are they fixing the audio levels on Crystal Ball???? if so that would be the only reason for me to spend money on that.... otherwise, i don't care for it

AvocadosMax said:

are they fixing the audio levels on Crystal Ball???? if so that would be the only reason for me to spend money on that.... otherwise, i don't care for it

they will almost certainly be doing nothing to change anything about it. it will be a straight repress of the same masters used for the 98 release

OperatingThetan said:

camilleisfunky said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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You have made up bullshit in your head and are upset about that bullshit. I suggest you seek professional help for that.

Funny you should make this comment. This is the first time I see someone recommend OperatingThetan seek professional help when in fact several orgers made the very same recommendation to you. Obviously in vain as you keep posting shit. You're a disgrace and should feel ashamed for posting rubbish that was most likely read by Prince himself. Again, I know this is in vain.

Bart Van Hemelen has most often been spot on with his criticisms of forum members' conjectures, factual mistakes and overall cognitive errors. Bart knows Prince's work and life like few people on this forum do (or are willing to display), and it's unfortunate, so few of us seem to pay attention to facts and details. That Bart must be frustrated is entirely understandable, and it is a bit of a pity, that his style verges on the rude frequently. I, for one, am happy that he still takes the time to point out "you lot's" many shortcomings, even if I myself disagree with his style. Critique of Prince's artistic and business decisions is justified most often as well - the incongruousness of "Jam of the Year" elements within "Movie Star" is obvious, even though it's also no one but Prince's business. Prince has made an abundance of idiotic moves - but pointing them out, speaks of love and care, rather than loathing. It is also true, that looking too closely at something or someone, is not always healthy for the observer, especially when criticism is futile. But here's to free speech and offending people. Perhaps forum members might also want to consider, how frustrating it is for those, who pay more attention to things...

lustmealways said:

AvocadosMax said:

are they fixing the audio levels on Crystal Ball???? if so that would be the only reason for me to spend money on that.... otherwise, i don't care for it

they will almost certainly be doing nothing to change anything about it. it will be a straight repress of the same masters used for the 98 release

fuckn cash grab money whores

AvocadosMax said:

fuckn cash grab money whores

consider: this album has been out of print for 20+ years and, though they could go farther, a cd and vinyl reissue is more than i would expect for an obscure and long hodgepodge compilation that no one but hardcore fans care about

i always see people saying stuff like "why aren't there bonus tracks with these reissues why aren't they remastered why why why" and it's like, do you guys know what a reissue is? it's to get the album back in print when it hasn't been in print for a long time, that's it. make a few bucks sure, but this isn't the avenue for any sort of special treatment, and as far as i'm concerned, no one has a right to complain about these not having anything different because if you were paying attention you would know they were never meant to be different. save that stuff for the deluxe edition type releases.

lustmealways said:

lustmealways said:

i always see people saying stuff like "why aren't there bonus tracks with these reissues why aren't they remastered why why why" and it's like, do you guys know what a reissue is? it's to get the album back in print when it hasn't been in print for a long time, that's it. make a few bucks sure, but this isn't the avenue for any sort of special treatment

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Though for the ONA Live vinyl package, they did commission Sam Jennings for "new" artwork, since nothing of the sort existed since there wasn't a vinyl release of this at the time. He has documented that on his Facebook page, IIRC.

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LoveGalore said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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It wasn't. It was unbalanced in its selection and pointless in its execution (seguing together tracks from wildly different eras) and contained incomplete and incorrect liner notes. It was an overpriced mess that had all the faults of early bootlegs at a time when bootleggers had evolved into more carefully curated collections. And it used the title of a classic "lost" album instead of coming up with an original title.

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It was a failure in so many aspects, and basically the first example of how Prince would again and again fail to deliver over the years to come.

"Fail to deliver"? As if an artist's output is a service they're providing you?

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Ah yes, how dare ... lemme check my notes here... demand that Prince deliver on his promises WRT CB instead of him and his minions spending months insulting those who had pre-ordered this exclusive set as "impatient", just to name one of the reasons. It's not like he promised a glorious set and instead he delivered a shitty hockey puck with scratched discs and without a booklet -- oh wait, he did. It's not like they promised the set would be exclusive and then it appeared in stores BEFORE they'd even mailed out the first sets to those who had pre-ordered -- oh wait, that is what happened.

OperatingThetan said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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You have made up bullshit in your head and are upset about that bullshit. I suggest you seek professional help for that.

You've spent over twenty years posting nothing but judgement and bitterness

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Again: you made shit up in your mind and are now upset about that.

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toward an artist on a fan forum dedicated to that artist

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Ah there it is, the old "why are you even here" bullshit. If you want slavish dedication to Prince, there are other forums.

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As for the rest: I post about Prince on a Prince forum. You post about ME on a Prince forum.

Oh look, another derailed thread.

Here's a thought... How about we just discuss the MUSIC instead of getting into a pissing contest (that NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT) about who's a bigger Prince fan? Just a thought...

lustmealways said:

AvocadosMax said:

are they fixing the audio levels on Crystal Ball???? if so that would be the only reason for me to spend money on that.... otherwise, i don't care for it

they will almost certainly be doing nothing to change anything about it. it will be a straight repress of the same masters used for the 98 release

Unless you buy the vinyl... which, if the previous rereleases are anything to go by, will sound a thousand times better than the original CDs.... because it will not be deafeningly loud and brickwalled to the point of distortion.

RODSERLING said:

So, here we are on Thursday, and still nothing announced. And, as I said before, we always had leaks with preorders on websites days before the official announcement. And it was always released three months after... [Edited 3/4/21 0:21am]

so it shall be written in the history books:

lustmealways was wrong, RODSERLING is the victor

lustmealways said:

BartVanHemelen said:

these schkopi folks have another 24 hours to make good on the crystal ball this week comment or else i'm going to lose it

LoveGalore said:

LoveGalore said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Ah there it is, the old "why are you even here" bullshit. If you want slavish dedication to Prince, there are other forums.

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As for the rest: I post about Prince on a Prince forum. You post about ME on a Prince forum.

Not just he posts about you on a Prince forum. Thousands of people have, over the decades, taken issue with the way you talk to people. No idea why mods don't seem to give a fuck yet will ban other folks who mouth off to people with less frequency. Fact is, your posts aren't that interesting to justify the shitty attitude. Maybe at one time they were but, oh wait, times change. [Edited 3/4/21 15:47pm]

The Mods inconsistency has been consistent for some time.

Ahhhh Bart.

Bart has my respect even though I have to tune him out from time to time.

He's one of the most knowledgeable Prince folk around.

RODSERLING said:

Covid or not, it s crazy a simple reissue has to be delayed for like 7 months ( as it was due to be released on november of last year). I don't think other reissues from other artists had to be delayed like that due to Covid.

Calling it a 'simple reissue' isn't really being realistic though, is it? Simple enough, on the surface, but isn't Crystal Ball the first release since Prince's passing to contain music from both his Warner Years and his NPG years?

Clearly there were legal reasons why the original Crystal Ball-era tracks were unable to be featured on Sign O The Times Super Deluxe. We have no idea what legal complications and hoops there are to be jumped through and sorted out to get Crystal Ball out there.

Even if it's just red tape, formalities, etc. it would take time, perhaps more time than originally anticipated, and COVID restrictions, reduced personnel etc would only add to that.

You can call it a simple reissue, but the truth is we just don't know that.

These reissues will come out when they come out... I understand fans wanting to hear new/more Prince music, but all this constant bitching about HURRY UP, HURRY UP ESTATE, is going to make absolutely no difference.

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Rimshottbob said: