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Reply #90 posted 12/14/20 1:26pm

dodger

RJOrion said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Listen to Tony M in Call the Law from the Sacrifice of Victor concert video. He can rap.



Tony M. could ALWAYS rap well... its just that Prince's music was never conducive to hiphop... Tony M. did the best anyone could, given the beats he had to rap over... Love 2 The 9s aint hiphop... neither is Sexy MF... Prince used Tony all wrong


Yes! Saw him live last year and his flow was on point on the likes of Call The Law and Deuce And A Quarter
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Reply #91 posted 12/14/20 3:43pm

funkbabyandthe
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I'm really looking forward to this if it's true
It is his best 90s album after all
And the songs are all really strong
Plus I hope to have versions without the rapping
So it should be great
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Reply #92 posted 12/14/20 3:56pm

Dandroppedadim
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Hopefully they’ll include the slow heavy funk version of Horny Pony! I kinda like that version more than the fast one. Also Something Funky This House Comes and evening the early version of Daddy Pop with the Apache break more prominent would show he was using breakbeats pre-Drum n Bass!
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Reply #93 posted 12/14/20 4:01pm

funkbabyandthe
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He was using breakbeats post hip hop!
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Reply #94 posted 12/14/20 9:46pm

RODSERLING

So, as usual, you still want they include songs you already listened to ad nauseam instead of all brand"new" Material.
And when the set is release, as usual, you will again complain about the fact you already knew too much songs.
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Funny.
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Reply #95 posted 12/14/20 9:58pm

Pellwormer

RODSERLING said:

So, as usual, you still want they include songs you already listened to ad nauseam instead of all brand"new" Material. And when the set is release, as usual, you will again complain about the fact you already knew too much songs. . Funny.

You're right....I would like a bunch of unheard and astonishing music I never would expect...not the whole mixes or boots I already have in good condition..I want to be surprised.

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Reply #96 posted 12/14/20 11:11pm

Sydney

"Open Book" & "Get Blue" in pristine, mastered quality makes this set interesting to me but I would MUCH prefer "Parade" SDE as not only is it my favourite album/period but like another post said I want to be suprised by something new I am may hear, just like "Be's Like That Sometimes" & "Love & Sex" were for me on the SOTT SDE.

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Reply #97 posted 12/15/20 12:19am

fredmagnus

RODSERLING said:

So, as usual, you still want they include songs you already listened to ad nauseam instead of all brand"new" Material. And when the set is release, as usual, you will again complain about the fact you already knew too much songs. . Funny.

My thoughts too...

I don't get that either eek

We all should be hoping for unheard tracks since we already have the album. Plus this one doesn't need any remaster ?

[Edited 12/15/20 0:20am]

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Reply #98 posted 12/15/20 12:23am

jraw

Maybe we'll get both D&P and Parade Super Deluxe, since they both celebrate their 30th and 35th anniversary next year. And while we're at it... a Controversy Super Deluxe would fit in as well!

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Reply #99 posted 12/15/20 2:45am

DarkHorse77

We definitely need "Work That Fat" in perfect condition on the vault disc(s). I play that for people who have no idea who it is. Then when they listen back the second time they can actually hear Prince using his regular voice in the background.

"Anna Stesia come to me, talk to me, ravish me
Liberate my mind."
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Reply #100 posted 12/15/20 4:32am

RODSERLING

fredmagnus said:



RODSERLING said:


So, as usual, you still want they include songs you already listened to ad nauseam instead of all brand"new" Material. And when the set is release, as usual, you will again complain about the fact you already knew too much songs. . Funny.


My thoughts too...



I don't get that either eek



We all should be hoping for unheard tracks since we already have the album. Plus this one doesn't need any remaster ?

[Edited 12/15/20 0:20am]



Good point : I think that from that D&P era the tapes were already digitized.
It should be easier for Michael Howe than to run through the tapes of Parade, SOTT...
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Reply #101 posted 12/15/20 6:00am

rednblue

SoulAlive said:

OperatingThetan said:

it may include songs such as 'Open Book','Get Blue' and others, since I'm guessing they'll include sessions from 1990.

"Open Book" music love that song!


me too! heart

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Reply #102 posted 12/15/20 7:10am

udo

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fredmagnus said:

Plus this one doesn't need any remaster ?

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Why?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #103 posted 12/15/20 8:19am

databank

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udo said:

fredmagnus said:

Plus this one doesn't need any remaster ?

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Why?

Not sure exactly when to draw the line but here we have a record explicitely mastered for the CD technology (as opposed to a cheap CD transfer as with older records), so IDK whether there's a point in remastering albums from the 90's onwards.

I remember once seeing a 1998 remaster of a 1996 Sting album, as part of a series of Sting remasters. Was there such an improvement in technology between 1996 and 1998 that justified a remaster? I doubt it. Same with Kate Bush remastering both her 2011 albums in 2018: what could possibly be done in 2018 that couldn't in 2011?

So IDK, in 1991 CD technology was nearly a decade old. The only reasons I can think of for remastering albums from 1991 onwards would maybe be either to "de-loudness war" them in case the original intent was to be louder at the cost of quality, or to have an engineer who's better qualified than the original engineer do it (for example, Bernie Grundman may be better at the job than most people).

