KingSausage said:

jaawwnn said:

No normal person cares about a Super Deluxe Edition of a 30+ year old album. Record Store Day would be a perfect place to release these fan-only half-finished albums.

Sadly, no “normal person” cares about any physical media these days. I agree RSD would be a great outlet for those other releases.

I agree that they could make Camille a one-off release for RSD. Even the stuff they are potentially cramming into one set (Dream Factory, Crystal Ball if sequence and redundant mixes are intact) might be best sold separately AND SPREAD OUT over RSDs.

I'm dying for a tracklist. I don't know if I can wait 3 more days. A ray of sunshine in this year of shit.

homesquid said:

Has anyone thought about the possibility WB can't use the "Crystal Ball" tracks released by Legacy? That would suck hard but....

Yeesh... This set would be gutted and a mess without those songs! At the very least I'm hoping for one of the alternate versions of Crystal Ball itself... and the full length version of Crucial! Hope Sony/Legacy aren't that petty...

glamlife2 said:

homesquid said:

Has anyone thought about the possibility WB can't use the "Crystal Ball" tracks released by Legacy? That would suck hard but....

Yeesh... This set would be gutted and a mess without those songs! At the very least I'm hoping for one of the alternate versions of Crystal Ball itself... and the full length version of Crucial! Hope Sony/Legacy aren't that petty...

there must be at least a little bit of lenience on both sides. i'm pretty sure prince released some
of those tracks back then without permission from warners who actually owned the rights to it.
he stopped releasing vault tracks as such pretty soon after (give or take a very rare few on the
npgmusicclub).

so who knows. maybe sony is 'lucky' that warners let them reissue crystal ball? that whole era
is a legal quagmire, i think. maybe not, maybe it's all hammered out crystal clear by now.

steakfinger said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

Will they be printing more than 12 copies of "super deluxe" this time around?

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I had no difficulty finding 1999 Super Deluxe even months after it came out. Brink and mortar stores are dead. Amazon had plenty. There was no shortage.

Maybe in the US. In Australia, there was extremely limited (and delayed) supply. I think they got 80 copies in country-wide.

homesquid said:

Has anyone thought about the possibility WB can't use the "Crystal Ball" tracks released by Legacy? That would suck hard but....

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Around the time that the Crystal Ball set was released, there was a lot of talk about the rights to release them. In principle, everything recorded during the WB years are "owned" by WB, iirc. I am sure that when they allowed Prince to release them, they kept the right to do so themselves as well, although it would require Prince's permission as well. That role is now the estate, so I don't think there would be any issue.

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Of course, ianal, I don't know what the contracts said or what the current situation is exactly, but logically thinking, I doubt WB transfered whatever rights they had completely over to Prince. There was talk that pushback from WB was part of the reason Crystall Ball 2 never materialised.

love2thenines2003 said:

It seems that the announcement for the 7 june (SOTT deluxes) is pushed back at this stage for the end of this month!

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A sign of how well this ship is run...

udo said:

love2thenines2003 said:

udo said:

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A sign of how well this ship is run...

This is directly linked to the current situation with the riots in the US and covid19 [Edited 6/5/20 3:55am] [Edited 6/5/20 3:57am]

how do either of these situations impact making a press release at all?

trickyjoe7777 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

udo said: This is directly linked to the current situation with the riots in the US and covid19 [Edited 6/5/20 3:55am] [Edited 6/5/20 3:57am]

how do either of these situations impact making a press release at all?

Precisely. And it would have been quite relevant to promote an album called Sign O The Times.
Even when The Estate gets handed such a easy and aligned marketing ploy and still they manage to fuck it up

[Edited 6/5/20 5:26am]

JorisE73 said:

trickyjoe7777 said:

how do either of these situations impact making a press release at all?

Precisely. And it would have been quite relevant to promote an album called Sign O The Times.
Even when The Estate gets handed such a easy and aligned marketing ploy and still they manage to fuck it up

[Edited 6/5/20 5:26am]

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So as my free advice to the Estate and asorted parties:

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Please stay quiet until you have a tracklist.

Then simply release the tracklist, title, etc.

This avoids the two dates issue observed.

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I apparently takes a few more lawyers to reach this conslusion in commercial circles.

JorisE73 said:

trickyjoe7777 said:

how do either of these situations impact making a press release at all?

