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Reply #120 posted 05/30/17 3:45pm

cloveringold85

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pricetag said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I've given thoughts to many things since Prince suddenly died. The fact that Prince never overdosed from Fentanyl before suggests to me that he was not a frequent user of the drug. He obviously obtained these street pills and got a bad batch. You honestly think he took that illegal Fentanyl knowing it would kill him? Just curious.

I don't understand this argument. No one takes anything assuming it will kill them! I'm assuming we both agree he did take Fentanyl, right? I would have thought the attempted intervention of an addiction specialist prior to his death would tip you off to the fact that Prince was conscious of its dangers should he not be able to cease using it (in advance of his supposed accidental injestion of a "bad batch" the night before). C'mon. Think it through.

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Think it through? Funny! lol

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But you're saying Prince was a drug addict without fully knowing all the circumstances and facts surrounding his death. confused

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The intervention? We have no proof that Prince even knew that was going down, as he already had an appointment scheduled on April 21st with a Holistic doctor.

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This is the first time we have communicated, so please, don't start jumping to conclusions about what I know or don't know. Kind thanks. biggrin

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Reply #121 posted 05/30/17 3:48pm

cloveringold85

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pricetag said:

pricetag said:

"What we like to think might have happened" ergo "wishful thinking". Do I have to spell things out now?

...and I'm not jumping to any conclusions...I'm suggesting an addiction is just as likely as accidentally injesting a bad batch; I don't see you concede to my position at all, so who's jumping to conclusions? I would add, though, given my description of the drug scenario at his house, along with his hirign of an ADDICTION SPECIALIST, my "addiction" argument has a slight edge.

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Prince hired an addiction specialist? This is news to me. Do you have a source of information? Thanks!

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Reply #122 posted 05/30/17 3:52pm

moonsister

cloveringold85 said:



rogifan said:


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I think it was a synthetic hair wig. 💂🏼 That's WTF.

And you're basing this on?

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That was his REAL hair, folks!! We've had this debate before.


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You can see the natural hairline. (see below) -- do you see his natural hairline? It's IDENTICAL!!


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http://www.voguewigs.com/...fgodfY0LmQ

So not only did he not lose hair, his hair got thicker??
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Reply #123 posted 05/30/17 3:52pm

pricetag

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

This reads like you're trying to convince yourself. I never said pills were lying around on their own. I never went through an inventory of each room (studio or otherwise). I never gave an exact amount (although your reference to what other people say as 90-day batches feels like it needs more research). I never said Prince had a pill factory at Paisley (is this the iron-clad template for being an addict). I never said he hid pills (although you make a good case for it when you say the securuty cameras were off). Just who, exactly, are you arguing with?

I am telling you what is not in the search warrant and what is. I am being factual I am not arguing. I would think some raving druggie would do a better job of hiding his stash in a 65 sq foot facilty especially since the entire free world saw the news reports about Moline. You realize the police could have come storming in at anytime after Moline with a search warrant for drugs. Yet they were easily found and Prince the raving the drug addict had time to throw a party, go shopping, and out to a jazz club. Oh he also appears to have had time to work on some music. Does any of this make sense for a person who after Narcan shots should have been as sick as a dog from withdrawals? Not arguments just questions.

Why are you responding to my posts? None of what I've said pertains to any of this....

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Reply #124 posted 05/30/17 3:52pm

cloveringold85

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laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

This reads like you're trying to convince yourself. I never said pills were lying around on their own. I never went through an inventory of each room (studio or otherwise). I never gave an exact amount (although your reference to what other people say as 90-day batches feels like it needs more research). I never said Prince had a pill factory at Paisley (is this the iron-clad template for being an addict). I never said he hid pills (although you make a good case for it when you say the securuty cameras were off). Just who, exactly, are you arguing with?

I am telling you what is not in the search warrant and what is. I am being factual I am not arguing. I would think some raving druggie would do a better job of hiding his stash in a 65 sq foot facilty especially since the entire free world saw the news reports about Moline. You realize the police could have come storming in at anytime after Moline with a search warrant for drugs. Yet they were easily found and Prince the raving the drug addict had time to throw a party, go shopping, and out to a jazz club. Oh he also appears to have had time to work on some music. Does any of this make sense for a person who after Narcan shots should have been as sick as a dog from withdrawals? Not arguments just questions.

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Laura, and don't forget, Prince went for a bike ride and was at the Wrecka Stow! nod

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Memba he tweeted that "wrecka stow" dress on April 17th. He was chillin and didn't fit the profile of some drug-head as some might suggest. smoker

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Reply #125 posted 05/30/17 3:55pm

pricetag

cloveringold85 said:

pricetag said:

...and I'm not jumping to any conclusions...I'm suggesting an addiction is just as likely as accidentally injesting a bad batch; I don't see you concede to my position at all, so who's jumping to conclusions? I would add, though, given my description of the drug scenario at his house, along with his hirign of an ADDICTION SPECIALIST, my "addiction" argument has a slight edge.

