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Reply #270 posted 07/25/21 9:46am

fredmagnus

The clicks can be heard at the beginning of Stand Up & B strong in the background of the piano intro for instance.
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Reply #271 posted 07/25/21 9:58am

Romeoblu

ThirdStrike said:

fredmagnus said:



Maybe it's been used as some kind of watermark only for the review links ?
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Ok, what is the time stamp in the song for where these clicks appear? The one I got I can’t hear any issues with the song. No clicks to be heard…


Have listened on headphones. You don't really notice them unless you are wearing headphones.
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Reply #272 posted 07/25/21 9:59am

jayceman

FYI, 60 Minutes segment on the album release, re-airs tonight on CBS:

60 Minutes CBS July 25 20...usspw.com)

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Reply #273 posted 07/25/21 10:01am

tomds

Check the record could have been a great instrumental. Nice groove and guitar work.the lyrics and way of signing don't quite match up with the tempo and groove of the song. I have this with most of the songs unfortunately.
It's not a bad album per se. But I need multiple listens.
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Reply #274 posted 07/25/21 10:54am

gsmith5678

Number23 said:

gsmith5678 said:




I’m now going to have to spend the next couple of weeks in CoolEdit adding MLK samples/dogs barking/doors slamming sound effects…
[Edited 7/25/21 5:48am]

Just a suggestion - you could add the bell from one of those ‘Test Your Strength’ mallet machine funfair things. Although that might be a bit obtuse. Maybe a sample of Arnold from Commando? Or ‘Break ya goddam spine’ from Running Man? Obviously right up front in the mix after the knees bit.
[Edited 7/25/21 5:58am]


All splendid suggestions. lol
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Reply #275 posted 07/25/21 11:19am

dodger

Number23 said:

gsmith5678 said:




I’m now going to have to spend the next couple of weeks in CoolEdit adding MLK samples/dogs barking/doors slamming sound effects…
[Edited 7/25/21 5:48am]

Just a suggestion - you could add the bell from one of those ‘Test Your Strength’ mallet machine funfair things. Although that might be a bit obtuse. Maybe a sample of Arnold from Commando? Or ‘Break ya goddam spine’ from Running Man? Obviously right up front in the mix after the knees bit.
[Edited 7/25/21 5:58am]


One more suggestion if I may; at the end of Stand Up And B Strong you could sample Rocky’s trainer Mickey saying ‘get up you son of a bitch cause Mickey loves ya’
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Reply #276 posted 07/25/21 11:44am

Number23

dodger said:

Number23 said:


Just a suggestion - you could add the bell from one of those ‘Test Your Strength’ mallet machine funfair things. Although that might be a bit obtuse. Maybe a sample of Arnold from Commando? Or ‘Break ya goddam spine’ from Running Man? Obviously right up front in the mix after the knees bit.
[Edited 7/25/21 5:58am]


One more suggestion if I may; at the end of Stand Up And B Strong you could sample Rocky’s trainer Mickey saying ‘get up you son of a bitch cause Mickey loves ya’

lol lol
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Reply #277 posted 07/25/21 12:27pm

LILpoundCAKE

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disbelief lol

If U're lookin 4 dirt look in Ur own back yard - Plant some Peace Flowers in Ur warzone so I can fire my bodyguards.
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Reply #278 posted 07/25/21 12:48pm

Phase3

Actually I jumped the gun on this album
I am on my second listen and the songs sound a lot better than they did on 1st listen.
I am using a sound bar to listen to them.My headphones broke on me a few days ago.I am sure these songs will sound even better when I get a new pair of headphones soon.Not a bad album at all.
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Reply #279 posted 07/25/21 12:49pm

Phase3

dodger said:

Number23 said:


Just a suggestion - you could add the bell from one of those ‘Test Your Strength’ mallet machine funfair things. Although that might be a bit obtuse. Maybe a sample of Arnold from Commando? Or ‘Break ya goddam spine’ from Running Man? Obviously right up front in the mix after the knees bit.
[Edited 7/25/21 5:58am]


