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Reply #2070 posted 08/25/18 9:54am

precioux

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[Edited 8/25/18 9:55am]

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Reply #2071 posted 08/25/18 9:57am

precioux

SkipperLove said:

Can we talk statute of limitations for a second? I read that Minnesota's statute for drug offenses (which I believe includes trafficking) was three years. How does it apply here? I wonder if a lawyer can shed some light. I guess what I am wondering is if Prince's dealers or procurers came forward in three years or so to tell the truth, could they be prosecuted. . If not, could the public get answers if we just wait.


[Edited 8/25/18 9:48am]




There is no statute of limitations in 3rd degree murder- which is what the dealer would be charged with

ETA- this is way past a ‘drug offense’- someone died, hence 3rd degree murder





Unless you are speaking of a civil ‘wrongful death suit ‘- that’s a different ballgame
[Edited 8/25/18 10:14am]
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Reply #2072 posted 08/25/18 9:59am

SkipperLove

What about procurer?

precioux said:

SkipperLove said:

Can we talk statute of limitations for a second? I read that Minnesota's statute for drug offenses (which I believe includes trafficking) was three years. How does it apply here? I wonder if a lawyer can shed some light. I guess what I am wondering is if Prince's dealers or procurers came forward in three years or so to tell the truth, could they be prosecuted. . If not, could the public get answers if we just wait.

[Edited 8/25/18 9:48am]

There is no statute of limitations in 3rd degree murder- which is what the dealer would be charged with

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Reply #2073 posted 08/25/18 10:02am

precioux

SkipperLove said:

What about procurer?



precioux said:


SkipperLove said:

Can we talk statute of limitations for a second? I read that Minnesota's statute for drug offenses (which I believe includes trafficking) was three years. How does it apply here? I wonder if a lawyer can shed some light. I guess what I am wondering is if Prince's dealers or procurers came forward in three years or so to tell the truth, could they be prosecuted. . If not, could the public get answers if we just wait.



[Edited 8/25/18 9:48am]



There is no statute of limitations in 3rd degree murder- which is what the dealer would be charged with




Prince was the procurer and is dead- he paid the ultimate price- procurers usually don’t get much time, they are strong armed to ‘sing’ in order to find the big fish...they are not looking to throw someone in jail for buying (unless someone else bought for Prince) and have their eye on the ‘big boss’, not the corner pusher
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Reply #2074 posted 08/25/18 10:05am

peggyon

I should clarify re: Prince's reputation. The family may not want to open a can of worms (autopsy results) and damage his reputation=legacy=money.

Menes said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Yeah...like the full autopsy report...

At this point , I don't think that they (whoever they are) even care about his reputation . It has been said that he didn't care about them as much , so there it is. I thnk that in his last days , the only person he cared about and trusted (however limited)was KJ. Larry preached himself out of the trust dept. when he recommended Manuela and the "church".

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Reply #2075 posted 08/25/18 10:19am

precioux

I thought for a second that’s why they dropped the suit against the hospital-because if it went to trial, pretty sure the autopsy would be available to the public as it would be part of that court document...but then they turned around and sued DrS...not sure if this plays out if the autopsy will be released to the public




peggyon said:

I should clarify re: Prince's reputation. The family may not want to open a can of worms (autopsy results) and damage his reputation=legacy=money.







Menes said:




Bodhitheblackdog said:



Yeah...like the full autopsy report...



At this point , I don't think that they (whoever they are) even care about his reputation . It has been said that he didn't care about them as much , so there it is. I thnk that in his last days , the only person he cared about and trusted (however limited)was KJ. Larry preached himself out of the trust dept. when he recommended Manuela and the "church".



