction essentially projected this kids to the world to uphold the image he attempted to present to the world, an image that was predicated on racial indifference, enticing hostility from every wave, every corner, every block

and it's only going to get worse........

^

Michael Jackson is her father!
I can not no other way to call a man raising a child from the first day of her life.
and you do not know what Michael told her about their biological kinship.
He could not hide the fact that they are not native by blood, it does not change the fact that he is her father and she is his daughter.

and how does your long and emotional post is to my belief that Michael - the main reason for the success of The Jackson 5, and the most gifted (with a margin) member of their clan.

mookie said:

7230 said:

/

Nothing about it is "headed" anywhere. That's exactly where this shit is. It's all race. So YES, these majority white female people would indeed attempt to justify calling their beloved Michael Jackson's senior black mother derogatory names (as has been done already in this thread for a plethora of dumb-ass reasons), all the while giving this antithetical white girl every unwarranted compliment under the sun, as well as calling deceptive-ass Debbie Rowe a fucking "savior."

/

Bottom line (and damn all rebuttals): This excess defense for "minor" Paris Rowe against Katherine Jackson would not be happening if that girl's skin color was brown like a Jackson. If she was walking around here resembling Rebbie or Janet like every other female descendant in that family, nobody would give a fuck, or, she'd be criticized CONSTANTLY (like little Willow Smith or Bobbi Kristina), and thrown in the same bag of disrespect as Michael's mother. Being 15 acting like some damn 30 year old, but BLACK? THEN Paris JACKSON WOULD be a "brat." THEN she WOULD be "fast" or "too grown." THEN she WOULD be "unruly." THEN she WOULD be "disobedient." THEN she WOULD "look old." THEN she WOULD be "wearing too much make-up." THEN her clothes WOULD be "inappropriate shit her father would never let her wear." THEN she WOULD be expected to "know better." THEN she WOULD be "nothing like Michael Jackson." It's all fucking racial, no matter how anybody tries to deny that. Paris Rowe's face and skin tone being an exact copy of the white woman who bore her is the ONLY thing that protects that child from the derision she would certainly receive otherwise. And that's not just here. It's every damn where.

So not true. Most of us are just calling it as we see it. We applaud Paris because we just find her refreshing because she doesn't act like the typical Jackson who is safe, boring, clueless and who just goes with the flow. She's isn't scripted like the rest of them. And as for the "disrespect" for Katherine, who cares. It's within fans rights to not like her. It's not like the Jackson supporters are actually defending her, so I don't get the anger towards MJ fans not liking her. All you see is family supporters lazily hiding behind the "beloved mother" card, which is just sad because most folks can't even name anything respectable this "beloved mother" has done since MJ's passing. Y'all talk about respect for the family, but what about respect for MJ? Isn't this same family all in bed with those that slap them and MJ around? So how can you expect fans to respect them, when they don't even respect themselves. In my view, some are way overexaggerating what the fans are saying against Katherine because they are just pissed that the are unable to shut down the criticisms. Attack the fathers of Amy Winehouse or Britney Spears and watch how hardcore they are defended. Never ever do you see anything like that when it comes to the Jackson family and that is what I find sad.

and this type of birdfeather comment is why this entire situation has turned into one great shitstorm, 10 times worse than Hurricane Sandy....this hurricane has lasted over 27 years because Michael Jackson embraced the concept of racial indifference, which has directed hate towards his family, hate towards anything or anyone who reminds the majority of his fans who he really was, and it stinks foul all the way to the crapper

what was once sunshine has turned into hubris...

to say it's alright to dislike someone, much less an 80 year old woman who aint done jack to his fans, by calling her a mother fucker and a nigger......those fans and those who share similar thoughts w/out saying the actual words should be rounded up and sent to jail. they need to be locked up because all they do is breed hate and hell on the regular....there's never anything constructive or encouraging...

