Romeoblu said:

CAL3 said:

So this was sourced not from masters but a glitch-laden CD-R? . Damn, and I was really looking forward to this release. . Preorders cancelled immediately after reading the recent posts in this thread. . So it’s pretty much official I guess: the Estate simply does not have the capabilities to do anything correctly with the posthumous releases. . I shouldn’t be surprised. Oh well, if Prince didn’t want this released I feel it’s best to not listen to it or supports its release. That’s been my stance with the shit-fidelity vault material and now this album is following suit with shit-fidelity as well. . Personally I’m choosing to avoid any and all forthcoming releases - not only because no one knows if or when Prince would’ve released it, but also because apparently there is no way for the Estate to access master recordings in order to do a properly mastered release of any vault material.

Apparently a couple of people who have received the album early are reporting the clicks are not on their copies. Hopefully this is true and the leaked files were the same sent out for review purposes and use in the podcast [Edited 7/24/21 23:41pm] [Edited 7/25/21 0:36am]

THIS! Is what I was thinking all the time: who says the leak is from the finished album and not the cdr's Prince quickly put together to listen in his car to see if the song sequence worked ?

I feel there aren't any song transitions/crossfades/whatever you call it.

Here's hoping.

I had low expectations for this album but I actually like it a lot. As some people have said, there's not one song I don't like.

Yeah, let's not jump the gun and have a repeat of guttedgate. Let's wait and see how the actual product is.

Romeoblu said:

Was One Day We Will All B Free totally unknown of until the tracklist came out?

Yep. Actually the last 3 tracks were not part of the tracks slated for W2A as mentioned on Pricevault before the final tracklist came out, although the existence of 1010 (handwritten lyrics) and Yes (PP Vault photo of the master) were known.

[Edited 7/26/21 9:49am]

I unfortunately think the clicks will be present on the release as Morris has recently stated that he was given a CD to work with (not the multi track master tape) So I would presume the "Masters" that were photographed in the vault would be the original files without Morris's production added, And the CD was the only way to get those tracks with the additional production (Hope I am wrong though)

Marco81 said:

JAYJOE said:

Romeoblu said:

JAYJOE said:

I unfortunately think the clicks will be present on the release as Morris has recently stated that he was given a CD to work with (not the multi track master tape) So I would presume the "Masters" that were photographed in the vault would be the original files without Morris's production added, And the CD was the only way to get those tracks with the additional production (Hope I am wrong though)

I think Morris said he didn't work on Stand Up Be Strong so they could use the Pausley Park master tape

Very true!

Romeoblu said:

highcalonic said:

For the French readers, here's a new Morris Hayes interview about W2A :

www.funku.fr/2021/morris-...important/

One answer is interesting, about 1010 (Rin Tin Tin) he says :

This song as « 1000 Light Years From here », « Yes » and « One Day We’ll All Be Free » come from the estate and were not included on the CD that Prince gave me back then.

[Edited 7/26/21 2:36am]

Hmmmm, why would the estate offer to use the HNR2 version if they used a CD that Prince himself put together. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

"Oh, Man... This version is much better. Estate had offered to reuse this version, but I explained to them that the one I had was much higher and they ended up including it in this album."

Also this is interesting. Morris mentions that Prince did - and vaulted - an entire album with Maceo Parker.

few note the backwards part on Welcome 2 America: Says something like "Clear the channel of ??? clear the channel of facts, clear the channel of sin, clear the channel..." (anyone else?)

And the song "yes" had similar synth sound as "Beginning Endlessly" and parts of the guitar reminds me of "Peach"

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Strive said:

Sounds like this release is one I want to "try before I buy."

Genesia said:

Marco81 said:

Stellar review from the AV CLub

https://www.avclub.com/pr...1847362598

herb4 said:

Stellar review from the AV CLub

https://www.avclub.com/pr...1847362598

I have no words for how ridiculous this review is, basically says everything from 1996 until 2010 was trash, and apparently this is fantastic. We're going to see so many reviews like this unfortunately, because theyre all scared theyll be accused of being racist if they say they dont like Princes black album

[Edited 7/26/21 23:42pm]

fragglerock said:

antonb said:

Try reading the review from the Irish times! Wow the most negative review I have read of a prince album. 1 star! The good news is apparently it’s 23 tracks long! I kid you not!

Finally some honesty hehe its pretty harsh but its way closer to the truth than the other over-the-top positive drivel ive been reading

https://www.irishtimes.co...-1.4630636

[Edited 7/27/21 0:01am]

i was going to buy this album this week but am suspicious of all the OTT reviews.

and then when people are saying this isnt as good as lotus flower and AOA, which while with their highlights, were def NOT great albums overall, im dubious how good this is really going to be.

my feeling is that a political prince album that finds him writing about race in 2021 is not an album white liberal critics are going to be too tough on.

but ive a feeling this will just be another typical album of prince at this period - a few highlights, hopefully, but the rest will just be so so.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

i was going to buy this album this week but am suspicious of all the OTT reviews.

and then when people are saying this isnt as good as lotus flower and AOA, which while with their highlights, were def NOT great albums overall, im dubious how good this is really going to be.

my feeling is that a political prince album that finds him writing about race in 2021 is not an album white liberal critics are going to be too tough on.

but ive a feeling this will just be another typical album of prince at this period - a few highlights, hopefully, but the rest will just be so so.

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To be honest: why are you here if you only want to buy masterpieces by a dead artist? I will buy all the unreleased material from the vault, because I would love to hear all the songs he has created. I can understand a casual listener, but a lover of Prince's music who is in doubt whether spending $ 15 on his favorite musician's unreleased music is incomprehensible to me.

uhhh who on earth are you to judge me for deciding what i do and dont want to buy? maybe you want to read a bit closer - i didnt say i WASNT going to buy it, just that i was suspicious of the reviews. either way, if i dont want to buy a prince album, i dont have to. i am still a fan and have listened to prince more than any other artist, and read about him more than anyone else. besides, i own all his albums, even the ones from the 00s im not that keen on, so i get to voice an opinion, thanks very much, prince police. fandom is not meant to be a totalitarian state.

fragglerock said:

antonb said:

Try reading the review from the Irish times! Wow the most negative review I have read of a prince album. 1 star! The good news is apparently it’s 23 tracks long! I kid you not!

Finally some honesty hehe its pretty harsh but its way closer to the truth than the other over-the-top positive drivel ive been reading

https://www.irishtimes.co...-1.4630636

[Edited 7/27/21 0:01am]

it is actuallly quite accurate as assesment of this release. I regret having to say this.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

uhhh who on earth are you to judge me for deciding what i do and dont want to buy? maybe you want to read a bit closer - i didnt say i WASNT going to buy it, just that i was suspicious of the reviews. either way, if i dont want to buy a prince album, i dont have to. i am still a fan and have listened to prince more than any other artist, and read about him more than anyone else. besides, i own all his albums, even the ones from the 00s im not that keen on, so i get to voice an opinion, thanks very much, prince police. fandom is not meant to be a totalitarian state.

Listen to it by yourself and make your own judgement. Why care about reviews...

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

my feeling is that a political prince album that finds him writing about race in 2021 is not an album white liberal critics are going to be too tough on.

It's hardly a political album. It's pretty standard Prince song subjects. The social commentary song, the sex song, the religious song, the record companies are shit song, the fluffy pop song etc.

dualboot said: