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Reply #120 posted 12/16/20 10:04am

Poplife88

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Not the biggest fan of this album but of course I will still buy it. It makes sense that this is the next one since it was so popular.

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Reply #121 posted 12/16/20 10:28am

FrankieCoco1

I’ve had a bit of a trawl in Prince Vault, and chronologically this list probably covers the majority of stuff that is known for the D&P era (I’ve probably missed some, as couldn’t wait to share):

D&P Vault Tracks?

I Want U Dec 89
Diamonds & Pearls Dec 89
Live 4 Love Dec 89

Playgirl Autumn 89/early 90 (Elisa Fiorillo)
Love’s No Fun Autumn 89/early 90 (Elisa Fiorillo)
Ooh This I Need Dec 89/early 90 (Elisa Fiorillo)

Move Me 6/2/90
(Thieves In The Temple 1/2/90 on Graffiti Bridge)
Soul Psychodelicide 21/2/90 (poss Oct 89) - more likely Graffiti Bridge outtake

My Pony Mar 90 George Clinton
Exploding All Over Europe 27/3/90

Walk Don’t Walk 6/90
Daddy Pop 6/90
Schoolyard 6/90
Oobey Doop 6/90
My Tender Heart 6/90 Rosie Gaines
Hold Me 6/90 Rosie Gaines/Jervetta Steele
Pain 6/90 Rosie Gaines
Streetwalker 6/90 Rosie Gaines
In The Name Of Love 6/90 Rosie Gaines
Turn Your Lights Down Low 6/90 Rosie Gaines

Number 1 9/7/90 also late 89/early 90 (Robin Power-Graffiti Bridge)

5 Women Aug/Sep 90 (Joe Cocker + on The Vault... releases 1999)
Money Don’t Matter 2 Night Aug/Sep 90
Willing And Able Aug/Sep 90
Stollin’ Aug/Sep 90
Something Funky (This House Comes) Sep 90 / 11/9/90

Jughead 11/9/90
Fancy Dancer 11/9/90
The Flow 11/9/90
Horny Pony 7 or 11/9/90

Insatiable Oct 90
Glam Slam ‘91 29/10/90?

Well Done Nov 90
And How Nov 90 (re-recording, originally 19/3/86)

Cream 3/12/90
Call The Law Dec 90

Skip 2 My U My Darling 1990/early 91 (Jervetta Steele)

Dec 90-early 91 (for Martika?):
Open Book
Love...Thy Will Be Done
Spirit
Don’t say U love me
Martika’s Kitchen
Go On (Witcha Bad Self)

Player - Some time in 1991

Thunder 24/1/91

Work That Fat 17/2/91 (uses Martika Kitchen’s music)

Carmen On Top 9/3/91 (Carmen Elektra)
Simp the Pimp 12/3/91 (George Clinton)
Waiting 4 Your Love 14/3/91

I wonder Mar/Apr 91

Mar/Apr 91 music for Ingrid Chavez tracks:
Heaven Must Be Near, Crystal City Cry, Wintersong, Whispering Dandelions, Slappy Dappy, Candle Dance, Elephant Box, Touch Of Love, Blue Boy, Jadestone, Sad Puppet Dance, Reason Enough, Standing In The Rain and Cross The Line.

Wintersong (no new music by Prince but by Michael Koppelman) and Sad Puppet Dance (no new music by Prince but by Levi)


Dance Unto The Rhythm Mar/Apr 91 (Louie Louie)
Hey, Louie, Louie Apr 91 (Louie Louie)
Tip o’ the tongue Apr 91 El DeBarge
Get Blue 8/4/91 (Louie Louie)
Stroke 10/4/91
Go Carmen Go 23/4/91
I Hear Your Voice 25/4/91 (Patti LaBelle/Rosie Gaines)
The Voice 25/4/91 25/4/91 (Rosie Gaines)

Gett Off 10/5/91
Blue Light 12/5/91 (on Symbol LP)
You’re All I Want 12/5/91 (but 1982 version on 1999 Super/Deluxe)
Alice 28/5/91

Powerline Spring 91 and early 92 (Carmen)
Good Judy Girlfriend Spring 91 and early 92, plus late 88/early 89 (Carmen)

Hey, U 23/6/91 (Margie Cox)

The Juice 10/7/91 (Carmen)

Power From Above 26/8/91 (Carmen)


Gett Off’s Cousin 27/9/91
Boom Box 28/9/91?
Miles Is Not Dead/Letter 4 Miles 30/9/91?
Do U Wanna Rock 1/10/91 - Gold Nigga?
Allegiance 1/20/91

These next ones probably start to be out of the D&P era but included as Thunder ballet:
Sweet Baby 1/10/91 but on Symbol Album?
The Thunder Ballet 5/10/91
Race 8/11/91 released on Come
Go go dancer 8/11/91
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Reply #122 posted 12/16/20 10:47pm

udo

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rebelenterprise said:

I'm starting to think that maybe the reason for a hold-up on a "Parade" deluxe is because they want to include the final Yokohama 9/9/86 Revolution concert in it, but they can't find it...I don't know.