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Prince hired an addiction specialist? This is news to me. Do you have a source of information? Thanks!

Oh, sorry, you're right. The guy who made the 911 call was Jack the Ripper's best friend.

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Reply #126 posted 05/30/17 3:59pm

cloveringold85

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moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

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That was his REAL hair, folks!! We've had this debate before.

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You can see the natural hairline. (see below) -- do you see his natural hairline? It's IDENTICAL!!

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Image result for prince afro

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Image result for prince afro

http://www.voguewigs.com/...fgodfY0LmQ So not only did he not lose hair, his hair got thicker?? [url]

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Maybe you should ask Kim Berry who was Prince's hairstylist for 28-years.

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Reply #127 posted 05/30/17 4:03pm

pricetag

cloveringold85 said:

pricetag said:

I don't understand this argument. No one takes anything assuming it will kill them! I'm assuming we both agree he did take Fentanyl, right? I would have thought the attempted intervention of an addiction specialist prior to his death would tip you off to the fact that Prince was conscious of its dangers should he not be able to cease using it (in advance of his supposed accidental injestion of a "bad batch" the night before). C'mon. Think it through.

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Think it through? Funny! lol

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But you're saying Prince was a drug addict without fully knowing all the circumstances and facts surrounding his death. confused

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The intervention? We have no proof that Prince even knew that was going down, as he already had an appointment scheduled on April 21st with a Holistic doctor.

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This is the first time we have communicated, so please, don't start jumping to conclusions about what I know or don't know. Kind thanks. biggrin

You're tiring me out. I can't keep repeating myself. One last time, then I'll just have to hope it goes through. I'm suggesting that Prince's addiction to painkillers was just as likely as the death by misadventure theory. Why is this so hard to accept/ understand unless you dodn't want it to be the case? We know that he reached out to an addiction specialist? And if he didn't, someone close sure as hell felt he needed it. Same thing in my book. Why do you refuse to acknowldege or accept this? Also, Holistic doctor? That choice of word tells me a lot about you.

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Reply #128 posted 05/30/17 4:30pm

cloveringold85

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pricetag said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Think it through? Funny! lol

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But you're saying Prince was a drug addict without fully knowing all the circumstances and facts surrounding his death. confused

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The intervention? We have no proof that Prince even knew that was going down, as he already had an appointment scheduled on April 21st with a Holistic doctor.

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This is the first time we have communicated, so please, don't start jumping to conclusions about what I know or don't know. Kind thanks. biggrin

You're tiring me out. I can't keep repeating myself. One last time, then I'll just have to hope it goes through. I'm suggesting that Prince's addiction to painkillers was just as likely as the death by misadventure theory. Why is this so hard to accept/ understand unless you dodn't want it to be the case? We know that he reached out to an addiction specialist? And if he didn't, someone close sure as hell felt he needed it. Same thing in my book. Why do you refuse to acknowldege or accept this? Also, Holistic doctor? That choice of word tells me a lot about you.

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Funny how you say I'm tiring you out. It's called communication, and message boards are surely not the best way to communicate, but this is all we have. You don't have to be here, if you don't want to be. lol

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I'm just giving my own opinions based on what I know and I don't expect you to agree with them.

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No disrespect, but don't you really seem to be in-tune with what's been going on with this case. Prince's death is still an active homicide case, and people are still being investigated.

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It's obvious someone from Prince's crew contacted Dr. K (addiction specialist). I think it was KJ and a few other's without Prince's knowledge. It's been said that Prince had knowledge of the so-called intervention, but we have no way of knowing that because he is no longer with us to tell us the truth about how it went down.

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What's with the Holistic doctor comment? It's a fact that Prince had an appointment that day with a Holistic doctor. You didn't know about this?

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So, what does it exactly tell you about ME? I really don't appreciate your rudeness. rolleyes

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The following morning, Thursday April 21, staffers became concerned when he reportedly missed a holistic medicine appointment. They headed to Paisley to look for Prince and at around 9.43am, three people discovered him in the elevator on the first-level of the compound.

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https://www.theguardian.c...h-percocet

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Reply #129 posted 05/30/17 5:16pm

pricetag

cloveringold85 said:

pricetag said:

You're tiring me out. I can't keep repeating myself. One last time, then I'll just have to hope it goes through. I'm suggesting that Prince's addiction to painkillers was just as likely as the death by misadventure theory. Why is this so hard to accept/ understand unless you dodn't want it to be the case? We know that he reached out to an addiction specialist? And if he didn't, someone close sure as hell felt he needed it. Same thing in my book. Why do you refuse to acknowldege or accept this? Also, Holistic doctor? That choice of word tells me a lot about you.

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Funny how you say I'm tiring you out. It's called communication, and message boards are surely not the best way to communicate, but this is all we have. You don't have to be here, if you don't want to be. lol

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I'm just giving my own opinions based on what I know and I don't expect you to agree with them.

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No disrespect, but don't you really seem to be in-tune with what's been going on with this case. Prince's death is still an active homicide case, and people are still being investigated.

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It's obvious someone from Prince's crew contacted Dr. K (addiction specialist). I think it was KJ and a few other's without Prince's knowledge. It's been said that Prince had knowledge of the so-called intervention, but we have no way of knowing that because he is no longer with us to tell us the truth about how it went down.

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What's with the Holistic doctor comment? It's a fact that Prince had an appointment that day with a Holistic doctor. You didn't know about this?

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So, what does it exactly tell you about ME? I really don't appreciate your rudeness. rolleyes

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The following morning, Thursday April 21, staffers became concerned when he reportedly missed a holistic medicine appointment. They headed to Paisley to look for Prince and at around 9.43am, three people discovered him in the elevator on the first-level of the compound.

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https://www.theguardian.c...h-percocet

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edit: link holistic doctor prince

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I have to move on. We're talking at crossed-purposes. You refuse to address any of my points; and you seem to think there's no connection between needing an addiction specialist and having an addiction. If you don't see this then you don't see this. I get it, though, people prefer a conspiracy theory rather than no theory at all. Occam's Razor. Look it up.

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Reply #130 posted 05/30/17 5:18pm

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Guys
if prince wore a wig it would have been mentioned on his death certificate.

If the deceased has any kind of prosthetics or attachments, piercings, identifying features to the body, scars, tattoos etc they are listed.

There is No mention of a wig or toupee on his head. Only scars on his knee and hip.
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Reply #131 posted 05/30/17 5:53pm

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sfinky1 said:

Guys
if prince wore a wig it would have been mentioned on his death certificate.

If the deceased has any kind of prosthetics or attachments, piercings, identifying features to the body, scars, tattoos etc they are listed.

There is No mention of a wig or toupee on his head. Only scars on his knee and hip.

He had a cap on he didn't need a wig. Nobody is saying he was bald, just that he wore a wig or a cap in public. And I will not argue about whether or not the wig belonged to him, as in yes, it was Prince's (phony) hair, no one else's, it was Prince's.
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Reply #132 posted 05/30/17 5:56pm

cloveringold85

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pricetag said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Funny how you say I'm tiring you out. It's called communication, and message boards are surely not the best way to communicate, but this is all we have. You don't have to be here, if you don't want to be. lol

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I'm just giving my own opinions based on what I know and I don't expect you to agree with them.

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No disrespect, but don't you really seem to be in-tune with what's been going on with this case. Prince's death is still an active homicide case, and people are still being investigated.

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It's obvious someone from Prince's crew contacted Dr. K (addiction specialist). I think it was KJ and a few other's without Prince's knowledge. It's been said that Prince had knowledge of the so-called intervention, but we have no way of knowing that because he is no longer with us to tell us the truth about how it went down.

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What's with the Holistic doctor comment? It's a fact that Prince had an appointment that day with a Holistic doctor. You didn't know about this?

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So, what does it exactly tell you about ME? I really don't appreciate your rudeness. rolleyes

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The following morning, Thursday April 21, staffers became concerned when he reportedly missed a holistic medicine appointment. They headed to Paisley to look for Prince and at around 9.43am, three people discovered him in the elevator on the first-level of the compound.

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https://www.theguardian.c...h-percocet

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edit: link holistic doctor prince

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[Edited 5/30/17 16:36pm]

I have to move on. We're talking at crossed-purposes. You refuse to address any of my points; and you seem to think there's no connection between needing an addiction specialist and having an addiction. If you don't see this then you don't see this. I get it, though, people prefer a conspiracy theory rather than no theory at all. Occam's Razor. Look it up.

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What are you talking about??!! I refuse to address any of your points? WHERE??

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Where did I say that there is no connection between an addiction and needing an addiction specialist? WTF??!! eek

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Now, you are just putting words in my mouth that I never said, and trying to deflect.