Michael had all the respect in the world from 1969-1984, but that respect dissipated year after year aftrer year, and it happend swift and fast once it was obvious what he was seeking for himself and his career after he reached the very pinnacle....and he was STILL given the benefit of the doubt because of what he had accomplished and how he endeared the public when this stuff meant something..

this aint about being pro family....it's about being realistic and stop looking for scapegoats...

no, it was MICHAEL who didn't respect himself when he pushed beyond his natural being and who's the latest casualty of the madness..this girl slitting her wrists, or I should say, contemplating suicide.....

and I aint got to exaggerate nothing....I just read the same crap comments today I've witnessed over the past 2 decades....

this is absolutely, unequivically the ugliest public situation I've ever seen in my lifetime...

LiLi1992 said:

^

Michael Jackson is her father!
I can not no other way to call a man raising a child from the first day of her life.
and you do not know what Michael told her about their biological kinship.
He could not hide the fact that they are not native by blood, it does not change the fact that he is her father and she is his daughter.

and how does your long and emotional post is to my belief that Michael - the main reason for the success of The Jackson 5, and the most gifted (with a margin) member of their clan.

so you're admitting that he did not father them.....

keeping pointing out the entertainment value to overlook the tragedy of this circumstance

the entertainment value is all but gone, especially when a girl start talking about closing the curtain permanently....

but all fans want to continue talking about is records and attendance and sales......

Scorp said:

LiLi1992 said:

^

Michael Jackson is her father!
I can not no other way to call a man raising a child from the first day of her life.
and you do not know what Michael told her about their biological kinship.
He could not hide the fact that they are not native by blood, it does not change the fact that he is her father and she is his daughter.

and how does your long and emotional post is to my belief that Michael - the main reason for the success of The Jackson 5, and the most gifted (with a margin) member of their clan.

so you're admitting that he did not father them.....

let's say, I think it was not MJ sperm, which took part in the creation of the two older children, but he was their father through the care and love ... it's much more important than biology.

LiLi1992 said:

Scorp said:

so you're admitting that he did not father them.....

let's say, I think it was not MJ sperm, which took part in the creation of the two older children, but he was their father through the care and love ... it's much more important than biology.

it's a start.....this is a major breakthrough

see, it aint hard to admit the truth...it's actually harder to maintain something that aint true...

The Uncle

Everyone thinks this this C list celebrity with A list name recognition has reunited with someone from their past because of want. It is because of need. For the past year and a half she has been fighting off her uncle. The uncle would just take her out to go shopping, and then would kiss her and hug her at the end of the day. That progressed to taking her to lunch and holding her hand during it or taking her shopping for bras. They have gone to dinner and he even had her spend the night at a hotel room several times. In the past few months as she has matured, his advances have been getting stronger and stronger and she had no choice but to stay away.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1749646&page=100

Make of that what you will.

midnightmover said:

I expected the suicide attempts to start when they were in their 20s. The fact that they're starting already does not bode well.

And of course no-one will even mention the real issue here, will they? Venom will be poured on the scapegoats, but never the real culprit.

Oh gee why not tell us the "real issue" already? Let's see how far your deluded mind takes us this time.

Scorp said:

LiLi1992 said:

let's say, I think it was not MJ sperm, which took part in the creation of the two older children, but he was their father through the care and love ... it's much more important than biology.

it's a start.....this is a major breakthrough

see, it aint hard to admit the truth...it's actually harder to maintain something that aint true...

start for what?
I consider myself a fan, but I never believed in his biological paternity in relation to two older children (50/50 for the younger), and wrote about it here many times before.
just people ignorant and often asked "who is the real father?" MJ - the real father of these children. any person who raises a child from birth, deserves to be the father of a lot more than someone who once shared a biomaterial.

