daPrettyman said: Arnotts said: I know, I just know I'm going to be balling throughout the whole thing. I'm actually scared to go see it as just seeing the preview has already sparked some of the feelings I had when I first found out. I think seeing this movie will bring June 25th back all over again A concert movie is going to be that emotional for you guys? Not trying to sound cold or mean, but I loved MJ also and might have a tear or 2, but I have a feeling that we are going to be thoroughly entertained by the movie and there may be an emotional part or 2. Yeah, it really will. I'm still not really over it. My fandom had calmed down in the last two years but then when the concerts were announced I booked my tickets straight away without even thinking if it was possible for me to get there from Australia with my resources etc. And thats when I knew my fandom went right back up to 10 again. I was in concert preparation mode since March so it was a much harder blow then what it would of been if it had happened a year ago or so. Just having got into everything of his again as I had only been into the Jacksons/Jackson 5 stuff of his in my 'off' period. You know just remembering why I loved him again. Sorry to rant but yes, it will be extremely difficult to get through for me. | |
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That was it? What was trumpeted by Sony Music as a “brand new song” from the late pop singer Michael Jackson was officially unveiled to the world when it began streaming Sunday at midnight on MichaelJackson.com . The radio single This Is It, which arrives ahead of a forthcoming feature documentary film and two-CD set of the same name, is a saccharine-sweet love song, handsomely orchestrated and featuring the downy backing vocals of his older brothers. Mid-tempo with a finger-snapping beat, the major-key ballad begins (after Jackson counts it in, “1-2-3-4”) with a stirring opening line, "This is it, here I stand/ I'm the light of the world, I feel grand." Fans of the King of Pop might be feeling less than thrilled, however. The song is not new. Rather, it is an undisguised version of I Never Heard, a 1991 track co-written by Jackson and Paul Anka that appears on the album I Wasn’t Born Yesterday from New York dance-pop singer Safire. Her version is more upbeat, but the smooth melody is retained. Lyrics, which concern an unexpected set of romantic feelings (“Falling in love wasn’t my plan”), are mostly identical. No information was supplied by Sony as to the tune’s origin. “We just found the song,” said Rob Stringer, chairman of the Columbia/Epic Label Group, a Sony division. “It was titled “This Is It.” It was in a box, and we listened to it.” Stringer told the New York Times that Sony originally believed that the piano-and-vocal demo tape was made around the time of Jackson’s 1991 album Dangerous. A full arrangement, including backing vocals, waves of strings and, during one bridge, muted horns, was likely assembled posthumously. If the song’s past is murky, its release is certainly marks the start of somethin’ – surely there are more boxes of Jackson material in vaults, and future releases are anticipated. One would imagine that This Is It was chosen as the first single released since Jackson’s death because of it’s tie-in with the movie, a behind-the-scenes documentary surrounding the lead-up events to the complicated performer’s planned series of 50 concerts, to begin this summer, at London’s O2 Arena. The film arrives in theatres on Oct. 28, one day after the release of a double-disc album that packages greatest hits with demos and a spoken-word piece, entitled Planet Earth. The single, which will also appear as an orchestral version on the album, will not be released separately. The documentary takes it name from a quote from Jackson. When announcing his London concerts, the former Motown child star with the Jackson 5 declared that the shows would be both his comeback and curtain call: “This is the moment,” he said. “This is it.” Those last three words coincidently begin each verse of the Jackson-Anka tune, and as easy as A-B-C, the old song was resurrected for the project. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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When I heard the snippet, I was already thinking to myself that his voice sounded like it was from the 80's, so yeah that makes since. It was hard for me to listen to it but I do love it. I've lost the use of my heart, But I'm still alive, Still looking for the life, The endless pool on the other side, It's a wild wild west, I'm doing my best, I'm a soldier of love, Every day and night, I'm soldier of love, All the days of my life. | |
