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Reply #390 posted 04/10/21 6:45pm

LoveGalore

Marco81 said:

LoveGalore said:

I'm still really surprised they didn't choose an Oakland shows given it was his last time performing with Sheila

Sheila also played at a few shows in LA amd the last one was San Jose 21 May 2011.


Sheila didn't play in LA. They went down to LA to open for him and he let them go at the last minute which is why they had their last falling out.
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Reply #391 posted 04/10/21 7:06pm

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Actually her family was supposed to open for Prince in San Jose and got bumped for Larry Graham.

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Reply #392 posted 04/10/21 7:40pm

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homesquid said:

As streaming continues to grow and becomes the dominant way huamns listen to music these special edition box sets are going to be a specialty item. Get used to it. Physical product will increasingly become a limited collector's item. It's going to cost a good amount like any product that's rare. Keep in mind these sets will have value. Your MP3 collection has no value.



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Reply #393 posted 04/10/21 9:18pm

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nayroo2002 said:

Those are great ideas.

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Sure, from teh fan's perspective.

But maybe more risky when looking at money, etc.

The WB/Estate people are way conservative because of this factor.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #394 posted 04/10/21 9:29pm

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udo said:.

Sure, from teh fan's perspective.

But maybe more risky when looking at money, etc.

The WB/Estate people are way conservative because of this factor.

how's your shelf doing

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Reply #395 posted 04/10/21 9:49pm

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Reply #396 posted 04/11/21 12:54am

rafael

udo said:

nayroo2002 said:

...don't get me started on "shelving"!

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This japanese CD + BluRay release can fit my shelves.

I just changed my shelves for the deluxe boxes...Now i have to remove these aarghhhhhhh.....

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Reply #397 posted 04/11/21 1:27am

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rafael said:

udo said:

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This japanese CD + BluRay release can fit my shelves.

I just changed my shelves for the deluxe boxes...Now i have to remove these aarghhhhhhh.....

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You can send the deluxe releases my way.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #398 posted 04/11/21 2:01am

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EmmaMcG said:

I was going to either order the CD/Blu Ray edition from japan or ask a girl I know who lives there to send it over for me but in the end I just said "fuck it" and ordered the regular CD from Amazon UK, which because of some sort of tax fuckery comes to only 9.99 english pounds despite it being listed at 11.99 on the site. Now, I have to pay an additional 4 pound delivery fee to have it sent to Ireland but overall, that's still only 14 pound, which is reasonable for a new album. I would have gone as high as €30 for the CD/Blu Ray but that's the limit. Where they get off charging nearly 100 quid for a 12 track album and a bog standard concert on Blu Ray is beyond me.

There's no records shops in Ireland? I don't understand all this pre-ordering anyway. It's more than two months away and it's not like these items are going to be sold out on day 1. Spend your money at your local retailer, this Jeff Bezos guy doesn't need it, he's rich enough.
PS: not directed to you personally, but I really don't like how these internet giants are pushing away local shops.
[Edited 4/11/21 2:07am]
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Reply #399 posted 04/11/21 2:36am

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Would've been tempted by the 'gold' pressing but I rarely order from the US here in the UK, and the official store seems to have a spotty reputation for its handling of international orders? So bleh, I guess I'll hang back for a while and see what deals for the black/clear pressings come up closer to home.

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Reply #400 posted 04/11/21 2:49am

lottusflower

At least in amazon uk

Deluxe edition: new stock! Few copies! Hurry up!

https://amzn.to/3ti9WHq

Vinyl:

https://amzn.to/2Oz0wIz

Cd:

https://amzn.to/3d4gyDN
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Reply #401 posted 04/11/21 2:53am

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lottusflower said:

At least in amazon uk Deluxe edition: new stock! Few copies! Hurry up!

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Out of stock for a preorder?!

The product has yet to be manufactured.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #402 posted 04/11/21 4:07am

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udo said:

lottusflower said:

At least in amazon uk Deluxe edition: new stock! Few copies! Hurry up!

.

Out of stock for a preorder?!

The product has yet to be manufactured.



that's what i thought, too. a pre order running out of stock? lol gtfooh


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Reply #403 posted 04/11/21 4:55am

lagantest

I have heard a live version of 'check the record' which sounds awesome.

It can be easily found.
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Reply #404 posted 04/11/21 5:00am

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lagantest said:

I have heard a live version of 'check the record' which sounds awesome. It can be easily found.

In Prince's world.....Studio & live version are often different.....check with W²A single !

