purplethunder3121 said:

Wow! People are really super-invested in the Jackson Family mess! Why? Can't people just appreciate the music, shake their heads at the family drama, and move on... Don't really get it...

you know how Jackson threads turn out they're a very controversial family,that's for sure! Expect this thread to go on forever,lol.

I believe that this family crazy in general ... From Michael (although he was a very talented man, so his madness does not stop me enjoying his work, it even gives him some artistic charm ), ending with his brothers and sisters, and especially parents.
Joe and Katherine knew how to raise the stars, but they do not know anything about the education of the human.

Tito, Marlon, Rebbie possible, and maybe Jackie - close to adequacy of mental, others - with the huge, giant weirdo.
Janet somewhere in the middle of my "crazy" list ...... after Michael, La Toyа and Jermaine, before the other children.

kibbles said:

lowkey said:

the whole purpose of this recent smear campaign against janet is to make people think she is crazy, greedy,broke, and beats up orphans...it didnt take much for it to work with the mj fanbase because most of them already hate her.its funny how all it took was signing her name to a letter challenging the executors to make people feel she has mental problems.i kinda remember somebody else being attacked in the media and declared crazy,broke, a child molester and all kinda other shit.

no, all it took was her helping to spirit her niece and nephews' guardian off to az, leaving them w/o contact with her for over a week, and then allowing her brother to release said letter to third-rate tabloid website instead of going thru her lawyers with her family business - which she eventually did when the shit hit the fan and blew in her direction.

there would be no smear campaign b/c no one was checking for janet in the first place, since the media have never been nearly as interested in being in her business as they were in her brother's.

Very good point Janet decided to get involved in this latest fiasco and she's now paying the price.She should have followed LaToya's lead and stayed out of it.

duccichucka said:

alphastreet said:

I don't hate her now, I just feel sorry for her sad ass right now. I'm not even michael's family member and his death fucked with my mind, she must feel worse. Look how fast she went back to work and how cold she acted from the start, and she said she didn't pay attention to media and updates to keep sane, something similar I was doing cause it was too much, and then going on to sound ignorant in interviews and despite all she heard at the murray trial. Now she's cracking up cause reality is hitting her that they might all come to her for money, and she resents michael for all this, it's an extension of the crap she felt in the 90's towards him that I believe more than ever though I thought it was BS then. So what does she do? Take it out on Katherine and Paris and think she's in control, no pun intended. She's not looking out for katherine, she's looking out for janet jackson. And speaking of katherine, she cries all the time in interviews now and I don't blame her, maybe janet was manipulating that and making her think she's getting her help, cause she needs to help herself....stop saying in interviews you love helping people, it doesn't count if you can't help yourself. I learned that the hard way and it's a shame she can't. I don't want to feel resentment towards her and then regret if she's gone one day, she just needs to check herself and get her act together.

Anyone have her cowboy's digits? Coffee enema samples? I can't wait to hear her new interludes, VR pt. 2 bitches!!!

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Expressing grief and sadness; and the presence of chaos and confusion after a beloved

family member has died, let alone probably the biggest star that was ever conceived, is

normal and not a "mental health issue."

Stop trying to pathologize Janet Jackson's behavior with no basis. Let a bitch mourn

for her brother's loss the way that normal Hollywood stars with money grabbing siblings

do.

Of course it's grief, and how he was killed can make anyone crazy, but she's had a past with depression she stated, and she acted so different in recent years before the death compared to the early 90's when she seemed so much happier on camera although what we read in True You contradicts how much she was suffering with trying to stay thin.

SEANMAN said:

Some of you people on here are crazier than the Jacksons could ever even dream to be The shit has died down, the storm has calmed, and nothing new has been on the horizon except for more of the usual lies from TMZ. and yet some moron starts up a thread just to say that Janet Jackson has mental issues? What in the FUCK? Get. A. Life. Dotcom. Janet Jackson is going about the business of living her life. It's a shame that some people with nothing more to do than sit on their fat asses and bitch and moan on a Prince forum haven't taken the same hint and gotten on with theirs. And yes, that stupid TMZ article is nothing but a bunch of lies. Janet bought that Vegas house for Katherine YEARS ago. It's not a condo, and there is no mortgage.