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Arnotts said: daPrettyman said: A concert movie is going to be that emotional for you guys? Not trying to sound cold or mean, but I loved MJ also and might have a tear or 2, but I have a feeling that we are going to be thoroughly entertained by the movie and there may be an emotional part or 2. Yeah, it really will. I'm still not really over it. My fandom had calmed down in the last two years but then when the concerts were announced I booked my tickets straight away without even thinking if it was possible for me to get there from Australia with my resources etc. And thats when I knew my fandom went right back up to 10 again. I was in concert preparation mode since March so it was a much harder blow then what it would of been if it had happened a year ago or so. Just having got into everything of his again as I had only been into the Jacksons/Jackson 5 stuff of his in my 'off' period. You know just remembering why I loved him again. Sorry to rant but yes, it will be extremely difficult to get through for me. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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bboy87 said: Graycap23 said: I will never insult me ears again with that track. It's not that bad From what I hearing, this was a demo from 1980 just like his demo of Love Never Felt So Good That's what it sounds like to me. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: Arnotts said: Yeah, it really will. I'm still not really over it. My fandom had calmed down in the last two years but then when the concerts were announced I booked my tickets straight away without even thinking if it was possible for me to get there from Australia with my resources etc. And thats when I knew my fandom went right back up to 10 again. I was in concert preparation mode since March so it was a much harder blow then what it would of been if it had happened a year ago or so. Just having got into everything of his again as I had only been into the Jacksons/Jackson 5 stuff of his in my 'off' period. You know just remembering why I loved him again. Sorry to rant but yes, it will be extremely difficult to get through for me. I can´t even imagine my reactions to the film, cause I have been feeling OK recently. Not heart-broken as the first one or two months after his death. But just yesterday I watched the Untold Story of Neverland and I totally broke down when at the end, they said that he died of cardiac arrest on 25th....I just lost it. I am just totally not thinking about his death anymore but when I realize it, it hurts as much as it did the second I found out about it. Anyway, love the new song. I was never that crazy about that Safire´s version, but Mike´s so cool. I´ll miss you forever, Mike. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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daPrettyman said: bboy87 said: It's not that bad From what I hearing, this was a demo from 1980 just like his demo of Love Never Felt So Good That's what it sounds like to me. It does sound like the demo from the 80's on certain parts, but it's supposedly the demo from 1990 | |
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I think the song sounds fine. I think that some people are expecting way too much from the unreleased tracks.michael did not release these songs when he was living so they are mostly demos.I love hearing his voice and I like the song. Michael's demos sound 100 times better than most of the stuff out today. "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: daPrettyman said: That's what it sounds like to me. It does sound like the demo from the 80's on certain parts, but it's supposedly the demo from 1990 Maybe it's a mixture of vocals? We know the brothers vocals were from the 80s. They wouldn't get back in the and cut new vocals. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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mimi07 said: I think the song sounds fine. I think that some people are expecting way too much from the unreleased tracks.michael did not release these songs when he was living so they are mostly demos.I love hearing his voice and I like the song. Michael's demos sound 100 times better than most of the stuff out today.
I read somewhere that MJ was planning to release this several times. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: mimi07 said: I think the song sounds fine. I think that some people are expecting way too much from the unreleased tracks.michael did not release these songs when he was living so they are mostly demos.I love hearing his voice and I like the song. Michael's demos sound 100 times better than most of the stuff out today.