One more suggestion if I may; at the end of Stand Up And B Strong you could sample Rocky’s trainer Mickey saying ‘get up you son of a bitch cause Mickey loves ya’

Or include the jack Nicholson sample from "Batdance" when he shouts "Get the fuck up"!!
[Edited 7/25/21 12:50pm]
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Reply #280 posted 07/25/21 2:15pm

Number23

Phase3 said:

dodger said:



One more suggestion if I may; at the end of Stand Up And B Strong you could sample Rocky’s trainer Mickey saying ‘get up you son of a bitch cause Mickey loves ya’

Or include the jack Nicholson sample from "Batdance" when he shouts "Get the fuck up"!!
[Edited 7/25/21 12:50pm]

We have a winner lol lol lol
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Reply #281 posted 07/25/21 2:47pm

PURPLEIZED3121

For once I am NOT actively seeking this out - & of course Rin Tin Tin pops up on a random streaming site FFS! A decent enough track but dare I say it needs editing. Love the live vibe from the tracks so far.

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Reply #282 posted 07/25/21 5:10pm

purplepolitici
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Worthee said:

WHY CAN’T I FIND THIS!!!????

Me neither! sad
For all time I am with you, you are with me.
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Reply #283 posted 07/25/21 5:15pm

fragglerock

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after listening to this album about ten times, in my opinion, this just isn't a good album, its obvious to me why he shelved it, forget this fantastical narrative theyre trying to shove down our throats that he knew how controversial it might be and the world wasnt ready for this album and its super-relevant in 2021 - thats all trash, it just aint that great, thats why it went in the vault

[Edited 7/25/21 17:18pm]

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Reply #284 posted 07/25/21 5:26pm

TheEnglishGent

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I've listened to this a few times now. For me it's an absolutely solid album, nothing I feel the need to skip and I'm enjoying every track.

But one thing which stands out to me after a few listens... What in the actual fuck is Rin Tin Tin about? Is Rin Tin Tin, referencing the famous dog? I think it must be, seems just as random as chucking the Lone Ranger in there but I don't see what they have to do with anything.

I've tried a lyric trasncription, with a couple of things I'm not sure about in paranthesis.

Oh, and what's the 1010 got to do with anything? Is that supposed to be binary ten as opposed to one thousand and ten? He mentions analogue and digital in the lyrics.

1010(RIN TIN TIN)


Call to all the women

Call to the men

What could be stranger than the times we’re in

Earthquake, flood, (law, Better hurricane?)
Ask the Lone Ranger
Rin Tin Tin


Flowing just like water
Through the sands of time

To the marrow of the bone

And the eye of the mind

Like drink if you’re thirsty

And sight if you’re blind

We’ve got to let the funk unwind


Sons of God and the daughters of men

Enmity Between us since the fall began

What about genetics do we not understand

Maybe we should listen to the band?

The band

Rin Tin Tin


Earthquake, flood, (law better hurry kin?, (obviously same line as above but I can't make it out)


Ask the Lone Ranger
Rin Tin Tin

Analogue people, in a digital world

Too much information

Just make your head curl

Nothing left of value

If it’s all the same kind

Time to let the funk unwind

Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin


Whether you’re a boss or a sucker just looking for stock

Still a second hand on your masters clock

It’s best to be like water, there’s no vibration in rock

Meet me in between the atoms

Beethoven and Bach

Faith in the noble man will lead you through the wilderness of lies that he taught you,
(not has) brought you to the truth about time.
There’s no such thing.

What could be stranger?
Rin Tin Tin

Ask the Lone Ranger

Rin Tin Tin

Better better better hurry cute

Rin Tin Tin

We need to let the funk unwind.

Here come the jury

Talking about good and bad

Rafter in their eyes

From the power they had

Check check the watches

Can somebody please tell me the real time?

They got to let the funk unwind

Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin

RIP sad
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Reply #285 posted 07/25/21 5:52pm

bfunk

Most of the W2A tracks can be seen on tapes in this death investigation photo from outside the vault. So, if this is CD-R sourced, that is some incomprehensible sloppy and laszy ass work by Howe and company:

https://www.prosoundnetwo...scaled.jpg

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Reply #286 posted 07/25/21 6:10pm

CAL3

I left my Amazon preorder active for the Japanese edition because I wanted the concert.
.
But it looks like that might not be deliverable. While they haven’t cancelled my order, that particular version is listed as “Currently not available” on Amazon. I don’t know if they maybe will fulfill previously-placed preorders.
I’ve been informed that my opinion is worth less than those expressed by others here.
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Reply #287 posted 07/25/21 6:27pm

SchlomoThaHomo

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bfunk said:

Most of the W2A tracks can be seen on tapes in this death investigation photo from outside the vault. So, if this is CD-R sourced, that is some incomprehensible sloppy and laszy ass work by Howe and company:

https://www.prosoundnetwo...scaled.jpg



Thanks for that. Makes me feel a little better now, but if we get the thing and it's indeed the one that sounds like it's sourced from an old CDR, it will be all the more maddening. Positive thoughts, positive thoughts.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #288 posted 07/25/21 6:39pm

SchlomoThaHomo

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TheEnglishGent said:

I've listened to this a few times now. For me it's an absolutely solid album, nothing I feel the need to skip and I'm enjoying every track.

But one thing which stands out to me after a few listens... What in the actual fuck is Rin Tin Tin about? Is Rin Tin Tin, referencing the famous dog? I think it must be, seems just as random as chucking the Lone Ranger in there but I don't see what they have to do with anything.

I've tried a lyric trasncription, with a couple of things I'm not sure about in paranthesis.

Oh, and what's the 1010 got to do with anything? Is that supposed to be binary ten as opposed to one thousand and ten? He mentions analogue and digital in the lyrics.


It seems like it's about the state of the world and getting back to basics, or life before "The Fall," as there is some biblical imagery in the lyrics. The "meet me in between the atoms" could very well be "meet me in between the Adam's." Perhaps an 'Adam' being biblical slang for an original, as Adam was the original man, and Beethoven and Bach being two originals he sees himself in the class of?

The Lone Ranger/Rin Tin Tin bit almost seems arbitrary. "Ask the Lone Ranger or Rin Tin Tin," seems like he's answering the question of the song, "What's going on with this world," with a "who in the hell knows?"

1010 I think is 'Tin Tin,' depending on how you say the word 'ten.' It's also the 10th track.

These are all just guesses.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #289 posted 07/25/21 7:38pm

LoveGalore

bfunk said:

Most of the W2A tracks can be seen on tapes in this death investigation photo from outside the vault. So, if this is CD-R sourced, that is some incomprehensible sloppy and laszy ass work by Howe and company:

https://www.prosoundnetwo...scaled.jpg



Dang, I wish they put Push & Pull on there. That song by Nikka is fucking amazing and I would love to hear his take.
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Reply #290 posted 07/25/21 8:42pm

BridgeofGraffi
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Somewhat underwhelmed with what we've gotten so far. The title track was moreso interesting than actually good and Born 2 Die, while the best song revealed so far, has an unfinished, grainy sound to it that almost completely kills the mood for me. Same for Hot Summer, meant to be a summer jam but sounds so empty that it defeats the purpose.

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Reply #291 posted 07/25/21 8:45pm

Phase3

bfunk said:

Most of the W2A tracks can be seen on tapes in this death investigation photo from outside the vault. So, if this is CD-R sourced, that is some incomprehensible sloppy and laszy ass work by Howe and company:

https://www.prosoundnetwo...scaled.jpg



There is a track called "The trouble with Emma"
There is a person on here with the username Emma that might get a kick out of that

I guess I am greedy because I want to hear every single thing in the vault.Maybe those tracks from 2004 will be apart a musicology deluxe set
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Reply #292 posted 07/25/21 11:27pm

jtfolden

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BridgeofGraffiti1220 said:

Somewhat underwhelmed with what we've gotten so far. The title track was moreso interesting than actually good and Born 2 Die, while the best song revealed so far, has an unfinished, grainy sound to it that almost completely kills the mood for me. Same for Hot Summer, meant to be a summer jam but sounds so empty that it defeats the purpose.

I don't think "Hot Summer" should be taken literally. Sure, it sounded shallow when first released but in the context of this album, I think there's another meaning there.

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Reply #293 posted 07/26/21 12:22am

antonb

Listened to it a load of times now, gonna have a break from it now until I get the cd in my hand. Still think it’s really good, and happy they have released it.
[Edited 7/26/21 0:23am]
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Reply #294 posted 07/26/21 1:14am

EmmaMcG

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Phase3 said:

bfunk said:

Most of the W2A tracks can be seen on tapes in this death investigation photo from outside the vault. So, if this is CD-R sourced, that is some incomprehensible sloppy and laszy ass work by Howe and company:

https://www.prosoundnetwo...scaled.jpg



There is a track called "The trouble with Emma"
There is a person on here with the username Emma that might get a kick out of that

I guess I am greedy because I want to hear every single thing in the vault.Maybe those tracks from 2004 will be apart a musicology deluxe set


There are so many things that song could be about razz
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Reply #295 posted 07/26/21 1:29am

hyperpessimist

I just realised...

"Same Page Different Book" sounds a LOT like Mazarati's "100 MPH".

Just sayin', no judgment here.

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Reply #296 posted 07/26/21 2:35am

highcalonic

For the French readers, here's a new Morris Hayes interview about W2A :

www.funku.fr/2021/morris-...important/

One answer is interesting, about 1010 (Rin Tin Tin) he says :

This song as « 1000 Light Years From here », « Yes » and « One Day We’ll All Be Free » come from the estate and were not included on the CD that Prince gave me back then.

[Edited 7/26/21 2:36am]

"You can skate around the issue if you like,
But who's gonna get you high in the middle of the night?"
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Reply #297 posted 07/26/21 5:07am

love2thenines2
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highcalonic said:

For the French readers, here's a new Morris Hayes interview about W2A :



www.funku.fr/2021/morris-...important/



One answer is interesting, about 1010 (Rin Tin Tin) he says :

This song as « 1000 Light Years From here », « Yes » and « One Day We’ll All Be Free » come from the estate and were not included on the CD that Prince gave me back then.

[Edited 7/26/21 2:36am]



What was the Cd and the track listing Prince gave him so ?
I 'd like to know ?
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Reply #298 posted 07/26/21 6:10am

Marco81

love2thenines2003 said:

highcalonic said:

For the French readers, here's a new Morris Hayes interview about W2A :

www.funku.fr/2021/morris-...important/

One answer is interesting, about 1010 (Rin Tin Tin) he says :

This song as « 1000 Light Years From here », « Yes » and « One Day We’ll All Be Free » come from the estate and were not included on the CD that Prince gave me back then.

[Edited 7/26/21 2:36am]

What was the Cd and the track listing Prince gave him so ? I 'd like to know ?

Apparently the other 8 tracks that ended up being part of Welcome 2 America.

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Reply #299 posted 07/26/21 6:29am

OperatingTheta
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This doesn't mean Prince didn't add those tracks later - only that Morris did not produce them.

On the recent podcast, Shelby and the girls recalled the recording of 'Yes' as part of those sessions and Shelby referenced '1010 (Rin Tin Tin) lyrically.

Clearly the songs Morris had would not constitute a finished album.
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