It's funny how whenever there is a positive Janet thread, some of you never even enter it, but whenever some silly shit like this is started up, a lot of you come in in droves and turn it into a 20-page thread of bullshit. And yet you worship at the feet of newbies, thugs and bitter old hags who are pathetically holding on to their long-gone youth. Haters are most definitely going to hate...

KISS IT

This is exactly why I don't talk to fellow janet fans, you guys are too fucking narrowminded to have discussions. A lot of people have mental health issues, and others in this thread have agreed too which is why the topic is interesting and has gotten so many responses since I last logged on. You jump on anyone that doesn't keep things simple, and want to continue being boring and same-y like she's been for much of the past decade.

SEANMAN said:

Stymie said:

SEANMAN said: This shit is hilarious. Is it just that it's Janet that this pisses y o u off so much? Do you not ever criticize or gossip about any celebrity?

I just detest it when simpletons create shit-starting threads like this. Although, coming from Alphastreet, it's really not a total shocker.

Dude we always talked about janet, and now your true colours are coming out cause I don't kiss her ass. Maybe you need to kiss that gif of yours dear.

Stymie said:

SEANMAN said:

I just detest it when simpletons create shit-starting threads like this. Although, coming from Alphastreet, it's really not a total shocker.

In defense of alpha, I don't think she is a simpleton. I also don't think the premise of this thread is so misplaced. I do think this topic can be discussed without personally attacking someone. I don't get how some fans get so defensive over people they don't know and probably have no clue of how that person is behind closed doors ( in general, not referencing you personally).

God bless you too

LiLi1992 said:

I believe that this family crazy in general ... From Michael (although he was a very talented man, so his madness does not stop me enjoying his work, it even gives him some artistic charm ), ending with his brothers and sisters, and especially parents.
Joe and Katherine knew how to raise the stars, but they do not know anything about the education of the human.

Tito, Marlon, Rebbie possible, and maybe Jackie - close to adequacy of mental, others - with the huge, giant weirdo.
Janet somewhere in the middle of my "crazy" list ...... after Michael, La Toyа and Jermaine, before the other children.

The fans are the crazy ones.

alphastreet said:

Stymie said:

SEANMAN said: In defense of alpha, I don't think she is a simpleton. I also don't think the premise of this thread is so misplaced. I do think this topic can be discussed without personally attacking someone. I don't get how some fans get so defensive over people they don't know and probably have no clue of how that person is behind closed doors ( in general, not referencing you personally).

God bless you too

I think you should be muted for a few weeks as punishment for this simple and unnecessary thread.

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Azz said:

alphastreet said:

God bless you too

I think you should be muted for a few weeks as punishment for this simple and unnecessary thread.

[Edited 8/22/12 6:02am]

I think you should ask a janet forum to recruit you as a nazi moderator. That's where you belong.

You can still love janet and not agree with everything she does you know.

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Azz said:

The fans are the crazy ones.

Are you talking about yourself? so self-critical.
Be a fan of each of Jackson ... except Michael, this is really very strange.

Azz said:

Some of us MJ fans can be off the wall at times, but in my years of talking to both mj and janet fanbases, and from my experience, mj ones are more openminded in general, can have interesting discussions and act way more intelligent and educated than the janet fans I've encountered. I'm not saying all janet fans are the opposite, but this is just what I've observed online.

SEANMAN said:

I just detest it when simpletons create shit-starting threads like this. Although, coming from Alphastreet, it's really not a total shocker.

It's really not that serious. Someone stated their opinion and you have the option of ignoring it or discussing your opposing one in a respectful manner. It's really not that hard. There's no need for personal attacks or to act like a douche because someone said something you didn't like about a celebrity you stan real hard for. At the end of the day it all just comes down to speculation unless someone here just happens to be personal friends with Janet Jackson.

Having mental health issues isn't really all that uncommon and Janet is no stranger to depression. It's not easy to deal with, especially considering that a family member she was pretty close to has passed away and things may be changing within the family. This is also a woman who has managed to be married to two drug addicts so...yeah.

So no matter how much you would be willing to eat the shit that comes out of her ass she's still a Jackson at the end of the day. The Jackson's in general have issues as all families do. She is no exception and you need to stop acting like she is.

