LoveGalore said:

Imagine thinking artists were "for the most part" not under the queer umbrella. Hilarious.

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Imagine not being an obsessive stalker just because you failed to convince people of your gay checklist!

IanRG said:

LoveGalore said:

IanRG said:

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Imagine not being an obsessive stalker just because you failed to convince people of your gay checklist!

What, is this your thread now and I'm not allowed to reply to it? Grow up.

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Nice try but just another waste of time post. Yawn.

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The only good thing about it is it just shows your frustration about not being able to address the topic with anything believable

IanRG said:

RJOrion said:

LoveGalore said: "...it was all a show to attract women because obviously heterosexual women are attracted to the sight of Prince taking Kirk's dick...." --------------------------------- "...Here we are in this big old empty room Staring each other down You want me just as much as I want you Lets stop foolin around..." -Prince Rogers Nelson: The Ballad Of Kirky's Johnson (unreleased)

ROTFLOL

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...and I'm gay. ))))

LoveGalore said:

JorisE73 said:

But anyway, I don't think Prince would have been accused of appropriating Funkfreak and hippy glam rock styles. He was just heavily inspired by them Especially the Parliament-Funkadelic style of freakyness of (straight) men running around in close to nothing.

Yeah, if you kick PF up like 20 notches, sure. Prince is not an analog to any one other rock star and has elevated the rockstar aesthetic by borrowing things from glam rock, funk rock, blues rock, hip hop, black culture, Latino and Hispanic cultures, Asian cultures, and GAY CULTURE. The only thing this thread is doing is giving anxiety to all the fragile heterosexuals who think that admitting they like something a little gay is gonna be the gateway drug to THEM being fucked on stage by Kirky J.

There we go again. What is 'Gay Culture?'

Again, explain me. I'm gay.

Although nevermind.

I asked this question pages ago in this thread.

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Vannormal said:

Eat ass, not each other.

LoveGalore said:

IanRG said:

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Nice try but just another waste of time post. Yawn.

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The only good thing about it is it just shows your frustration about not being able to address the topic with anything believable

I already said all there is to say and proved multiple points with context and evidence in abundance. You're just some guy who wouldn't even wear lace panties for ur woman.

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No you have not, not once, not ever - except for your gay checklist, which virtually every gay man in Minneapolis in 1980 would fail, but straight glam rockers etc. from Prince's formative years would pass.

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You've done me so here is my also completely made up assumption on your underwear. Multicoloured and you can see your ass through them in places - but only because long, long ago they would have been called tidy whities.

paisleyparkgirl said:

RJOrion said:

Of course not... most people believe/believed Prince was gay/bisexual himself.

But he wasn't that's the thing. He's even said so himself (his song "Don't Play Me" for exemple).

He just wanted to keep people guessing. Was part of the mystery......

Seahorsie said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

But he wasn't that's the thing. He's even said so himself (his song "Don't Play Me" for exemple).

He just wanted to keep people guessing. Was part of the mystery......

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And yet he unequivocally said no he is not gay in Uptown and his responce to not believing what people say when they question his race (he is Black) and his sexuality (he is straight) etc was to lead his audience in praying the Lord's Prayer as a way of handling the controversies he and others can face.

TrivialPursuit said:

Eat ass, not each other.

Seahorsie said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

But he wasn't that's the thing. He's even said so himself (his song "Don't Play Me" for exemple).

He just wanted to keep people guessing. Was part of the mystery......

Yep! After he had such stage fright on with Dick Clark on American Bandstand that he couldn't speak, he decided he had to develop a "public personna" and he kept it up. That was one of his "sleights of hand..." among others. But it sure lead to some great songs and performances before the religious kick set in.

IanRG said:

LoveGalore said:

IanRG said:

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No you have not, not once, not ever - except for your gay checklist, which virtually every gay man in Minneapolis in 1980 would fail, but straight glam rockers etc. from Prince's formative years would pass.

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You've done me so here is my also completely made up assumption on your underwear. Multicoloured and you can see your ass through them in places - but only because long, long ago they would have been called tidy whities.

I'm kinda liking that you're thinking about how my butt looks in some classic briefs. Now drizzle me with some lavender oil while I croon Noon Rendezvous. Are you not turgid?

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Yawn, just another stalking, empty and off-topic post.

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Again based on your mistaken belief that I am scared of being gay - This time to get excited by 80+ year old in stained worn out underwear (I know my age and that you want to call me "son").

IanRG said:

LoveGalore said:

IanRG said:

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Yawn, just another stalking, empty and off-topic post.

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Again based on your mistaken belief that I am scared of being gay - This time to get excited by 80+ year old in stained worn out underwear (I know my age and that you want to call me "son").

You want us to play out your daddy fantasies? I mean right here on the org? Okay.....

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Yawn, just another stalking, empty and off-topic post by a creepy old, old man desperately seeking to get others to ignore his misunderstandings and misrepresentations in his fantasty world where he hoped he had a chance with Prince and, apparently, me.

IanRG said:

Seahorsie said:

He just wanted to keep people guessing. Was part of the mystery......

Glad to see you Seahorsie!

IanRG said:

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Yawn, just another stalking, empty and off-topic post by a creepy old, old man desperately seeking to get others to ignore his misunderstandings and misrepresentations in his fantasty world where he hoped he had a chance with Prince and, apparently, me.

LoveGalore said:

IanRG said:

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Yawn, just another stalking, empty and off-topic post by a creepy old, old man desperately seeking to get others to ignore his misunderstandings and misrepresentations in his fantasty world where he hoped he had a chance with Prince and, apparently, me.

Tell me what other kinds of underwear you picture me wearing, Ian!

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Yawn.

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In reality or just in your empty fantasy world? As you have no remaining connection to the former, whatever you want to believe in latter - It has no impact on me.

IanRG said:

LoveGalore said:

IanRG said:

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Yawn.

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In reality or just in your empty fantasy world? As you have no remaining connection to the former, whatever you want to believe in latter - It has no impact on me.

Prince liked gay people. Quite dissimilar to you, who would seek to erase us from existence (but only after critiquing our underwear choices). [Edited 8/24/22 19:54pm]

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Yet another gross and highly inaccurate assumption.

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I have no problem with any gay person, just YOU - YOU do not represent all gay people and have even argued with other gay people in this very thread. I do not want to erase any person from existence, not even you.

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Once again you deliberately misrepresent the flow of this discussion - Just as with shoes, it was YOU who raised underwear first and YOU who first critiqued me based on your assumptions about you imagined I wear.

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As I said before "You need to look outside of your fantasy world and wishful thinking and get it together. Your need to hang on to a dream when you know it was never true is only doing you harm."

IanRG said:

LoveGalore said:

IanRG said:

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Yet another gross and highly inaccurate assumption.

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I have no problem with any gay person, just YOU - YOU do not represent all gay people and have even argued with other gay people in this very thread. I do not want to erase any person from existence, not even you.

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Once again you deliberately misrepresent the flow of this discussion - Just as with shoes, it was YOU who raised underwear first and YOU who first critiqued me based on your assumptions about you imagined I wear.

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As I said before "You need to look outside of your fantasy world and wishful thinking and get it together. Your need to hang on to a dream when you know it was never true is only doing you harm."

Can you read? I asked you if you ever wore lace panties for your woman based on YOUR assertion that Prince wore them and other feminine clothing and mimicked anal sex with Kirk because it was like porn for straight women. And that's just the kinda dumb shit that would indeed come out of a straight guy's out of touch mouth. Then you imagined what kind of underwear I wore, going into such detail as to talk about the color and the cut of the garment. Then you got caught up on taking mock offense to eeeeeevery little thing I say, even when it's clear I've disengaged from writing these long love letters to you when when your unconscious biases are on full display. It matters not to me that you, some random Aussie white guy feels some type of way about American cultures (btw, need I even say white considering Aussies have relegated all brown people to homelessness or red line cities outside the metro areas of Sydney and Melbourne). You are born of cream cheese and mayonnaise, Vegemite is spicy in your ivory tower down there, bud. And before you even try it, I'll remind you I lived in Sydney for a long time and know just how you clowns treat minorities. All due respect, but when it comes to American cultures (including LGBT culture), YOU haven't a peg-leg to stand on, mate. Try barking up a tree that an Aussie is more familiar with - like fracking or selling your souls to China. Meanwhile, I'll be over here unmoved, unbothered, and unparched in my understanding of what my country of origin's cultures are comprised of. As we all know, Australia doesn't even have its own culture. What the absolute hell would you know about gay culture? [Edited 8/24/22 23:44pm]

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There is no question that I can read.

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For example I can read that you mention Prince wearing lace bikinis/panties in Post #13 and again in Post #55 and again Post # 73 - This was the post where you asked personal questions about my sex life that I constantly refused to discuss with a creep like you.

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IF YOU could read then you would see that I NEVER asserted Prince wore lace panties ever. Not once. You have been caught out in yet another lie.

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Lie number 2 is was YOU, NOT ME who raised "Prince mimicked being fucked in the ass by another man during a dance routine in the 90s on a major tour while singing a song about fucking a woman" in post #65. YOU raised it again in Post #73 with "But yes, of course, it was all a show to attract women because obviously heterosexual women are attracted to the sight of Prince taking Kirk's dick." I had to explain it to you in Post #75 that there was only one person who thought Prince took Kirk's dick on stage and that, yes it was a stage antic that was never meant to attract men - You know this because you know Prince was not gay and you admitted that he was singing about fucking a WOMAN. Once again your attempt to rewrite history fails by when people read whta you said in the thread and how it was BEFORE I said what falsely said you were responding to.

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I already pointed out to you that you really should have more common sense that to assume in a social media forum that you can make shit up and misrepresent the discussion on the assumption that no one will read what you said before. You get caught out each time you try to do it.

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Further misrepresentation - I only referred to your being an 80+ year old in stained and worn out former tidy whities AFTER you made up shit about what you imagined I wore - If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen, get out - if you cannot take it, don't give it first.

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What unconscious biases? I am for the rights of LGBTQIA+ and Indigenous people around the world, especially in Australia. I am, however, against you, just as most people in this thread have been - regardless of sexuality.

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I have no reason to believe that you ever lived in Sydney. And on USA vs Australia - gay rights do NOT have a proud history in either place (the same as many, many other places worldwide). There are no States or Territories in Australia where being gay is still outlawed but there are 17 States in the USA where this is still the position. In 1980 the rights of LGBTQIA+ people were MUCH less than today in both places.

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You also have jumped to more false assumptions: I cook Burmese, Malaysian, Thai, Japanese and Korean. No one who actually lived in Australia considers Vegemite "spicy" food, it is fed to children as just something tasty on toast or sandwiches.

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All your bullshit, lies, misrepresentations and misdirections are simply to cover that you have NEVER been able to show that what Prince wore in the late 70 and early 80s was more like what Gay men in Minneapolis wore at the time than what Glam rockers, Funkadelic/Parliament and people into psychedelia and the androgynous fashions around during Prince's formative years. The reason you have not been able to show it is because you know it is not true - most Gay men in Minneapolis in 1980 did NOT wear what Prince was wearing no matter how much you wish and pretend they did.

LoveGalore said:

I'm not reading all that, but I'm happy for you. Or sorry that happened.

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Poor old man pining over a fantasy he knows was always wrong.

LoveGalore said:

Vannormal said:

There we go again. What is 'Gay Culture?'

Again, explain me. I'm gay.

Although nevermind.

I asked this question pages ago in this thread.

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Brother, spend less time in the ether and more time reading books on what gay culture and gay history is. It'll serve to eradicate any latent internalized homophobia you might have on the topic and these concepts won't be that hard to pick up. Just like black culture exists - would you deny that? Do you think black people are a monolith or are they somehow able to formulate a culture? So too are LGBT people. There's been countless books and studies on the topic and you're here asking me to defend it? "Are u willing to do the work?"

I'm well aware 'brother' and I think I read more than most here altogether, don't worry.

It's my job.

What you say (bold) is correct (just keep it simple).

Believe me, i know every gay culture from start to finish.

Why? Cause been there done that, and came to the conclusion (at my age) it's not me.

I don't deny any culture, group or any deviant self-respecting minority/majority whatsoever - addressed to those who like to see themselves categorized.

My point was (previous post), I prefer to treat 'everyone' as a person first.

No matter what colour or whatever or whomever anyoneone likes to stick their dick or tongue in.

People are people first and foremost, always, everywhere - individuals, individualy.

And if you like to talk within context about any group, that's ok, as long as you understand the human side of it all (and as long as you can avoid the unneeded stigmatizing of any group through generization. But I'm sure you agree with me on that).

Thats my way of approaching the world and people.

Gay culture excist for those who want that or need that. Not me.

I really can't see the benefit in that.

I'm a human who happenes to be gay, but that is NOT IMPORTANT AT ALL!

To me, it doesn't add any value (or less value) to what or who I/you am/are.

All in my humble opinion of course.