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I'm done with your nonsense! Good-bye!! disbelief

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Reply #133 posted 05/30/17 6:01pm

cloveringold85

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sfinky1 said:

Guys if prince wore a wig it would have been mentioned on his death certificate. If the deceased has any kind of prosthetics or attachments, piercings, identifying features to the body, scars, tattoos etc they are listed. There is No mention of a wig or toupee on his head. Only scars on his knee and hip.

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Thank you!! thumbs up!

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Some people just refuse to believe that Prince wore his own, natural, kinky hair!

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As you recall, on the autopsy of Whitney Houston, it was stated that she had a wig, but I think they phrased it differently like a "hair piece" or enchancement, or something to that effect.

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Reply #134 posted 05/30/17 6:29pm

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pricetag said:



cloveringold85 said:




pricetag said:



You're tiring me out. I can't keep repeating myself. One last time, then I'll just have to hope it goes through. I'm suggesting that Prince's addiction to painkillers was just as likely as the death by misadventure theory. Why is this so hard to accept/ understand unless you dodn't want it to be the case? We know that he reached out to an addiction specialist? And if he didn't, someone close sure as hell felt he needed it. Same thing in my book. Why do you refuse to acknowldege or accept this? Also, Holistic doctor? That choice of word tells me a lot about you.



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Funny how you say I'm tiring you out. It's called communication, and message boards are surely not the best way to communicate, but this is all we have. You don't have to be here, if you don't want to be. lol


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I'm just giving my own opinions based on what I know and I don't expect you to agree with them.


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No disrespect, but don't you really seem to be in-tune with what's been going on with this case. Prince's death is still an active homicide case, and people are still being investigated.


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It's obvious someone from Prince's crew contacted Dr. K (addiction specialist). I think it was KJ and a few other's without Prince's knowledge. It's been said that Prince had knowledge of the so-called intervention, but we have no way of knowing that because he is no longer with us to tell us the truth about how it went down.


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What's with the Holistic doctor comment? It's a fact that Prince had an appointment that day with a Holistic doctor. You didn't know about this?


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So, what does it exactly tell you about ME? I really don't appreciate your rudeness. rolleyes



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The following morning, Thursday April 21, staffers became concerned when he reportedly missed a holistic medicine appointment. They headed to Paisley to look for Prince and at around 9.43am, three people discovered him in the elevator on the first-level of the compound.


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https://www.theguardian.c...h-percocet


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edit: link holistic doctor prince


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[Edited 5/30/17 16:36pm]



I have to move on. We're talking at crossed-purposes. You refuse to address any of my points; and you seem to think there's no connection between needing an addiction specialist and having an addiction. If you don't see this then you don't see this. I get it, though, people prefer a conspiracy theory rather than no theory at all. Occam's Razor. Look it up.


--He did not have an addiction specialist. Andrew is not even a doctor and he was not a patient if Dr. K. Dr. S has no background in addiction mgnt at all. He was suppose to see a Dr. for holistic healing once again opening the possibility of other health issues or severe joint pain. Prince must have felt that holistic Dr appointment was more important than his so called addiction issues since he was to see that Doctor first more holes in drug addition being his only problem.
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Reply #135 posted 05/30/17 7:33pm

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:



cloveringold85 said:




pricetag said:



You're tiring me out. I can't keep repeating myself. One last time, then I'll just have to hope it goes through. I'm suggesting that Prince's addiction to painkillers was just as likely as the death by misadventure theory. Why is this so hard to accept/ understand unless you dodn't want it to be the case? We know that he reached out to an addiction specialist? And if he didn't, someone close sure as hell felt he needed it. Same thing in my book. Why do you refuse to acknowldege or accept this? Also, Holistic doctor? That choice of word tells me a lot about you.



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Funny how you say I'm tiring you out. It's called communication, and message boards are surely not the best way to communicate, but this is all we have. You don't have to be here, if you don't want to be. lol


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I'm just giving my own opinions based on what I know and I don't expect you to agree with them.


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No disrespect, but don't you really seem to be in-tune with what's been going on with this case. Prince's death is still an active homicide case, and people are still being investigated.


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It's obvious someone from Prince's crew contacted Dr. K (addiction specialist). I think it was KJ and a few other's without Prince's knowledge. It's been said that Prince had knowledge of the so-called intervention, but we have no way of knowing that because he is no longer with us to tell us the truth about how it went down.


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What's with the Holistic doctor comment? It's a fact that Prince had an appointment that day with a Holistic doctor. You didn't know about this?


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So, what does it exactly tell you about ME? I really don't appreciate your rudeness. rolleyes



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The following morning, Thursday April 21, staffers became concerned when he reportedly missed a holistic medicine appointment. They headed to Paisley to look for Prince and at around 9.43am, three people discovered him in the elevator on the first-level of the compound.


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https://www.theguardian.c...h-percocet


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edit: link holistic doctor prince


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[Edited 5/30/17 16:36pm]



I have to move on. We're talking at crossed-purposes. You refuse to address any of my points; and you seem to think there's no connection between needing an addiction specialist and having an addiction. If you don't see this then you don't see this. I get it, though, people prefer a conspiracy theory rather than no theory at all. Occam's Razor. Look it up.


--He did not have an addiction specialist. Andrew is not even a doctor and he was not a patient if Dr. K. Dr. S has no background in addiction mgnt at all. He was suppose to see a Dr. for holistic healing once again opening the possibility of other health issues or severe joint pain. Prince must have felt that holistic Dr appointment was more important than his so called addiction issues since he was to see that Doctor first more holes in drug addition being his only problem.

Or maybe he was looking for treatment outside of painkillers? I think our society is too accepting of painkillers as legitimate medical treatment. Like today when the news came out that Tiger Woods' DUI was related to painkillers not alcohol. So many people on social media went from 'for shame' to 'he did nothing wrong'. Even though it's entirely possible he was in as bad or worse shape than if he had been drinking. If there was more of a stigma around painkillers perhaps doctors would be more reluctant to prescribe them and people would be more reluctant to take them.
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Reply #136 posted 05/30/17 7:54pm

disch

The "holistic doctor appointment" thing was something that got circulated before certain facts, such as his death from fentanyl, the involvement of an addiction specialist (Dr K), or his OD on the plane, became public. There's no mention in the warrants, for example, of any "holistic doctor," and we know that it's not true that the reason his that crew was at Paisley that morning was because they were concerned that P missed his "holistic doctor" appointment.

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I think the "holistic doctor" was some BS spin that Prince's camp tried to put out there early on.

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The following morning, Thursday April 21, staffers became concerned when he reportedly missed a holistic medicine appointment. They headed to Paisley to look for Prince and at around 9.43am, three people discovered him in the elevator on the first-level of the compound.

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https://www.theguardian.c...h-percocet

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Reply #137 posted 05/30/17 7:59pm

klick2me

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cloveringold85 said:



moonsister said:


cloveringold85 said:


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That was his REAL hair, folks!! We've had this debate before.


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You can see the natural hairline. (see below) -- do you see his natural hairline? It's IDENTICAL!!


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Image result for prince afro


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Image result for prince afro




http://www.voguewigs.com/...fgodfY0LmQ So not only did he not lose hair, his hair got thicker?? [url]

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Maybe you should ask Kim Berry who was Prince's hairstylist for 28-years.



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During the Oracle performance you could visibly see that P suffered from hair loss. A natural occurrence no doubt. The concert is circulating for you to see.
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Reply #138 posted 05/30/17 9:21pm

pricetag

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

I have to move on. We're talking at crossed-purposes. You refuse to address any of my points; and you seem to think there's no connection between needing an addiction specialist and having an addiction. If you don't see this then you don't see this. I get it, though, people prefer a conspiracy theory rather than no theory at all. Occam's Razor. Look it up.

--He did not have an addiction specialist. Andrew is not even a doctor and he was not a patient if Dr. K. Dr. S has no background in addiction mgnt at all. He was suppose to see a Dr. for holistic healing once again opening the possibility of other health issues or severe joint pain. Prince must have felt that holistic Dr appointment was more important than his so called addiction issues since he was to see that Doctor first more holes in drug addition being his only problem.

It depresses me how your mind works. Cherry-pricking certain "facts" to suit your narrative. You've been in the game long enough to know how Prince-world worked. You think he's gonna have an addiction specialist on the books? Of course Andrew Kornfeld is not a doctor. That's EXACTLY why he was there, with a starter dose of buprenorphine, a drug used to treat opiate addiction.

As for your "holistic" doctor, that's been debunked as further Paisly obfuscation. C'mon you know better, I know you do...

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Reply #139 posted 05/31/17 12:54am

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moonsister said:

sfinky1 said:
Guys if prince wore a wig it would have been mentioned on his death certificate. If the deceased has any kind of prosthetics or attachments, piercings, identifying features to the body, scars, tattoos etc they are listed. There is No mention of a wig or toupee on his head. Only scars on his knee and hip.
He had a cap on he didn't need a wig. Nobody is saying he was bald, just that he wore a wig or a cap in public. And I will not argue about whether or not the wig belonged to him, as in yes, it was Prince's (phony) hair, no one else's, it was Prince's.


Again, this is conjecture. Nothing more.

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Reply #140 posted 05/31/17 3:38am

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pricetag said:



laurarichardson said:


pricetag said:


I have to move on. We're talking at crossed-purposes. You refuse to address any of my points; and you seem to think there's no connection between needing an addiction specialist and having an addiction. If you don't see this then you don't see this. I get it, though, people prefer a conspiracy theory rather than no theory at all. Occam's Razor. Look it up.



--He did not have an addiction specialist. Andrew is not even a doctor and he was not a patient if Dr. K. Dr. S has no background in addiction mgnt at all. He was suppose to see a Dr. for holistic healing once again opening the possibility of other health issues or severe joint pain. Prince must have felt that holistic Dr appointment was more important than his so called addiction issues since he was to see that Doctor first more holes in drug addition being his only problem.


It depresses me how your mind works. Cherry-pricking certain "facts" to suit your narrative. You've been in the game long enough to know how Prince-world worked. You think he's gonna have an addiction specialist on the books? Of course Andrew Kornfeld is not a doctor. That's EXACTLY why he was there, with a starter dose of buprenorphine, a drug used to treat opiate addiction.



As for your "holistic" doctor, that's been debunked as further Paisly obfuscation. C'mon you know better, I know you do...




I do not know what the Paisley obfuscation has to do with the media reports that you have been provided with that state he had an appointment with a holistic Doctor. If he was planning to go with Andrew would his stay in California not have been in the books. Kind of line the 65k in medical expense that appeared on his inventory sheet you know a written record of medical treatment for some medical issue. The things I am pointing out are facts. What depresses me us people on this board who continue to ignore facts and would like for everyone to join them in La La land.
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Reply #141 posted 05/31/17 4:28am

zenarose

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:



laurarichardson said:


pricetag said:


I have to move on. We're talking at crossed-purposes. You refuse to address any of my points; and you seem to think there's no connection between needing an addiction specialist and having an addiction. If you don't see this then you don't see this. I get it, though, people prefer a conspiracy theory rather than no theory at all. Occam's Razor. Look it up.



--He did not have an addiction specialist. Andrew is not even a doctor and he was not a patient if Dr. K. Dr. S has no background in addiction mgnt at all. He was suppose to see a Dr. for holistic healing once again opening the possibility of other health issues or severe joint pain. Prince must have felt that holistic Dr appointment was more important than his so called addiction issues since he was to see that Doctor first more holes in drug addition being his only problem.


It depresses me how your mind works. Cherry-pricking certain "facts" to suit your narrative. You've been in the game long enough to know how Prince-world worked. You think he's gonna have an addiction specialist on the books? Of course Andrew Kornfeld is not a doctor. That's EXACTLY why he was there, with a starter dose of buprenorphine, a drug used to treat opiate addiction.



As for your "holistic" doctor, that's been debunked as further Paisly obfuscation. C'mon you know better, I know you do...




I do not know what the Paisley obfuscation has to do with the media reports that you have been provided with that state he had an appointment with a holistic Doctor. If he was planning to go with Andrew would his stay in California not have been in the books. Kind of line the 65k in medical expense that appeared on his inventory sheet you know a written record of medical treatment for some medical issue. The things I am pointing out are facts. What depresses me us people on this board who continue to ignore facts and would like for everyone to join them in La La land.



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Reply #142 posted 05/31/17 9:36am

pricetag

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

It depresses me how your mind works. Cherry-pricking certain "facts" to suit your narrative. You've been in the game long enough to know how Prince-world worked. You think he's gonna have an addiction specialist on the books? Of course Andrew Kornfeld is not a doctor. That's EXACTLY why he was there, with a starter dose of buprenorphine, a drug used to treat opiate addiction.

As for your "holistic" doctor, that's been debunked as further Paisly obfuscation. C'mon you know better, I know you do...

I do not know what the Paisley obfuscation has to do with the media reports that you have been provided with that state he had an appointment with a holistic Doctor. If he was planning to go with Andrew would his stay in California not have been in the books. Kind of line the 65k in medical expense that appeared on his inventory sheet you know a written record of medical treatment for some medical issue. The things I am pointing out are facts. What depresses me us people on this board who continue to ignore facts and would like for everyone to join them in La La land.

This is poorly written and expressed, and full of non-sequitors. You follow up lines like "treatment for some medical issue" with "the things I am pointing out are facts". Pure garbage. I know you know better....

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Reply #143 posted 05/31/17 10:12am

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pricetag said:

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said: I do not know what the Paisley obfuscation has to do with the media reports that you have been provided with that state he had an appointment with a holistic Doctor. If he was planning to go with Andrew would his stay in California not have been in the books. Kind of line the 65k in medical expense that appeared on his inventory sheet you know a written record of medical treatment for some medical issue. The things I am pointing out are facts. What depresses me us people on this board who continue to ignore facts and would like for everyone to join them in La La land.

This is poorly written and expressed, and full of non-sequitors. You follow up lines like "treatment for some medical issue" with "the things I am pointing out are facts". Pure garbage. I know you know better....

These facts are the basis for why many of us do not believe addiction was the only problem he was having if at all. It is more possible that he was dependent on these meds and wanted to withdraw from them in a cold turkey manner for medical reasons ( some medical issue making it important that he detox immediatly thus putting him into withdrawal which could have been going on for months )

He certainly had the means to obtain the suxbone and seek better quality outpatient care then Dr. S. ( who has no background in addiction or pain management.)

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See below the facts and I will not provide links. You need to use the search engine.

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Prince had 65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet. ( Do people usually have that type of expense for buying illegal drugs on a form that is going to the IRS)

You were provided a report from the media concerning his trip to a holistic doctor.
( Do people who are suppose to be so sick from withdrawals that should not be able to leave the bathroom hustle off to holistic healears if drug use is their main issue. )

Andrew is not an addiction specialist and he was not a patient of Dr. K's at all. We still have no proof other than hearsay that Prince knew Andrew was coming much less bringing meds with him.

Prince was not worried about having a written record of medical treatment since he did see Dr. K and did actually have Rxs written for him by Dr. K. He was not hiding or in incognito about seeing this doctor. He even went to the Walgreens himself very strange behaivor for someone who was hiding a secret addiction.


Remember medical records are written records of what is going on. We do not have them so we do not know all of what was going on with Prince's health.

There are a lot of other clues about his health that are not factual but certainly seem odd that I will not list.

j


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Reply #144 posted 05/31/17 1:22pm

PennyPurple

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laurarichardson said:

These facts are the basis for why many of us do not believe addiction was the only problem he was having if at all. It is more possible that he was dependent on these meds and wanted to withdraw from them in a cold turkey manner for medical reasons ( some medical issue making it important that he detox immediatly thus putting him into withdrawal which could have been going on for months )

He certainly had the means to obtain the suxbone and seek better quality outpatient care then Dr. S. ( who has no background in addiction or pain management.)

---

See below the facts and I will not provide links. You need to use the search engine.

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Prince had 65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet. ( Do people usually have that type of expense for buying illegal drugs on a form that is going to the IRS)

You were provided a report from the media concerning his trip to a holistic doctor.
( Do people who are suppose to be so sick from withdrawals that should not be able to leave the bathroom hustle off to holistic healears if drug use is their main issue. )

Andrew is not an addiction specialist and he was not a patient of Dr. K's at all. We still have no proof other than hearsay that Prince knew Andrew was coming much less bringing meds with him.

Prince was not worried about having a written record of medical treatment since he did see Dr. K and did actually have Rxs written for him by Dr. K. He was not hiding or in incognito about seeing this doctor. He even went to the Walgreens himself very strange behaivor for someone who was hiding a secret addiction.


Remember medical records are written records of what is going on. We do not have them so we do not know all of what was going on with Prince's health.

There are a lot of other clues about his health that are not factual but certainly seem odd that I will not list.

j


Why not? You list everything else that aren't facts...

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Reply #145 posted 05/31/17 1:33pm

pricetag

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

These facts are the basis for why many of us do not believe addiction was the only problem he was having if at all. It is more possible that he was dependent on these meds and wanted to withdraw from them in a cold turkey manner for medical reasons ( some medical issue making it important that he detox immediatly thus putting him into withdrawal which could have been going on for months )

He certainly had the means to obtain the suxbone and seek better quality outpatient care then Dr. S. ( who has no background in addiction or pain management.)

---

See below the facts and I will not provide links. You need to use the search engine.

-----

Prince had 65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet. ( Do people usually have that type of expense for buying illegal drugs on a form that is going to the IRS)

You were provided a report from the media concerning his trip to a holistic doctor.
( Do people who are suppose to be so sick from withdrawals that should not be able to leave the bathroom hustle off to holistic healears if drug use is their main issue. )

Andrew is not an addiction specialist and he was not a patient of Dr. K's at all. We still have no proof other than hearsay that Prince knew Andrew was coming much less bringing meds with him.

Prince was not worried about having a written record of medical treatment since he did see Dr. K and did actually have Rxs written for him by Dr. K. He was not hiding or in incognito about seeing this doctor. He even went to the Walgreens himself very strange behaivor for someone who was hiding a secret addiction.


Remember medical records are written records of what is going on. We do not have them so we do not know all of what was going on with Prince's health.

There are a lot of other clues about his health that are not factual but certainly seem odd that I will not list.

j


Why not? You list everything else that aren't facts...

Yeah, I've lost the will to try and follow her argument. She says, I think, that addiction might, or might not, be the only problem based on some other issue he may, or may not, be having. Of course, the "facts" she lists to support this are all still conjecture on her part. I have the awful feeling she doesn't understand this. So it's a lost cause...

[Edited 5/31/17 13:44pm]

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Reply #146 posted 05/31/17 2:00pm

laurarichardso
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PennyPurple said:



laurarichardson said:







These facts are the basis for why many of us do not believe addiction was the only problem he was having if at all. It is more possible that he was dependent on these meds and wanted to withdraw from them in a cold turkey manner for medical reasons ( some medical issue making it important that he detox immediatly thus putting him into withdrawal which could have been going on for months )



He certainly had the means to obtain the suxbone and seek better quality outpatient care then Dr. S. ( who has no background in addiction or pain management.)


---


See below the facts and I will not provide links. You need to use the search engine.


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Prince had 65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet. ( Do people usually have that type of expense for buying illegal drugs on a form that is going to the IRS)



You were provided a report from the media concerning his trip to a holistic doctor.
( Do people who are suppose to be so sick from withdrawals that should not be able to leave the bathroom hustle off to holistic healears if drug use is their main issue. )



Andrew is not an addiction specialist and he was not a patient of Dr. K's at all. We still have no proof other than hearsay that Prince knew Andrew was coming much less bringing meds with him.



Prince was not worried about having a written record of medical treatment since he did see Dr. K and did actually have Rxs written for him by Dr. K. He was not hiding or in incognito about seeing this doctor. He even went to the Walgreens himself very strange behaivor for someone who was hiding a secret addiction.





Remember medical records are written records of what is going on. We do not have them so we do not know all of what was going on with Prince's health.




There are a lot of other clues about his health that are not factual but certainly seem odd that I will not list.


j






Why not? You list everything else that aren't facts...


Tell me what is not a fact?
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Reply #147 posted 05/31/17 2:10pm

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pricetag said:

PennyPurple said:

Why not? You list everything else that aren't facts...

Yeah, I've lost the will to try and follow her argument. She says, I think, that addiction might, or might not, be the only problem based on some other issue he may, or may not, be having. Of course, the "facts" she lists to support this are all still conjecture on her part. I have the awful feeling she doesn't understand this. So it's a lost cause...

[Edited 5/31/17 13:44pm]

Yep, you are right.

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Reply #148 posted 05/31/17 4:27pm

laurarichardso
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PennyPurple said:



pricetag said:




PennyPurple said:



Why not? You list everything else that aren't facts...




Yeah, I've lost the will to try and follow her argument. She says, I think, that addiction might, or might not, be the only problem based on some other issue he may, or may not, be having. Of course, the "facts" she lists to support this are all still conjecture on her part. I have the awful feeling she doesn't understand this. So it's a lost cause...


[Edited 5/31/17 13:44pm]



Yep, you are right.


I hope you get help
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Reply #149 posted 05/31/17 5:02pm

cloveringold85

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laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

This is poorly written and expressed, and full of non-sequitors. You follow up lines like "treatment for some medical issue" with "the things I am pointing out are facts". Pure garbage. I know you know better....

These facts are the basis for why many of us do not believe addiction was the only problem he was having if at all. It is more possible that he was dependent on these meds and wanted to withdraw from them in a cold turkey manner for medical reasons ( some medical issue making it important that he detox immediatly thus putting him into withdrawal which could have been going on for months )

He certainly had the means to obtain the suxbone and seek better quality outpatient care then Dr. S. ( who has no background in addiction or pain management.)

---

See below the facts and I will not provide links. You need to use the search engine.

-----

Prince had 65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet. ( Do people usually have that type of expense for buying illegal drugs on a form that is going to the IRS)

You were provided a report from the media concerning his trip to a holistic doctor.
( Do people who are suppose to be so sick from withdrawals that should not be able to leave the bathroom hustle off to holistic healears if drug use is their main issue. )

Andrew is not an addiction specialist and he was not a patient of Dr. K's at all. We still have no proof other than hearsay that Prince knew Andrew was coming much less bringing meds with him.

Prince was not worried about having a written record of medical treatment since he did see Dr. K and did actually have Rxs written for him by Dr. K. He was not hiding or in incognito about seeing this doctor. He even went to the Walgreens himself very strange behaivor for someone who was hiding a secret addiction.


Remember medical records are written records of what is going on. We do not have them so we do not know all of what was going on with Prince's health.

There are a lot of other clues about his health that are not factual but certainly seem odd that I will not list.

j


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yeahthat

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Thanks for spelling it out, Laura. I have to hand it to you. You certainly have more patience than I do when dealing with people's bullshit. thumbs up!

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