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[Edited 8/22/12 6:59am]

Unholyalliance said:

SEANMAN said:

I just detest it when simpletons create shit-starting threads like this. Although, coming from Alphastreet, it's really not a total shocker.

It's really not that serious. Someone stated their opinion and you have the option of ignoring it or discussing your opposing one in a respectful manner. It's really not that hard. There's no need for personal attacks or to act like a douche because someone said something you didn't like about a celebrity you stan real hard for. At the end of the day it all just comes down to speculation unless someone here just happens to be personal friends with Janet Jackson.

Having mental health issues isn't really all that uncommon and Janet is no stranger to depression. It's not easy to deal with, especially considering that a family member has passed away and things may be changing within the family. This is also a woman who has managed to be married to two drug addicts so...yeah.

So no matter how much you would be willing to eat the shit that comes out of her ass she's still a Jackson at the end of the day. The Jackson's in general have issues as all families do. She is no exception and you need to stop acting like she is.

[Edited 8/22/12 6:58am]

alphastreet said:

Some of us MJ fans can be off the wall at times, but in my years of talking to both mj and janet fanbases, and from my experience, mj ones are more openminded in general, can have interesting discussions and act way more intelligent and educated than the janet fans I've encountered. I'm not saying all janet fans are the opposite, but this is just what I've observed online.

this is interesting ... Janet is not very popular in Eastern Europe and is seen by most people as the sister of Michael Jackson .... so all of her "fans" I know, it's MJ fans that's just love and support his younger sister.
Before I began to communicate with people on the English-language forums, I did not know at all that Janet has a separate fan base and a huge part of her fans are not fans of Michael ...
It was big news, because their character types as artists alike, but MJ is an artist much higher level.

musicology54 said:

Ok did an mj fan do something to you? Did they ever gang up on you besides prince.org? Not all of us are crazy like some of you interpret us.Azz said:

The fans are the crazy ones.

The definition of irony is lost Azz most of the time which makes their posts funny and sad. So I would just ignore and truly enjoy them for what they are good for: a good laugh.

LiLi1992 said:

alphastreet said:

Some of us MJ fans can be off the wall at times, but in my years of talking to both mj and janet fanbases, and from my experience, mj ones are more openminded in general, can have interesting discussions and act way more intelligent and educated than the janet fans I've encountered. I'm not saying all janet fans are the opposite, but this is just what I've observed online.

this is interesting ... Janet is not very popular in Eastern Europe and is seen by most people as the sister of Michael Jackson .... so all of her "fans" I know, it's MJ fans that's just love and support his younger sister.
Before I began to communicate with people on the English-language forums, I did not know at all that Janet has a separate fan base and a huge part of her fans are not fans of Michael ...
It was big news, because their character types as artists alike, but MJ is an artist much higher level.

This is true. She's mostly a r&b/pop US based artist, which is kinda sad too, because aside from Whitney there's a true lack of modern black female pop artists that I feel have truly achieved worldwide success. I could be wrong, but I feel that I am not. Maybe Rhianna, but she's mostly a singles singer. She's not even seen as a real artist at all. Just a pop star.

Scorp said:

thatruth said:

I've been following the Jackson family for a number of years, and never noticed that until you pointed it out, Scorp, and I agree with what you're saying.

It really gives me a headache everytime I listen to them speak in an interview because you're absolutely right, they do sound like teenagers, and they come off as nervous, uncomfortable, and at the end of the day, not believable.

I firmly believe that the family are easy marks for the media, but I'm starting to believe moreso that people in general are dumb as hell themselves for believing everything that comes out of the media.

When it comes to the Jackson family, I learned over the years not to believe a word that comes out of the media, over the years so many stories have floated out of the media about this family that's absolutely false, it took MJ's death to vindicate him of false information about him.