I read somewhere that MJ was planning to release this several times. Michael Jackson's new song: That was it? Our first listen: This Is It is a saccharine-sweet love song. Is more coming? That was it? What was trumpeted by Sony Music as a “brand new song” from the late pop singer Michael Jackson was officially unveiled to the world when it began streaming Sunday at midnight on MichaelJackson.com . The radio single This Is It, which arrives ahead of a forthcoming feature documentary film and two-CD set of the same name, is a saccharine-sweet love song, handsomely orchestrated and featuring the downy backing vocals of his older brothers. Mid-tempo with a finger-snapping beat, the major-key ballad begins (after Jackson counts it in, “1-2-3-4”) with a stirring opening line, "This is it, here I stand/ I'm the light of the world, I feel grand." Fans of the King of Pop might be feeling less than thrilled, however. The song is not new. Rather, it is an undisguised version of I Never Heard, a 1991 track co-written by Jackson and Paul Anka that appears on the album I Wasn’t Born Yesterday from New York dance-pop singer Safire. Her version is more upbeat, but the smooth melody is retained. Lyrics, which concern an unexpected set of romantic feelings (“Falling in love wasn’t my plan”), are mostly identical. No information was supplied by Sony as to the tune’s origin. “We just found the song,” said Rob Stringer, chairman of the Columbia/Epic Label Group, a Sony division. “It was titled “This Is It.” It was in a box, and we listened to it.” Stringer told the New York Times that Sony originally believed that the piano-and-vocal demo tape was made around the time of Jackson’s 1991 album Dangerous. A full arrangement, including backing vocals, waves of strings and, during one bridge, muted horns, was likely assembled posthumously. If the song’s past is murky, its release is certainly marks the start of somethin’ – surely there are more boxes of Jackson material in vaults, and future releases are anticipated. One would imagine that This Is It was chosen as the first single released since Jackson’s death because of it’s tie-in with the movie, a behind-the-scenes documentary surrounding the lead-up events to the complicated performer’s planned series of 50 concerts, to begin this summer, at London’s O2 Arena. The film arrives in theatres on Oct. 28, one day after the release of a double-disc album that packages greatest hits with demos and a spoken-word piece, entitled Planet Earth. The single, which will also appear as an orchestral version on the album, will not be released separately. The documentary takes it name from a quote from Jackson. When announcing his London concerts, the former Motown child star with the Jackson 5 declared that the shows would be both his comeback and curtain call: “This is the moment,” he said. “This is it.” Those last three words coincidently begin each verse of the Jackson-Anka tune, and as easy as A-B-C, the old song was resurrected for the project. "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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this is 2009, they huld release it on itunes. SONY is still shady as hell "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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daPrettyman said: mimi07 said: I think the song sounds fine. I think that some people are expecting way too much from the unreleased tracks.michael did not release these songs when he was living so they are mostly demos.I love hearing his voice and I like the song. Michael's demos sound 100 times better than most of the stuff out today.
I read somewhere that MJ was planning to release this several times. He, Prince, and Stevie are known for doing that: working on songs for years until they're just right Let's go down the list -Wanna Be Startin' Somethin': written and demoed during the 1978-1979 Off The Wall sessions but held it back from Quincy because he didn't feel comfortable about it yet. Even after he did during the Thriller sessions, and released and being a hit single AND being a staple in his live show, he still was disappointed in it -Dirty Diana: written and demoed in 1983 THEN again in 1984 THEN again in 1985 along with Speed Demon, The Way You Make Me Feel, and Smooth Criminal. Recorded the final version in either late 1986 or early 1987 -Another Part Of Me: written and recorded in early 1985 for Captain EO then remixed for Bad in 1986 -Liberian Girl: written and demoed in 1983 for Victory then held back for Bad -For All Time: demoed for Thriller then redone over the years and then recorded in 1990 for Dangerous but left off the album, added some more vocals for Thriller 25 -Little Susie: written and demoed in 1979, done in 1989 for the Decade project then re-recorded in 1994 for HIStory -Earth Song, They Don't Care About Us, Blood On The Dancefloor, and Superfly Sister are all from the 1989-1991 Dangerous sessions. (Earth Song was supposed to have Shirley Ceasar featured) "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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WaterInYourBath said: But where have I heard that line "this is it," sung in the exact same way before? And I'm not talking about Safire's version. I've heard that line in another song, but I'm too consumed in this new release to remember right now.
....."Its time for u to go to the wire" ....."Sh-boogie bop" [Edited 10/12/09 10:33am] "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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bboy87 said: 1. I LOVE IT!!!!
