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Reply #210 posted 10/12/09 12:57am

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Yeah, its disappointing. I know he's got better stuff in the vault. Don't get me wrong, it's good and all, just not deserving of the hype they put on it. There surely were better choices for his first posthumous release.

I'm looking forward to the motown stuff now.
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Reply #211 posted 10/12/09 1:09am

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EmeraldSkies said:

So was This Is It recorded during the Dangerous sessions? or was it the Off The Wall sessions? There are some that are saying that they feel that the Jackson Brothers had there vocals added to the backing vocals,and that the song originally wasn't with them singing back up.


The ORIGINAL "This Is It" was written and recorded by Michael in 1980 and copyrighted in 1984. The version Sony released was re-recorded during the Dangerous session/era. Sony stay tryna make a quick buck. Just like they told us they was releasing the ORIGINAL demo of "For All Time" from the Thriller session, when they released the re-recorded version from Dangerous session instead.
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Reply #212 posted 10/12/09 1:15am

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What they really need to do is release the full version of "I'll Be There" that was used for the Pepsi promo, and the full adult version of "Never Can Say Goodbye" from the unreleased Decade album. There is so much amazing stuff out there they have not released. No rush, I suppose, but they really should have just included this as a bonus track or something, not as a selling point for an album of material we all own and now half the world owns seeing as how much of his material was gobbled up after death.

Compilation albums are a fact of life, especially for artists of his magnitude, but come on.
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Reply #213 posted 10/12/09 2:04am

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1. I LOVE IT!!!!

2. This was written in 1980 BUT Michael tried it out for Dangerous in 1990 or 1991 but then gave it to Safire but THEN reworked it for the o2 shows/ next album. Also, if you notice, it has a similar melody to Bless His Soul
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Reply #214 posted 10/12/09 2:32am

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Reply #215 posted 10/12/09 2:32am

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bboy87 said:

1. I LOVE IT!!!!

2. This was written in 1980 BUT Michael tried it out for Dangerous in 1990 or 1991 but then gave it to Safire but THEN reworked it for the o2 shows/ next album. Also, if you notice, it has a similar melody to Bless His Soul

How come it sounds straight out of 1980 then? Even the vocals.
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Reply #216 posted 10/12/09 2:51am

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i don't care hether it was recorded in 1980, 1990 or 2009. it's something new!

it sorta sounds like a demo cause it probably is but michael sounds amazing, it's a really beautiful song

"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #217 posted 10/12/09 2:52am

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bboy87 said:

1. I LOVE IT!!!!

2. This was written in 1980 BUT Michael tried it out for Dangerous in 1990 or 1991 but then gave it to Safire but THEN reworked it for the o2 shows/ next album. Also, if you notice, it has a similar melody to Bless His Soul


Yep, Bless His Soul came to my mind as well.

But Jay, from where do you know MJ really reworked the song for the concerts?

And the vocals? Do you think they're from 1980 or from Dangerous era?

He sounds too young for Dangerous era, but maybe he's pitched?
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Reply #218 posted 10/12/09 2:56am

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Superstition said:

Well, This Is It would make a fine bonus track or extra cut on something, but as a song hyped as his first posthumous "single", it's a bit of a letdown. It's a decent track and all, just not worthy of the hype it's been given. There had to have been a better, likely newer ballad he had been working on that would have fit better. Maybe the orchestral version will be better.



yeah, after all, he gave the song away.
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Reply #219 posted 10/12/09 3:01am

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purplesweat said:

EmeraldSkies said:



I believe Michael was going to sing this song during the o2 tours.


What makes you say that?


It's all based on speculation. Whoever claims MJ was reworking the track in the last few years is just speculating.

What we know for sure is: He gave the song away in 1991, with anther name.

Who tells us this is the This Is It song copyrighted in 1984?

Might as well be that they knew I Never Heard features the line this is it and chose that song.
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Reply #220 posted 10/12/09 3:02am

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EmeraldSkies said:

tangerine7 said:


fom what bboy87 said its both he posted a few pages back


I found what he said. So it was recorded in 1980 for either the Destiny or Triumph albums,but wasn't used,so maybe this is the original recording,and that is why if brothers are on the backing vocals.


I think the brothers recorded the vocals in 2009. As usual, they try to make money with MJ and it pushes the nostalgia factor.
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Reply #221 posted 10/12/09 3:04am

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Timmy84 said:

I just heard it, it sounds like a 1980 demo with MJ's vocals.


Yeah, that's the thing. His voice sounds really young. He didn't have that young voice in 1990 anymore. But probably they pitched it a little?

Didn't MJ write the song "Love Never Felt So Good" with Paul Anka as well?