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Reply #104 posted 12/15/20 9:44am

JoeyCococo

I'd ageree D&P does not require a remaster as bad as many of the 80s stuff did (especially SOTT) but i'm positive more can be squeezed out of the master tapes. Those in charge of SOTT definitely knew what they were doing and I have very high hopes that they'll continue to do this work on future releases.

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Reply #105 posted 12/15/20 10:42am

Pellwormer

BTW...I would really like Parade....which would blast me....but...I made peace with these both albums I didn't like in former years...D&P and the O)+ album

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Reply #106 posted 12/15/20 11:25am

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JoeyCococo said:

I'd ageree D&P does not require a remaster as bad as many of the 80s stuff did (especially SOTT) but i'm positive more can be squeezed out of the master tapes. Those in charge of SOTT definitely knew what they were doing and I have very high hopes that they'll continue to do this work on future releases.

I am with you bro! biggrin

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Reply #107 posted 12/15/20 9:38pm

tritoncin

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databank said:

The released/broadcast material to include alone is a LOT:

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AUDIO

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Glam Slam '91 - 5:16 (WLOL radio broadcast) (possible, though could also be with GB instead since technically before D&P era)

Horny Pony - 4:20

Call The Law - 4:56

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Insatiable (Edit) - 4:01

Diamonds And Pearls (Edit) - 4:20

Money Don't Matter 2 Night (Edit) - 4:12

Willing And Able (Edit) - 4:15

Thunder (DJ Fade) - 3:20

X-cerpts From The Songs: Thunder, Daddy Pop, Strollin', Jughead, Money Don't Matter 2 Night, Push, Live 4 Love - 5:04

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Gett Off (Damn Near 10 Minutes Mix) - 9:19
Gett Off (Single Remix) - 4:01
Gett Off (Edit) - 4:27

Gett Off (Houstyle) - 8:19

Gett Off (Flutestramental) - 7:25

Gett Off (Flutestramental) - 4:12

Gett Off (Extended Remix) - 8:31

Gett Off (Thrust Mix) - 9:28

Gett Off (Urge Single Edit) - 4:23

Gett Off (Urge Dub) - 4:35

Gett Off (Rosie's Dub) - 5:30

Gett Off (Thrust Edit) - 4:48

Violet The Organ Grinder - 4:58

Gangster Glam - 6:03

Gangster Glam - 5:06

Clockin' The Jizz (Intrumental) - 4:50
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Cream (Album Version) - 4:44

Cream (N.P.G. Mix) - 5:44

Cream (N.P.G. Mix) - 6:16

Things Have Gotta Ghange - 3:57

2 The Wire (Creamy Instrumental) - 3:15

Get Some Solo - 1:31

Do Your Dance (K.C.'s Remix) - 5:59

Housebangers - 4:23

Q In Doubt - 4:00

Ethereal Mix - 4:44

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VIDEO

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The Diamonds And Pearls Video collection (with possible alternate edits of some of the single's videos, I'd have to check)

The Gett Off video single

The I-Sat TV broadcast (the Rock In Rio per4mance) (if rights allow) (possible, though could also be with GB instead since technically before D&P era)

The MTV Video Music Awards TV broadcast (if rights allow)

Victory & Valor Special Olympics TV broadcast (if rights allow)

Arsenio Hall Show TV broadcast (if rights allow)

Omnibus TV broadcast

The promos shared by Scott McCullough after P died

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Add to that the original album + outtakes and most likely a full regular D&P tour or 2 in audio and/or video...

[Edited 12/14/20 22:13pm]

The Thunder Ballet - 10:51

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Reply #108 posted 12/15/20 10:52pm

udo

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databank said:

udo said:

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Why?

Not sure exactly when to draw the line but here we have a record explicitely mastered for the CD technology (as opposed to a cheap CD transfer as with older records), so IDK whether there's a point in remastering albums from the 90's onwards.

.

Technology has progressed close to three decades since D&P, so perhaps with a good engineer we can enjoy even better mastering....

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #109 posted 12/15/20 11:21pm

TryWhistlingTh
is

Hopefully this reissue of the iconic Tony M album is bundled with a few bonus Prince tracks.

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Reply #110 posted 12/15/20 11:45pm

udo

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I do love the sarcasm.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #111 posted 12/16/20 1:12am

TheGloved1

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...Pass. I'll stream it I guess. But I'm not buying Diamonds & Pearls.

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Reply #112 posted 12/16/20 2:34am

databank

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tritoncin said:

databank said:

The released/broadcast material to include alone is a LOT:

.

AUDIO

.

Glam Slam '91 - 5:16 (WLOL radio broadcast) (possible, though could also be with GB instead since technically before D&P era)

Horny Pony - 4:20

Call The Law - 4:56

.

Insatiable (Edit) - 4:01

Diamonds And Pearls (Edit) - 4:20

Money Don't Matter 2 Night (Edit) - 4:12

Willing And Able (Edit) - 4:15

Thunder (DJ Fade) - 3:20

X-cerpts From The Songs: Thunder, Daddy Pop, Strollin', Jughead, Money Don't Matter 2 Night, Push, Live 4 Love - 5:04

.