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Reply #405 posted 04/11/21 5:19am

EmmaMcG

SantanaMaitreya said:

EmmaMcG said:

I was going to either order the CD/Blu Ray edition from japan or ask a girl I know who lives there to send it over for me but in the end I just said "fuck it" and ordered the regular CD from Amazon UK, which because of some sort of tax fuckery comes to only 9.99 english pounds despite it being listed at 11.99 on the site. Now, I have to pay an additional 4 pound delivery fee to have it sent to Ireland but overall, that's still only 14 pound, which is reasonable for a new album. I would have gone as high as €30 for the CD/Blu Ray but that's the limit. Where they get off charging nearly 100 quid for a 12 track album and a bog standard concert on Blu Ray is beyond me.

There's no records shops in Ireland? I don't understand all this pre-ordering anyway. It's more than two months away and it's not like these items are going to be sold out on day 1. Spend your money at your local retailer, this Jeff Bezos guy doesn't need it, he's rich enough.
PS: not directed to you personally, but I really don't like how these internet giants are pushing away local shops.
[Edited 4/11/21 2:07am]


There's Tower Records but with the way vaccines have been managed over here so far, there's no guarantee that it will even be open by the time the album is out. If it is open, I definitely won't have been vaccinated by then because it's being prioritized by age (older people first) and I'm 30 years old so I'll be waiting for a long time. Plus, I'm pregnant so I don't want to take any unnecessary risks of travelling miles away just to buy a Prince album. I suppose I could have ordered it from Tower but in truth, I didn't even think to check because their prices are generally insane. There are no other record shops here anymore that I can think of. HMV, Virgin/Zavvi, Golden Discs, Abbey Discs etc have all closed down in recent years.

It's not that I'm in any particular hurry to get it day one. But pre-ordering it now means I can just forget about it and turn my attention to other, more pressing, things.
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Reply #406 posted 04/11/21 5:38am

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EmmaMcG said:

There's Tower Records but with the way vaccines have been managed over here so far, there's no guarantee that it will even be open by the time the album is out.

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Spring and summer will hapen in Ireland, too.

Infection numbers will go down.

Also vaccinations will progress.

Whether that is enough for the authorities to 'reopen' things in time....

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Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #407 posted 04/11/21 5:50am

antonb

Just looked on HMV and they now have it up for sale,. 149 for the deluxe 34 pound for the album on record.

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Reply #408 posted 04/11/21 5:59am

Rimshottbob

herb4 said:

LoveGalore said:

I'm still really surprised they didn't choose an Oakland shows given it was his last time performing with Sheila. I'm partial cuz I saw the shows but they also were just wonderful from start to finish. He switched it up for the 21NS shows. Oh well. This package is, like the others so far, not quite on the mark and it really only begs the question - why? I can't imagine them releasing a 2010-2011 era outtake set lol. They could've put a disc or two of vault stuff here. I wonder why they didn't take it all the way?


The weirdest thing to me is why leave an entire side of an album blank if you're bothering to press two records when we all know there's a ton of tracks they could easily fill it with. They could throw just about anything on Side 4 and cobble something together.

Lord knows there's a mountain of stuff to choose from.

Because then they would've had an album that was cobbled together, with anything 'thrown' on there, and people would be complaining about that.

It would've made the release a mess. This shouldn't be hard to figure out should it?

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Reply #409 posted 04/11/21 6:17am

leecaldon

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NO PURPLE VINYL! Unbelievable.

What a relief!

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Reply #410 posted 04/11/21 6:20am

Rimshottbob

Also, it's the first release of a truly 'unreleased' / 'new' album from Prince in the 5 years since his death, (as opposed to SDEs, anthologies, etc.), and this doesn't warrant an article on the main page of prince.org.

Wow.

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Reply #411 posted 04/11/21 6:22am

antonb

buy it from, amazon france, its 86 euros including postage. For the duluxe. It will be a few days after release though. Saying 4 august.

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Reply #412 posted 04/11/21 6:29am

leecaldon

herb4 said:

homesquid said:

Not going to pre-order this album based on what I've heard. Title track, Hot Summer, Same Page. Mediocre. Wait and hear mode before I order. Hey I'm excited there's new material but I don't have to buy everything. LOL.


I feel ya but I rolled the dice for 12 bux on Amazon anyway. The title track was interesting the first time but I know it aint gonna age well. Hot Summer I don't like. I dig Same Page but I already have it. There's a new version of When She Comes and that song's OK. I'm skipping the DVD because god damn I don't need to hear Let's Go Crazy, Delirious, Kiss, LRC and all that for the millionth time again.

EDIT:

And DjThunderfunk posted an Amazon link for the CD that was like 12 dollars on page 3 or 4 for those looking

Here:


https://www.amazon.com/gp...&psc=1

[Edited 4/9/21 16:45pm]

But the way he reworked LRC in this period was spellbinding.

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Reply #413 posted 04/11/21 6:44am

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lustmealways said:

not happening here as much but i am just so incredibly over the people that scream "they passed on 80s material for this!!!", it's so juvenile and dumb. it's been literally nothing but 80s since 2016 barring, what, one track? what a bunch of jackasses, reducing this guy's life work to a 10 year period. it's to be expected from the casuals, but it stings more when i know how awesome this release is going to be

begone, haters.

Yep, this. Personally, I'm more shocked that there's so far been so little early '90s material issued or reissued (Love Symbol and Come vinyl reissues were apparently set to happen in '16, and were quietly cancelled... although I do have original pressings of those, I'd love to have immaculate new vinyl copies of them for 'normal' new vinyl prices).

But of course, I have zero divine right to have my particular tastes catered for by the Estate by any particular time, just like the "release absolutely everything from the '80s first before even thinking about the '90s" fans don't.

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Reply #414 posted 04/11/21 7:07am

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LoveGalore said:

Marco81 said:
Sheila also played at a few shows in LA amd the last one was San Jose 21 May 2011.
Sheila didn't play in LA. They went down to LA to open for him and he let them go at the last minute which is why they had their last falling out.


Then who was that woman I saw banging the drums and singing "The Glamorous Life" at all those Forum shows?

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Reply #415 posted 04/11/21 7:24am

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lustmealways said:



OperatingThetan said:


The Estate really would benefit from consulting genuine fans who actually pay for the products, particularly the deluxe packages.

the sad truth of it is that for every 100 really knowledgeable and level-headed hardcore fans who are here for the talent and music, there's 1,000 more ditzy and casual fans that might see some stupid plastic ticket stub in this overpriced set and think "OMG I NEED IT" or just pay whatever for whatever because "i love prince so much!!!"

at the end of the day catering to those people will always leave the music in the dust, when it should be at the forefront. people like that are here for the iconography and prince branding, and it seems sometimes that the estate is far more concerned about mystique and brand building instead of properly undertaking an archival release in the way the music really deserves.

[Edited 4/10/21 17:06pm]



Agreed. They'd need to be selective based on a general observation of comments here.
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Reply #416 posted 04/11/21 8:05am

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lustmealways said:

i see we've now entered the phase of the thread where we go back and forth about pricing for 30 pages


...or as it’s otherwise known, the STUPID phase. It’s no wonder us Prince fans have a bad entitlist reputation. It’s an embarrassment.
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Reply #417 posted 04/11/21 8:18am

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I'm just curious if we're coming up on the part of the vault releases that we have yet to hear.

How many of you have already heard the tracks on this new release? Or maybe a version of the track?

Please list off the songs you've already heard and thus you won't be surprised when it is released:

For me, Hot Summer is all I've heard. How about you? hmmm

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Reply #418 posted 04/11/21 8:33am

Rimshottbob

Tracklist "Welcome 2 America"

1. Welcome 2 America - HEARD this now!
2. Running Game (Son Of A Slave Master) - NOT heard this.
3. Born 2 Die - NOT HEARD this.
4. 1,000 Light Years From Here - HEARD a version of this on HitNRun 2, evidently different.
5. Hot Summer - HEARD this.
6. Stand Up And B Strong - NOT HEARD this.
7. Check The Record - NOT HEARD this.
8. Same Page Different Book - HEARD this.
9. When She Comes - HEARD a version of this on HitNRun 2, evidently different.
10. 1010 (Rin Tin Tin) - NOT HEARD this.
11. Yes - NOT HEARD this, unless it's a version of the Family-era track from 1985. Do we know if it's the same or not?
12. One Day We Will All B Free - NOT HEARD this.

So, I've heard 5 of these songs in some version or other, possibly 6 if Yes is the old song from '85. It's probably not, though, as far as I'm aware.

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Reply #419 posted 04/11/21 8:48am

kingricefan

SantanaMaitreya said:

EmmaMcG said:
I was going to either order the CD/Blu Ray edition from japan or ask a girl I know who lives there to send it over for me but in the end I just said "fuck it" and ordered the regular CD from Amazon UK, which because of some sort of tax fuckery comes to only 9.99 english pounds despite it being listed at 11.99 on the site. Now, I have to pay an additional 4 pound delivery fee to have it sent to Ireland but overall, that's still only 14 pound, which is reasonable for a new album. I would have gone as high as €30 for the CD/Blu Ray but that's the limit. Where they get off charging nearly 100 quid for a 12 track album and a bog standard concert on Blu Ray is beyond me.
There's no records shops in Ireland? I don't understand all this pre-ordering anyway. It's more than two months away and it's not like these items are going to be sold out on day 1. Spend your money at your local retailer, this Jeff Bezos guy doesn't need it, he's rich enough. PS: not directed to you personally, but I really don't like how these internet giants are pushing away local shops. [Edited 4/11/21 2:07am]

How many people on the org missed out on owning copies of the 1999 SDE or SOTT SDE because they didn't preorder?

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