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It is on the shelf at my home.

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Reply #123 posted 12/17/20 12:45pm

TheGloved1

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I'd rather they do Graffiti Bridge, or Batman even. Diamonds & Pearls isn't worth the price of a SD to me.
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Reply #124 posted 12/17/20 12:57pm

CaseysCousin

udo said:



rebelenterprise said:


I'm starting to think that maybe the reason for a hold-up on a "Parade" deluxe is because they want to include the final Yokohama 9/9/86 Revolution concert in it, but they can't find it...I don't know.

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It is on the shelf at my home.



Where did you put your Sign Super deluxe?
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Reply #125 posted 12/17/20 1:40pm

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I won't be getting that one... lol

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Reply #126 posted 12/17/20 1:55pm

ThePersian

Like many on here I would be disappointed if the next SDE was Diamonds & Pearls.

However that's not to say the Estate couldn't / wouldn't make a great job of it. It could be that there's lots of goodies and alternative versions in the vault and they'll make it great.

Sign of the Times was a reasonable job, as was 1999. I'd take that sort of treatment with any of the remaining albums.

If it is D&P I would very much love a proper CD (or better) quality audio of the video version of Willing & Able to be included. I'm not a bootleg follower so I have no extensive knowledge or wishlist of non-released tracks. So if there are plenty that will make a nice surprise.

Despite the disappointment at the next one being D&P I'll still 100% buy it.

At this point in time and space I'll take any 'new' Prince music.

The SDEs I am really hopeful for are Come, The Gold Experience & Around the World in A Day. Then Parade. Add to that the Prince versions of the first two Time albums, the Jill Jones tracks he did and other standout tracks that ended up being released by other artists. I'd happily take an originals 2 as well. I didn't get offended by the Originals album (audio quality aside) - I'm still not completely sure why some on her found it so horrid. I still burst into applause each time I hear Baby You're a Trip.

Roll on 2021 releases.

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Reply #127 posted 12/17/20 5:44pm

kingricefan

Yes, Yes, YES to the video (audio) version of Willing & Able!!!!! I think it's one of Prince's best vocal performances ever!

ThePersian said:

Like many on here I would be disappointed if the next SDE was Diamonds & Pearls.

However that's not to say the Estate couldn't / wouldn't make a great job of it. It could be that there's lots of goodies and alternative versions in the vault and they'll make it great.

Sign of the Times was a reasonable job, as was 1999. I'd take that sort of treatment with any of the remaining albums.

If it is D&P I would very much love a proper CD (or better) quality audio of the video version of Willing & Able to be included. I'm not a bootleg follower so I have no extensive knowledge or wishlist of non-released tracks. So if there are plenty that will make a nice surprise.

Despite the disappointment at the next one being D&P I'll still 100% buy it.

At this point in time and space I'll take any 'new' Prince music.

The SDEs I am really hopeful for are Come, The Gold Experience & Around the World in A Day. Then Parade. Add to that the Prince versions of the first two Time albums, the Jill Jones tracks he did and other standout tracks that ended up being released by other artists. I'd happily take an originals 2 as well. I didn't get offended by the Originals album (audio quality aside) - I'm still not completely sure why some on her found it so horrid. I still burst into applause each time I hear Baby You're a Trip.

Roll on 2021 releases.

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Reply #128 posted 12/17/20 9:06pm

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sorry, haters. this is going to be a fantastic package. dare i say more revalatory than parade. dare i say some of you are stuck in the 80s. delay parade for 10 more years if it means i get to 93-95 soundboard quality aftershows faster

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Reply #129 posted 12/18/20 12:09am

udo

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CaseysCousin said:

udo said:

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It is on the shelf at my home.

Where did you put your Sign Super deluxe?

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It it still lingering around near my couch.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #130 posted 12/18/20 12:34am

CaseysCousin

I think Diamonds and Pearl's is as valid as any other album to receive a super deluxe release.

My preference would be Parade first but I'm still going to be super excited for this release if it happens.

I think it's a great album and the Vault tracks could be a real revelation.
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Reply #131 posted 12/18/20 4:11am

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udo said:

CaseysCousin said:

udo said: Where did you put your Sign Super deluxe?

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It it still lingering around near my couch.


evillol

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Reply #132 posted 12/18/20 4:13am

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D&P wouldn't be my first choice, but it'd be fun. I'd love to have a Super Deluxe for the Gold/Come/Chaos years. Unfortunately, this won't happen until the Most Beautiful Girl dispute is settled.

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Reply #133 posted 12/18/20 4:22am

udo

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LILpoundCAKE said:

udo said:

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It it still lingering around near my couch.


evillol

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That is for a purpose, we still need to discuss this product.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #134 posted 12/18/20 4:23am

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lustmealways said:

sorry, haters. this is going to be a fantastic package. dare i say more revalatory than parade. dare i say some of you are stuck in the 80s. delay parade for 10 more years if it means i get to 93-95 soundboard quality aftershows faster



Yep!
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Reply #135 posted 12/18/20 6:14am

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I think this would be a mistake the more I think about it. It's not an album that has aged well other than the hits. It has some real garbage on it like "Push", "Jughead", "Walk Don't Walk" and "Live 4 Love" and none of the leaked outtakes are any good. This will not sell. I'm a huge fan but I have no interest in this. They should stick with classic Prince 1979-1989 before they get to this.

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Reply #136 posted 12/18/20 6:29am

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homesquid said:

I think this would be a mistake the more I think about it. It's not an album that has aged well other than the hits. It has some real garbage on it like "Push", "Jughead", "Walk Don't Walk" and "Live 4 Love" and none of the leaked outtakes are any good. This will not sell. I'm a huge fan but I have no interest in this. They should stick with classic Prince 1979-1989 before they get to this.


That's my fear, as well. A lacklustre response to this set could cause them to scale back future releases of the really good stuff.

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Reply #137 posted 12/18/20 7:41am

udo

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homesquid said:

I think this would be a mistake

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You are already seeing a bad thing before I do! lol

But I can agree with you...

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #138 posted 12/18/20 7:55am

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homesquid said:

I think this would be a mistake the more I think about it. It's not an album that has aged well other than the hits. It has some real garbage on it like "Push", "Jughead", "Walk Don't Walk" and "Live 4 Love" and none of the leaked outtakes are any good. This will not sell. I'm a huge fan but I have no interest in this. They should stick with classic Prince 1979-1989 before they get to this.



'Open Book', 'Get Blue' and 'Player' aren't any good? I beg to differ. There was some great material on the Diamonds and Pearls Beginnings bootleg also.
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Reply #139 posted 12/18/20 8:02am

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OperatingThetan said:

homesquid said:

I think this would be a mistake the more I think about it. It's not an album that has aged well other than the hits. It has some real garbage on it like "Push", "Jughead", "Walk Don't Walk" and "Live 4 Love" and none of the leaked outtakes are any good. This will not sell. I'm a huge fan but I have no interest in this. They should stick with classic Prince 1979-1989 before they get to this.

'Open Book', 'Get Blue' and 'Player' aren't any good? I beg to differ. There was some great material on the Diamonds and Pearls Beginnings bootleg also.

I agree but we already have these songs in decent quality. Meanwhile, we've never heard Call Of The Wild, Evolsidog, God Is Everywhere, Stella & Charles, Fun Love, etc...

So even though D&P is a great Prince era, there's no urge in releasing a SDE now as opposed to Parade IMO.

[Edited 12/18/20 8:03am]

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Reply #140 posted 12/19/20 9:59am

Wolfie87

Someone on here said it best when D&P Beginnings was leaked and they heard Insatiable Original Recording

"He could tear the fucking sea with that falsetto"

That version proved his voice maybe was at his strongest at this time and dare I say in the Pop realm at that time?
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Reply #141 posted 12/19/20 11:26am

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OperatingThetan said:

homesquid said:

I think this would be a mistake the more I think about it. It's not an album that has aged well other than the hits. It has some real garbage on it like "Push", "Jughead", "Walk Don't Walk" and "Live 4 Love" and none of the leaked outtakes are any good. This will not sell. I'm a huge fan but I have no interest in this. They should stick with classic Prince 1979-1989 before they get to this.



'Open Book', 'Get Blue' and 'Player' aren't any good? I beg to differ. There was some great material on the Diamonds and Pearls Beginnings bootleg also.

I would add Eye Wonder. Truly, Get Blue and Eye Wonder are songs that could radio play today.
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Reply #142 posted 12/19/20 12:43pm

Milty2

Wolfie87 said:

Someone on here said it best when D&P Beginnings was leaked and they heard Insatiable Original Recording "He could tear the fucking sea with that falsetto" That version proved his voice maybe was at his strongest at this time and dare I say in the Pop realm at that time?

I love that bootleg. Any bit of material that shows Pricne's creative process is alright with me.