Scorp said:

LiLi1992 said:

You know, scorp is a fan of Jackson family, he loves everyone (Rebbie, Janet, Tito, etc.), except for Michael.

agree with you, artistry, talent and charisma of little Michael - the main reason why the Jackson family has become popular at all.
Barry Gordy said many times that it was Michael who impressed him.
I very much doubt that with another leader Jackson 5 would be able to sign a contract with Motown or some other major label.

you see that young girl in that picture above

the young girl who is already experiencing suicidal thoughts....

see, for me the entertainment value went out the door when there was no longer a valid reason to seek it......

we can sit here and talk about the entertainment value but you have a young lady who is already walking in despair (which was predictable from jump street)

this young girl is seeking to build a relationship w/her mother as she is being greated with hostility directed towards when the situation isn't even her fault

see it's not about the kids, it's about the situation......

this girl KNOWS rather MJ fans who uphold the lies want to admit it or not

she knows MIchael Jackson is not her real father.....

just imagine living your life that's already shaped in false projection the moment you come into the world, and then you grow up, thinking things are one way when they never was

and because of that, she's already crying out for a situation predicated on madness she's not even responsible for

she needs to find out who her real father is...every kid deservest that.....that's the bottom line cut and dry

the problem is that "the king of pop" or the individual who evolved to that brand of distinction essentially projected this kids to the world to uphold the image he attempted to present to the world, an image that was predicated on racial indifference, enticing hostility from every wave, every corner, every block

and it's only going to get worse........

I said to myself I wasn't gonna come back to this forum in a while, because the commentaries by grown ups in their 35-50s on this forum are just way to juvenile and I'm in my early 20s. The fact that you are focusing on whether or not MJ was her father speaks volumes on the way you think. If it is indeed true that she was trying to commit suicide, I hope that she gets the help she needs. NOBODY in this world has ever been the daugther to the worlds most known man on this planet. Paris is the daugther of great Michael Jackson and he loved her with all his heart. It's quite traumatic to experience death at such a young age (she lost her father at age 11) and espcially when you have family members who aren't interested in knowing you but just your money. It's actually quite common for many young children who experience death of a single parent at a young age to think about death and be in a vunerable state. I still to this day don't believe Katherine should have gotten those kids, she is way 2 old and she doesn't know how it is to be a parent in this new era of the 00s. She doesn't know how the internet world works etc, Paris has been bullied and stalked already through the internet and that's the main reason MJ had so high security rules when those kids would use the internet when he was alive. My heart goes out to her and I hope she gets better! Instead of talking about a teenager that hasn't told her side of the story yet, ppl should get moving on with their own lives.

GoldDolphin said:

Scorp said:

you see that young girl in that picture above

the young girl who is already experiencing suicidal thoughts....

see, for me the entertainment value went out the door when there was no longer a valid reason to seek it......

we can sit here and talk about the entertainment value but you have a young lady who is already walking in despair (which was predictable from jump street)

this young girl is seeking to build a relationship w/her mother as she is being greated with hostility directed towards when the situation isn't even her fault

see it's not about the kids, it's about the situation......

this girl KNOWS rather MJ fans who uphold the lies want to admit it or not

she knows MIchael Jackson is not her real father.....

just imagine living your life that's already shaped in false projection the moment you come into the world, and then you grow up, thinking things are one way when they never was

and because of that, she's already crying out for a situation predicated on madness she's not even responsible for

she needs to find out who her real father is...every kid deservest that.....that's the bottom line cut and dry

the problem is that "the king of pop" or the individual who evolved to that brand of distinction essentially projected this kids to the world to uphold the image he attempted to present to the world, an image that was predicated on racial indifference, enticing hostility from every wave, every corner, every block

and it's only going to get worse........

I said to myself I wasn't gonna come back to this forum in a while, because the commentaries by grown ups in their 35-50s on this forum are just way to juvenile and I'm in my early 20s. The fact that you are focusing on whether or not MJ was her father speaks volumes on the way you think. If it is indeed true that she was trying to commit suicide, I hope that she gets the help she needs. NOBODY in this world has ever been the daugther to the worlds most known man on this planet. Paris is the daugther of great Michael Jackson and he loved her with all his heart. It's quite traumatic to experience death at such a young age (she lost her father at age 11) and espcially when you have family members who aren't interested in knowing you but just your money. It's actually quite common for many young children who experience death of a single parent at a young age to think about death and be in a vunerable state. I still to this day don't believe Katherine should have gotten those kids, she is way 2 old and she doesn't know how it is to be a parent in this new era of the 00s. She doesn't know how the internet world works etc, Paris has been bullied and stalked already through the internet and that's the main reason MJ had so high security rules when those kids would use the internet when he was alive. My heart goes out to her and I hope she gets better! Instead of talking about a teenager that hasn't told her side of the story yet, ppl should get moving on with their own lives.

the problem is...this became news due to the nature of the circumstance itself....news being displayed w/out getting to the root of the problem, which requires that the entertainment value fans have been accustomed to focus on should be set aside once and for all

especially since there will be no more music coming down the pike from this entertainer ever again, so all we have left is the byproduct of the madness

what this girl did or tried to do has nothing to do w/what happened to Michael Jackson directly, it has to do w/the superficial image he attempted to project to the world, an image predicated on the theme of racial indifference where a black man attempted to convince the public that he fathered white children, and because of that dichotomy, he's left these kids, particularly the girl prone to receiving the type of attacks online that she has...so in essence because of the false image, the kids will be thrown under the bus because they are subject to a level of hostility as a result of the false image they aren't even responsible for

there isn't any money to be had, and that's another fable that will be proven false down the line

Janet sure doesn't need the money, she issued her billion dollar manifesto a couple of weeks ago and the brothers are touring across the globe, people are loving it, and they are performing in front of 150,000 plus

if Katherine lived in the 1700s, 1800s, or the 22nd century, no 80 year old woman should be asked to raise children period, it's not even a matter if she's familiar w/activity on the internet or not

I didn't think the despair would start until these kids reached early adulthood, but it's starting already....but as usual, the majority of MJ are always looking for a scapegoat to pit blame on and tha'ts been the constant theme since the 90s hit.....

[Edited 6/6/13 4:57am]

GoldDolphin said:

Well said. MJ is daddy to those three children, he protected and loved them very much.

It horrifies me that some keep going on about colour of skin as an other argument against MJ.

My grandchild is identical to my daughter, my son in-law Black Mauritius, daughter Scottish/English white. Blue + brown eyes = green/blue gorgeous eyes. Mauritius Black + Scottish/English white = white skin. Black Afro hair + blond/brown straight hair = black/blond highlighted fine with slight wave hair, as she is getting older her hair is becoming much lighter .
Genetics/mother nature works in ways that for some humans brains will never understand. And even if MJ is not biological father, he brought those children up, they are his children. And no one has a right to question this.

I've read the abuse his children receive on the net and its vile. Some are adults sending abuse out to them. Keyboard warriors thinking they can spout ish. Shame on them! No moral compass, no home training, no respect for another. People can speculate till the cows come home but doesn't mean it is right to do. People would hate it if it happened to them so why the heck do it to another.

These children are not responsible for any adults actions, they are the innocent ones, they do not deserve abuse they receive, neither should they be questioned who their dad is or questioned/attacked for anything MJ, his (adults)family etc has done.

My prayers are for Paris, I hope she receives the love, guidance and finds much peace and happiness in her life.

TypoQueen said:

GoldDolphin said:

I said to myself I wasn't gonna come back to this forum in a while, because the commentaries by grown ups in their 35-50s on this forum are just way to juvenile and I'm in my early 20s. The fact that you are focusing on whether or not MJ was her father speaks volumes on the way you think. If it is indeed true that she was trying to commit suicide, I hope that she gets the help she needs. NOBODY in this world has ever been the daugther to the worlds most known man on this planet. Paris is the daugther of great Michael Jackson and he loved her with all his heart. It's quite traumatic to experience death at such a young age (she lost her father at age 11) and espcially when you have family members who aren't interested in knowing you but just your money. It's actually quite common for many young children who experience death of a single parent at a young age to think about death and be in a vunerable state. I still to this day don't believe Katherine should have gotten those kids, she is way 2 old and she doesn't know how it is to be a parent in this new era of the 00s. She doesn't know how the internet world works etc, Paris has been bullied and stalked already through the internet and that's the main reason MJ had so high security rules when those kids would use the internet when he was alive. My heart goes out to her and I hope she gets better! Instead of talking about a teenager that hasn't told her side of the story yet, ppl should get moving on with their own lives.