2. This was written in 1980 BUT Michael tried it out for Dangerous in 1990 or 1991 but then gave it to Safire but THEN reworked it for the o2 shows/ next album. Also, if you notice, it has a similar melody to Bless His Soul yeah it kinda reminds me of I Just Can’t Stop Loving You also "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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I’m not gonna lie, the song is good but NOT great, better than the outrageous music we hear today on radios….its always great to hear a new MJ tune.
Fuck sony for using a track that MJ felt it wasn’t good enough to make the final cut, the song represents 0% of what Mj had recorded in the past years , Mj had gems still stored in the vault, I pray to god that sony don’t have any control over any track recorded in the past 7 or 8 years , I don’t want them to misuse his songs……… [Edited 10/12/09 10:27am] MICHAEL JACKSON
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seeingvoices12 said: I’m not gonna lie, the song is good but NOT great, better than the outrageous music we hear today on radios….its always great to hear a new MJ tune.
Fuck sony for using a track that MJ felt it wasn’t good enough to make the final cut, the song represents 0% of what Mj had recorded in the past years , Mj had gems still stored in the vault, I pray to god that sony don’t have any control over any track recorded in the past 7 or 8 years , I don’t want them to misuse his songs……… [Edited 10/12/09 10:27am] I don't think that was the case. They were looking and saw a tape titled This Is It, played it and said "This is a perfect tie in with the movie!" not to mention, it's always great to hear material from the 1980-1989 period Now the right thing to do would be Sony hiring me to take care all of Michael's unreleased material.... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Even though it would have been quite sad and perhaps morbid, they should have released this instead.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Fsjc7nUs0A "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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bboy87 said: seeingvoices12 said: I’m not gonna lie, the song is good but NOT great, better than the outrageous music we hear today on radios….its always great to hear a new MJ tune.
Fuck sony for using a track that MJ felt it wasn’t good enough to make the final cut, the song represents 0% of what Mj had recorded in the past years , Mj had gems still stored in the vault, I pray to god that sony don’t have any control over any track recorded in the past 7 or 8 years , I don’t want them to misuse his songs……… [Edited 10/12/09 10:27am] I don't think that was the case. They were looking and saw a tape titled This Is It, played it and said "This is a perfect tie in with the movie!" not to mention, it's always great to hear material from the 1980-1989 period Now the right thing to do would be Sony hiring me to take care all of Michael's unreleased material.... I read somewhere that he was going to incorporate the song in the tour/show somehow, but didn't get the chance to. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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carlcranshaw said: Even though it would have been quite sad and perhaps morbid, they should have released this instead.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Fsjc7nUs0A THIS is what I want to hear along with any Bad outtakes "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: seeingvoices12 said: I’m not gonna lie, the song is good but NOT great, better than the outrageous music we hear today on radios….its always great to hear a new MJ tune.
Fuck sony for using a track that MJ felt it wasn’t good enough to make the final cut, the song represents 0% of what Mj had recorded in the past years , Mj had gems still stored in the vault, I pray to god that sony don’t have any control over any track recorded in the past 7 or 8 years , I don’t want them to misuse his songs……… [Edited 10/12/09 10:27am] I don't think that was the case. They were looking and saw a tape titled This Is It, played it and said "This is a perfect tie in with the movie!" not to mention, it's always great to hear material from the 1980-1989 period Now the right thing to do would be Sony hiring me to take care all of Michael's unreleased material.... you would give me some unreleased songs if you have the chance ...would you? or you would keep them to yourself? I don't have a problem as long as you share MICHAEL JACKSON
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You can tell the song wasn't even finished, it was just copy and paste. | |
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Timmy84 said: You can tell the song wasn't even finished, it was just copy and paste.
fuck sony..they found the song in a box. MICHAEL JACKSON
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seeingvoices12 said: Timmy84 said: You can tell the song wasn't even finished, it was just copy and paste.
