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Reply #240 posted 07/24/21 1:29pm

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I immediately heard the "bad rip" noises on "Stand Up and B Strong", but I think I can hear some (slightly more subtle) noises also on "1010 (Rin Tin Tin)" as well. I'll have to check again, as I was walking outside, listening to the song on in-ear headphones.

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Reply #241 posted 07/24/21 3:14pm

bluefish

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Could someone please transcribe the lyrics of "1,000 Light Years Away From Here?" They are deeply thought-provoking to me. I want to make a graphic with them.

I could take a crack at it myself, but I don't trust my ears to hear accurately enough. Thank you in advance!

‎https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvmsrcg1qD_wVuS4qnopmQg
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Reply #242 posted 07/24/21 4:12pm

dplatt

My god, what an underwhelming album. This is the first time in memory that I haven't immediately hit 'play' again after my first listen of a 'new' Prince album. I'd be hard-pressed to even recall any of the songs I just heard and really have no desire to listen again anytime soon.

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Reply #243 posted 07/24/21 4:25pm

Graycap23

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dplatt said:

My god, what an underwhelming album. This is the first time in memory that I haven't immediately hit 'play' again after my first listen of a 'new' Prince album. I'd be hard-pressed to even recall any of the songs I just heard and really have no desire to listen again anytime soon.

hummm...........listen again.

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Reply #244 posted 07/24/21 5:32pm

SquirrelMeat

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dplatt said:

My god, what an underwhelming album. This is the first time in memory that I haven't immediately hit 'play' again after my first listen of a 'new' Prince album. I'd be hard-pressed to even recall any of the songs I just heard and really have no desire to listen again anytime soon.


I'm polar opposite. From what I'd heard pre-release I thought this particular Prince 'sound' was not one of my favourites and the album would be mediocre.

But I actually love it. It's got real soul and coherence. Overall, it's not commercial, but heck, I never got into Prince follow trends.

Each to their own.

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Reply #245 posted 07/24/21 6:58pm

MIInsane

I really really really wanted to like this album.

It's just not very good. I hate to say it, but the creative well was tapped a long time ago. The only track that I actually kinda dug was the title track.

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Reply #246 posted 07/24/21 9:21pm

Phase3

I like the album but it's not "the best album of his last 2 decades"..very far from it
I can do without Shelby and the other girls singing lead vocals.
Very grateful to have this album,I do LOVE "check the record"
Now looking forward to the Blu-ray concert!
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Reply #247 posted 07/24/21 9:59pm

cooldayla

I love Prince but this a snoozefest. First listen I struggled to stay awake...and i was driving.

Prince was right, it should have stayed unreleased. But at least we are getting a blu ray concert.

Now back to the SDE series please.

[Edited 7/24/21 22:00pm]

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Reply #248 posted 07/24/21 10:52pm

CAL3

So this was sourced not from masters but a glitch-laden CD-R?
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Damn, and I was really looking forward to this release.
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Preorders cancelled immediately after reading the recent posts in this thread.
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So it’s pretty much official I guess: the Estate simply does not have the capabilities to do anything correctly with the posthumous releases.
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I shouldn’t be surprised. Oh well, if Prince didn’t want this released I feel it’s best to not listen to it or supports its release. That’s been my stance with the shit-fidelity vault material and now this album is following suit with shit-fidelity as well.
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Personally I’m choosing to avoid any and all forthcoming releases - not only because no one knows if or when Prince would’ve released it, but also because apparently there is no way for the Estate to access master recordings in order to do a properly mastered release of any vault material.
I’ve been informed that my opinion is worth less than those expressed by others here.
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Reply #249 posted 07/24/21 10:57pm

toejam

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6/10 for me. Better than HITNRUN PHASE 1 (my least favourite album from the 2000s), but I can't think of another album I'd place below it from the 2000s.

Scores out of 5 cans of beans...
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Welcome 2 America - beansbeans

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Running Game (Son Of A Slave Master) - beansbeans

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Born 2 Die - beansbeansbeans

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1000 Light Years Away - beansbeansbeansbeansbeans

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Hot Summer - beansbeans

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Stand Up And B Strong - beansbeans

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Check The Record - beansbeansbeans

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Same Page, Different Book - beansbeansbeans

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When She Comes - beansbeansbeansbeans

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1010 (Rin Tin Tin) - beansbeansbeansbeans

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Yes - beansbeansbeans

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One Day We Will All B Free - beansbeansbeans

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Reply #250 posted 07/24/21 11:40pm

Romeoblu

CAL3 said:

So this was sourced not from masters but a glitch-laden CD-R?
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Damn, and I was really looking forward to this release.
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Preorders cancelled immediately after reading the recent posts in this thread.
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So it’s pretty much official I guess: the Estate simply does not have the capabilities to do anything correctly with the posthumous releases.
.
I shouldn’t be surprised. Oh well, if Prince didn’t want this released I feel it’s best to not listen to it or supports its release. That’s been my stance with the shit-fidelity vault material and now this album is following suit with shit-fidelity as well.
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Personally I’m choosing to avoid any and all forthcoming releases - not only because no one knows if or when Prince would’ve released it, but also because apparently there is no way for the Estate to access master recordings in order to do a properly mastered release of any vault material.


Apparently a couple of people who have received the album early are reporting the clicks are not on their copies.

Hopefully this is true and the leaked files were the same sent out for review purposes and use in the podcast
[Edited 7/24/21 23:41pm]
[Edited 7/25/21 0:36am]
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Reply #251 posted 07/25/21 12:20am

teoalcantara

thisisreece said:

On first list 1010 (Rin Tin Tin) is the absolute standout. A brilliant slab of staccato funk. Pleasantly surprised that it is a lot weirder than a lot of late era Prince.

yeahthat

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Reply #252 posted 07/25/21 1:08am

bluegangsta

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So, I guess Black Muse uses both Son of a Slave Master and 1000 Light Years Away...

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #253 posted 07/25/21 1:10am

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The Official EmmaMcG Review (based on only hearing the album twice)

1. Welcome 2 America - 3/5
Decent opener. Not a song I'd listen to on its own but a good intro.

2. Running Game - 2/5
I don't like the female vocalist (Shelby?). Call me crazy but I think that in a Prince album, Prince should sing lead vocals on all songs.

3. Born 2 Die - 4/5
Very good. This is the real beginning of the album for me.

4. 1000 Light Years From Here - 4/5
Always liked the Phase 2 version. This is essentially a completely different song. And I like this one too. If not more, then just the same.

5. Hot Summer - 1/5
Nah. Boring as fuck.

6. Stand Up & B Strong - 2/5
Maybe it will grow on me in time but at the moment, after two listens, it's not my kind of thing.

7. Check The Record - 4/5
I really like it. It reminds me of Cybersingle. Only good.

8. Same Page, Different Book - 3/5
I neither like it nor dislike it. It's fine, I guess.

9. When She Comes - 5/5
One of my favourite songs from Phase 2. This version is probably even better. I wish he did more of this kind of stuff in later years. Dirty Prince is the best Prince.

10. 1010 (Rin Tin Tin) - 5/5
Love at first listen. Sounds fucking amazing on my speakers too. The kind of song that's worth investing in a decent sound system for.

11. Yes - 3/5
Yeah it's alright. Would rather less female vocalists and more Prince though.

12. One Day We Will All B Free - 4/5
In truth, I'd probably give it a 3 out of 5 at the moment. But I have a feeling that it will grow on me more and more.



Overall, a damn good album with some moments of excellence. One or two bumps along the way but much better than 20Ten. I'll never understand his thinking behind releasing 20Ten and leaving W2A in the vault. But it's a good sign that there's some great modern stuff left in the vault. Now let's hope the Estate actually release more of it instead of going back to releasing outtakes from the 80s.
[Edited 7/25/21 1:12am]
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Reply #254 posted 07/25/21 1:47am

Worthee

WHY CAN’T I FIND THIS!!!????
RIPNCE
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Reply #255 posted 07/25/21 1:49am

gsmith5678

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[?], Benjamin Banneker
Was never born a slave

[?] is "Keepin' it Franklin", I think.

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Reply #256 posted 07/25/21 2:18am

dodger

My expectations were not high but I’m loving it. A lot of his later albums felt like he was either trying to be commercial or playing safe or it was just a collection of vault tracks thrown together.
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W2A feels different. A bit like TRC without the JW stuff. It’s a semi concept album, sounds nice and organic and he has something to say.

Like most I’d prefer P on all vocals but I think the shared vocals work on the whole, especially on Stand Up And B Strong. That’s a real highlight for me
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I’ve never been a fan of Shelby but credit where it’s due I think she’s sounds great on Running Game (Son Of A Slave Master)
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Reply #257 posted 07/25/21 2:24am

Number23

dodger said:

My expectations were not high but I’m loving it. A lot of his later albums felt like he was either trying to be commercial or playing safe or it was just a collection of vault tracks thrown together.
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W2A feels different. A bit like TRC without the JW stuff. It’s a semi concept album, sounds nice and organic and he has something to say.

Like most I’d prefer P on all vocals but I think the shared vocals work on the whole, especially on Stand Up And B Strong. That’s a real highlight for me
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I’ve never been a fan of Shelby but credit where it’s due I think she’s sounds great on Running Game (Son Of A Slave Master)

You don’t think the album is perhaps missing a few ‘N-P-G’ chants or some stock sound effects that literally illustrate every lyric? You know - car beeps, clocks ticking, that sort of thing?
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Reply #258 posted 07/25/21 3:17am

dodger

Number23 said:

dodger said:

My expectations were not high but I’m loving it. A lot of his later albums felt like he was either trying to be commercial or playing safe or it was just a collection of vault tracks thrown together.
.
W2A feels different. A bit like TRC without the JW stuff. It’s a semi concept album, sounds nice and organic and he has something to say.

Like most I’d prefer P on all vocals but I think the shared vocals work on the whole, especially on Stand Up And B Strong. That’s a real highlight for me
.
I’ve never been a fan of Shelby but credit where it’s due I think she’s sounds great on Running Game (Son Of A Slave Master)

You don’t think the album is perhaps missing a few ‘N-P-G’ chants or some stock sound effects that literally illustrate every lyric? You know - car beeps, clocks ticking, that sort of thing?


Yes, he missed a trick by not adding some rocket and firework sound effects at the end of 1000 Light Years From Here and record scratches on Check The Record.
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Also a slight shame no 'put your hands up' from Shelby
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Reply #259 posted 07/25/21 3:36am

Number23

dodger said:

Number23 said:


You don’t think the album is perhaps missing a few ‘N-P-G’ chants or some stock sound effects that literally illustrate every lyric? You know - car beeps, clocks ticking, that sort of thing?


Yes, he missed a trick by not adding some rocket and firework sound effects at the end of 1000 Light Years From Here and record scratches on Check The Record.
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Also a slight shame no 'put your hands up' from Shelby

falloff All no doubt deleted from the final mix by the Estate. Also missing: Vanity’s orgasmic squeals in When She Comes/pill container rattling in Stand Up and B Strong/ice cream van jingle in Hot Summer/pages turning in Same Book (or a book shutting at the end, Howe should have kept that in, it was obviously there)/dog barking in Rin Tin Tin (and gun firing when Lone Ranger is mentioned)
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Reply #260 posted 07/25/21 3:42am

Number23

Number23 said:

dodger said:



Yes, he missed a trick by not adding some rocket and firework sound effects at the end of 1000 Light Years From Here and record scratches on Check The Record.
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Also a slight shame no 'put your hands up' from Shelby

falloff All no doubt deleted from the final mix by the Estate. Also missing: Vanity’s orgasmic squeals in When She Comes/pill container rattling in Stand Up and B Strong/ice cream van jingle in Hot Summer/pages turning in Same Book (or a book shutting at the end, Howe should have kept that in, it was obviously there)/dog barking in Rin Tin Tin (and gun firing when Lone Ranger is mentioned)

Or maybe a horse neighing when Lone Ranger is mentioned so that there are two animals in the chorus.
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Reply #261 posted 07/25/21 3:53am

dodger

Number23 said:

Number23 said:


falloff All no doubt deleted from the final mix by the Estate. Also missing: Vanity’s orgasmic squeals in When She Comes/pill container rattling in Stand Up and B Strong/ice cream van jingle in Hot Summer/pages turning in Same Book (or a book shutting at the end, Howe should have kept that in, it was obviously there)/dog barking in Rin Tin Tin (and gun firing when Lone Ranger is mentioned)

Or maybe a horse neighing when Lone Ranger is mentioned so that there are two animals in the chorus.