Precisely. And it would have been quite relevant to promote an album called Sign O The Times.
Even when The Estate gets handed such a easy and aligned marketing ploy and still they manage to fuck it up

[Edited 6/5/20 5:26am]

Are you kidding? That sort of blatent capitilization is exactly what they need to avoid right now. It's called being sensitive (though as we know from the ongoing bullshit surroudning Extralovable, many orgers don't understand that concept).

yeah well, we can wait another few days or weeks. there's people dealing with more important stuff right now.

still excited and looking forward to it

TwiliteKid said:

JorisE73 said:

Precisely. And it would have been quite relevant to promote an album called Sign O The Times.
Even when The Estate gets handed such a easy and aligned marketing ploy and still they manage to fuck it up

[Edited 6/5/20 5:26am]

Are you kidding? That sort of blatent capitilization is exactly what they need to avoid right now. It's called being sensitive (though as we know from the ongoing bullshit surroudning Extralovable, many orgers don't understand that concept).

People shouldn't be so oversensitive regarding an album that nothing to do with anything that's happening right now.
Remember Prince added airplane noises at the beginning of The Rainbow Children when he released that on NPGMC instead of the regulatr ahdio show. Nobody cared back then an 9-11 was pretty big deal.

[Edited 6/5/20 6:13am]

Announce when you want, just don't mess with the release date.

Isn't this still just a rumor? Has there been any reason from an offical source to belive that this is real? I belive it. But let's not get too invested until there is some reason to be!

IstenSzek said:

yeah well, we can wait another few days or weeks. there's people dealing with more important stuff right now.

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What people and what stuff do you imply?

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still excited and looking forward to it

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Depends on the tracklist, mastering, packaging, etc for me.

Moonbeam said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Isn't this still just a rumor? Has there been any reason from an offical source to belive that this is real? I belive it. But let's not get too invested until there is some reason to be!

Yes it's still just a rumor i think, but a rumor that has been going around since last year (heard abpout thois somewhere in august richt after the Parade SDE rumor) but is now gaining traction.

JorisE73 said:

KingSausage said:

JorisE73 said:

People shouldn't be so oversensitive regarding an album that nothing to do with anything that's happening right now.
Remember Prince added airplane noises at the beginning of The Rainbow Children when he released that on NPGMC instead of the regulatr ahdio show. Nobody cared back then an 9-11 was pretty big deal.

[Edited 6/5/20 6:13am]

I don’t remember the added airplane noises. Do you have a link or source?

It's the ahdio show #9, it started with the sound of an airplane either lifting off or flying and then went into the start of the album.

JorisE73 said:

trickyjoe7777 said:

how do either of these situations impact making a press release at all?

Precisely. And it would have been quite relevant to promote an album called Sign O The Times.
Even when The Estate gets handed such a easy and aligned marketing ploy and still they manage to fuck it up

[Edited 6/5/20 5:26am]

There are all sorts of announcements being delayed at the moment. For example, Sony were due to reveal the Playstation 5 but they've delayed it because of the current events. It could certainly be perceived by many as being insensitive to say "Hey look at this new thing we're selling, get excited about it!" when there is so much turmoil. This is not just the estate being oversensitive, pretty much any marketing or PR company right now would be advising delays to announcements and launches.

massing said:

udo said:

IstenSzek said:

yeah well, we can wait another few days or weeks. there's people dealing with more important stuff right now.

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What people and what stuff do you imply?

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still excited and looking forward to it

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Depends on the tracklist, mastering, packaging, etc for me.

oh stop being so wilfully obtuse. your constant weird questioning of people gets on my last nerve.

IstenSzek said:

udo said:

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Depends on the tracklist, mastering, packaging, etc for me.

oh stop being so wilfully obtuse. your constant weird questioning of people gets on my last nerve.

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If you can only utter vague sentences, of which I tried to get some meaning, then why do you do not simply explain? Instead you start complaining about your nerves.

Your nerves are of no consequence to this release that is being discussed here.

This release could be the next best thing since sliced bread. Thus this requires more clarity than you provided.

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'important' stuff is only that in the eye of the beholder.

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Back to the music:

How full will these 8 discs be on average?

And without the 2 album discs?

udo said:

IstenSzek said:

oh stop being so wilfully obtuse. your constant weird questioning of people gets on my last nerve.

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If you can only utter vague sentences, of which I tried to get some meaning, then why do you do not simply explain? Instead you start complaining about your nerves.

Your nerves are of no consequence to this release that is being discussed here.

This release could be the next best thing since sliced bread. Thus this requires more clarity than you provided.

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'important' stuff is only that in the eye of the beholder.

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Back to the music:

How full will these 8 discs be on average?

And without the 2 album discs?

ok well, yeah. i don't even know how to respond to that anymore.

let's just agree to ignore each other in future.

i do agree with you that this release could be the next best thing since sliced bread tho

Strive said: