donnyenglish said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

dodger said:

So do you think they wrote the music and lyrics..

I think it’s completely believable that they wrote the music, and that Prince turned it into a song, like with Mountains, Power Fantastic, and possibly SISIA. In that case, wouldn’t it be “co-written by Wendy & Lisa?”

This is what I'm thinking. When Susan Rogers was talking about Power Fantastic I believe she said "That was Lisa's one" from memory, despite Susan herself telling the story of how Prince turned it into Power Fantastic when he wrote the lyrics. (Lisa had named it 'Carousel' prior to the writing of the lyrics).

In Eric's interview he said W&L wrote the music but he wasn't sure about the lyrics. That might have been Prince.

Given how their collaborations have worked in the past it they probably were Prince's lyrics, but right now it's anyone's guess.

It'll be interesting to see if the hand written lyrics for this one are in the book. That would shed some light on the matter.

dodger said:

VaultCurator said:

Wendy said something in this episode that I found curious. She'd said it before in an earlier episode and I glossed over it, but she's brought it up twice now.

She'd mentioned Roadhouse Garden as an example of a project they were working on. When she mentioned it before I assumed she was just talking about the song, but she's only ever listened it in the context of album titles. Roadhouse Garden, Dream Factory, Crystal Ball. What does she mean by this?

I know Prince had an album in mind at the end of the 90s, but I assumed this would have just be a compilation of unused Revolution songs. Do you think the Roadhouse Garden album could have been a concept Prince was knocking around back in the mid 80s?

I noticed that and wondered if Roadhouse Garden was actually an album back then. We know P first mentioned it as an album in 98.

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In an earlier podcast in the series, it was mentioned that Dream Factory was not an album they were working on so much as a name for where songs went that didn't fit with whatever album project they were doing "this one's for the Dream Factory!" or words to that effect. Roadhouse Garden was never brought up as an album concept. And to me... Roadhouse Garden is about much the same concept as Paisley Park, a place where you can make music and be happy. I think whatever Roadhouse Garden was as a concept morphed into Around The World In A Day after that song was there and Paisley Park was there. This might simply be memory being what it is after almost 35 years and Roadhouse Garden being a thing for a mention in the podcasts for Around The World In A Day Super Deluxe (I can dream)

jaawwnn said:

mediumdry said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

dodger said:

So do you think they wrote the music and lyrics..

I think it’s completely believable that they wrote the music, and that Prince turned it into a song, like with Mountains, Power Fantastic, and possibly SISIA. In that case, wouldn’t it be “co-written by Wendy & Lisa?”

BINGO. Most likely P's lyrics

Might be nit-picking but these podcasts need to be checking the facts.

i'm not gonna lie i felt a sickness in my stomach for a few minutes after hearing "in a large room with no light, written by wendy and lisa"

jaawwnn said:

These are so fun to listen to. I can't remember being THIS excited for a Prince release since the old days.

Soul Psychodelicide is the one from this Podcast that made me almost drool.

The Ball is one I can't wait to hear clearly. The current one I have is awful.

mediumdry said:

dodger said:

I noticed that and wondered if Roadhouse Garden was actually an album back then. We know P first mentioned it as an album in 98.

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In an earlier podcast in the series, it was mentioned that Dream Factory was not an album they were working on so much as a name for where songs went that didn't fit with whatever album project they were doing "this one's for the Dream Factory!" or words to that effect. Roadhouse Garden was never brought up as an album concept. And to me... Roadhouse Garden is about much the same concept as Paisley Park, a place where you can make music and be happy. I think whatever Roadhouse Garden was as a concept morphed into Around The World In A Day after that song was there and Paisley Park was there. This might simply be memory being what it is after almost 35 years and Roadhouse Garden being a thing for a mention in the podcasts for Around The World In A Day Super Deluxe (I can dream)

I also suspect this to be the case. I'm guessing Prince may have been using his '84 Birthday show to test out some material for the potential Roadhouse Garden album, with songs like Our Destiny and All Day, All Night. Just speculation, but this might have been what Wendy was referring to.

tab32792 said:

RJOrion said:

Ymaginatif said:

RighteousOne said:

donnyenglish said:

Four episodes in and it is still the same page, different book. Still talking about the Revolution's influence. The podcast should be called "The Breakup and Influnece of the Revolution" because the four episodes have very little to do with the actual album that he made, in part, to distance himself from the band. You guys have fun with the series because most of you apparently love the narrative. Four episodes of whitewashing has lost my interest. Looking forward to hearing the music next week.

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...and yet you keep insisting that we hear from people like Miko, who wasn’t even around when this album was made! Lol. Get your priorities straight. Check your privilege.

Except, Miko said he was there when the album was made and that said it was all Prince. I guess we should only believe Wendy and Lisa and not other band members who contradict them.

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RighteousOne said:

Miko's words about being there:

Miko Mixamillion Weaver

not all true if you were in the room like I have been

Miko Mixamillion Weaver

This is all so funny for me! I'm there since 1983 and know much more than what I've read by people who weren't in the same room including past engineers. Which many times on many tracks I've seen only himself working the controls that the engineers set up and then asked to leave! Many have forgotten that I was actually there with him

Miko Mixamillion Weaver

it was all him! Others where just others! People crying now mega years late? Pat's on the back bullshit! I'm sad because he can't tell his side of the story but I can but don't want to call folks liars!

do you also have info on which bandmembers had beef with which other bandmembers? That may colour how they talk about eachother. it's best to have multiple sources for any remarks. In that light Miko's remarks don't have much corroboration yet.

donnyenglish said:

LoveGalore said:

RighteousOne said:

LoveGalore said:

RighteousOne said:

RighteousOne said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

LoveGalore said:

donnyenglish said:

Anybody willing to listen to multiple episodes of this podcast already knows that Prince was a musical genius and talented man, I'm not sure why some fans have such an insecure knee-jerk reaction to any praise given to his collaborators.