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SOT Vault, Part 1 (LP 5 & LP 6) discussion
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First impressions! Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. | |
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In 1987, at 15 years old, I bought my very first Prince bootleg. A cassette copy of "The Black Album". That opened my world to amazing unreleased tracks. I soon started finding more and more. On one of the first bootleg CD's I found there was an edited version of "All my dreams". (It just faded before the end part). I instantly fell in love with the track! I would later find a much longer version. Now here it is 33 years later and I have finally heard the song in the most amazing quality I have ever heard it! Is it wrong that I am all emotional over that?? Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for. | |
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Like Blugangsta, I was very surprised with Dorothy Parker. I find the sax very distracting, but this probably just is the result of 29 years of hearing the track without it. On the other hand, the mix is also very odd, Eric's horns are usually louder and clearer in the mix. Now it could have been an experiment IDK. I'm really curious to learn which mixes are originals and which ones are reconstructions. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Do I hear the very end of "Old Friends 4 Sale" at the very beginning of "All My Dreams"? . Or am I just used to that transition? | |
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I don't hear that. What do u mean? A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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The organ on Big Tall Wall = Shake! (itself borrowed from some late 60's or early 70's hit IIRC, I'm sure someone will know which I'm talking about). A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Mentioned that in my write up - also similar to Hot Summer. You like where the song ends up? | |
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Hard to say after one listen. I need to get used to it A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Exactly. Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. | |
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bluegangsta said:
Exactly. The worst aspect of Bolas' mixes is the way he drenches Prince's vocals in so much reverb. Really ruins some of the tracks on 'Originals' for me. | |
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. Yep, you're right. I just listened to "Old Friends 4 Sale" / "All My Dreams" from "Parade Demos" (4DaFunk). I unconsciously thought that tinging sound at the beginning of "All My Dreams" belonged to "Old Friends 4 Sale". That's weird. It doesn't even make sense. Anyway, back to SOTT SDE. [Edited 9/24/20 4:45am] | |
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I'm glad "Can I Play With U?" is finally officially available. As bluegangsta said, it's a shame Miles and Prince couldn't do something better together, but, yes, it's not bad. . I'm happy they left Miles doing that weird sound at the end of the track. This is not something that was included on bootlegs before. | |
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Do you think Michael Howe will spend his day reading these threads, shivering and sweating? A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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VaultCurator said:
No no. You can clearly hear All My Dreams is transitioning from something else. Just like you can hear Joy In Repetition at the end of The Ball. [Edited 9/24/20 5:55am] | |
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Kinda surprised how much I like Big Tall Wall (version one). Never really got into the old bootleg (version 2). 🍢 | |
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bluegangsta said:
Exactly. At the back of the book it lists the tracks that Niko Bolas has “mixed”! I’ve just left the house after ripping the CDs otherwise I’d put the details up. There may or may not be something coming! | |
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Do you think Michael Howe will spend his day reading these threads, shivering and sweating? [/quote]After we’ve all paid big bucks for this I’m sure he’ll be fine. There may or may not be something coming! | |
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Please do so whenever you have a moment (or someone else) A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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ICNTTPOYM Heard already so unfortunately lacked the wow factor it should have for me on first listen. Still an interesting version, I’ll go back to. Teacher Teacher Again as heard this as a great quality bootleg, not so fussed about this one. The version on 1999 Deluxe was more exciting to hear, perhaps because it was a fresh sound. All My Dreams Felt a jolt of euphoria, like meeting up with a long missed friend, when this came on. Having heard it first on the Charade bootleg, I agree it would feel more at home in a Parade era deluxe, but glad to have “her” back in my life. Can I Play With U? I want to listen to this on headphones. I love these bonkers creations Prince produced, which could go in sort of direction at any moment. Compared to the bootlegs, this sounds ace. Wonderful Day Find this a bit bland, so glad it’s cousin of sorts, It’s Gonna Be A Beautiful Night ended up on SOTT in 1987. Strange Relationship This is fantastic, feels like it would have been/is a great extended remix. Again looking forward to headphones listening later. Visions Ok The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker I can see why the “embellishments” were left off - sound a bit like they accompany a different tune. Will listen again but probably stick to the original release. ...TBC There may or may not be something coming! | |
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. Let me guess: "Crucial" is on your Bolas mix list? | |
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Okay, I have always had an intense and unnatural love for Coco Boys, but this version. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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It's funny in all these years I'd never noticed that there's a similar bit of melody between Wonderful Day and Movie Star A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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FrankieCoco1 said: Do you think Michael Howe will spend his day reading these threads, shivering and sweating? After we’ve all paid big bucks for this I’m sure he’ll be fine.[/quote] Me Howe should read and understand that what we needed was not a random sde selection of tracks (and the choice is questionnable), but sott remastered + Camille + DF + CB. What a waste.... Vault discs are made like collection of bootlegs. Can barely listen to most of them. Incoherent... | |
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I can't help but notice a slight difference in the way the first note hits on Visions between this version, the version on Lisa's 1991 LP and the uncirculating and supposedly genuine DF3 configuration. It's a very slight difference in the mix/edit, but noticeable. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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I just finished listening to this disc A lot of this is familiar to a certain extent but still it was a highly enjoyable experience with a number of surprises. Firstly I think The 79 demo of I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man should have been kept for another release. It just sounds out of place. Love and Sex was alot different to the Sheila version. Not sure which one I prefer, I think probably this one. It's the only track I listened to more than once and has grown on only 3 listens. Big Tall Wall is amazing. Surely that should have been released at some point back then,but I he had so much great stuff. It's so good having these tracks sounding so good. All My Dreams is in my opinion his greatest ever creation. After disk 1 already over the moon. I hope my vinyl set arrives tomorrow. I'm starving myself of this release until then. | |
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Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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this version of love and sex is insane. blows sheila's out of the water. | |
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Yet, funnily enough, the melody is typical of Sheila's melodies: it's pretty awesome how, writing it with her in mind, he made a very specific Sheila-esque melody. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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