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Reply #143 posted 12/21/20 7:07am

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essays i hope to see in the D&P release

intro from dave chappele (new regular feature)

daphne brooks on how prince summarised the political moment of 1990/91 with thunder ("the religious mood of america was changing"), live 4 love ("prince prophesised the changing tide of public opinion on the gulf war") and insatiable ("a metaphor for america's voracious appetite for consuming the lives of its poorest, with prince taking the role of the nation and his lover the willing participant-cum-victim")

rakim (of eric b and rakim) explaining how he has long been a big tony m fan

a jeweller from mpls writing on how sales rocketed after the release of d&p

essay from the designer of the ass out pants ("he was so genius... originally the pants only had holes at the bottom for his feet, but just before i had finished the stitching, he came up to me and said, 'and what about my ass?')

daphne brooks on how assless pants represented a statement on princes politics ("with those pants, prince was saying to america, 'accept my ass or own your prejudices towards the black male posterior'")

duane tudahl with a minute by minute studio sheet of how jughead came together from early drafts through to the finished version, after originally being planned as the centrepiece of the album in an 18 minute extended version with each NPG member rapping 2-3 verses each, complete with images of the original jughead tape reels, since recorded over by prince, after he angrily exclaimed that if the longer version was to be released, the world would not recognise its greatness until he was dead and gone, like the graffiti bridge film, and he would rather delete it, then suffer mockery for the rest of his life instead

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[Edited 12/21/20 12:44pm]

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Reply #144 posted 12/21/20 10:48am

Milty2

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

essays i hope to see in the D&P release

intro from dave chappele (new regular feature)

I was actually underwhelmed by Dave Chappelle's essay in the SOTT SDE.

[Edited 12/22/20 7:04am]

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Reply #145 posted 12/21/20 11:32am

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

essays i hope to see in the D&P release

intro from dave chappele (new regular feature)

daphne brooks on how prince summarised the political moment of 1990/91 with thunder ("the religious mood of america was changing"), live 4 love ("prince prophesised the changing tide of public opinion on the gulf war") and insatiable

rakim (of eric b and rakim) explaining how he has long been a big tony m fan

a jeweller from mpls writing on how sales rocketed after the release of d&p

essay from the designer of the ass out pants ("he was so genius... originally the pants only had holes at the bottom for his feet, but just before i had finished the stitching, he came up to me and said, 'and what about my ass?')

daphne brooks on how assless pants represented a statement on princes politics ("with those pants, prince was saying to america, 'accept my ass or own your prejudices towards the black male posterior'")

duane tudahl with a minute by minute studio sheet of how jughead came together from early drafts through to the finished version, after originally being planned as the centrepiece of the album in an 18 minute extended version with each NPG member rapping 2-3 verses each, complete with images of the original jughead tape reels, since recorded over by prince, after he angrily exclaimed that if the longer version was to be released, the world would not recognise its greatness until he was dead and gone, like the graffiti bridge film, and he would rather delete it, then suffer mockery for the rest of his life instead


lol

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Reply #146 posted 12/21/20 11:40am

psyche2

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homesquid said:

I think this would be a mistake the more I think about it. It's not an album that has aged well other than the hits. It has some real garbage on it like "Push", "Jughead", "Walk Don't Walk" and "Live 4 Love" and none of the leaked outtakes are any good. This will not sell. I'm a huge fan but I have no interest in this. They should stick with classic Prince 1979-1989 before they get to this.

'Open Book', 'Get Blue' and 'Player' aren't any good? I beg to differ. There was some great material on the Diamonds and Pearls Beginnings bootleg also.

'Open Book', 'Get Blue' and 'Player' are mediocre at best. 'Open Book' retains a bit of charm, but the other two are a total snoozefest. Probably the most boring, mainstream and auto-pilot mode Prince.



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Reply #147 posted 12/21/20 11:58am

funkypixie

I wouldn't take Funkenberry's word as gospel. Before SOTT was confirmed I remember him saying the estate wouldn't release it until they had the rights to the SOTT concert film which proved to be untrue.

[Edited 12/21/20 11:58am]

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Reply #148 posted 12/21/20 5:18pm

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funkypixie said:

I wouldn't take Funkenberry's word as gospel. Before SOTT was confirmed I remember him saying the estate wouldn't release it until they had the rights to the SOTT concert film which proved to be untrue.

[Edited 12/21/20 11:58am]

Howe confirmed the estate genuinely tried/really wanted SOTT film in the set, so likely the intel was correct at that moment.

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Reply #149 posted 12/22/20 2:20am

DarkHorse77

Milty2 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

essays i hope to see in the D&P release

intro from dave chappele (new regular feature)

I actually underwhelmed by Dave Chappelle's essay in the SOTT SDE.

Completely agree; I didn't find it added anything.

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