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Reply #270 posted 04/09/21 12:41pm

Vannormal

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My excitement is gone already.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #271 posted 04/09/21 12:55pm

highcalonic

lustmealways said:

RODSERLING said:

We all know the reason... He didn't find any label to distribute that album. Hence the four years gap.

didn't think of that, but MAKES SENSE, and i feel like a dumbass. thanks RODSERLING.

I always thought that the reason is not that he didn't find any label to distribute that album but he didn't find any label to pay the amount he was demanding for it.

"You can skate around the issue if you like,
But who's gonna get you high in the middle of the night?"
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Reply #272 posted 04/09/21 1:11pm

lurker316

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So the title track has been released... versions of 1000 Light Years From Here and When She Comes were on HNR2... and Hot Summer and Same Page, Different Book were streamed...

Has anyone else heard of the other songs? Have any of them been floating around as bootlegs? I've not heard anything besides the ones I listed.



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Reply #273 posted 04/09/21 1:33pm

Phase3

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Phase3 said:


Just dawned on me that this will be the first prince concert release since 2002. I think I will go ahead and preorder


What about the ones in the SDE releases?

ALso, I'm jazzed for some new stuff but, not gonna lie, the track list for the live set doesn't really do it for me. Heard all those songs a million times.


Your right.I guess I forget about those shows because they are packaged with the cds.I am use to having my DVDs in there own case.
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Reply #274 posted 04/09/21 1:37pm

jfenster

Why no CD \ DVD. package available???
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Reply #275 posted 04/09/21 1:48pm

Marco81

jfenster said:

Why no CD \ DVD. package available???

Cause they want you to spend money and buy the useless vinyls... neutral

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Reply #276 posted 04/09/21 1:50pm

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Not going to pre-order this album based on what I've heard. Title track, Hot Summer, Same Page. Mediocre. Wait and hear mode before I order. Hey I'm excited there's new material but I don't have to buy everything. LOL.

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Reply #277 posted 04/09/21 1:59pm

PurpleColossus

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lurker316 said:


So the title track has been released... versions of 1000 Light Years From Here and When She Comes were on HNR2... and Hot Summer and Same Page, Different Book were streamed...

Has anyone else heard of the other songs? Have any of them been floating around as bootlegs? I've not heard anything besides the ones I listed.



Yep, 'Check The Record' was played at the Dakota Jazz Club in two shows (2013)...Excellent audience recordings nod

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Reply #278 posted 04/09/21 2:08pm

Milty2

Marco81 said:

jfenster said:

Why no CD \ DVD. package available???

Cause they want you to spend money and buy the useless vinyls... neutral

Lots of people buy and listen to vinyl. Vinyl has come back in a huge way on the last several years.

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Reply #279 posted 04/09/21 2:12pm

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Milty2 said:

Marco81 said:

Cause they want you to spend money and buy the useless vinyls... neutral

Lots of people buy and listen to vinyl. Vinyl has come back in a huge way on the last several years.


It has come back, but it is still a niche market that accounts for a small percentage of overall music sales.


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Reply #280 posted 04/09/21 2:17pm

jraw

jfenster said:

Why no CD \ DVD. package available???

CDJapan offers a CD-Blu-Ray combo.

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Reply #281 posted 04/09/21 2:18pm

Marco81

jraw said:

jfenster said:

Why no CD \ DVD. package available???

CDJapan offers a CD-Blu-Ray combo.

But no deluxe book/booklet...

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Reply #282 posted 04/09/21 2:18pm

Dandroppedadim
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As a Prince fan I would assume everyone will buy this (and all other previously unreleased albums), but I guess $10 is too much for some to help support the Estate (and future releases)...

I'll hazard a guess that all previously released songs from this set will be different (or at least mixed into better shape).

[Edited 4/9/21 7:19am]

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Reply #283 posted 04/09/21 2:40pm

Milty2

lurker316 said:

Milty2 said:

Lots of people buy and listen to vinyl. Vinyl has come back in a huge way on the last several years.


It has come back, but it is still a niche market that accounts for a small percentage of overall music sales.