fuck sony..they found the song in a box. Yeah I read what they said... they're some lazy-ass mothafuckas. | |
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seeingvoices12 said: bboy87 said: I don't think that was the case. They were looking and saw a tape titled This Is It, played it and said "This is a perfect tie in with the movie!" not to mention, it's always great to hear material from the 1980-1989 period Now the right thing to do would be Sony hiring me to take care all of Michael's unreleased material.... you would give me some unreleased songs if you have the chance ...would you? or you would keep them to yourself? I don't have a problem as long as you share There would be a new Michael Jackson album either 6 months to a year if I was in charge Have you seen my ideas: The Michael Jackson section in store would be packed FIRST, I'd re-release Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, HIStory, Blood On The Dancefloor, and Invincible one more time to get proper remastering and new packaging like the recent Japanese paper sleeve releases Off The Wall would have the original mixes, the demos from the 2001 Special Edition, Sunset Driver, and the single mixes AND more unreleased tracks Thriller would have all the demos, unreleased songs, new packaging.....the works Bad would have the original 1987 mixes, single mixes, unreleased tracks, demos Dangerous.....I'm still working on HIStory would only come with "HIStory Continues", and 8 unreleased tracks BOTDF.....same Invincible....it would a completely different album THEN I'd release a remix album that didn't suck then release a 4 CD set of unreleased material then BAD TOUR DVD "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: seeingvoices12 said: you would give me some unreleased songs if you have the chance ...would you? or you would keep them to yourself? I don't have a problem as long as you share There would be a new Michael Jackson album either 6 months to a year if I was in charge Have you seen my ideas: The Michael Jackson section in store would be packed FIRST, I'd re-release Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, HIStory, Blood On The Dancefloor, and Invincible one more time to get proper remastering and new packaging like the recent Japanese paper sleeve releases Off The Wall would have the original mixes, the demos from the 2001 Special Edition, Sunset Driver, and the single mixes AND more unreleased tracks Thriller would have all the demos, unreleased songs, new packaging.....the works Bad would have the original 1987 mixes, single mixes, unreleased tracks, demos Dangerous.....I'm still working on HIStory would only come with "HIStory Continues", and 8 unreleased tracks BOTDF.....same Invincible....it would a completely different album THEN I'd release a remix album that didn't suck then release a 4 CD set of unreleased material then BAD TOUR DVD Send your C.V already Plus, I hope it happens but it won't.....lol [Edited 10/12/09 10:53am] MICHAEL JACKSON
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Timmy84 said: seeingvoices12 said: fuck sony..they found the song in a box. Yeah I read what they said... they're some lazy-ass mothafuckas. they should have released "place with No name",since TMZ leaked the snippet of the song, Im sure they were plaaning to leak the whole thing, but they recieved a death threat from sony. MICHAEL JACKSON
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seeingvoices12 said: Timmy84 said: Yeah I read what they said... they're some lazy-ass mothafuckas. they should have released "place with No name",since TMZ leaked the snippet of the song, Im sure they were plaaning to leak the whole thing, but they recieved a death threat from sony. Sony's hands are kinda tied at the moment when it comes to his unreleased material. They probably saw "This Is It" as a great tie in with the movie and it's the movie's closing theme, which makes perfect since A Place With No Name is kinda old too. It was recorded in 1998 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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seeingvoices12 said: Timmy84 said: Yeah I read what they said... they're some lazy-ass mothafuckas. they should have released "place with No name",since TMZ leaked the snippet of the song, Im sure they were plaaning to leak the whole thing, but they recieved a death threat from sony. They're alright in keeping everything locked but when it's time for them to release something, it's halfway. | |
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Timmy84 said: You can tell the song wasn't even finished, it was just copy and paste.
right. so i don't understand some posters who believe that mj was going to release this in connection with the o2 concerts. they were only weeks away at the time of his death; wouldn't the song have been 'finished', or at least 99% finished by june 25? does anyone here really think mj would have had his brothers singing back up at this late date? puh-leaze. obvious money grab by 'we saw it in a box' sony, and an attempt to appease the brothers by branca and mcclain by throwing some money their way so that hopefully they won't be breathing down katherine's neck to try to get her to replace them as administrators of mj's estate so that the brothers and others can benefit more from the estate. (it won't work; she'll still challenge, but the judge isn't removing branca or mcclain anytime soon.) | |
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