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Reply #300 posted 04/09/21 9:52am

Tokyo

Can you post the link for Wow HD someone?
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Reply #301 posted 04/09/21 9:54am

ElectricThighs

Tokyo said:

Can you post the link for Wow HD someone?


https://www.wowhd.co.uk/prince-welcome-2-america-deluxe-2-lp-1-cd-1-blu-ray/194398661612

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Reply #302 posted 04/09/21 9:58am

Marco81

ElectricThighs said:

Tokyo said:

Can you post the link for Wow HD someone?


https://www.wowhd.co.uk/prince-welcome-2-america-deluxe-2-lp-1-cd-1-blu-ray/194398661612

I'm not sure I'd truste them, they don't have a great reputation. The price would be fair, however are you sure you wouldn't have to pay import taxes on that?

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Reply #303 posted 04/09/21 10:03am

FrankieCoco1

nayroo2002 said:



Ramzoo said:


AaronA said:

I need the CD and Bluray. Why would you not package both. I ain't buying records as well.



Reason why, I always preferred Japanese releases as it has most of the times value added. It should meet your expectations. 😄 https://www.cdjapan.co.jp...SICP-31432 [Edited 4/9/21 1:12am]

Ships to Germany for €67.43 EUR with insurance and release date arrival.


Perfect!


Thanks for the link, Ramzoo thumbs up!



Does anyone know if in the UK, ordering from CD Japan covers import tax, or is that an extra bonus to look forward to when it’s sent?
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Reply #304 posted 04/09/21 10:08am

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Milty2 said:




lurker316 said:




It has come back, but it is still a niche market that accounts for a small percentage of overall music sales.






I don't know if I agree. There were 1.8 million vinyl sales in the week before Xmas last year which was more than CD sales. Yes ok they were probably Xmas presents but if that's the case, a lot of people are buying for those who have record players. If you factor in sales of used vinyl and from specialty stores that don't get tracked by Soundscan, I'd wager that it's much more than a niche market. I buy vinyl and I'm seeing more and more instances of vinyl issuing on the first day of album release.




Of course compared to CD sales vinyl may be doing better. CDs are dying. That's not a reasonable comparison.

You need to compare vinyal sales to digital music (sales and streaming). Vinyal is a fraction of that. Vinyl is a niche market.




That's not a good comparison either. Comparing vinyl sales with streaming is like comparing dvd sales with watching Netflix. One is a physical product, the other isn't. There is a market for vinyl and that's all that counts.
If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger tool than I am.
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Reply #305 posted 04/09/21 10:15am

ElectricThighs

Marco81 said:

ElectricThighs said:


https://www.wowhd.co.uk/prince-welcome-2-america-deluxe-2-lp-1-cd-1-blu-ray/194398661612

I'm not sure I'd truste them, they don't have a great reputation. The price would be fair, however are you sure you wouldn't have to pay import taxes on that?

They add VAT at checkout so there shouldn't be any further tax to pay. I've ordered from them 13 times before and haven't ever been hit with addtional charges on arrival.

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Reply #306 posted 04/09/21 10:15am

Romeoblu

For now I have ordered the black vinyl. £34.99 is still very expensive. I would expect it to be priced at the most £24.99

I'm not too bothered about the dvd. I will probably order the cd at some point.
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Reply #307 posted 04/09/21 10:15am

ElectricThighs

FrankieCoco1 said:

nayroo2002 said:

Ships to Germany for €67.43 EUR with insurance and release date arrival.

Perfect!

Thanks for the link, Ramzoo thumbs up!

Does anyone know if in the UK, ordering from CD Japan covers import tax, or is that an extra bonus to look forward to when it’s sent?


I've ordered from CD Japan before and was charged 20% of the value plus an £8 handling fee, although that was years ago so I can't say whether or not VAT is paid at checkout now.

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Reply #308 posted 04/09/21 10:49am

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It's on Amazon UK for pre order £149.99... https://www.amazon.co.uk/...&psc=1

EDIT: It was minutes ago, I managed to pre-order but says out of stock again.

Clear vinyl edition on HMVUK:

https://store.hmv.com/sto...lear-vinyl

[Edited 4/9/21 9:27am]

That's a mad price and isvstill showing as unavailable so far.

I gave up on the UK site this morning so ordered from Amazon USA. $124 including shipping to the UK and VAT, that's about £90.

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Reply #309 posted 04/09/21 10:54am

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i see we've now entered the phase of the thread where we go back and forth about pricing for 30 pages

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Reply #310 posted 04/09/21 11:06am

antonb

yea it is. They should make it easier to get! I have had to order from amazon france knowing i wont get it untill a couple of weeks after it comes out. Im in the uk. Im sure i will be able to hear it though due to the wonders of the internet.

[Edited 4/9/21 11:06am]

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Reply #311 posted 04/09/21 11:09am

Dangelus

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I have pre-ordered the standard CD from Amazon UK to show my support and I'm looking forward to hearing the album in it's entirety. The CD / Blu-Ray / Vinyl package is too rich for me.