Well said. MJ is daddy to those three children, he protected and loved them very much. It horrifies me that some keep going on about colour of skin as an other argument against MJ. My grandchild is identical to my daughter, my son in-law Black Mauritius, daughter Scottish/English white. Blue + brown eyes = green/blue gorgeous eyes. Mauritius Black + Scottish/English white = white skin. Black Afro hair + blond/brown straight hair = black/blond highlighted fine with slight wave hair, as she is getting older her hair is becoming much lighter . Genetics/mother nature works in ways that for some humans brains will never understand. And even if MJ is not biological father, he brought those children up, they are his children. And no one has a right to question this. I've read the abuse his children receive on the net and its vile. Some are adults sending abuse out to them. Keyboard warriors thinking they can spout ish. Shame on them! No moral compass, no home training, no respect for another. People can speculate till the cows come home but doesn't mean it is right to do. People would hate it if it happened to them so why the heck do it to another. These children are not responsible for any adults actions, they are the innocent ones, they do not deserve abuse they receive, neither should they be questioned who their dad is or questioned/attacked for anything MJ, his (adults)family etc has done. My prayers are for Paris, I hope she receives the love, guidance and finds much peace and happiness in her life.

And that sums it up perfectly. No other word is needed.

Police: Paris Jackson Wanted Attention

It isn’t easy being a 15-year-old teenager growing up in the public eye. Being the daughter of the greatest entertainer the world has ever seen only compounds the problem. But police say Paris Jackson’s “suicide” attempt on Tuesday was simply a cry for attention.

“She wanted attention,” law enforcement sources told TMZ. The superficial scrapes seen on Paris’s arms in paparazzi photos are consistent with cutting behavior exhibited by troubled teens who are depressed and lack coping skills.

But not all cutters seek attention explains Psychiatrist Leonard Sax in aPsychology Today article.

“Most of these girls and young women are not suicidal, and they don’t want anybody to find out. They don’t want to be discovered,” writes Dr. Sax.

“Cutting themselves.. becomes compulsive, almost addictive for some of these girls. Cutting delivers a weird kind of disembodied rush,” he writes.

Paris is currently being treated in a psychiatric unit on a court ordered 5150 hold.

“Suicide awareness day today.. hope you guys wore yellow,” Paris wrote in a tweet dated last Sept. 10.

Scorp said:

.

and this type of birdfeather comment is why this entire situation has turned into one great shitstorm, 10 times worse than Hurricane Sandy....this hurricane has lasted over 27 years because Michael Jackson embraced the concept of racial indifference, which has directed hate towards his family, hate towards anything or anyone who reminds the majority of his fans who he really was, and it stinks foul all the way to the crapper

what was once sunshine has turned into hubris...

to say it's alright to dislike someone, much less an 80 year old woman who aint done jack to his fans, by calling her a mother fucker and a nigger......those fans and those who share similar thoughts w/out saying the actual words should be rounded up and sent to jail. they need to be locked up because all they do is breed hate and hell on the regular....there's never anything constructive or encouraging...

Michael had all the respect in the world from 1969-1984, but that respect dissipated year after year aftrer year, and it happend swift and fast once it was obvious what he was seeking for himself and his career after he reached the very pinnacle....and he was STILL given the benefit of the doubt because of what he had accomplished and how he endeared the public when this stuff meant something..

this aint about being pro family....it's about being realistic and stop looking for scapegoats...

no, it was MICHAEL who didn't respect himself when he pushed beyond his natural being and who's the latest casualty of the madness..this girl slitting her wrists, or I should say, contemplating suicide.....

and I aint got to exaggerate nothing....I just read the same crap comments today I've witnessed over the past 2 decades....

this is absolutely, unequivically the ugliest public situation I've ever seen in my lifetime...

