You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. I don't agree that Prince looked ill since 2014. He did Arsino in early March 2014 and he looked good for his age. He appeared at the Golden Globes in early 2015 and again he looks good. At the end of year when he appeared at the Grammy's I believe is when he started looking thing. He would have know of Denise Matthews/Vanity fatal diagnosis at this time. This is the reason I believe he gets thin. He was commiserating and already planning. | |
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I disagree. My mother was on narcotic pain killers for years, over 10, for neck pain. She was not an addict. She was an RN and very cognazant of the petential for addiction as I'm sure Prince was well aware of. My mother often cut pills in half just as is noted in the document evidence in the Prince case. If he was addict, when he received two 2mg IV shots of Narcan in Moline he would have gone into full blown withdrawal. He didn't. So, clearly he was using without the assistance of a doctor, but I believe there is much evidence he was not addicted. | |
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Actually something did happen and it was in 2013. Prince was hospitalized in Oct 2013 according to the police files. I believe it my have been a suicide attempt Denise Matthew/Vanity related. It is reflected in the music. Art Official Age - The Breakdown - You keep breaking me down, down. Something happened with Denise Matthews. I can't say what it is bomshell related. On Plectrum Electrum released with Art Official Age he has a song Another Love. It was a song by I think her name is Alice Smith that Prince modifies for his use. He is talking to himself in this song. I got to find another love. That other love appears - Judith Hill Hit and Run Phase One is about her. She gave Prince love in his final days. But he could not shake off Denise Matthews. So Denise got sick and died and Prince followed. Judith is really the hero of this story and she has be badly mistreated. She should be celebrated and show love by Prince fans. She did everything a person could do to help him forget Denise Matthews. No one could have done anymore. | |
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I kind of glanced through all the theories, posts, etc., and it just hit me just how sad all of this is. No matter what happened, Prince isn't here, he's gone. We'll never be able to feel the excitement of a new concert, a new album, or speculate on what he is going to do next. | |
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Actually we do have evidence of Prince's state of mind. Read the Judith Hill statement in the police report. The police after listening to her point blank asked her if he was suicidal. She said 50-50. I believe this non-committal answer says it all. She was in love with him and wants it not to be true but she didn't say no. If you actuall read his statements, it's clear.
That twitter message about Controversy is part of the suicide note. Read the lyrics: "Some people want to die so they can be free." Prince invited Controversy. In fact i believe that is his signature song.
As far as sad, you shouldn't be. That is why Prince went to the elevator. He wants you to read the lyrics of Let's Go Crazy about the elevator. Are we going to let the elevator break us down? Oh no! Go crazy.
Prince is talking by his action, he wants you to celebrate his life and music.
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He was addicted. He was in withdrawal on 4/20. On the night he rec'd the Narcan x2, he likely did feel pretty crummy but he was likely making the best of it until he got home that morning to take some more.
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There was a suicide attempt in 2010/2011. 2013 was for something else.
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So well-said.
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benni said: I kind of glanced through all the theories, posts, etc., and it just hit me just how sad all of this is. No matter what happened, Prince isn't here, he's gone. We'll never be able to feel the excitement of a new concert, a new album, or speculate on what he is going to do next. Thank you, Benni. I completely agree. You said it beautifully. The kind of love that takes over your body, mind, & soul | |
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Why are even on this thread then? | |
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You have to push Shift and Enter at the same time to get spacing between paragraphs, and hit Enter twice. | |
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benni said: I kind of glanced through all the theories, posts, etc., and it just hit me just how sad all of this is. No matter what happened, Prince isn't here, he's gone. We'll never be able to feel the excitement of a new concert, a new album, or speculate on what he is going to do next. People don't speculate in the hopes of resurrecting him. They speculate because, in true Prince fashion, he didn't just die a simple death. He died with a thousand little oddities surrounding it. Like a broken vase that shattered into a thousand pieces that could fit back together any number of ways and then you notice there is a numbered code printed on the inside of the vase. Now it is no longer just a broken vase, there is some sort of puzzle or riddle attached. And while I am not saying he was trying to convey some clandestine message, I am saying that there is enough bizarre stuff going on that it garners a lot of theorizing. And why shouldn't it? Prince was important to a lot of people and making sense of his passing is also important. | |
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Again, it was a poster on the Org who tweeted to Prince. That poster is still an active poster here. We've explained that one to you.