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Reply #2076 posted 08/25/18 10:24am

Menes

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Got it!!! Zip file#5, statement transcripts (Judith Hill) Page 149 JH- ok, there’s another thing, there was before the first show, or before...after the first show when he was more depressed talking about all those things there was a guy from Electric Fetus which is a small independent um record shop and he had one of the um younger guys ah that owns it come out and...and sit there and talk about business things like we want to do this and that with the store, so that was it. (This was after Ceelo and Janelle Monáe visited him shortly prior-pull it up to read full interview) ****A guy from 15 miles away is going to fly out to your concert to ‘talk business ‘....BULLSHIT! ETA- prince himself said that (in Moline hospital) that ‘he knew his body ‘ and was confused as to the state he wound up in and said it was from ‘mixing the two’...the prescribed (KJ Rx) Percocet and the illicit pills he just got? Remember he said to a staff member of the hospital ‘someone gave them to me to relax’...if he was referring to the pills KJ gave him, with KJ standing right there, he wouldn’t have said ‘someone’ [Edited 8/25/18 9:30am]

Well, that is interesting.

To follow up on Judith's statements... Prior to any statements being revealed to us by Tyka, Judith had made statements (on 6-16 @1500 hours) that were eerily similar concerning Prince's state of mind. I don't know who was channeling who, but I doubt Tyka had access to the tapes Judith made. This is rather unusual that the two would make statements that to a large degree, coincide with his depression and end of life thoughts.

Judith... ( while on the trip to Atlanta) "Prince talked a lot about the good old days and stated that "oh man, I love sleeping more, maybe it means I've done all I'm supposed to do on this earth". Judith then states that Prince told her after the second show that he thought he was going to fall asleep( this is possibly when he went off stage and ingested a substance).

Judith also stated that it was hard to see Prince in that state. According to Judith, Prince told her that "was the mountain top Atlanta show and now I can go rest". He also commented to her about the summer tour by stating "you're still going to be there if I'm not right'?

The day after the overdose , Judith and Prince talked about the pain pills. Judith said she told Prince "no more pills" to which Prince replied, "then I can't perform" ( this was supposedly because his hands hurt). The more detailed report by detective Nelson is in the reports.

* She also stated that Prince admitted to her and KJ that there was something else in the bayer bottle. When prompted to tell reveal what it was , he didn't answer.

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Reply #2077 posted 08/25/18 10:34am

precioux

Menes said:



precioux said:


Got it!!! Zip file#5, statement transcripts (Judith Hill) Page 149 JH- ok, there’s another thing, there was before the first show, or before...after the first show when he was more depressed talking about all those things there was a guy from Electric Fetus which is a small independent um record shop and he had one of the um younger guys ah that owns it come out and...and sit there and talk about business things like we want to do this and that with the store, so that was it. (This was after Ceelo and Janelle Monáe visited him shortly prior-pull it up to read full interview) ****A guy from 15 miles away is going to fly out to your concert to ‘talk business ‘....BULLSHIT! ETA- prince himself said that (in Moline hospital) that ‘he knew his body ‘ and was confused as to the state he wound up in and said it was from ‘mixing the two’...the prescribed (KJ Rx) Percocet and the illicit pills he just got? Remember he said to a staff member of the hospital ‘someone gave them to me to relax’...if he was referring to the pills KJ gave him, with KJ standing right there, he wouldn’t have said ‘someone’ [Edited 8/25/18 9:30am]

Well, that is interesting.

To follow up on Judith's statements... Prior to any statements being revealed to us by Tyka, Judith had made statements (on 6-16 @1500 hours) that were eerily similar concerning Prince's state of mind. I don't know who was channeling who, but I doubt Tyka had access to the tapes Judith made. This is rather unusual that the two would make statements that to a large degree, coincide with his depression and end of life thoughts.

Judith... ( while on the trip to Atlanta) "Prince talked a lot about the good old days and stated that "oh man, I love sleeping more, maybe it means I've done all I'm supposed to do on this earth". Judith then states that Prince told her after the second show that he thought he was going to fall asleep( this is possibly when he went off stage and ingested a substance).

Judith also stated that it was hard to see Prince in that state. According to Judith, Prince told her that "was the mountain top Atlanta show and now I can go rest". He also commented to her about the summer tour by stating "you're still going to be there if I'm not right'?

The day after the overdose , Judith and Prince talked about the pain pills. Judith said she told Prince "no more pills" to which Prince replied, "then I can't perform" ( this was supposedly because his hands hurt). The more detailed report by detective Nelson is in the reports.

* She also stated that Prince admitted to her and KJ that there was something else in the bayer bottle. When prompted to tell reveal what it was , he didn't answer.





EXACTLY what I’ve questioned before! Re: Tyka/JH statement on ‘he said he’s done all he’s come to do’...those 2 statements mirrored each other verbatim and Tyka didn’t have access to these transcripts when she said it. Do you think either was ‘coached ‘? Like I’ve said a million times-I don’t believe in coincidences
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Reply #2078 posted 08/25/18 10:55am

pupa1

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Menes said:

At this point , I don't think that they (whoever they are) even care about his reputation . It has been said that he didn't care about them as much , so there it is. I thnk that in his last days , the only person he cared about and trusted (however limited)was KJ. Larry preached himself out of the trust dept. when he recommended Manuela and the "church".

more than 'recommended': sold, rationalized and took advantage of a lonely and confused man. Remember, Prince was a MARRIED MAN when Larry greased the skids for his affair with another woman by telling Prince it was just fine to bang M2 because she had a bible in her lap. Pathetic hypocrits. When Prince got hip to the chaos and disorder that that kind of moral/emotional disconnect brings...he was never quite the same again, IMO

Just to clarify Prince was having an affair with Manuela the same time he was married with Mayte. More he had always multiple affairs with different women. Both Mayte and Manuela knew it and they know he was dating both the same time. Obviously some women were the one night one,, some some months one..a few had the chance to be with him on a strangely stable relationship..but every woman could't decide anything more: to stay or to go.

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Reply #2079 posted 08/25/18 11:03am

Menes

precioux said:

SkipperLove said:

What about procurer?

Prince was the procurer and is dead- he paid the ultimate price- procurers usually don’t get much time, they are strong armed to ‘sing’ in order to find the big fish...they are not looking to throw someone in jail for buying (unless someone else bought for Prince) and have their eye on the ‘big boss’, not the corner pusher

Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.

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Reply #2080 posted 08/25/18 11:20am

che777x

precioux said:

I thought for a second that’s why they dropped the suit against the hospital-because if it went to trial, pretty sure the autopsy would be available to the public as it would be part of that court document...but then they turned around and sued DrS...not sure if this plays out if the autopsy will be released to the public peggyon said:

I should clarify re: Prince's reputation. The family may not want to open a can of worms (autopsy results) and damage his reputation=legacy=money.

Since the investigation information is already out there, the family probably has nothing to lose, and perhaps could only gain through the discovery process of the suit. There may be questions they may have that could be answered with subpoenas, etc. If there is a trial, then most information is forced into the open, individuals could be added to the suit, and the truth should be revealed “to some extent.” IMO.

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Reply #2081 posted 08/25/18 11:20am

pupa1

Menes said:

precioux said:

SkipperLove said: Prince was the procurer and is dead- he paid the ultimate price- procurers usually don’t get much time, they are strong armed to ‘sing’ in order to find the big fish...they are not looking to throw someone in jail for buying (unless someone else bought for Prince) and have their eye on the ‘big boss’, not the corner pusher

Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.

I am pretty sure he committed suicide, I understand it could be important to know if somebody tailored some pills for him just for that purpose, But everybody could commit suicide in different manner right know...so it could be interesting to know more about the planning going under the suicide action. My guess: suicide was in and out of his mind since a while..at a certain point the idea was growing stronger and he finally decided to go..

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Reply #2082 posted 08/25/18 11:23am

SkipperLove

I think what you are saying makes a lot of sense. However, I also think that it makes no sense for the family to go after that doctor..unless they want to hide something. If that's the case, then they are rather sleazy for throwing that doctor under the bus for cutting some corners with what he might have originally thought were some pain issues.