To be realistic, you have to be informed. And you've shown you're not that informed and you're not capable of being balanced in your views (ex. you'll attack MJ fans for crticizing katherine, but not speak up when Janet's fans viciously attack MJ and his kids). You're also pretty outdated. The fact that you expect fans to think much of Katherine and the rest of the family shows how out of touch and outdated you are. There is no fanbase outside of Janet's that thinks highly of their artist's family, so why would you even dare try preach to us about this family? Priscilla Presley has made 100's of milllion of dollars for Elvis estate and Elvis fans still hate her, but you expect MJ fans to kiss the asses of the Jacksons, who have done nothing for MJ's legacy? Or the fact that you continue to exaggerate (as if you could pull up any thread of fans calling Katherine those names) what the fans say about Katherine, while not addressing the fact this family sucks up to those that say 50x times worst things about them, than the fans ever have said about them, sums up why it is hard to take you seriously.

BTW, I can easily name who it is that crosses the line at times when it comes to criticizing this family, while also showing plenty of times fans telling this poster to knock it off and his offensive comments being deleted. So stop with all this outdated ramblings about MJ, his kids and his fans, and starting questioning this family's actions. Their funky current actions is what is driving all this loud criticism towards them, so why not address that? Forget about the mistakes MJ might have made, dwelling on that is what comes across as being used as a scapegoat and actually speak on the issue of what this family has done since MJ's passing.

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Perhaps it's as simple as MJ suffered from depression, and now Paris suffers from it, too. There is a genetic component... Maybe it's nobody's fault?

There are kids who are born into two parent families who aren't loved, who aren't looked after... who long for just one loving person. Michael according to his children and others was a loving adoring father and his three children are proud to call him their dad. THAT is important.

They aren't the only children in the world to come from donors, surrogates or to be adopted, or whatever it is people want to say. Yes, it's perhaps not the norm, yes... it does cause problems for some. But it doesn't mean it's the be all and end all of the childrens happiness. Especially if what the kids say is true, that they had a loving father. So we can stop with this assumption that their lives will be hell forever. What a thing to say about a kid.

This notion that if Michael isn't their biological dad that somehow they will be swept away from all things Jackson and have no right to his legacy just shows how narrow minded people are. Will Madonna send her black kids back to Malawi when she dies? Will other kids in the world who were adopted or fostered or brought into the world by donors suddenly stop being a part of the family they were born into when their family falls apart or one of their parents or their only parent dies? No. Family is family, whether you adopt, whether the kid is black, white or asian. Whether they have MJ's blood in their veins or some other guy from down the street, they are still Michael Jackson's children and nothing will change that. So all the DNA tests are useless, all this know it all attitude, and discussion about 'white kids' getting MJ's legacy is just useless, because they are his. They will always be his children.

People saying she wants to discover who her real father is, are just using this as an excuse to have yet another dig at Michael AND the kids. The girl just tried to hurt herself badly, yet the comments are on going. And these are from adults. EVEN IF, she did discover MJ wasn't her biological dad, Most adults should know there are few children who find out that they are adopted who go to shun and stop calling their parents who raised them "Mother and Father" just because they weren't biologically theirs. They get to know their biological parents but their love for their family doesn't stop. If you discovered now that your dad or mother wasn't biologically yours, would you somehow feel at home with your biological parents over your actual parents? Would you want to forget your mother and father who raised you from birth? No, that's unlikely.

Anyway that's my view. Most of the people who love to have endless digs about MJ's childrens dna lineage won't be happy until they go on Maury and there will probably never be a public DNA test to give your know it all attitudes an ego stroke if it turns out they were right. So what's the point? Like I said above, they are his, whether they are his, jermaines, tito's or bloody Maculay Culkins! Who cares if some person in a different state or country doesn't like it? They are Michael's 3 children! Forever and always will be.