Probably it's from the same sessions - 1983/84?
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Reply #222 posted 10/12/09 3:09am

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CRAZY lol the song has it's own secret service

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Reply #223 posted 10/12/09 3:54am

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I like the new song.
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Reply #224 posted 10/12/09 4:55am

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mimi07 said:





Boooring ballad, very disappointing. sad
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Reply #225 posted 10/12/09 5:49am

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I heard it this morning and it's kind of meh, i'll need to listen to it again. So is MJ's new album actually going to come out or is this 'This Is It' comp the final album, i heard that he was doing some stuff with Will.i.am and the 'Let Me Let Go' track doing the rounds sounds great, anyone have any info on this?


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Reply #226 posted 10/12/09 5:56am

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bigd74 said:

I heard it this morning and it's kind of meh, i'll need to listen to it again. So is MJ's new album actually going to come out or is this 'This Is It' comp the final album, i heard that he was doing some stuff with Will.i.am and the 'Let Me Let Go' track doing the rounds sounds great, anyone have any info on this?


cool


Yeah, Let Me Let Go ain't MJ


This is It is shoddy.

Also, melodies are almost exactly the same as 3T Why.
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Reply #227 posted 10/12/09 6:45am

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That new song is WACK.
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Reply #228 posted 10/12/09 6:52am

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Graycap23 said:

That new song is WACK.

It's not grabbing me either. I see why it was left on the cutting room floor. For me, I think it's the arrangement moreso than the song.
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Reply #229 posted 10/12/09 6:58am

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Graycap23 said:

That new song is WACK.

It's not grabbing me either. I see why it was left on the cutting room floor. For me, I think it's the arrangement moreso than the song.

I will never insult me ears again with that track.
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Reply #230 posted 10/12/09 6:59am

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Graycap23 said:

daPrettyman said:


It's not grabbing me either. I see why it was left on the cutting room floor. For me, I think it's the arrangement moreso than the song.

I will never insult me ears again with that track.

U aren't seeing the movie?
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Reply #231 posted 10/12/09 7:00am

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The song kinda muddles along, no crescendo, quick fadeout, definately a demo. Pleasant enough, it is what it is, a Sonyfied cash-in.
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Reply #232 posted 10/12/09 7:01am

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Graycap23 said:


I will never insult me ears again with that track.

U aren't seeing the movie?

The DVD will be out in December.
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Reply #233 posted 10/12/09 7:15am

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I'm wondering if the version that will be on the album will be better produced? Surely this can't be the version that makes it to album?

Like I said, I definitely don't think it's bad, but I can't imagine them leaving it like this on the album. Background vocals sound good, but the countdown at the beginning, some of the instrumentation and MJ's vocals sound muddy.
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Reply #234 posted 10/12/09 7:21am

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Yeah, its disappointing. I know he's got better stuff in the vault. Don't get me wrong, it's good and all, just not deserving of the hype they put on it. There surely were better choices for his first posthumous release.

I'm looking forward to the motown stuff now.


my thoughts exactly , i was not that impressed either and he probally has more interesting adult stuff. i rank the J5 song higher then this, and im looking forward to it
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Reply #235 posted 10/12/09 7:29am

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Did u guys see the vinyl for "This Is It"?
http://www.sonymusicdigit...vinyloffer
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Reply #236 posted 10/12/09 7:36am

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So am I... neutral sigh

hug


hug i don't know how i'm gonna get thru this movie

I know, I just know I'm going to be balling throughout the whole thing. I'm actually scared to go see it as just seeing the preview has already sparked some of the feelings I had when I first found out. I think seeing this movie will bring June 25th back all over again sad

But of course I would never forgive myself if I didnt get a chance to see this on the big screen. But it will just remind me of what I missed out on. By the way has anyone got there tickets yet? I got an email saying mine was sent, but that was about 3 weeks ago.
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Reply #237 posted 10/12/09 7:38am

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Arnotts said:

mimi07 said:



hug i don't know how i'm gonna get thru this movie

I know, I just know I'm going to be balling throughout the whole thing. I'm actually scared to go see it as just seeing the preview has already sparked some of the feelings I had when I first found out. I think seeing this movie will bring June 25th back all over again sad

A concert movie is going to be that emotional for you guys? Not trying to sound cold or mean, but I loved MJ also and might have a tear or 2, but I have a feeling that we are going to be thoroughly entertained by the movie and there may be an emotional part or 2.
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Reply #238 posted 10/12/09 7:49am

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WildStyle said:

bboy87 said:

1. I LOVE IT!!!!

2. This was written in 1980 BUT Michael tried it out for Dangerous in 1990 or 1991 but then gave it to Safire but THEN reworked it for the o2 shows/ next album. Also, if you notice, it has a similar melody to Bless His Soul

How come it sounds straight out of 1980 then? Even the vocals.

You're right

I had to check with someone about it last night

it's from 1980, just with new overdubs and new vocals from his brothers
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Reply #239 posted 10/12/09 7:50am

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Graycap23 said:

daPrettyman said:


It's not grabbing me either. I see why it was left on the cutting room floor. For me, I think it's the arrangement moreso than the song.

I will never insult me ears again with that track.

It's not that bad

From what I hearing, this was a demo from 1980 just like his demo of Love Never Felt So Good
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