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Reply #312 posted 04/09/21 11:12am

Pellwormer

Dangelus said:

I have pre-ordered the standard CD from Amazon UK to show my support and I'm looking forward to hearing the album in it's entirety. The CD / Blu-Ray / Vinyl package is too rich for me.

I'm very sure the price will go down ..just like SOTT deluxe...from 200 € to 143 €...so...I am quite calm about that..

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Reply #313 posted 04/09/21 11:35am

Milty2

lustmealways said:

i see we've now entered the phase of the thread where we go back and forth about pricing for 30 pages

It's going to be a long weekend for some of us.

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Reply #314 posted 04/09/21 11:39am

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I'm pumped for the choice of this release, but based on the pricing and deliberate weakening of the CD package, I think this is where I step off physical purchases.

If the estate think maximising the offer for premium vinyl purchases only is the way to go, they are actually going to lose sales in the long term.

When 50% of the physical collectors (CD) don't get a premium package, only a certain percentage of them will bite the bullet and buy the full vinyl set. The rest will buy the cheap disc, switch to digital, give up collecting or illegally download. Plus, they'll miss out on the minority that would buy both the CD and vinyl packaging.

The price point is now getting out of hand, with cheap replica stage passes and tickets, which cost cents to make, thrown in to hide the fact that it's not much music for the price.

I was hoping the poor CD offer on the SOTT package was a one off, but it's clearly the strategy.

Looks like I'll have a heap of money and storage space in the coming years!

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Reply #315 posted 04/09/21 11:48am

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Reply #316 posted 04/09/21 12:02pm

homesquid

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Dandroppedadime said:

As a Prince fan I would assume everyone will buy this (and all other previously unreleased albums), but I guess $10 is too much for some to help support the Estate (and future releases)...

I'll hazard a guess that all previously released songs from this set will be different (or at least mixed into better shape).

[Edited 4/9/21 7:19am]

Help the estate? Yeah, uh, when I give to charity it's to groups that need it. Anyway, I bought 2 copies of 1999 DLX, 4 of SOTT DLX, plus Originals, Ultimate Rave (which I ended up selling because it's boring just like I remembered) and the "One Night Alone" live set but I'm not automatically buying everything with Prince's name on it. I stopped doing that in 1999 after Rave. The tracks I've heard so far don't interest me....at all. I have tons of Prince music I listen to and only so much time and space (I don't do digital). I'm not a collector or hoarder. I love everytning from 1978 to 1993 so any Deluxe sets from that era are automatic buys but after 1994-now I've made my own Prince albums by picking the songs I genuinely like and will listen to from the many albums. I do keep full albums on "Emancipation", "3121", "Planet Earth" and "HitNRun Phase 2", however.

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Reply #317 posted 04/09/21 12:04pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

I'm pumped for the choice of this release, but based on the pricing and deliberate weakening of the CD package, I think this is where I step off physical purchases.

If the estate think maximising the offer for premium vinyl purchases only is the way to go, they are actually going to lose sales in the long term.

When 50% of the physical collectors (CD) don't get a premium package, only a certain percentage of them will bite the bullet and buy the full vinyl set. The rest will buy the cheap disc, switch to digital, give up collecting or illegally download. Plus, they'll miss out on the minority that would buy both the CD and vinyl packaging.

The price point is now getting out of hand, with cheap replica stage passes and tickets, which cost cents to make, thrown in to hide the fact that it's not much music for the price.

I was hoping the poor CD offer on the SOTT package was a one off, but it's clearly the strategy.

Looks like I'll have a heap of money and storage space in the coming years!

Totally agree with this post. I would happily spend more for a fuller CD package.

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Reply #318 posted 04/09/21 12:07pm

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The vinyl business is booming, esp. since the pandemic. CDs, on the other hand,...

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #319 posted 04/09/21 12:19pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

The vinyl business is booming, esp. since the pandemic. CDs, on the other hand,...



It's booming in a niche field. It's only outperforming CD's in profit terms, not volume. Here in the UK for example, CDs outsold vinyl in volume terms by 8 to 1 in 2020.

It's the margins drving the vinyl 'revival', because the buyers are willing to pay far more for the format. That's why the Prince estate strategy is trying to push people to vinyl. It's purely for profit. But I think it will have a negative long term effect because they are failing to cater for the market of greater volume.

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Reply #320 posted 04/09/21 12:22pm

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gotta be honest, i've only ever bought the cheapo cd one-off releases (except piano and a mic because it was dumb as hell) because the sde's are, in fact, mad overpriced, but 11 something dollars for a full album of new material? i'll buy that gladly, i may even buy the vinyl if the price can get a little lower here in the next few months, i don't remember how that works though i do remember with the SDE's it always had a few bucks knocked off the preorder at certain stores if you waited long enough

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Reply #321 posted 04/09/21 12:25pm

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jfenster said:

Why no CD \ DVD. package available???

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they do in Japan

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
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Reply #322 posted 04/09/21 12:39pm

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Vannormal said:

jfenster said:

Why no CD \ DVD. package available???

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they do in Japan

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Where the video is likely region coded. Which tells us they are trying to force fans in the rest of the world to buy the most expensive set if they want all the music and video content, otherwise they could have released the CD/blu-ray package everywhere.