Michael's kids should have been kept from the public eye for atleast 5 years, had time to be kids, to grieve, to move on... then... tell the world their story. But Michael's kids were thrust infront of various cameras, selling books, fizzy drinks, interviews on tasteless tv shows, signed up to movies, appearing for promotion. To go from unknown to being on the front cover of every magazine in the space of a few months is bizarre. All the while trying to deal with the tragic and public loss of your dad.

They have been interviewed on various tv shows around the world, their grief provided many with ratings and money, but did they actually have time to cope with the grief? Losing a parent suddenly, seeing your parent dead on the floor being pumped to try and bring him back to life. Then adjusting to a new family life, then the hoopla of the past four years. From the outside in, it's no wonder a grieving child would feel lost.

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deadmansbones said:

Perhaps it's as simple as MJ suffered from depression, and now Paris suffers from it, too. There is a genetic component... Maybe it's nobody's fault?

Geez. Or maybe she's depressed because her father died when she was just 11.

OfftheWall said:

There are kids who are born into two parent families who aren't loved, who aren't looked after... who long for just one loving person. Michael according to his children and others was a loving adoring father and his three children are proud to call him their dad. THAT is important.

They aren't the only children in the world to come from donors, surrogates or to be adopted, or whatever it is people want to say. Yes, it's perhaps not the norm, yes... it does cause problems for some. But it doesn't mean it's the be all and end all of the childrens happiness. Especially if what the kids say is true, that they had a loving father. So we can stop with this assumption that their lives will be hell forever. What a thing to say about a kid.

This notion that if Michael isn't their biological dad that somehow they will be swept away from all things Jackson and have no right to his legacy just shows how narrow minded people are. Will Madonna send her black kids back to Malawi when she dies? Will other kids in the world who were adopted or fostered or brought into the world by donors suddenly stop being a part of the family they were born into when their family falls apart or one of their parents or their only parent dies? No. Family is family, whether you adopt, whether the kid is black, white or asian. Whether they have MJ's blo

od in their veins or some other guy from down the street, they are still Michael Jackson's children and nothing will change that. So all the DNA tests are useless, all this know it all attitude, and discussion about 'white kids' getting MJ's legacy is just useless, because they are his. They will always be his children.

People saying she wants to discover who her real father is, are just using this as an excuse to have yet another dig at Michael AND the kids. The girl just tried to hurt herself badly, yet the comments are on going. And these are from adults. EVEN IF, she did discover MJ wasn't her biological dad, Most adults should know there are few children who find out that they are adopted who go to shun and stop calling their parents who raised them "Mother and Father" just because they weren't biologically theirs. They get to know their biological parents but their love for their family doesn't stop. If you discovered now that your dad or mother wasn't biologically yours, would you somehow feel at home with your biological parents over your actual parents? Would you want to forget your mother and father who raised you from birth? No, that's unlikely.

Anyway that's my view. Most of the people who love to have endless digs about MJ's childrens dna lineage won't be happy until they go on Maury and there will probably never be a public DNA test to give your know it all attitudes an ego stroke if it turns out they were right. So what's the point? Like I said above, they are his, whether they are his, jermaines, tito's or bloody Maculay Culkins! Who cares if some person in a different state or country doesn't like it? They are Michael's 3 children! Forever and always will be.

Michael's kids should have been kept from the public eye for atleast 5 years, had time to be kids, to grieve, to move on... then... tell the world their story. But Michael's kids were thrust infront of various cameras, selling books, fizzy drinks, interviews on tasteless tv shows, signed up to movies, appearing for promotion. To go from unknown to being on the front cover of every magazine in the space of a few months is bizarre. All the while trying to deal with the tragic and public loss of your dad.

They have been interviewed on various tv shows around the world, their grief provided many with ratings and money, but did they actually have time to cope with the grief? Losing a parent suddenly, seeing your parent dead on the floor being pumped to try and bring him back to life. Then adjusting to a new family life, then the hoopla of the past four years. From the outside in, it's no wonder a grieving child would feel lost.

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[Edited 6/6/13 10:00am]

Nice post!