JorisE73 said:

udo said:

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If your mindset stays like that nothing will change.

As if they can read my mind as to what they should do.

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No that is not what I meant.

If you keep thinking like the way you expressed then you will not be an active customer that gives feedback.

That explains why stuff is suboptimal to say the least.

For SOTT SDE I really hope for a cheap edition in jewel cases.

The way they release stuff shows they do not understand SDE releases:

- All is one-off, no consistency

- No backbone on the crappy PR 'remaster'

- No backbone and thus censorship on 1999 SDE

- No idea of what is practical and thus the 'book thing' for SOTT SDE; plus a sheet for the tracks: Lack of undrstanding of what comes first.

Further complaints will follow.

udo said:

JorisE73 said:

As if they can read my mind as to what they should do.

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No that is not what I meant.

If you keep thinking like the way you expressed then you will not be an active customer that gives feedback.

That explains why stuff is suboptimal to say the least.

For SOTT SDE I really hope for a cheap edition in jewel cases.

The way they release stuff shows they do not understand SDE releases:

- All is one-off, no consistency

- No backbone on the crappy PR 'remaster'

- No backbone and thus censorship on 1999 SDE

- No idea of what is practical and thus the 'book thing' for SOTT SDE; plus a sheet for the tracks: Lack of undrstanding of what comes first.

Further complaints will follow.

But that;s the thing; they don;t care about our feedback unless it's positive.
If they cared they wouldn't have Howe lie and insult us in interviews and neglect more knowlegdeable fans.

JorisE73 said:

But that;s the thing; they don;t care about our feedback unless it's positive.
If they cared they wouldn't have Howe lie and insult us in interviews and neglect more knowlegdeable fans.

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Ifs the Howe phone numer I found on the net still valid?

Can't you email your local Warner offices?

kingricefan said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Someone on another message board said their CDs came scratched; anyone else have this problem?

A couple of my discs had very, very, very light scratches on them but nothing that interferred with playing. When I first opened the set up one of the discs had slid down behind the heavy paper cutout that was supposed to hold it and was stuck halfway behind the cd next to it. Good thing neither of them had scratched because I definately would have sent it back.

That happened with my SDE box as well. When I opened the book I found that one of the CDs had slid out of it's holder and was loose in the book, but all is well with the CDs. No damage. I imagine this can happen with movement during shipping. Happy that none of mine are damaged!

udo said:

JorisE73 said:

As if they can read my mind as to what they should do.

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No that is not what I meant.

If you keep thinking like the way you expressed then you will not be an active customer that gives feedback.

That explains why stuff is suboptimal to say the least.

For SOTT SDE I really hope for a cheap edition in jewel cases.

The way they release stuff shows they do not understand SDE releases:

- All is one-off, no consistency

- No backbone on the crappy PR 'remaster'

- No backbone and thus censorship on 1999 SDE

- No idea of what is practical and thus the 'book thing' for SOTT SDE; plus a sheet for the tracks: Lack of undrstanding of what comes first.

Further complaints will follow.

You are writing as if yours is THE definitive and ONLY opinion that matters with regard to the Estate and its releases. I am very happy with my SOTT SDE box set, and I think the group did a great job in putting it together. I have no doubt that it was a laborious task, and they made the choices they thought were best suited for delivering the music to the fans from both a cost and functional perspective.

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Instead of always being the "glass half empty" guy, how about doing a 180 on that and find some positive with regard to getting all of this great music officially out - especially to the newer fans who might be experiencing all of this for the first time??

violetcrush said:

You are writing as if yours is THE definitive and ONLY opinion that matters with regard to the Estate and its releases.

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I.e.: I am 'arrogant'?

Cant you see the facts I wrote down?

Can't you hear the PR remaster issue?

Can't you see the different ways each SDE release is done?

Can't you see the impracticalities of the SOTT book?

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I am very happy with my SOTT SDE box set, and I think the group did a great job in putting it together.

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So you did not look at practicality at all.

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I have no doubt that it was a laborious task,

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They had quite a few years to think about stuff...

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and they made the choices they thought were best suited for delivering the music to the fans from both a cost and functional perspective.

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The book is expensive and impactical as storage for these CD's.

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Instead of always being the "glass half empty" guy, how about doing a 180 on that and find some positive with regard to getting all of this great music officially out - especially to the newer fans who might be experiencing all of this for the first time??

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If you only want to see the `half full` side then you are part of my dystopia.

This does not mean I cannot see positive sides of things.

udo said:

violetcrush said:

You are writing as if yours is THE definitive and ONLY opinion that matters with regard to the Estate and its releases.

.

I.e.: I am 'arrogant'?

Cant you see the facts I wrote down?

Can't you hear the PR remaster issue?

Can't you see the different ways each SDE release is done?

Can't you see the impracticalities of the SOTT book?

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The book is expensive and impactical as storage for these CD's.

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Instead of always being the "glass half empty" guy, how about doing a 180 on that and find some positive with regard to getting all of this great music officially out - especially to the newer fans who might be experiencing all of this for the first time??

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If you only want to see the `half full` side then you are part of my dystopia.

This does not mean I cannot see positive sides of things.

AGAIN.....YOUR OPINION ONLY, And clearly NOT aligned with all or most of the others on this thread. So, maybe just keep your nit-picking glass-half-empty BS to yourself.

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The rest of us are trying to enjoy this release and promote positivity with Prince's music. As Prince sang, "have you had your + today??" You need his Positivity track on repeat

darlingnikkkki said:

Received my 3 disc deluxe edition. Love the 4-fold packaging with photos and a booklet inside. Still waiting for the peach colored vinyls (expected 10/20-11/9). Got the vinyl SDE in my Christmas wish list.

Nice!! I splurged on the SDE CD set, but would also ove the peach vinyl SDE. I don't have a record player though I really love the book. The photos, excerpts, and track info are fantastic

violetcrush said:

darlingnikkkki said:

violetcrush said:

Nice!! I splurged on the SDE CD set, but would also ove the peach vinyl SDE. I don't have a record player though I really love the book. The photos, excerpts, and track info are fantastic

Yeah I can’t wait to read the book as well. I ordered the limited edition peach vinyl as a collectible lol.

Nice!!! I really do want to get a record player. I kick myself for not grabbling the really nice one my parents had from the 70's/80's which was still in mint condition. Hindsight is often 20/20

Somehow thru all these yrs pf Prince ingestion I never listened to the Shockadelica 12" long version ("Get off my guitar"..) until just now. Insanely good, really meeting my mood right now.

Farfunknugin said:

Somehow thru all these yrs pf Prince ingestion I never listened to the Shockadelica 12" long version ("Get off my guitar"..) until just now. Insanely good, really meeting my mood right now.

...nasty bitch! Get off!

SoulAlive said:

How does the new vynil sound compared 2 the original?

mill8 said:

SoulAlive said:

Vinyl unboxing video

(170) Prince - Sign O' Th... - YouTube

But no video for the mail man (mine was a little hard breathing up the three floors . 7.2 Kilos is Not anything ).🤓

Great unboxing and review!! I heard LOTS of "wow, this is cool", and "this looks great", and "this book is really nice", and "this is not just a "cash-grab", and "they must have spent a lot of time putting this together..."

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I AGREE!!!!!!!

mill8 said:

SoulAlive said:

Vinyl unboxing video

(170) Prince - Sign O' Th... - YouTube

But no video for the mail man (mine was a little hard breathing up the three floors . 7.2 Kilos is Not anything ).🤓

I gotta say...the vinyl set looks WONDERFUL! Wow! I got the CD SDE but I am seriously considering getting the vinyl set too

terrywastecake said:

OperatingThetan said:

A truly brilliant set and dazzling display of Prince's virtuosity and genius, but it does come with several frustrating imperfections. Several very strong songs from the time period such as 'We Can Funk', 'I Can't Stop This Feeling I Got', 'Girl O' My Dreams', '101' and 'Telepathy' have been omitted, while pointless edits, remixes and multiple versions of songs are wasting space. An unnecessarily flawed and imperfect, but nevertheless essential, release. With just a little more thought and consideration though, it could've been a deserved masterpiece. * [Edited 9/27/20 17:52pm]

"101" and "telepathy" will probably go on the next "Originals". IDK about the others. You're right though.

violetcrush said:

AGAIN.....YOUR OPINION ONLY,

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If you cannot discern facts from opinion I cannot help you.

udo said:

JorisE73 said:

But that;s the thing; they don;t care about our feedback unless it's positive.
If they cared they wouldn't have Howe lie and insult us in interviews and neglect more knowlegdeable fans.

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Ifs the Howe phone numer I found on the net still valid?

Can't you email your local Warner offices?

Maybe.
For years they have neglected fan wishes and even neglected or thrown away some amazing ideas from a group of hardcore collectors. These "elites" (for lack of a better word) even sent them prototypes so to say of ultimate deluxe editions (and also to Paisley Park) that were laid aside and then they came up with these releases with a non-fan, unknowledgeble WB guy at the helm gatekeeping the stuff that should be on these releases.
Given the positive reactions to these releases I doubt the few fans who don;'t like the release would waste there time complaining to deaf ears.
I am also quite positive because I just want the music and don't care about presentation or useless books with some comments of famous fans, but the photos are nice.

udo said:

violetcrush said:

AGAIN.....YOUR OPINION ONLY,

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If you cannot discern facts from opinion I cannot help you.

You're listing facts and then giving your opinion on why you think they're bad. We are not the ones unable to discern facts from opinions.

embmmusic said:

udo said:

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If you cannot discern facts from opinion I cannot help you.

You're listing facts and then giving your opinion on why you think they're bad. We are not the ones unable to discern facts from opinions.

embmmusic said:

udo said:

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If you cannot discern facts from opinion I cannot help you.

You're listing facts and then giving your opinion on why you think they're bad. We are not the ones unable to discern facts from opinions.

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The opinions are clear:
We need more professionality for what the SDE project could have been.

Graycap23 said:

How does the new vynil sound compared 2 the original?

it sounds beautiful.

namepeace said:

Graycap23 said:

How does the new vynil sound compared 2 the original?

it sounds beautiful.

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Can you please do proper 24/192 rips?

udo said:

namepeace said:

it sounds beautiful.

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Can you please do proper 24/192 rips?

Don't have capacity to do it, sorry.

namepeace said:

Graycap23 said:

How does the new vynil sound compared 2 the original?

it sounds beautiful.

Have you been able to compare it to the CD remaster?

udo said:

embmmusic said:

You're listing facts and then giving your opinion on why you think they're bad. We are not the ones unable to discern facts from opinions.

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The opinions are clear:
We need more professionality for what the SDE project could have been.

WOOPS!!! You accidentally wrote "The" where "My" should have been placed