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Benni, would you please explain the Tweet?
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PennyPurple said: Benni, would you please explain the Tweet?
It's true - the "I am transformed" bit was actually a fan review of the Piano and A Mic show and Prince was notoriously bad at retweeting or replying to tweets. He'd usually just copy paste the whole thing and reply inline. With this, he just copy pasted that one but. The author of the review clarified this at one point. | |
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True! Prince(r.i.p.) did the same thing to me when I tweeted him something from my private headquarters @ "The CBox Factory" that he liked.. "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." | |
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Thank you Benni! [Edited 12/30/19 17:20pm] | |
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I said this before in another post but maybe it bears repeating here. The Piano and a Microphone Tour was his farewell tour to Denise Matthews. I've advised looking up setlists and studying the music. Performers have to go on stage many times when they are probably not feeling it. However, in these shows, the audience saw a show of Prince at his rawest, most intense and heartfelt. He was pouring out his feelings in these shows. There was no fakery going on in these shows, quite the oposite. Anyone who saw a Piano and Microphone show live is quite privileged.
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Sorry the Grammy's were in early 2015. That was the orange suit. He still was looking good there. It was the American Music Awards at the end of November. That is where he is looking thin and has a far off look in his eyes. He know Denise's days are numbered at this point and he is about to embark on the Piano and a Microphone Tour. | |
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No it wasn't. It was his way of dealing with getting off the pain meds. Plain in simple. Everything else evolved from there. Including the memoir.
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Your comment makes no sense to me. Are you trying to imply that embarking on the Piano and Microphone Tour was his way of getting off pain meds? And starting to write his memoir was also part of getting off pain meds? | |
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It makes sense. The memoir evolved out of his talks and expressions when playing the music and talking to the audience. . Prince was also very troubled and almost cried in an interview back then when talking about his friend Joni Mitchells health. Prince was also dealing with the break up of Andy Allo who he was very smitten with and inspired by prior to Judith Hill. | |
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OldFriends4Sale said:
It makes sense. The memoir evolved out of his talks and expressions when playing the music and talking to the audience. . Prince was also very troubled and almost cried in an interview back then when talking about his friend Joni Mitchells health. Prince was also dealing with the break up of Andy Allo who he was very smitten with and inspired by prior to Judith Hill. No that makes no sense. He wasn't promoting anything. And touring does not help people get off drugs, lol. It's the opposite, in fact. He broke up with Andy Allo well before the Piano and a Mic tour, like years. [Edited 12/30/19 20:20pm] | |
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Prince was not planning to die/commit suicide. He was clearly ready to live. After doing AoA he was probably a bit depressed. He even admitted when asked why have a producer, he responded 'Well when things don't seem to be working...' . Prince was definately hopeful and very inspired. He was reaching out to people he loved and wanted to work with them again like the Time, the Family, the Revolution. He bought his new purple 'bass'? that he showed off at one of the Piano Mic shows. . Having lost Kim Upsher in December 2015 and a few month later Denise Matthews in 2016 definately hit him hard. But he was ready to live. | |
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Because it doesn't go along with your premise that he was suicidal. . Touring as he had before with 3rd Eye Girl and NPG he was on his feet. He was in pain and that of course would cause him to need the pain pills. Being able to sit and play (doing something he never planned before) made it so he would not be in pain being on his feet, dancing, walking etc . You're not paying attention. I never said he broke up with Andy during the P&M shows. It was Andy that left Prince during the period of the release of AoA. Judith Hill came after Andy Allo. So Prince was dealing with the loss of the love and inspiration of Allo... | |
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It was my understanding Denise never underwent a kidney transplant. I dunno though.
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