Menes said:

precioux said:

SkipperLove said: Prince was the procurer and is dead- he paid the ultimate price- procurers usually don’t get much time, they are strong armed to ‘sing’ in order to find the big fish...they are not looking to throw someone in jail for buying (unless someone else bought for Prince) and have their eye on the ‘big boss’, not the corner pusher

Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.

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Reply #2083 posted 08/25/18 11:29am

precioux

Menes said:



precioux said:


SkipperLove said:

What about procurer?




Prince was the procurer and is dead- he paid the ultimate price- procurers usually don’t get much time, they are strong armed to ‘sing’ in order to find the big fish...they are not looking to throw someone in jail for buying (unless someone else bought for Prince) and have their eye on the ‘big boss’, not the corner pusher

Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.





YASS!!! Noticing the same things!!! Pill press-powder form, etc that I have read up on as well...


Still no answer on the ‘powdery substance’ found and photographed in PP...maybe it’s ‘redacted ‘...lol. ISLIJAG said previously the powder may have been in the DEA files...those were released with no mention





Furthermore, yes- those pills were specifically made- hence no trace of one identical to it. Unless maybe you count the newly used excecution concoction for those on death row (hence ‘off label’)


In regards to ‘why would prince procure pills through KJ? Simple. Prince was a smart man, and had this running around his head for a while. Maybe KJ was the innocent ‘fall guy’, regardless-Prince KNEW this would be investigated and if there was ‘reason to show’ he had a legitimate name need for pain meds , it would automatically throw the ME’s decision off and it would HAVE to be ruled accidental. Giving Prince never went to the Dr and always tried to grab the records..it makes sense-there was a SPECIFIC reason for him blatantly going to the DR. And that reason was to throw the ME off after death...
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Reply #2084 posted 08/25/18 11:33am

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Menes said:

Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.

Yes, you have sent the links.

So locally made and custom made.

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Reply #2085 posted 08/25/18 12:08pm

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I just wish the truth would come out NOW. In 30 years , I don't really want to have to read "Prince actually committed suicide " or "Prince had AIDS" or"Prince was terminal " and have my heart ripped out of my chest all over again. I'm sorry but if the story changes decades for now and we have to grieve all over again...i mean that would just be cruel. What is wrong with the truth? Sorry those just are my honest feelings.
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Reply #2086 posted 08/25/18 12:09pm

peggyon

precioux said:

Menes said:

Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.

YASS!!! Noticing the same things!!! Pill press-powder form, etc that I have read up on as well... Still no answer on the ‘powdery substance’ found and photographed in PP...maybe it’s ‘redacted ‘...lol. ISLIJAG said previously the powder may have been in the DEA files...those were released with no mention Furthermore, yes- those pills were specifically made- hence no trace of one identical to it. Unless maybe you count the newly used excecution concoction for those on death row (hence ‘off label’) In regards to ‘why would prince procure pills through KJ? Simple. Prince was a smart man, and had this running around his head for a while. Maybe KJ was the innocent ‘fall guy’, regardless-Prince KNEW this would be investigated and if there was ‘reason to show’ he had a legitimate name need for pain meds , it would automatically throw the ME’s decision off and it would HAVE to be ruled accidental. Giving Prince never went to the Dr and always tried to grab the records..it makes sense-there was a SPECIFIC reason for him blatantly going to the DR. And that reason was to throw the ME off after death... [Edited 8/25/18 11:41am]

Very interesting idea: throwing the ME oFF

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Reply #2087 posted 08/25/18 12:09pm

precioux

PennyPurple said:



Menes said:






Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.



Yes, you have sent the links.


So locally made and custom made.






Are you ok, Penny?
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Reply #2088 posted 08/25/18 12:10pm

Bodhitheblackd
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Menes said:

precioux said:

SkipperLove said: Prince was the procurer and is dead- he paid the ultimate price- procurers usually don’t get much time, they are strong armed to ‘sing’ in order to find the big fish...they are not looking to throw someone in jail for buying (unless someone else bought for Prince) and have their eye on the ‘big boss’, not the corner pusher

Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.

