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Reply #30 posted 11/04/11 10:08am

alphastreet

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^not to get off the subject of the verdict, but I have never believed Michael molested anybody! All a smear campaign/witch hunt. It is sad that younger people will never experience MJ as his older fans did. With that being said, if murray is guilty I hope he pays.

I don't either, but I feel really angry that the past 10 years with all it's stupid coverage over that and other garbage was trying to taint my memories of how I have remembered him for his music and videos since the mid 80's as a toddler. And I have felt angry with him too for trusting Bashir and the wrong people though I know I have to let go of that, and maybe I got selfish for a bit that's why though I cared about his well being too. I don't remember a time I didn't know who he was, even if from afar, the idea seems kind of foreign to me. I hope more people recognize him for all the good he did, cause I don't know how they don't hear it in the music. Yeah, I know people say that for some it's like a day job and all that shit, but some are genuine and others aren't, and I believe he (and janet) are some of the genuine ones that cared about helping others.

I wish I was older too, I knew him in passing if he was played or performed or mentioned or by luck and I had a Thriller toy or too, but it was around the mid 90's I rediscovered him, got into more work and became a huge fan. I was more into Madonna before and though I'm still a fan, I fell for him way more the minute I discovered more work smile

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Reply #31 posted 11/04/11 10:08am

nursev

Watching hln and nancy grace makes me sick! Overdramatic!
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Reply #32 posted 11/04/11 10:12am

alphastreet

They are the biggest drama queens in the world, I was done with them weeks ago. They give women in the media a bad name lol I'll bet if MJ came back to life this second, they'll fight over who gets to sleep with him

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Reply #33 posted 11/04/11 10:13am

nursev

alphastreet said:



nursev said:


not to get off the subject of the verdict, but I have never believed Michael molested anybody! All a smear campaign/witch hunt. It is sad that younger people will never experience MJ as his older fans did. With that being said, if murray is guilty I hope he pays.


I don't either, but I feel really angry that the past 10 years with all it's stupid coverage over that and other garbage was trying to taint my memories of how I have remembered him for his music and videos since the mid 80's as a toddler. And I have felt angry with him too for trusting Bashir and the wrong people though I know I have to let go of that, and maybe I got selfish for a bit that's why though I cared about his well being too. I don't remember a time I didn't know who he was, even if from afar, the idea seems kind of foreign to me. I hope more people recognize him for all the good he did, cause I don't know how they don't hear it in the music. Yeah, I know people say that for some it's like a day job and all that shit, but some are genuine and others aren't, and I believe he (and janet) are some of the genuine ones that cared about helping others.



I wish I was older too, I knew him in passing if he was played or performed or mentioned or by luck and I had a Thriller toy or too, but it was around the mid 90's I rediscovered him, got into more work and became a huge fan. I was more into Madonna before and though I'm still a fan, I fell for him way more the minute I discovered more work smile

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Trusting Bashir was a major mistake for Michael, he trusted too much which ultimately contributed to his death. I truli believe he trusted murray.
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Reply #34 posted 11/04/11 10:14am

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Cmon guys lets not bring up the past on this thread.

thanks.

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Reply #35 posted 11/04/11 10:17am

nursev

lazycrockett said:

Cmon guys lets not bring up the past on this thread.



thanks.




Sorry-back to the verdict. Almost two hrs now hmmm
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Reply #36 posted 11/04/11 10:17am

alphastreet

I don't understand why he couldn't do background checks on people. I keep saying I'm not mad at michael and I shouldn't be, I think I'm more mad and sad about how hurt I am, and imagining how much more pain his family feels if I'm just an outsider that felt a strong connection to him and his music and art. But seriously, I really wished a lot of times he had someone who had his best interests at heart, I know having a partner doesn't solve your problems, but he needed someone to trust and to love him for who he was.

I don't know if he trusted Murray, but if he did, it's the kind of trust people put in those in the medical profession. I've heard the theories about the AEG contract not being signed and him getting upset and doing it as a result, but the thought of anyone wanting to hurt him isn't sitting with me, I'm just in denial about everything. I truly feel like they already killed him years ago and this was the last straw.

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Reply #37 posted 11/04/11 10:18am

alphastreet

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Cmon guys lets not bring up the past on this thread.

thanks.

Yeah, was just killing time, but was also curious about whether most trials declare it not guilty if it's over 4 hours?

Didn't see this post on time by the way, my bad

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Reply #38 posted 11/04/11 10:25am

nursev

Anybody think we'll get a verdict today?
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Reply #39 posted 11/04/11 10:30am

alphastreet

I really hope so, it's going to be such a weird weekend if there isn't. It's better if they are focused today and just do it.

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Reply #40 posted 11/04/11 10:33am

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alphastreet said:

I really hope so, it's going to be such a weird weekend if there isn't. It's better if they are focused today and just do it.



Agreed and I know the jurors are probably tired by now.
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Reply #41 posted 11/04/11 10:35am

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From my understanding is the jury has to return within 2 hours of 4 PST to give the jackson family enough time to get to the courtroom.

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Reply #42 posted 11/04/11 10:39am

nursev

lazycrockett said:

From my understanding is the jury has to return within 2 hours of 4 PST to give the jackson family enough time to get to the courtroom.

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They said two hours after they have reached a verdict-this gives the family time enough to get to the court.
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Reply #43 posted 11/04/11 10:41am

alphastreet

So have they reached it or they are still deciding?

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Reply #44 posted 11/04/11 10:41am

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^But everything shuts down at 4 PST cause they cant afford the overtime of government employees.

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Reply #45 posted 11/04/11 10:43am

nursev

alphastreet said:

So have they reached it or they are still deciding?



Still deciding
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Reply #46 posted 11/04/11 10:44am

alphastreet

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^But everything shuts down at 4 PST cause they cant afford the overtime of government employees.

I really,really hope it's today, and the sooner, the better.

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Reply #47 posted 11/04/11 10:45am

nursev

lazycrockett said:

^But everything shuts down at 4 PST cause they cant afford the overtime of government employees.



I see
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Reply #48 posted 11/04/11 10:47am

nursev

Why do they keep bringing folks back from the OJ trial to comment on every trial including this one? Makes me barf
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Reply #49 posted 11/04/11 10:52am

alphastreet

And Ana Nicole

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Reply #50 posted 11/04/11 10:55am

nursev

alphastreet said:

And Ana Nicole



nod every trial you see marcia clark or darden! Sickening. Well, two hours and counting at least murray can't say the jury didn't give him a fair shake.
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Reply #51 posted 11/04/11 11:04am

nursev

Wow the protesters behaviors are interestin lol sixty year old conrad supporter said an mj supporter called her the b word. disbelief
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Reply #52 posted 11/04/11 11:11am

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The jury has asked to see evidence. So it may take some time.

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Reply #53 posted 11/04/11 11:16am

catpark

He has to be found gulity for this or there will be a public outcry.

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Reply #54 posted 11/04/11 11:17am

alphastreet

Or even worse, a riot

Okay I know I'm being dramatic, but honestly, it's not going to be pretty outside

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Reply #55 posted 11/04/11 11:19am

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Guys no one is going to riot, I don't even think the Dove Lady is there. biggrin

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Reply #56 posted 11/04/11 11:20am

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alphastreet said:

Or even worse, a riot

Okay I know I'm being dramatic, but honestly, it's not going to be pretty outside

Hell Nah

Its not going to be pretty inside OR out!

and I can only pray for his SAFETY that he be found guilty thats all Im saying...

Cause he is one dead man walking otherwise

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Reply #57 posted 11/04/11 11:20am

nursev

catpark said:

He has to be found gulity for this or there will be a public outcry.



Yeah it'll be ugly.
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Reply #58 posted 11/04/11 11:21am

alphastreet

LMAO Dove Lady, I was remembering her about 10 minutes ago and how reporters still reference that

What was it Nancy Grace did the last time cause she lost a bet? She ate something on the air right? Dumb bitch

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Reply #59 posted 11/04/11 11:23am

catpark

nursev said:

catpark said:

He has to be found gulity for this or there will be a public outcry.

Yeah it'll be ugly.

Very. Theres no way he can walk is.

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