😂
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In 94 he would’ve added a horse trotting and used his Right The Wrong voice.
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I was a sucker for those sound effects though. The loud zip in Ripopgodazippa gets me every time
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Reply #262 posted 07/25/21 4:23am

fredmagnus

Romeoblu said:

CAL3 said:

So this was sourced not from masters but a glitch-laden CD-R?
.
Damn, and I was really looking forward to this release.
.
Preorders cancelled immediately after reading the recent posts in this thread.
.
So it’s pretty much official I guess: the Estate simply does not have the capabilities to do anything correctly with the posthumous releases.
.
I shouldn’t be surprised. Oh well, if Prince didn’t want this released I feel it’s best to not listen to it or supports its release. That’s been my stance with the shit-fidelity vault material and now this album is following suit with shit-fidelity as well.
.
Personally I’m choosing to avoid any and all forthcoming releases - not only because no one knows if or when Prince would’ve released it, but also because apparently there is no way for the Estate to access master recordings in order to do a properly mastered release of any vault material.


Apparently a couple of people who have received the album early are reporting the clicks are not on their copies.

Hopefully this is true and the leaked files were the same sent out for review purposes and use in the podcast
[Edited 7/24/21 23:41pm]
[Edited 7/25/21 0:36am]


Maybe it's been used as some kind of watermark only for the review links ?
[Edited 7/25/21 4:23am]
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Reply #263 posted 07/25/21 4:30am

dualboot

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bluegangsta said:

So, I guess Black Muse uses both Son of a Slave Master and 1000 Light Years Away...

I was thinking of Black Muse song when listerning to One Day We Will All B Free.

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Reply #264 posted 07/25/21 4:35am

love2thenines2
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Very cohesive album in production and sound/lyrics, maybe one of the best for this in 2000's !

But a boring serious album like a lot of his albums in this era!
Just some cool songs but nothing oustanding....so iam not going to listen this album often !

Pleaz to the estate...serious vault albums or sessions from the 70/80's ...thanx ...this will be enough for me...at this stage I have more expectations for the D&P box set to come latter!
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Reply #265 posted 07/25/21 5:24am

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I was pleasantly surprised.

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Reply #266 posted 07/25/21 5:48am

gsmith5678

dodger said:

Number23 said:


You don’t think the album is perhaps missing a few ‘N-P-G’ chants or some stock sound effects that literally illustrate every lyric? You know - car beeps, clocks ticking, that sort of thing?


Yes, he missed a trick by not adding some rocket and firework sound effects at the end of 1000 Light Years From Here and record scratches on Check The Record.
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Also a slight shame no 'put your hands up' from Shelby



I’m now going to have to spend the next couple of weeks in CoolEdit adding MLK samples/dogs barking/doors slamming sound effects…
[Edited 7/25/21 5:48am]
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Reply #267 posted 07/25/21 5:55am

Number23

gsmith5678 said:

dodger said:



Yes, he missed a trick by not adding some rocket and firework sound effects at the end of 1000 Light Years From Here and record scratches on Check The Record.
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Also a slight shame no 'put your hands up' from Shelby



I’m now going to have to spend the next couple of weeks in CoolEdit adding MLK samples/dogs barking/doors slamming sound effects…
[Edited 7/25/21 5:48am]

Just a suggestion - you could add the bell from one of those ‘Test Your Strength’ mallet machine funfair things. Although that might be a bit obtuse. Maybe a sample of Arnold from Commando? Or ‘Break ya goddam spine’ from Running Man? Obviously right up front in the mix after the knees bit.
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Reply #268 posted 07/25/21 6:21am

SchlomoThaHomo

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bluegangsta said:

So, I guess Black Muse uses both Son of a Slave Master and 1000 Light Years Away...


I didn't catch that. I'll have to listen again.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #269 posted 07/25/21 8:53am

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fredmagnus said:

Romeoblu said:



Apparently a couple of people who have received the album early are reporting the clicks are not on their copies.

Hopefully this is true and the leaked files were the same sent out for review purposes and use in the podcast
[Edited 7/24/21 23:41pm]
[Edited 7/25/21 0:36am]


Maybe it's been used as some kind of watermark only for the review links ?
[Edited 7/25/21 4:23am]

Ok, what is the time stamp in the song for where these clicks appear? The one I got I can’t hear any issues with the song. No clicks to be heard…
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