Gett Off (Damn Near 10 Minutes Mix) - 9:19
Gett Off (Single Remix) - 4:01
Gett Off (Edit) - 4:27

Gett Off (Houstyle) - 8:19

Gett Off (Flutestramental) - 7:25

Gett Off (Flutestramental) - 4:12

Gett Off (Extended Remix) - 8:31

Gett Off (Thrust Mix) - 9:28

Gett Off (Urge Single Edit) - 4:23

Gett Off (Urge Dub) - 4:35

Gett Off (Rosie's Dub) - 5:30

Gett Off (Thrust Edit) - 4:48

Violet The Organ Grinder - 4:58

Gangster Glam - 6:03

Gangster Glam - 5:06

Clockin' The Jizz (Intrumental) - 4:50
.

Cream (Album Version) - 4:44

Cream (N.P.G. Mix) - 5:44

Cream (N.P.G. Mix) - 6:16

Things Have Gotta Ghange - 3:57

2 The Wire (Creamy Instrumental) - 3:15

Get Some Solo - 1:31

Do Your Dance (K.C.'s Remix) - 5:59

Housebangers - 4:23

Q In Doubt - 4:00

Ethereal Mix - 4:44

.

.

VIDEO

.

The Diamonds And Pearls Video collection (with possible alternate edits of some of the single's videos, I'd have to check)

The Gett Off video single

The I-Sat TV broadcast (the Rock In Rio per4mance) (if rights allow) (possible, though could also be with GB instead since technically before D&P era)

The MTV Video Music Awards TV broadcast (if rights allow)

Victory & Valor Special Olympics TV broadcast (if rights allow)

Arsenio Hall Show TV broadcast (if rights allow)

Omnibus TV broadcast

The promos shared by Scott McCullough after P died

.

Add to that the original album + outtakes and most likely a full regular D&P tour or 2 in audio and/or video...

[Edited 12/14/20 22:13pm]

The Thunder Ballet - 10:51

Good catch! I forgot it because it was only released in Feb 1994 (incidentally, the same day as TMBGITW), long after the D&P era. But since it was recorded 4 days after D&P's release and had virtually nothing to do with what was going on in early 1994, I guess it makes more sense to include it with D&P, yes.

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Reply #113 posted 12/16/20 4:54am

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Yes, please give us a SDE from the 90s next! The man had an approx 40 year-long recording career, and it’s time for the posthumous releases to explore more than small slice of that time period.
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
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Reply #114 posted 12/16/20 5:33am

udo

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controversy99 said:

Yes, please give us a SDE from the 90s next!

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Why?

Why not a strictly chronological pass over the albums?

Because of money.

They do not do it for the music.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #115 posted 12/16/20 6:16am

fishwillbite

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DarkHorse77 said:

We definitely need "Work That Fat" in perfect condition on the vault disc(s). I play that for people who have no idea who it is. Then when they listen back the second time they can actually hear Prince using his regular voice in the background.

Work that Fat? Yuck! A much more annoying and much less funky update of Movie Star/Bob George.

PIPS! Eurgh...
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Reply #116 posted 12/16/20 6:33am

vainandy

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Hell naw! I won't spend one penny on anything past the 1980s.

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #117 posted 12/16/20 7:01am

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udo said:



controversy99 said:


Yes, please give us a SDE from the 90s next!

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Why?


Why not a strictly chronological pass over the albums?


Because of money.


They do not do it for the music.


Strictly chronological would’ve been fine, but we’re well past that now. P&M83, PR Deluxe, Originals, 1999 SDE, and SotT SDE is basically jumping around the 80s. I’m ok with next albums being Lovesexy SDE, Batman SDE, Graffiti Bridge SDE, etc., but I don’t see anybody suggesting that.
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Parade is one of my favorite albums, but I’ll be very disappointed if that’s the next SDE since they basically stuck a bunch of Parade era stuff onto SotT SDE and left off a bunch of SotT related stuff.
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Reply #118 posted 12/16/20 7:57am

DarkHorse77

fishwillbite said:

DarkHorse77 said:

We definitely need "Work That Fat" in perfect condition on the vault disc(s). I play that for people who have no idea who it is. Then when they listen back the second time they can actually hear Prince using his regular voice in the background.

Work that Fat? Yuck! A much more annoying and much less funky update of Movie Star/Bob George.

I find it great fun.

"Anna Stesia come to me, talk to me, ravish me
Liberate my mind."
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Reply #119 posted 12/16/20 9:07am

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I'm starting to think that maybe the reason for a hold-up on a "Parade" deluxe is because they want to include the final Yokohama 9/9/86 Revolution concert in it, but they can't find it...I don't know. I know I've heard the entire audio if it. But does the video of the concert exist (other than the few scenes I've seen)? Given the history of this era, the final show being included would be a good "selling point", so to speak.

As far as a "Diamonds and Pearls" deluxe...it'll be interesting for sure to see what unreleased tracks are included. Most likely some stuff nobody's ever heard will be on it.
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