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Reply #323 posted 04/09/21 1:14pm

andymacfunky

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Marco81 said:

antonb said:

Carnt believe its that long away, anyhow amazon uk say its unavailable! When they never had it it the first place! What are other uk fans doing to buy this?

Waiting to see the price on Amazon UK when they sort things out. First alternative, RockItPoole (it's listed for 129 pounds there). Otherwise, no idea. Buying from outside the UK is going to be a challenge now that you have to pay import taxes + handling fees and whatnot (thanks Brexit and all you Brexiteers).

"WE HAVE ONLY BEEN ALLOCATED 25 OF THIS BY SONY UK

ONLY ONE PER ORDER PLEASE"

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Reply #324 posted 04/09/21 1:17pm

andymacfunky

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Dandroppedadime said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I'm pumped for the choice of this release, but based on the pricing and deliberate weakening of the CD package, I think this is where I step off physical purchases.

If the estate think maximising the offer for premium vinyl purchases only is the way to go, they are actually going to lose sales in the long term.

When 50% of the physical collectors (CD) don't get a premium package, only a certain percentage of them will bite the bullet and buy the full vinyl set. The rest will buy the cheap disc, switch to digital, give up collecting or illegally download. Plus, they'll miss out on the minority that would buy both the CD and vinyl packaging.

The price point is now getting out of hand, with cheap replica stage passes and tickets, which cost cents to make, thrown in to hide the fact that it's not much music for the price.

I was hoping the poor CD offer on the SOTT package was a one off, but it's clearly the strategy.

Looks like I'll have a heap of money and storage space in the coming years!

Totally agree with this post. I would happily spend more for a fuller CD package.

My choice of package is the SoTT Deluxe CD/DVD. I like the 12" size with big booklet, but to have CDs. I don't want vinyl. TBH I'd be happy for a complete digital release including all music, video, artwork and notes.

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Reply #325 posted 04/09/21 2:50pm

FrankieCoco1

SquirrelMeat said:



Vannormal said:




jfenster said:


Why no CD \ DVD. package available???

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they do in Japan


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Where the video is likely region coded. Which tells us they are trying to force fans in the rest of the world to buy the most expensive set if they want all the music and video content, otherwise they could have released the CD/blu-ray package everywhere.



The Blu-ray Disc region codes are as follows:

Region A: North America, South America, U.S. Territories, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and other areas of Southeast Asia
Region B: Europe, Africa, Middle East, Australia, and New Zealand.
Region C: Asia (except for Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and other areas of Southeast Asia)
Region FREE: This is not an official setting, but discs that have the region FREE symbol either have no flag set or have all region flags (A, B & C) set.

https://www.sony.co.uk/el...s/00029369

So the Japan CD/blu-ray should play in the USA but may not in Europe (unless it’s region free/all flags set).
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Reply #326 posted 04/09/21 3:10pm

nayroo2002

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FrankieCoco1 said:

SquirrelMeat said:


Where the video is likely region coded. Which tells us they are trying to force fans in the rest of the world to buy the most expensive set if they want all the music and video content, otherwise they could have released the CD/blu-ray package everywhere.

The Blu-ray Disc region codes are as follows: Region A: North America, South America, U.S. Territories, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and other areas of Southeast Asia Region B: Europe, Africa, Middle East, Australia, and New Zealand. Region C: Asia (except for Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and other areas of Southeast Asia) Region FREE: This is not an official setting, but discs that have the region FREE symbol either have no flag set or have all region flags (A, B & C) set. https://www.sony.co.uk/el...s/00029369 So the Japan CD/blu-ray should play in the USA but may not in Europe (unless it’s region free/all flags set). [Edited 4/9/21 14:51pm]

There's always a hack code.

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Reply #327 posted 04/09/21 4:34pm

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goosepumble said:

These are some of the cringiest pseudo-political lyrics I've ever heard. It sounds like something a 14 year old would write. eek


Yeah, it's a little rough I agree. He's not wrong neccessarily, just kind of naive in his expression.

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Reply #328 posted 04/09/21 4:42pm

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homesquid said:

Not going to pre-order this album based on what I've heard. Title track, Hot Summer, Same Page. Mediocre. Wait and hear mode before I order. Hey I'm excited there's new material but I don't have to buy everything. LOL.


I feel ya but I rolled the dice for 12 bux on Amazon anyway. The title track was interesting the first time but I know it aint gonna age well. Hot Summer I don't like. I dig Same Page but I already have it. There's a new version of When She Comes and that song's OK. I'm skipping the DVD because god damn I don't need to hear Let's Go Crazy, Delirious, Kiss, LRC and all that for the millionth time again.

EDIT:

And DjThunderfunk posted an Amazon link for the CD that was like 12 dollars on page 3 or 4 for those looking

Here:


https://www.amazon.com/gp...&psc=1

[Edited 4/9/21 16:45pm]

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Reply #329 posted 04/09/21 4:54pm

kingricefan

I pre-ordered the deluxe set yesterday from Amazon (US) for $89.94. Today the price has already gone up to $99.88. eek

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