I don't know if I agree. There were 1.8 million vinyl sales in the week before Xmas last year which was more than CD sales. Yes ok they were probably Xmas presents but if that's the case, a lot of people are buying for those who have record players. If you factor in sales of used vinyl and from specialty stores that don't get tracked by Soundscan, I'd wager that it's much more than a niche market. I buy vinyl and I'm seeing more and more instances of vinyl issuing on the first day of album release.

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Reply #284 posted 04/09/21 2:57pm

Romeoblu

homesquid said:

Not going to pre-order this album based on what I've heard. Title track, Hot Summer, Same Page. Mediocre. Wait and hear mode before I order. Hey I'm excited there's new material but I don't have to buy everything. LOL.



Hot Summer got a real bashing on here when it was released. It must be one of his most disliked songs.

I always quite enjoyed it and I think Same Page is a great track.

Again I don't think it was that warmly received on release.

It will be interesting to see the critical reaction to this album as so far everything from the Vault has received fantastic reviews overall.
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Reply #285 posted 04/09/21 3:11pm

Apollo85

How does everyone feel about the 7/30 release date? I guess I'm fine with it but wouldn't a 4th of July weekend release be even bigger and better?

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Reply #286 posted 04/09/21 3:20pm

lurker316

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Milty2 said:

lurker316 said:


It has come back, but it is still a niche market that accounts for a small percentage of overall music sales.


I don't know if I agree. There were 1.8 million vinyl sales in the week before Xmas last year which was more than CD sales. Yes ok they were probably Xmas presents but if that's the case, a lot of people are buying for those who have record players. If you factor in sales of used vinyl and from specialty stores that don't get tracked by Soundscan, I'd wager that it's much more than a niche market. I buy vinyl and I'm seeing more and more instances of vinyl issuing on the first day of album release.


Of course compared to CD sales vinyl may be doing better. CDs are dying. That's not a reasonable comparison.

You need to compare vinyal sales to digital music (sales and streaming). Vinyal is a fraction of that. Vinyl is a niche market.



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Reply #287 posted 04/09/21 3:27pm

antonb

Carnt believe its that long away, anyhow amazon uk say its unavailable! When they never had it it the first place! What are other uk fans doing to buy this?

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Reply #288 posted 04/09/21 3:29pm

MattUK

simon1969 said:

I keep refreshing Amazon.co.uk willing the pre-order to appear !

says its "currently unavailable" sad

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Reply #289 posted 04/09/21 3:31pm

Marco81

antonb said:

Carnt believe its that long away, anyhow amazon uk say its unavailable! When they never had it it the first place! What are other uk fans doing to buy this?

Waiting to see the price on Amazon UK when they sort things out. First alternative, RockItPoole (it's listed for 129 pounds there). Otherwise, no idea. Buying from outside the UK is going to be a challenge now that you have to pay import taxes + handling fees and whatnot (thanks Brexit and all you Brexiteers).

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Reply #290 posted 04/09/21 3:31pm

MattUK

antonb said:

Carnt believe its that long away, anyhow amazon uk say its unavailable! When they never had it it the first place! What are other uk fans doing to buy this?

undecided what package to go for.. i don't have a vinyl player.. but there's no other way to get the bluray and booklet confused

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Reply #291 posted 04/09/21 3:42pm

LILpoundCAKE

Romeoblu said:

homesquid said:

Not going to pre-order this album based on what I've heard. Title track, Hot Summer, Same Page. Mediocre. Wait and hear mode before I order. Hey I'm excited there's new material but I don't have to buy everything. LOL.

Hot Summer got a real bashing on here when it was released. It must be one of his most disliked songs. I always quite enjoyed it and I think Same Page is a great track. Again I don't think it was that warmly received on release. It will be interesting to see the critical reaction to this album as so far everything from the Vault has received fantastic reviews overall.


even his former associates made fun of how basic Hot Summer was. was it members from The Family or The Revolution that made the tune into a commercial for something?

everyone was shitting on it at one point.

prince took out a whole page advert in a magazine saying something like "It's Gonna B A Hot Summer"

then the song dropped and it was what it was.

i think the reaction to that song might have been a small part of why he ditched the whole album.