I try to stay neutral about the "stability" of the family, no family is perfect, I'm certainly not perfect, so I can't speak ill of another family just because there's issues going on with them. I've seen worst dysfunction in families, famous families, fathers punching out their sons, parents molesting/raping their daughters, doing children doing drugs with their parents, so I don't buy that "The Jacksons are the epitome of dysfunction", sell that to some other sucker.

exactly thatruth

this family is restricted now because of all the lies that has sprung forth for the past 25 years

if these people mentioned had to deal w/all that crap publically and world wide, they wouldn't be able to cope, THEY would be depressed and filled w/sadness, but they dont' think about that

Joe Jackson never took one dime of his kid's money, even Michael Jackson has admitted that on number of occassions....

whereas MacCauley Culkin had to sue his parents to get his money.....

Gary Coleman had to sue his adoptive parents for tying up all his money......

Michael Jackson or any other of the siblings ever had to do that.....

when the brothers do an interview, they can NEVER talk about their own musical talent, they can never talk about the great memories such as performing during the Triumph Tour

none of the siblings have ever been said to be strung out, especially during the age of all time drug experimentation in the late 70s, or the raging crack epidemic of the 80s

there's way more PRO than it is CON when the record is told straight

people think Joe Jackson was tough, they ain't even ready for the OSMOND's father George....

he was Joe Jackson times 10

[Edited 8/21/12 12:00pm]

Joe Jackson times 10? Now that's a bad mofo right there

LiLi1992 said:

alphastreet said:

Some of us MJ fans can be off the wall at times, but in my years of talking to both mj and janet fanbases, and from my experience, mj ones are more openminded in general, can have interesting discussions and act way more intelligent and educated than the janet fans I've encountered. I'm not saying all janet fans are the opposite, but this is just what I've observed online.

this is interesting ... Janet is not very popular in Eastern Europe and is seen by most people as the sister of Michael Jackson .... so all of her "fans" I know, it's MJ fans that's just love and support his younger sister.
Before I began to communicate with people on the English-language forums, I did not know at all that Janet has a separate fan base and a huge part of her fans are not fans of Michael ...
It was big news, because their character types as artists alike, but MJ is an artist much higher level.

Yeah I do find that people who don't keep up with pop culture/music don't know much about her other than being michael's jackson's sister....or for something like the superbowl which is degrading to her considering what she's accomplished. I've also noticed the same thing with Eastern Europeans and Russians I've met when they saw a janet poster years ago and asked if that's his sister

Though she was popular in Canada, I really think it was more in the states and kind of spilled over to us. I actually didn't know who she was until the 90's, but I knew who michael, prince and madonna were in the 80's. Heck I knew jermaine before her! But this is another topic altogether

I also don't get how janet fans can not like michael though they do their own thing too.

To me, I think Janet fans live in this bubble and they think of Janet as this big international star, they think she is the "normal" Jackson that cant do no wrong and feel she is more deserving than of the credit she gets...

To an extent they are right..... I do believe currently Janet is very underrated. However, alot of the accolades they claim she started first and should have I disagree with.Like with insisting she innovated New Jack Swing and how they diss Paula Abdul when she was the mastermind behind alot of Janets iconic choregraphy.

I seen ALOT of Janet fans make alot of very malicious and hateful comments about Michael even going as far as saying... "drop the coffin" on Janet xone which is a Janet forum. Just very very very very hateful and they didnt take the Conrad trial seriously at all or bother to find accurate information and they believe TMZ alot but when it comes to JANET their quick to dismiss a claim... FAST

I also think a big reason in why they dont like Michael is out of jealousy because he is more talented and is more successful than Janet and Janet forever lives in his shadow even with all she has accomplished herself BUT DESPITE knowing this they claim Janet is more talented, Janet is the better dancer, Janet can sing better, Janet has better concerts and music than Michael... JANET fans REALLY BELIEVE this shit ...

Everybody is entitled to their opinion...... but its very insulting and just straight haterade how they dog Michael TALENT wise to make Janet more superior. I know they are fans but they allow their fandom to blind their ability to be objective and rational when it comes to Janet.

mjscarousal said:

To me, I think Janet fans live in this bubble and they think of Janet as this big international star, they think she is the "normal" Jackson that cant do no wrong and feel she is more deserving than of the credit she gets...

To an extent they are right..... I do believe currently Janet is very underrated. However, alot of the accolades they claim she started first and should have I disagree with.Like with insisting she innovated New Jack Swing and how they diss Paula Abdul when she was the mastermind behind alot of Janets iconic choregraphy.