I agree that he committed suicide and I am grateful to you, Menes, for boldly stating this truth which has been hiding in plain sight.

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Reply #2089 posted 08/25/18 12:13pm

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precioux said:

Menes said:

Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.

YASS!!! Noticing the same things!!! Pill press-powder form, etc that I have read up on as well... Still no answer on the ‘powdery substance’ found and photographed in PP...maybe it’s ‘redacted ‘...lol. ISLIJAG said previously the powder may have been in the DEA files...those were released with no mention Furthermore, yes- those pills were specifically made- hence no trace of one identical to it. Unless maybe you count the newly used excecution concoction for those on death row (hence ‘off label’) In regards to ‘why would prince procure pills through KJ? Simple. Prince was a smart man, and had this running around his head for a while. Maybe KJ was the innocent ‘fall guy’, regardless-Prince KNEW this would be investigated and if there was ‘reason to show’ he had a legitimate name need for pain meds , it would automatically throw the ME’s decision off and it would HAVE to be ruled accidental. Giving Prince never went to the Dr and always tried to grab the records..it makes sense-there was a SPECIFIC reason for him blatantly going to the DR. And that reason was to throw the ME off after death... [Edited 8/25/18 11:41am]

great observations and summation Precioux...big thanks for all your hard work.

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Reply #2090 posted 08/25/18 12:21pm

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IMO, what is hashed over on the Org and what actually is/was are two different situations. The general consensus among those who are posting here at this time may be that P took his life. There are facts that suggest this, but that does not make it so.

This family may not be the best family as we see them, but in my knowledge of black families, there are often periods of long separations, strife, and downright animosity toward each other, but families always seem to come together for a while when there is a tragedy. The gossip/rumor mill is always alive, and people generally know what is going on with each other. The family may not think he committed suicide, there may be other factors that we don’t know. I’m assuming that most of us do not know Prince or have never met or spoken with Prince. We cannot be sure of what the actual events were, and what details were left out of the released investigation information. A suit can serve as a tool for fleshing out the base facts, and for separating co-conspirators.

[Edited 8/25/18 23:15pm]

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Reply #2091 posted 08/25/18 12:23pm

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peggyon said:



precioux said:


Menes said:


Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.



YASS!!! Noticing the same things!!! Pill press-powder form, etc that I have read up on as well... Still no answer on the ‘powdery substance’ found and photographed in PP...maybe it’s ‘redacted ‘...lol. ISLIJAG said previously the powder may have been in the DEA files...those were released with no mention Furthermore, yes- those pills were specifically made- hence no trace of one identical to it. Unless maybe you count the newly used excecution concoction for those on death row (hence ‘off label’) In regards to ‘why would prince procure pills through KJ? Simple. Prince was a smart man, and had this running around his head for a while. Maybe KJ was the innocent ‘fall guy’, regardless-Prince KNEW this would be investigated and if there was ‘reason to show’ he had a legitimate name need for pain meds , it would automatically throw the ME’s decision off and it would HAVE to be ruled accidental. Giving Prince never went to the Dr and always tried to grab the records..it makes sense-there was a SPECIFIC reason for him blatantly going to the DR. And that reason was to throw the ME off after death... [Edited 8/25/18 11:41am]



Very interesting idea: throwing the ME oFF








Yes, Prince was a ‘thinker’ and if it had to be one or the other, with his ego- he would rather his fans believe it was accidental than that he ‘gave up’. I don’t view it as ‘gave up’, rather-true to Prince behavior-he did things his way and controlled the outcome...for his own personal reasons. It doesn’t diminish my respect for him as a human or an artist, and I truly think that is what his fear was...what his fans would think
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Reply #2092 posted 08/25/18 12:33pm

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Menes said:



precioux said:


SkipperLove said:

What about procurer?




Prince was the procurer and is dead- he paid the ultimate price- procurers usually don’t get much time, they are strong armed to ‘sing’ in order to find the big fish...they are not looking to throw someone in jail for buying (unless someone else bought for Prince) and have their eye on the ‘big boss’, not the corner pusher

Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.



What was that good reason?
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Reply #2093 posted 08/25/18 12:38pm

Menes

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.

Yes, you have sent the links.

So locally made and custom made.

I am deadly focused on three things . Source/connection, method of delivery/pickup, composition.

Source/connection- This has to be three fold. Prince, a doctor, a chemist/lab. Prince is very private, cautious , non-trusting and overly paranoid. You would have to gain his trust over time by doing his bidding without presenting a challenge or appearing to be confrontational. He needs a yes man/woman. This person has to have medical credentials. This person understands, and is sympathetic to "end of life care". This person has treated Prince and is familiar with his needs. Illegal as it may be in many states, they 'assist' all the time.

They were numerous doctors flown in from Minnesota by Prince at various times to his shows. They were also some that were provided by the venue upon request. What a joy that must have been to eat at the masters table( a live concert) where you are providing the ultimate "care" to keep the show going. It has been mentioned time and time again in the reports. No one ever knew their names.

The doctor is connected to a chemist or a lab that can fabricate a unique chemical signature to provide long term relief . These pills present a synergistic relationship between fentanyl and lidocaine as in: down/up regulation. These pills (legal or illegal), and the combination therein, are not in circulation to date.The reason you won't find these pills or literature quite readily available is because it is still rather experimental when solidified in pill form. You would have to have a very defined and narrow purpose: To stem the pain of opioid depletion in one receptor ( which would cause intense pain from withdrawal) by supplementing it with another substance to taper off the withdrawal symptom.

The idea that any drug dealer would want that for his client is preposterous and makes no business sense. Furthermore, no one is swallowing raw lidocaine pills for kicks. You would know the difference between that and something like fentanyl in a matter of minutes . You would rather turn the feds on to your dealer for misrepresenting product. But armed with enough scientific information ,you can combine raw lidocaine to a single hydrocodone pill and it would have the same effect as if you had it in combination form in the fentanyl pill. In essence, measuring the dosage with singular pills. Someone has to figure all of that out. Do we think Prince did that? I don't.

There are way too many statements ( concerning his state of mind), too many conversations about his frail appearance, his erratic mood swings, etc. and lastly, a healthy dose of pills that by all accounts , presents a willingness to continue to use, which convinced me that he had lost hope and found a dignified way out. It wasn't easy to say that. I use the word suicide , and in doing so, aroused the perception of the very act. When your family or you yourself decide that enough is enough, the only difference one may experience is that you may not do it yourself. Other than that, same result.

They should have pounded the pavement for those "doctors". They exist.

[Edited 8/25/18 12:42pm]

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Reply #2094 posted 08/25/18 12:44pm

peggyon

I agree, he would want us to think it was accidental. Penny had asked this, why do you think he allowed himself to be in mild to moderate withdrawal until the urine test?

Also, it was right after the urine test that he died. Did he want the results on record?

precioux said:

peggyon said:

Very interesting idea: throwing the ME oFF

Yes, Prince was a ‘thinker’ and if it had to be one or the other, with his ego- he would rather his fans believe it was accidental than that he ‘gave up’. I don’t view it as ‘gave up’, rather-true to Prince behavior-he did things his way and controlled the outcome...for his own personal reasons. It doesn’t diminish my respect for him as a human or an artist, and I truly think that is what his fear was...what his fans would think sad

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Reply #2095 posted 08/25/18 12:46pm

Menes

Krystalkisses said:

Menes said:

Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.

What was that good reason?

He was tired of being "Prince". It was what everybody wanted. There's a mental limit to being a million things when you don't identify anymore.

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Reply #2096 posted 08/25/18 12:47pm

Krystalkisses

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precioux said:

peggyon said:



precioux said:


Menes said:


Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.



YASS!!! Noticing the same things!!! Pill press-powder form, etc that I have read up on as well... Still no answer on the ‘powdery substance’ found and photographed in PP...maybe it’s ‘redacted ‘...lol. ISLIJAG said previously the powder may have been in the DEA files...those were released with no mention Furthermore, yes- those pills were specifically made- hence no trace of one identical to it. Unless maybe you count the newly used excecution concoction for those on death row (hence ‘off label’) In regards to ‘why would prince procure pills through KJ? Simple. Prince was a smart man, and had this running around his head for a while. Maybe KJ was the innocent ‘fall guy’, regardless-Prince KNEW this would be investigated and if there was ‘reason to show’ he had a legitimate name need for pain meds , it would automatically throw the ME’s decision off and it would HAVE to be ruled accidental. Giving Prince never went to the Dr and always tried to grab the records..it makes sense-there was a SPECIFIC reason for him blatantly going to the DR. And that reason was to throw the ME off after death... [Edited 8/25/18 11:41am]



Very interesting idea: throwing the ME oFF








Yes, Prince was a ‘thinker’ and if it had to be one or the other, with his ego- he would rather his fans believe it was accidental than that he ‘gave up’. I don’t view it as ‘gave up’, rather-true to Prince behavior-he did things his way and controlled the outcome...for his own personal reasons. It doesn’t diminish my respect for him as a human or an artist, and I truly think that is what his fear was...what his fans would think
sad


Wasn't he worried about what God would think?
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Reply #2097 posted 08/25/18 12:52pm

Krystalkisses

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Menes said:



Krystalkisses said:


Menes said:


Prince committed suicide and I certainly believe it was assisted suicide. I am willing to push all my chips to the center of the table with two Alan Alda's.

As of 1-25-17, though Officer Voller stated that he did not have any way to tack the number of fentanyl deaths in MInnesota over the past year( inssert bullshit here),he was able to say that they have not have any other fentanyl deaths in pill form OTHER THAN PRINCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. Officer Voller stated that most of the fentanyl deaths occurring in Minnesota, are in POWDER FORM AND BEEN MIXED WITH HEROIN . So ummm, not lidocaine? Some of you kill me with the lidocaine in fentanyl bulking bullshit. Put a lid on it. He then went off on a tangent about pill press operations in California.. Hahaha , it was right under your nose buddy. He obviously didn't read about all of the clandestine pill press operations IN MINNESOTA right around 2015. Penny, you know the links I have sent.


As of July 7th, 2017,the DEA had been unable to locate a similar pill composition although there had been an influx/surge in synthetic laced fentanyl pills since his death. They claimed that it was not surprising, but hey , it's 2018 and there is still no evidence to support that these pills have showed up on the market/streets.

Prince bought these and they were specifically tailored for him. This is a not your street chemist at work here. I believe this is why he was able to survive that long while on them. If taken as directed , he would still be here. He chose not to ( and for good reason).







Two DNA mixtures on bayer and aleve bottle ; one major male DNA on bayer and aleve bottle identified as Prince.



What was that good reason?

He was tired of being "Prince". It was what everybody wanted. There's a mental limit to being a million things when you don't identify anymore.



I empathize with that. I can understand.
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Reply #2098 posted 08/25/18 12:59pm

Menes

Did we notice that the Org. was being accessed from the computer? Also, Mediatakeout, ( wretched site) where the AIDS rumor probably started was accessed right around the time of the overdose I think.

Someone was also using the same computer after his death. Scrubbing?

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Reply #2099 posted 08/25/18 1:56pm

precioux

Menes said:

Did we notice that the Org. was being accessed from the computer? Also, Mediatakeout, ( wretched site) where the AIDS rumor probably started was accessed right around the time of the overdose I think.

Someone was also using the same computer after his death. Scrubbing?




Yep. Noticed and added to ‘note to self ‘
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