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Reply #292 posted 04/09/21 3:46pm

nayroo2002

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Ramzoo said:

AaronA said:

I need the CD and Bluray. Why would you not package both. I ain't buying records as well.

Reason why, I always preferred Japanese releases as it has most of the times value added. It should meet your expectations. 😄 https://www.cdjapan.co.jp...SICP-31432 [Edited 4/9/21 1:12am]

Ships to Germany for €67.43 EUR with insurance and release date arrival.

Perfect!

Thanks for the link, Ramzoo thumbs up!

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #293 posted 04/09/21 3:59pm

Milty2

lurker316 said:

Milty2 said:

I don't know if I agree. There were 1.8 million vinyl sales in the week before Xmas last year which was more than CD sales. Yes ok they were probably Xmas presents but if that's the case, a lot of people are buying for those who have record players. If you factor in sales of used vinyl and from specialty stores that don't get tracked by Soundscan, I'd wager that it's much more than a niche market. I buy vinyl and I'm seeing more and more instances of vinyl issuing on the first day of album release.


Of course compared to CD sales vinyl may be doing better. CDs are dying. That's not a reasonable comparison.

You need to compare vinyal sales to digital music (sales and streaming). Vinyal is a fraction of that. Vinyl is a niche market.



Yes of course, streaming is the predominant format but I dont believe vinyl is a niche market anymore.

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Reply #294 posted 04/09/21 4:04pm

JAYJOE

MattUK said:

antonb said:

Carnt believe its that long away, anyhow amazon uk say its unavailable! When they never had it it the first place! What are other uk fans doing to buy this?

undecided what package to go for.. i don't have a vinyl player.. but there's no other way to get the bluray and booklet confused

No vinyl player either but you can get it from Japan With CD/Bluray I cannot confirm if it comes with the booklet or not but I would presume it will albeit a smaller one.

Boxset for me though as it's sounds like a neat collectors item for probably not too much more than the japan option plus shipping and import fees.

However I wish they had done 2 versions of the deluxe with all the added content for both CD and Vinyl fans instead of all these gold/clear options

he might have better luck if he was drummin with his Dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #295 posted 04/09/21 4:05pm

FrankieCoco1

The Japanese cd/blu-Ray package looks a good option at about £50-60 to the UK from CD Japan). The CD is “Blu-spec CD2”, which I understand plays in any CD player (and can be presumably be ripped on any PC/laptop?). I guess the Japanese blu-ray can play on any blu-Ray player too, anyone technical to confirm, please?

I have to admit I’ve still not watched the DVDs in the previous deluxe editions, much prefer just listening to music.
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Reply #296 posted 04/09/21 4:10pm

TrevorAyer

Vinyl wasn’t built to last .. tapes are where its at .. matrix approved .. with a lossless backup .. everything else is too cumbersome .. like hualing a piano to sing by the campfire when u have a guitar .. hope we get a tape for record store day .. the war would be cool .. tinted
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Reply #297 posted 04/09/21 4:20pm

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It's on Amazon UK for pre order £149.99... https://www.amazon.co.uk/...&psc=1

EDIT: It was minutes ago, I managed to pre-order but says out of stock again.

Clear vinyl edition on HMVUK:

https://store.hmv.com/sto...lear-vinyl

[Edited 4/9/21 9:27am]

3121... Don't U Wanna Come?
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Reply #298 posted 04/09/21 4:26pm

ElectricThighs

£149.99 in the UK?!!

Sod that... £87.11 from Wow HD including import tax and free shipping.

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Reply #299 posted 04/09/21 4:38pm

FrankieCoco1

ElectricThighs said:

£149.99 in the UK?!!

Sod that... £87.11 from Wow HD including import tax and free shipping.



I paid less than that for the SOTT deluxe CD version! I’m really loving the benefits Brexit is bringing us. I guess I’ll just get the regular CD.
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