I seen ALOT of Janet fans make alot of very malicious and hateful comments about Michael even going as far as saying... "drop the coffin" on Janet xone which is a Janet forum. Just very very very very hateful and they didnt take the Conrad trial seriously at all or bother to find accurate information and they believe TMZ alot but when it comes to JANET their quick to dismiss a claim... FAST

I also think a big reason in why they dont like Michael is out of jealousy because he is more talented and is more successful than Janet and Janet forever lives in his shadow even with all she has accomplished herself BUT DESPITE knowing this they claim Janet is more talented, Janet is the better dancer, Janet can sing better, Janet has better concerts and music than Michael... JANET fans REALLY BELIEVE this shit ...

Everybody is entitled to their opinion...... but its very insulting and just straight haterade how they dog Michael TALENT wise to make Janet more superior. I know they are fans but they allow their fandom to blind their ability to be objective and rational when it comes to Janet.

I had a brief moment in the 90's when I felt I was more into janet than michael, but it's cause he wasn't putting much out, I had slowed down onbuilding my collection, and I could empathize with janet at the time like she was some pretty, popular girl who had angsty feelings, and I was a teenager back then. Most of her fans are idiots and though I like her overall catalogue better than the other dance artists from the 80's and early 90's, they have her beat in their skills separetely from hers though she has a good package overall. Paula dances way better than her, has a personality and has more exciting videos, I would rank them with MJ's, and she has worked with mj and his bros too, that tells you something. Jody Watley is another great example of a dancer who freestyles, something janet doesn't do, then there are people like Cherelle, Sheila E. and Karyn White that have really, really funky beats and have spunk and can sing, and though I like way more janet songs, most of them sound like bastardized imitations of songs that are raw. But know what, I wouldn't have known this if I associated with those janet fans cause most of them are young, immature and think madonna is the devil.

Also, Janet lasted longer than all of those female artists I named in mainstream, they all faded at the same time, all of them, except her, and it was not cause she's better or works harder, it's cause she's a jackson. I used to defend that too cause I believe she's her own person, but the last name is profitable and she was very high profile during Rhythm Nation and ended up with the biggest deal in history as a result of that success at the time after labels fought for her. Paula Abdul had a similar record to Janet's with how many top 5's she had off her first album, Jody Watley sang at the White House, just like MJ sang for Bill Clinton, even miss Jackson didn't do that, she is good too, but there are many great people as well and they fail to recognize that cause they are simpletons

I can't believe someone made the coffin comment, the same coffin their janet paid for! Janet's shows are good and Velvet Rope is in my top 3 of best concerts attended, and I would dance and workout to the DVD when it was released, but the minute I watched a full length michael jackson concert on tape rather than the few performances I owned, I went insane and psychotic and no one made me crazy like that though janet, and I would say Prince came close too.

LiLi1992 said:

Azz said:

The fans are the crazy ones.

Are you talking about yourself? so self-critical.
Be a fan of each of Jackson ... except Michael, this is really very strange.

I'm talking about both fanbases lol.

I don't understand the second comment?

Azz said:

LiLi1992 said:

Are you talking about yourself? so self-critical.
Be a fan of each of Jackson ... except Michael, this is really very strange.

I'm talking about both fanbases lol.

I don't understand the second comment?

Really?
you're a fan and supporter of any Jackson: Randy, Janet, Jermaine, Katherine, Joseph, etc.
but not Michael ...
the impression that you like all the Jacksons .... besides Jackson, who really had the talent and was the leader of the family .... I think it's weird.

mjscarousal said:

To me, I think Janet fans live in this bubble and they think of Janet as this big international star, they think she is the "normal" Jackson that cant do no wrong and feel she is more deserving than of the credit she gets...

To an extent they are right..... I do believe currently Janet is very underrated. However, alot of the accolades they claim she started first and should have I disagree with.Like with insisting she innovated New Jack Swing and how they diss Paula Abdul when she was the mastermind behind alot of Janets iconic choregraphy.

I seen ALOT of Janet fans make alot of very malicious and hateful comments about Michael even going as far as saying... "drop the coffin" on Janet xone which is a Janet forum. Just very very very very hateful and they didnt take the Conrad trial seriously at all or bother to find accurate information and they believe TMZ alot but when it comes to JANET their quick to dismiss a claim... FAST

I also think a big reason in why they dont like Michael is out of jealousy because he is more talented and is more successful than Janet and Janet forever lives in his shadow even with all she has accomplished herself BUT DESPITE knowing this they claim Janet is more talented, Janet is the better dancer, Janet can sing better, Janet has better concerts and music than Michael... JANET fans REALLY BELIEVE this shit ...

Everybody is entitled to their opinion...... but its very insulting and just straight haterade how they dog Michael TALENT wise to make Janet more superior. I know they are fans but they allow their fandom to blind their ability to be objective and rational when it comes to Janet.

1) Janet is an international star

2) The public have always said Janet is the normal Jackson. But the only people who are obsessing over that, are MJ fans. But in reality and in comparison, she is normal compared to Michael.

3) Paula was with Janet for like a year or two, Janet's career has spanned decades. Therefore the use of the world 'alot' is false. Tina is behind alot of Janets iconic choreography.

4) 'Control' did pioneer New Jack Swing. But ofcourse you will never accept that, as MJ with help from Teddy Riley later created their own New Jack Swing album.

5) Every fan base makes malicious comments about various artists, MJ's fans can sometimes be the worse. I saw MJ fans bullying and sending death threats to a 14 year old girl after getting permission from Paris. I don't know why you are acting as if you're surprised it happens.

6) Janet fans believe TMZ? That's funny, considering MJ fans have recently been beleiving every word that TMZ has spued against Janet.

7) If you actually open your eyes, you would realise that majority of Janet fans think of MJ highly (in terms of talent anyway) and site him as their favourite artist following Janet.

8) It actually seems like many MJ fans are threatened by Janet's success, and the fact her quality of music is equal or arguably higher.

9) You can't 'know' that someone is more talented, better at dancing, better at singing and better concerts. You are just reaching and chatting rubbish now. It's all about perspective and opinion. And in my opinion Janet is not more talented, nor better at dancing or singing. But I consider her creativity, quality of music to be of equal standard as MJ's, if not higher. Also her 'TVR' tour is the best tour out of both of them.

I don't see the point of your rant anyway.

[Edited 8/22/12 9:20am]

LiLi1992 said:

Azz said:

I'm talking about both fanbases lol.

I don't understand the second comment?

Really?
you're a fan and supporter of any Jackson: Randy, Janet, Jermaine, Katherine, Joseph, etc.
but not Michael ...
the impression that you like all the Jacksons .... besides Jackson, who really had the talent and was the leader of the family .... I think it's weird.

I own more Michael Jackson CDs than any other artist.

I prefer Michael and Janet to every other Jackson, but why wouldn't I?

[Edited 8/22/12 9:18am]

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

To me, I think Janet fans live in this bubble and they think of Janet as this big international star, they think she is the "normal" Jackson that cant do no wrong and feel she is more deserving than of the credit she gets...

To an extent they are right..... I do believe currently Janet is very underrated. However, alot of the accolades they claim she started first and should have I disagree with.Like with insisting she innovated New Jack Swing and how they diss Paula Abdul when she was the mastermind behind alot of Janets iconic choregraphy.

I seen ALOT of Janet fans make alot of very malicious and hateful comments about Michael even going as far as saying... "drop the coffin" on Janet xone which is a Janet forum. Just very very very very hateful and they didnt take the Conrad trial seriously at all or bother to find accurate information and they believe TMZ alot but when it comes to JANET their quick to dismiss a claim... FAST

I also think a big reason in why they dont like Michael is out of jealousy because he is more talented and is more successful than Janet and Janet forever lives in his shadow even with all she has accomplished herself BUT DESPITE knowing this they claim Janet is more talented, Janet is the better dancer, Janet can sing better, Janet has better concerts and music than Michael... JANET fans REALLY BELIEVE this shit ...

Everybody is entitled to their opinion...... but its very insulting and just straight haterade how they dog Michael TALENT wise to make Janet more superior. I know they are fans but they allow their fandom to blind their ability to be objective and rational when it comes to Janet.

1) Janet is an international star

2) The public have always said Janet is the normal Jackson. But the only people who are obsessing over that, are MJ fans. But in reality and in comparison, she is normal compared to Michael.

3) Paula was with Janet for like a year or two, Janet's career has spanned decades. Therefore the use of the world 'alot' is false. Tina is behind alot of Janets iconic choreography.

4) 'Control' did pioneer New Jack Swing. But ofcourse you will never accept that, as MJ with help from Teddy Riley later created their own New Jack Swing album.

5) Every fan base makes malicious comments about various artists, MJ's fans can sometimes be the worse. I saw MJ fans bullying and sending death threats to a 14 year old girl after getting permission from Paris. I don't know why you are acting as if your surprised it happens.

6) Janet fans believe TMZ? That's funny, considering MJ fans have recently been beleiving every word that TMZ has spued against Janet.

7) If you actually open your eyes, you would realise that majority of Janet fans think of MJ highly (in terms of talent anyway) and site him as their favourite artist following Janet.

8) It actually seems like many MJ fans are threatened by Janet's success, and the fact her quality of music is equal or arguably higher.

9) You can't 'know' that someone is more talented, better at dancing, better at singing and better concerts. You are just reaching and chatting rubbish now. It's all about perspective and opinion. And in my opinion Janet is not more talented, nor better at dancing or singing. But I consider her creativity, quality of music to be of equal standard as MJ's, if not higher. Also her 'TVR' tour is the best tour out of both of them.

I don't see the point of your rant anyway.

Yes I've heard them say that about New Jack Swing with the Cool Summer mix of Nasty, but JJ & TL were inspired by Prince and freestyle and funk music which I could hear all over Control's sound though with a new twist for it's time, and those are what Teddy Riley was also inspired by though overall these are all connected.

Paula's career spanned a long time, just in different avenues of entertainment while janet's was more consistent with music and acting. She is one of the best dancers of her time and still doesn't take credit for it. In fact, I think for most of the 00's, Paula may have been more of a popular public personality than Janet cause of American Idol, and I never would have expected that in the 90's after her sales slipped. I think janet and paula inspired each other back and forth really well and it's very closeminded to say Paula was with janet for 2 years and nothing else matters.

But I have to agree with you that Velvet Rope is the best concert I have attended in person. I would have said the Bad tour if I was present, but I was way too young and it didn't come here

Azz said:

LiLi1992 said:

Really?
you're a fan and supporter of any Jackson: Randy, Janet, Jermaine, Katherine, Joseph, etc.
but not Michael ...
the impression that you like all the Jacksons .... besides Jackson, who really had the talent and was the leader of the family .... I think it's weird.

I own more Michael Jackson CDs than any other artist.

I prefer Michael and Janet to every other Jackson, but why wouldn't I?

[Edited 8/22/12 9:18am]

That's weird sorry I had to

Azz said:

LiLi1992 said:

Really?
you're a fan and supporter of any Jackson: Randy, Janet, Jermaine, Katherine, Joseph, etc.
but not Michael ...
the impression that you like all the Jacksons .... besides Jackson, who really had the talent and was the leader of the family .... I think it's weird.

I own more Michael Jackson CDs than any other artist.

I prefer Michael and Janet to every other Jackson, but why wouldn't I?

[Edited 8/22/12 9:18am]

Till the day Janet (& his siblings) creates songs like Billie Jean, Who is it, Stranger in Moscow, they should never musically be compared. It's OK to like Janet better because we are all free thinkers, but musically speaking there's no comparison between the two. You seem to always attack MJ though, so if you have nothing constructive to say, why not be silent instead?

GoldDolphin said:

Azz said:

I own more Michael Jackson CDs than any other artist.

I prefer Michael and Janet to every other Jackson, but why wouldn't I?

[Edited 8/22/12 9:18am]

Till the day Janet (& his siblings) creates songs like Billie Jean, Who is it, Stranger in Moscow, they should never musically be compared. It's OK to like Janet better because we are all free thinkers, but musically speaking there's no comparison between the two. You seem to always attack MJ though, so if you have nothing constructive to say, why not be silent instead?

I haven't attacked MJ. Those are his best songs, I wouldn't want to compare but few songs to those.

[Edited 8/22/12 9:43am]