I thought I would start a new thread cause I figure when the jury comes back with its verdict, which I honestly think will be tomorrow(Friday), alot of people will be flooding to the topic with their opinions.

N as with a popular thread, like the first one, trolls will appear. Since this is the start of the weekend Im not going to have time to keep telling people to focus on the trial and its outcome. So please reign it in and lets not get emotional no matter what the outcome. There is a sticky for that.

Thank you.

lazycrockett said:

I thought I would start a new thread cause I figure when the jury comes back with its verdict, which I honestly think will be tomorrow(Friday), alot of people will be flooding to the topic with their opinions.

N as with a popular thread, like the first one, trolls will appear. Since this is the start of the weekend Im not going to have time to keep telling people to focus on the trial and its outcome. So please reign it in and lets not get emotional no matter what the outcome. There is a sticky for that.

Thank you.

Thanks for trying to keep your MJ trial threads topical and in line. I will be following the outcome of the trial on this thread mostly. If they held voting on here for mods, I would recommend you.

purplethunder3121 said:

lazycrockett said:

I thought I would start a new thread cause I figure when the jury comes back with its verdict, which I honestly think will be tomorrow(Friday), alot of people will be flooding to the topic with their opinions.

N as with a popular thread, like the first one, trolls will appear. Since this is the start of the weekend Im not going to have time to keep telling people to focus on the trial and its outcome. So please reign it in and lets not get emotional no matter what the outcome. There is a sticky for that.

Thank you.

Thanks for trying to keep your MJ trial threads topical and in line. I will be following the outcome of the trial on this thread mostly. If they held voting on here for mods, I would recommend you.

VERDICT WATCH!!!! Please someone post here when the verdict is in. I wanna watch CONrad murray squrim with fear as that jury comes back with a guilty verdict. And if not, I want to watch him walk out, and the fans mob him.

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can you define troll?

Because on the last thread a "troll" was someone who had a different opinion to your own.

^

If you are saying that then I have fear that lay people on the jury may come to the same conclusion.

Not criticizing you Nursev... just saying.

I still think Murray will walk.

prodigalfan said:

prodigalfan said:

^

If you are saying that then I have fear that lay people on the jury may come to the same conclusion.

Not criticizing you Nursev... just saying.

I still think Murray will walk.

Do you think that there is possibility that Conrad Murray's negligence was not related to MJ's death in any shape or form based on the cases presented? (Not on what was discussued or based on your previous knowledge.)

CONrad

If there was a history, he did not take it into account or assess him like he should have. And after that recording, he still ordered all that Propofol.

If he did CPR and called 911 and MJ didn't survive, it wouldn't have been as bad as it got,but he wasted those precious moments.

I am trying to prepare myself for the verdict. Even tho the prosecution put on a strong case, the verdict could go either way. Many think he will be convicted, but there is still a possibility that they could rule that he was not guilty. Or there could even be a hung jury.

alphastreet said:

nursev said:

alphastreet said:

If he did CPR and called 911 and MJ didn't survive, it wouldn't have been as bad as it got,but he wasted those precious moments.

Wasn't he attempting cpr though improper techniques and had to get security to clear a 911 call? Crazy! Then again he shouldve just called from that iphone he is negligent, but not solely responsible imho.

He should have called from one of his phones, and he used improper techniques. I caught someone on the board saying Murray did the right thing not moving MJ to the hard surface on the ground cause first aid teaches you to work on the patient how you found them, but from what I remember, you do that if the patient is found unconscious and something heavy on them that may have fallen on them, and you do CPR on them but not move them until they are hooked up to something.

During the 2005 trial, was the verdict given on the same day as the deliberations? I was so sure they had a day, but my memory fails me cause I was staying away from the TV and attending classes, so I found out a few hours after.

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One bad move with the spinal cord and it could mess everything up, I agree.

alphastreet said:

I was even more upset about that trial than this one though he was taken in an awful way, I still can't admit he's gone, and I'm still not over the accusations, that one makes me angry the most. Not only cause he was set up, but cause he trusted the wrong people and I allowed myself to get burnt out from defending him, and loving him hurts too much when I had to do it over and over :*( :*( :*( That one was horrifying and I prayed for him everyday, now I just hope his children are okay, no one can hurt him anymore, I see no use, it's the jurors that need prayers.

alphastreet said:

The IV version of 4 mg right? I know one pill is about .5, so that's where the 8 pills BS came from from the defense. I have taken ativan in the past, just one pill and it makes you so tired, only a wacko would give it in an IV form and then make claims he took the 8 while leaving it there for him, though we know he didn't do it. It still makes Murray look irresponsible.

nursev said:

alphastreet said:

I was even more upset about that trial than this one though he was taken in an awful way, I still can't admit he's gone, and I'm still not over the accusations, that one makes me angry the most. Not only cause he was set up, but cause he trusted the wrong people and I allowed myself to get burnt out from defending him, and loving him hurts too much when I had to do it over and over :*( :*( :*( That one was horrifying and I prayed for him everyday, now I just hope his children are okay, no one can hurt him anymore, I see no use, it's the jurors that need prayers.

Agree with all this.

The thought of him going to jail was just so awful I wish people would let it die down, but I feel so sorry for those who were not old enough to remember him as we do though I do believe it's changed a great deal and that there were always people out there of different ages who enjoyed him.

alphastreet said:

alphastreet said:

Yeah I knew lots of people who loved his music over the years, even during really bad times, and I would support him too publicly though it was painful like sticking up for someone I knew. It was nice performing to him, and then people remembering that when he passed away and asking if I'm ok, cause it makes me feel like I did my part in helping people remember why we love him instead of for the negative shit happening back then. A lot of people who knew I was a fan were supportive, only a couple of peope were insensitive....but I got a little upset when a kid, though she liked him, tried to tell me she remembered me being into him and asked if I still am,and then said she thought of me when he died, but felt kinda creepy for it. I told her it's a compliment not a bad thing,but it made me really sad about her age, cause there is no way anyone old enough to remember michael would even say that.

And yeah, he always will be, and his only competition onstage is Prince! Onstage, Prince is an all around musician, and MJ is the ultimate entertainer. Though I prefer Michael of the two, I've swung the other way several times.

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nursev said:

If jury watch goes past four hours we will have a not guilty or hung jury. If its lesser than that Conrad will have a cell mate

it's going on a hour and half now so we'll see

This is why I want to know from someone how long the jury took to decide the verdict from 6 years ago. Anyone that remembers?

L4OATheOriginal said: