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Reply #180 posted 06/01/17 12:29pm

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pricetag said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, so am I.

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See my eviseration above. Late to the party, as usual.

Still nothing but B.S from you.

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Reply #181 posted 06/01/17 12:41pm

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"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #182 posted 06/01/17 12:48pm

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laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:
--Once again there is no proof of him picking up controlled substances from Walgreens. They found no record of controlled substances for him in the states for at least the last year. Stop getting your info from TMZ. Even if had been picking up RXs from Walgreens it would mean he had an Rx so what would be the big fucking deal other than invading his privacy. You need to go have several seats or try to keep up with what is going on.
. Give it a rest. WE are the ones who've been keeping up and have read warrants, etc. This has nothing to do with walgreens. The KJ prescription was from CVS. You DO seem very familiar with TMZ. Care to fill us in? THERE IS NO SHAME IN ADDICTION. Those drugs control your brain. If they did not, no one would be addicted. Learn how these drugs were sold as non-addictive and then when people became addicted, doctors cut them off. THAT is why people start looking for other sources. . Prince was known to be gulping painkillers in 2009, which is when they started becoming more limited. My daughter couldn't even get them for her migraines after that time. [Edited 5/29/17 21:05pm]

Did you even think about this before you typed it?

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Reply #183 posted 06/01/17 12:48pm

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cloveringold85 said:

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I love it!!!

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Reply #184 posted 06/01/17 12:53pm

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This one's even better!

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"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #185 posted 06/01/17 1:47pm

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moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:


Actually they were not laying around they were in bottles in his living quarters. I do not recall anyone saying they found pills in the studios or under seat cushions or in his cars.It was about 100 pills and a few people on this board who get these pills say they come in 90 day batches. Prince did not have a pill factory in Paisley Park and considering it is a 65 Sq foot facilty he could have hid these pills well enough so they could not be found at all. Think about that for a moment. The security cameras were off so we have no idea what happened in that building until the EMT arrived.
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But they were in aspirin bottles and vitamin bottles? and you keep changing your argument, first he's taking them because of pain, then he's not taking them they were planted then Pat Cousins stole a church so obviously we can add that to Kirk's ingenious plan. Now, who's gonna help me mow the lawn? 🕶

Oh shite....this is freakin' hilarious! Will probably get lots of mileage out of this gem. Thanks moonsister.....
"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
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Reply #186 posted 06/01/17 1:47pm

pricetag

cloveringold85 said:

This one's even better!

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Image result for prince bullshit gif

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You went from what you thought were "arguments" all the way down to this. That was a quick, albeit predictable, decline.

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Reply #187 posted 06/01/17 2:51pm

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laurarichardson said:

Thank you for saying this as it appears to me he was following a supply schudule perhaps if had an RX in the past this was his supply or perhaps he was trying to ween himself and got some input from Dr.S apparently some were cut in half. This just does not sound like some plowing pills down their mouth but maybe trying to ween themselves.

If he was following a supply schedule, he wouldn't have needed to buy from the streets and hide them in other bottles.

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Reply #188 posted 06/01/17 3:09pm

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PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

Thank you for saying this as it appears to me he was following a supply schudule perhaps if had an RX in the past this was his supply or perhaps he was trying to ween himself and got some input from Dr.S apparently some were cut in half. This just does not sound like some plowing pills down their mouth but maybe trying to ween themselves.

If he was following a supply schedule, he wouldn't have needed to buy from the streets and hide them in other bottles.


BOOM.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #189 posted 06/01/17 3:33pm

Mkilpatrick74

Genesia said:



rogifan said:


cloveringold85 said:


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I agree. He was always very thin, but even more so in the last couple of years of his life. And, you are correct; we lose muscle mass as we age and It did not appear that Prince was working out in his later years; not like he did when he was touring and performing 10-20 years ago.




Can we state for a fact he was thinner because of pain medication? I'd be curious to know about this from others who take meds for pain. Is weight loss a typical side effect?


You know what can really wreck one's appetite? Being in pain.



Whooooohhhh Lawd AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH!!!!
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Reply #190 posted 06/01/17 3:41pm

Mkilpatrick74

Genesia said:



PennyPurple said:




laurarichardson said:



Thank you for saying this as it appears to me he was following a supply schudule perhaps if had an RX in the past this was his supply or perhaps he was trying to ween himself and got some input from Dr.S apparently some were cut in half. This just does not sound like some plowing pills down their mouth but maybe trying to ween themselves.



If he was following a supply schedule, he wouldn't have needed to buy from the streets and hide them in other bottles.




BOOM.



Just cause he did not get them directly from an ND doesn't mean we can say he was not following a schedule..perhaps he knows what he previously was prescribed and was taking them based off previous usage. And I hide my meds in different bottles for the simple fact that people have been known to steal prescriptions from.people. And if mine gets stolen i am.out of luck and will be thrown into withdrawals because Dr are no longer allowed to replace under any circumstances. I guess I'll be called an addict because I do that by everyone on here. I don't care tho I just want everyone to understand there are other reasons for storing in alternate containers. Honestly because it's so regulated i lock the majority of mine up. I take out a week at a time. We have had burglary in our neighborhood and some little ole lady had all her meds stolen to include her oxycodone. .
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Reply #191 posted 06/01/17 4:16pm

moonsister

cloveringold85 said:



pricetag said:




cloveringold85 said:



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Look, I don't want or need your pity. I said in my last post to you that I was done with your nonsense! I haven't addressed you, so please stop commenting on my posts. Thank you! rolleyes





...and yet you keep coming back. Of course your response was adressed, albeit indirectly, to me. Again, just like your arguments, this plea feels shady.



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I asked you nicely to stop replying to my posts that were not addressed to YOU. I'm not going to ask again.




This is an open forum though so you could just not read posts that upset you.
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Reply #192 posted 06/01/17 4:19pm

Dini

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Genesia said:


BOOM.

Just cause he did not get them directly from an ND doesn't mean we can say he was not following a schedule..perhaps he knows what he previously was prescribed and was taking them based off previous usage. And I hide my meds in different bottles for the simple fact that people have been known to steal prescriptions from.people. And if mine gets stolen i am.out of luck and will be thrown into withdrawals because Dr are no longer allowed to replace under any circumstances. I guess I'll be called an addict because I do that by everyone on here. I don't care tho I just want everyone to understand there are other reasons for storing in alternate containers. Honestly because it's so regulated i lock the majority of mine up. I take out a week at a time. We have had burglary in our neighborhood and some little ole lady had all her meds stolen to include her oxycodone. .

He was not seeing a doctor, and may very well have had little to no direction on how many pills to use. I highly doubt he was on a schedule. H probably took them as needed, and he kept a stash, or stashes all over the place because he was wealthy and he could afford to keep an ample supply. He was probably afraid of running out too. I imagine there was some comfort and security in knowing that there were always some drugs around.

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Reply #193 posted 06/01/17 4:21pm

Dini

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I asked you nicely to stop replying to my posts that were not addressed to YOU. I'm not going to ask again.

This is an open forum though so you could just not read posts that upset you.

I am beginning to see this as a very inhospitable forum. Too bad.

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Reply #194 posted 06/01/17 4:27pm

Asenath0607

illimack said:

anangellooksdown said:

moonsister said: You think it was synthetic hair, or you know it was synthetic hair? I ask because unless you have any factual evidence to base this on, this is exactly how rumors get started. Careless words.

I saw his last concert in Oakland. Sometimes, when the light hit his hair a certain way, you could see where his hair was thinning. My daughter and I were like, he's gonna be pissed when he realizes this. THAT WAS NOT A WIG. Wigs don't thin in the middle. neutral

He was extremely thin though. I could tell that something was off. I stared at him and told my daughter that she should be recording as much as she could. Something was just.....wrong. I did not suspect that he was at death's door though. sad

On the one hand, what a blessing that you and your daughter got to share the experience of seeing Prince, live and together...on the other hand I'm jealous. I can only share with my daughter videos and his songs. (I'll try my best to get over it because jealousy isn't a good look on me).

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Reply #195 posted 06/01/17 4:37pm

moonsister

Dini said:



moonsister said:


cloveringold85 said:


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I asked you nicely to stop replying to my posts that were not addressed to YOU. I'm not going to ask again.




This is an open forum though so you could just not read posts that upset you.



I am beginning to see this as a very inhospitable forum. Too bad.


I think we all respect the artist Prince but disagree on the meaning of the terms drug addiction and drug dependency, and being able to let him be imperfect enough to have gotten caught up in this opioid epidemic. There is still lots of stereotyping going on about drug addiction. I could accept he was just another victim of the epidemic but Tyka's comments about knowing he was going to die two years ago gives me the creeps and I wonder why people who think Kirk killed Prince aren't also accusing Tyka, since she admits she knew it was going to happen. If we are going to suspect foul play shouldn't we look at the people who are confessing, like Tyka?
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Reply #196 posted 06/01/17 4:42pm

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Mkilpatrick74 said:

Just cause he did not get them directly from an ND doesn't mean we can say he was not following a schedule..perhaps he knows what he previously was prescribed and was taking them based off previous usage. And I hide my meds in different bottles for the simple fact that people have been known to steal prescriptions from.people. And if mine gets stolen i am.out of luck and will be thrown into withdrawals because Dr are no longer allowed to replace under any circumstances. I guess I'll be called an addict because I do that by everyone on here. I don't care tho I just want everyone to understand there are other reasons for storing in alternate containers. Honestly because it's so regulated i lock the majority of mine up. I take out a week at a time. We have had burglary in our neighborhood and some little ole lady had all her meds stolen to include her oxycodone. .

He did not come by those drugs that were stored in other containers, legally.

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Reply #197 posted 06/01/17 4:47pm

precioux

cloveringold85 said:



rogifan said:


precioux said:


Medically speaking-No. Weight loss is not a usual side effect of taking pain meds.

If he was withdrawing and sick, minimal weight loss for a brief amount of time.

Aditionally, someone who is "getting clean" tends to actually put on weight....

So, Imo...there was something else going on entirely in regards to the weight loss. UNLESS he tore up his system over a long period of time as a direct result of taking pain meds. My thoughts lie with the former statement



That's what I thought. I asked the question cuz it seems like people are making a correlation with his weight and using pain meds. I am also of the opinion that something else was causing his weight loss. And I think he was conscious of it because when one of the Twins was at PP (either in 2015 or 2016) photographing Prince he asked her if she thought he looked too skinny.

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Usually, people who are drug addicts do not eat much, or don't eat at all. Their drug is their food of choice. I remember when Dave Gahan was using heroin, he looked like hell. He was always thin, but he looked like a walking skeleton when he was using.






I understand where you are coming from Clover, but you are referencing running up heroin, basically-and the question was specifically in regards to pain pills. With that, I stand by what I've stated from a medical standpoint. In my line of work, I've seen hundreds of opiate addicts, and 98% of them were at healthy weights..some even over weight.
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Reply #198 posted 06/01/17 5:04pm

precioux

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Genesia said:



rogifan said:


cloveringold85 said:


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I agree. He was always very thin, but even more so in the last couple of years of his life. And, you are correct; we lose muscle mass as we age and It did not appear that Prince was working out in his later years; not like he did when he was touring and performing 10-20 years ago.




Can we state for a fact he was thinner because of pain medication? I'd be curious to know about this from others who take meds for pain. Is weight loss a typical side effect?


You know what can really wreck one's appetite? Being in pain.



Whooooohhhh Lawd AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH!!!!




Milpatrick,
Curious...being that you have stated you personally have experience with pain meds on a daily basis under a Dr's care...are you normal weight for your height? I'm not trying to be crass ..I'm trying to show someone such as yourself that is prescribed upwards of 3 pills a day (you stated you get 180 for a 90 day supply) is more than likely at your normal weight, and not 20 pounds underweight. I mean no ill will- I your personal experience may help clarify some questions that we have here in regards to this subject

Precioux
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Reply #199 posted 06/01/17 5:35pm

moonsister

How does withdrawal work?
If you use opiates for an extended period of time, your body becomes desensitized to the drug. This means you’ll need more of it to feel its effects.

Extended use of opiates changes the structure of nerve cells in your brain. These cells will begin to need the drug just to function properly. When you stop using opiates abruptly, your body will react, leading to symptoms of withdrawal.

Opiate withdrawal occurs in two phases. The first phase includes a number of symptoms, such as:

muscle aches
restlessness
anxiety
agitation
tearing eyes
runny nose
excessive sweating
sleeplessness
excessive yawning
low energy
The second phase is marked by:

diarrhea
abdominal cramps
nausea and vomiting
dilated pupils
rapid heartbeat
goose bumps
These initial phases, which can last anywhere from a week to a month, can be followed by long-term withdrawal symptoms. Long-term symptoms are often less physical in nature and may involve emotional or behavioral issues.

Could very well be that Prince was in the earlier stages of withdrawal until the 20th, when he got desperate and went to that quack Dr S, and then made the fatal mistake of taking the illegal drug. Note how long the early stages of withdrawal can last, from a week to a month.
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Reply #200 posted 06/01/17 6:09pm

luvsexy4all

has that youtube clip been reposted?????

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Reply #201 posted 06/01/17 6:11pm

pricetag

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:



pricetag said:




cloveringold85 said:



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Look, I don't want or need your pity. I said in my last post to you that I was done with your nonsense! I haven't addressed you, so please stop commenting on my posts. Thank you! rolleyes





...and yet you keep coming back. Of course your response was adressed, albeit indirectly, to me. Again, just like your arguments, this plea feels shady.



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I asked you nicely to stop replying to my posts that were not addressed to YOU. I'm not going to ask again.




This is an open forum though so you could just not read posts that upset you.

BOOM!
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Reply #202 posted 06/01/17 6:29pm

Dini

moonsister said:

How does withdrawal work? If you use opiates for an extended period of time, your body becomes desensitized to the drug. This means you’ll need more of it to feel its effects. Extended use of opiates changes the structure of nerve cells in your brain. These cells will begin to need the drug just to function properly. When you stop using opiates abruptly, your body will react, leading to symptoms of withdrawal. Opiate withdrawal occurs in two phases. The first phase includes a number of symptoms, such as: muscle aches restlessness anxiety agitation tearing eyes runny nose excessive sweating sleeplessness excessive yawning low energy The second phase is marked by: diarrhea abdominal cramps nausea and vomiting dilated pupils rapid heartbeat goose bumps These initial phases, which can last anywhere from a week to a month, can be followed by long-term withdrawal symptoms. Long-term symptoms are often less physical in nature and may involve emotional or behavioral issues. Could very well be that Prince was in the earlier stages of withdrawal until the 20th, when he got desperate and went to that quack Dr S, and then made the fatal mistake of taking the illegal drug. Note how long the early stages of withdrawal can last, from a week to a month.

Prince was taking illegal drugs, but this time he was unlucky and his illegal drugs contained fentanyl. In the city I live in, two 15 year old girls died from an overdose of Fentanyl. It was mixed with the party drug ecstasy. They had no idea they were taking Fentany. Fentany is a drug that many, even experienced users, are afraid of. You can buy kits that help you identify if your drugs are laced with fentanyl.

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Reply #203 posted 06/01/17 10:00pm

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That's what I thought. I asked the question cuz it seems like people are making a correlation with his weight and using pain meds. I am also of the opinion that something else was causing his weight loss. And I think he was conscious of it because when one of the Twins was at PP (either in 2015 or 2016) photographing Prince he asked her if she thought he looked too skinny.

So then Prince wanted us to see he was skinny but not too skinny?

He could have stayed out of the public eye but still put it out there in photographs and concerts.

Did P want us to know he was ill?

Just saying.

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Reply #204 posted 06/01/17 10:06pm

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cloveringold85 said:

jimmy3121 said:

+1 & Agreed....Plus no man on this earth keeps the same exact hairline as he ages...it is really not a issue as we all age and any man even at 57 is going to show age....then throw up a pic of when he was a teenager saying " see same hairline??" lol unreal...no common sense & to all the kim berry well she said posts- just simply look at pics before the afro or that video pointed out earlier....quite clear & easy to see....this guy named Prince was not Jesus but some on here act as though....just hold on 2 yo' wig & peace & bwild.

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Hey, Smartass! I was showing a pic of when he was younger for comparison! I still have the same hairline that I have had since a child. Some people's hairline receds, but not much. All you have to do is Goolgle Prince's afro/hair and you can see that he still had his own natural hair.

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No common sense? Your comment is so dumb that it doesn't even deserve a response. rolleyes

LOL...ok sure if you say so...Nothing Compares 2U !!!!

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Reply #205 posted 06/01/17 11:38pm

moonsister

jimmy3121 said:



cloveringold85 said:




jimmy3121 said:




+1 & Agreed....Plus no man on this earth keeps the same exact hairline as he ages...it is really not a issue as we all age and any man even at 57 is going to show age....then throw up a pic of when he was a teenager saying " see same hairline??" lol unreal...no common sense & to all the kim berry well she said posts- just simply look at pics before the afro or that video pointed out earlier....quite clear & easy to see....this guy named Prince was not Jesus but some on here act as though....just hold on 2 yo' wig & peace & bwild.



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Hey, Smartass! I was showing a pic of when he was younger for comparison! I still have the same hairline that I have had since a child. Some people's hairline receds, but not much. All you have to do is Goolgle Prince's afro/hair and you can see that he still had his own natural hair.


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No common sense? Your comment is so dumb that it doesn't even deserve a response. rolleyes






LOL...ok sure if you say so...Nothing Compares 2U !!!!



But that last photo isn't even hair, its black fuzz of the polyester kind.
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Reply #206 posted 06/02/17 6:50am

Mkilpatrick74

Dini said:



Mkilpatrick74 said:


Genesia said:



BOOM.



Just cause he did not get them directly from an ND doesn't mean we can say he was not following a schedule..perhaps he knows what he previously was prescribed and was taking them based off previous usage. And I hide my meds in different bottles for the simple fact that people have been known to steal prescriptions from.people. And if mine gets stolen i am.out of luck and will be thrown into withdrawals because Dr are no longer allowed to replace under any circumstances. I guess I'll be called an addict because I do that by everyone on here. I don't care tho I just want everyone to understand there are other reasons for storing in alternate containers. Honestly because it's so regulated i lock the majority of mine up. I take out a week at a time. We have had burglary in our neighborhood and some little ole lady had all her meds stolen to include her oxycodone. .


He was not seeing a doctor, and may very well have had little to no direction on how many pills to use. I highly doubt he was on a schedule. H probably took them as needed, and he kept a stash, or stashes all over the place because he was wealthy and he could afford to keep an ample supply. He was probably afraid of running out too. I imagine there was some comfort and security in knowing that there were always some drugs around.



That's also a possibility. So many unknowns....ya know??
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Reply #207 posted 06/02/17 2:09pm

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moonsister said:

jimmy3121 said:

LOL...ok sure if you say so...Nothing Compares 2U !!!!

But that last photo isn't even hair, its black fuzz of the polyester kind.

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Image result for let it go already

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rolleyes

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #208 posted 06/03/17 2:42pm

cloveringold85

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moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I asked you nicely to stop replying to my posts that were not addressed to YOU. I'm not going to ask again.

This is an open forum though so you could just not read posts that upset you.

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Is this an open forum? Wow, really?! I had no idea! rolleyes

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I'm not sure why you are interjecting yourself into a conversation that you were not orginally a part of, and when you appear to not know what you are talking about. If you cared to look back several posts, where "Pricetag" started insulting me (which was unwarranted), then you would see what had transpired, and why I "politely" asked him/her to stop replying to my posts (above). If you do not understand what transpired, then you are really in no place to tell me or anyone to simply, "just not read posts that upset them". Afterall, it was MY post, so of course I had to read it, right? confused

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But, thanks for your advice anyways. wink

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"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #209 posted 06/03/17 5:17pm

moonsister

cloveringold85 said:



moonsister said:


cloveringold85 said:


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I asked you nicely to stop replying to my posts that were not addressed to YOU. I'm not going to ask again.




This is an open forum though so you could just not read posts that upset you.

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Is this an open forum? Wow, really?! I had no idea! rolleyes


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I'm not sure why you are interjecting yourself into a conversation that you were not orginally a part of, and when you appear to not know what you are talking about. If you cared to look back several posts, where "Pricetag" started insulting me (which was unwarranted), then you would see what had transpired, and why I "politely" asked him/her to stop replying to my posts (above). If you do not understand what transpired, then you are really in no place to tell me or anyone to simply, "just not read posts that upset them". Afterall, it was MY post, so of course I had to read it, right? confused


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But, thanks for your advice anyways. wink


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You're welcome.
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