CocoRock said:

TrivialPursuit said:

He was very, very thin, more than I've ever seen him. He was also really pale. His eyes weren't as sparkly in photos that we're used to seeing otherwise. He was struggling with those fucking pills, for sure.

It's hard for me to listen to these Atlanta shows. It's the last one and the finality of that is a bit too much for even me. But the moments I have listened to had me surprised as just how clear and crisp his voice was in the show. He never slurred words.

People hooked on a drug that has to perform or be up and ready (like a celebrity or public figure) know how to manipulate the drug (ie: abuse it by using it other than how it's prescribed) in order to function while not necessarily appearing to be high from it. (And by high I mean altered by a drug in their system, not eyes rolling around or tweaking or acting crazy.) Prince knew, having been on them for a minute, how to use the drug in order to function and operate as 'normal' as he could. It's probably why no one ever saw anything else. The dude was good at it, as are a lot of people who suffer from an addiction. Opioids and other narcotics are addictive by nature. He's no different when taking them. But again, he knew how to take just enough to work, and put on a good show.

Frankly I was also surprised at how great Prince's voice stayed over the years. People's voices tend to lower with age, and artists will even perform songs in a lower key in concerts. They'll sometimes do that to save their voice from singing higher notes night after night. Prince never did that, to my knowledge. He was so spot on with his falsetto, etc.

But as far as his appearance, he moved okay, but his body was definitely showing the effects of addiction, and not eating as well.

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WTF does this even mean? How was his body showing signs THE effects of addiction? This is the third (fourth) time somebody has asked you.

He looked great

sfinky1 said:

Maybe one of the reasons he chose to perform by himself was to keep other healthy people away from him while he performed so his audience couldn't see that his legs were thinner than everyone else's arms, that his skin was sallow and dry compared with others, and his hair wasn't real hair.

Yes I know how strong he must have been to keep performing when he was ill, and if he did it even a scintilla to support his lazy family then shame on them, and I hope they never see a dime of his hard earned money, they don't deserve it.

moonsister said:

laytonian said:

. Give it a rest. WE are the ones who've been keeping up and have read warrants, etc. This has nothing to do with walgreens. The KJ prescription was from CVS. You DO seem very familiar with TMZ. Care to fill us in? THERE IS NO SHAME IN ADDICTION. Those drugs control your brain. If they did not, no one would be addicted. Learn how these drugs were sold as non-fiction and then when people became addicted, doctors cut them off. THAT is why people start looking for other sources. . Prince was known to be gulping painkillers in 2009, which is when they started becoming more limited. My daughter couldn't even get them for her migraines after that time.

I watched the video and it made me sad. I'm a year older than Prince and to me, he shows a serious mental decline in a person of this age. He looks like he is in his own little world and barely realizes there is a show going on. There is no humor or zest or hospitality even. Fortunately his fans are there for him when he needs them and I hope he felt the 💜 love, but he seemed flat and robot like. [Edited 5/29/17 14:22pm]

That is the opposite of what I'm seeing. To me it looks as if his mind is as sharp as ever.

Genesia said:

leadline said:

Do you guys think the thinness could be due to the size of his afro? I mean anything that big on your head would make you seem smaller.

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Definitely. The bigger your hair, the less you weigh.

Good one, I see what you did there.

At 112, his weight was within the normal range for Prince, which is the 110-120 range. Of course dailymail had em at 80 pounds if you want to believe that nonsense.

His hair wasn't his real hair? WTF?

rogifan said:

I think it was a synthetic hair wig. 💂🏼 That's WTF.

moonsister said:

rogifan said:

His hair wasn't his real hair? WTF?

I think it was a synthetic hair wig. 💂🏼 That's WTF.

Do you have evidence of this, or are you just speculating outrageously?

moonsister said:

And you're basing this on?

cloveringold85 said:

Looks like he was playing in a shack at St. Bart's, with almost no room to move.

moonsister said:

You think it was synthetic hair, or you know it was synthetic hair?

I ask because unless you have any factual evidence to base this on, this is exactly how rumors get started. Careless words.

anangellooksdown said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Sorry, I read the part where she worked for him up until October, 2015. I think a lot of us were shocked at those pics of him at that New Year's Eve party in St. Barts--He did look unusually thin. Something drastically changed with him in the last 6-months of his life, for sure!

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Not a great pic of him, but this was from that night in St. Barts:

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And this one we've seen many times--his arrival in St. Barts, with his pursed lips like he so often had:

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Looks like he was playing in a shack at St. Bart's, with almost no room to move.

There was no stage. Scott the engineer had to build one.

Wow, Laura. I guess Prince could bring his music anywhere.

Tiger Woods was arrested for DUI the other night. He released a statement saying no alcohol was involved, that it was an unexpected reaction to prescription painkillers (we'll see if the police report confirms this or if he's lying). They released his mugshot and let me just say I've never seen a photo or video footage of Prince where he looked anything like that. Sure he looked skinny and I think less makeup and the fro made him look older but that's it. With this Tiger photo it's so obvious he's wasted and had no business driving a car. Also he was pulled over at 3AM. Seems an odd hour of the night to have an unexpected reaction to pain medication.

anangellooksdown said:

moonsister said:

I think it was a synthetic hair wig. 💂🏼 That's WTF.

You think it was synthetic hair, or you know it was synthetic hair? I ask because unless you have any factual evidence to base this on, this is exactly how rumors get started. Careless words.

I saw his last concert in Oakland. Sometimes, when the light hit his hair a certain way, you could see where his hair was thinning. My daughter and I were like, he's gonna be pissed when he realizes this. THAT WAS NOT A WIG. Wigs don't thin in the middle.

He was extremely thin though. I could tell that something was off. I stared at him and told my daughter that she should be recording as much as she could. Something was just.....wrong. I did not suspect that he was at death's door though.

rogifan said:

Tiger Woods was arrested for DUI the other night. He released a statement saying no alcohol was involved, that it was an unexpected reaction to prescription painkillers (we'll see if the police report confirms this or if he's lying). They released his mugshot and let me just say I've never seen a photo or video footage of Prince where he looked anything like that. Sure he looked skinny and I think less makeup and the fro made him look older but that's it. With this Tiger photo it's so obvious he's wasted and had no business driving a car. Also he was pulled over at 3AM. Seems an odd hour of the night to have an unexpected reaction to pain medication.

Tiger just had his fourth back surgery for slipped disc. I know he was given pain meds for that issue so I suspect he is on them. He needs to retire from golf because you can play golf with slipped disc and apparently this has been going on for sometime.

illimack said:

Yes. I saw that too in a later concert w/3rdEG in the U.K. when he turned around and I saw the crown of his head. This was around 2014 or so, so his hair had been thinning for a little while.
I remember right after 4/21/16, there were a lot of longtime Orgers here who have since left and one of them said he was getting older just like the rest of us.

Even Prince knew you can't defy the body's aging process.
He was still very youthful though in his face. He looked like a boy in that regard in some of the PAAM footage.

laurarichardson said:

The police report said he failed a field sobriety test. He didn't know where he was and his speech was slurred. Other than the one BrownMark story I don't remember reading about Prince ever not knowing where he was or having slurred speech (or god forbid falling asleep at the wheel of a car).

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

Tiger just had his fourth back surgery for slipped disc. I know he was given pain meds for that issue so I suspect he is on them. He needs to retire from golf because you can play golf with slipped disc and apparently this has been going on for sometime.

The police report said he failed a field sobriety test. He didn't know where he was and his speech was slurred. Other than the one BrownMark story I don't remember reading about Prince ever not knowing where he was or having slurred speech (or god forbid falling asleep at the wheel of a car).

I read this morning, that there was no alcohol involved and that he fell asleep at the wheel.

PennyPurple said:

Let's go further though - and put it to rest.

His breathalyzer showed NO alcohol.
He just had back surgery and was taking prescription pain medication for that.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

Tiger just had his fourth back surgery for slipped disc. I know he was given pain meds for that issue so I suspect he is on them. He needs to retire from golf because you can play golf with slipped disc and apparently this has been going on for sometime.

The police report said he failed a field sobriety test. He didn't know where he was and his speech was slurred. Other than the one BrownMark story I don't remember reading about Prince ever not knowing where he was or having slurred speech (or god forbid falling asleep at the wheel of a car).

You are correct I have mentioned this a few times. If some people want to believe that Prince was abusing meds for decades let them live in that fantasy world.

As far a Tiger just look how the media went to the negative without having the facts with no concerns for his medical issues. The guy has his problems but the does not have a history of wilding out with drugs and alcohol at least to the point of law enforcement involvement.

Something that seems lost on a lot of people here as Prince did not have that issue either.

anangellooksdown said:

PennyPurple said:

I read this morning, that there was no alcohol involved and that he fell asleep at the wheel.

Let's go further though - and put it to rest. His breathalyzer showed NO alcohol. He just had back surgery and was taking prescription pain medication for that.

Thank you. Fucking media vultures.

PennyPurple said:

Yes he was found in a parked running car with his foot on the break and one blinker on. His speech was slurred and he didn't know where he was, where he came from or where his house was. Clearly had no business being behind the wheel of a car.

laurarichardson said:

I'm sorry but he should never have been behind the wheel of a car in that state. Just because the pills you are taking are legal prescriptions doesn't mean you have no responsibility. All one has to do is look at the mug shot to know he was completely out of it. Why does it matter whether it was alcohol or something else? And why is he popping pills at 2AM and then getting behind the wheels of a car? And doesn't he have a driver? Seems to me there's more to the story that we may never find out.

rogifan said:

/-I did not say what he did was okay but you realize these pills sneak up on you and people do not realize sometimes how powerful they are. A lot of difference taking a prescribed pain pill the going out to get hammered at some club.

laurarichardson said:

I know people who have gotten alcohol related DUIs and they didn't even thing they had drank that much. I'm just glad nothing happened and hopefully Tiger won't have to be on these meds much longer.

anangellooksdown said:

moonsister said:

I think it was a synthetic hair wig. 💂🏼 That's WTF.

You think it was synthetic hair, or you know it was synthetic hair? I ask because unless you have any factual evidence to base this on, this is exactly how rumors get started. Careless words.

Not careless at all if you take a look at pictures before he went with the afro no doubt you can see a piece on top covering until the sides....I forget what magazine cover he was on but as I stood in line at a store a group of girls were in front of me whom I did not know- one of the girls shows the others girls saying" thats one lousy fukin wig there" there all laughed & agreed....I had already noticed his piece so no suprise to me.

Was not hard for anyone to see if you looked at most of those photos before going to that afro.

jimmy3121 said:

Then I guess Kim Berry was lying as she has said it was all his own hair.

rogifan said:

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Exactly. Also, fluffy hair (like the fro) is easy to see through and looks thinner. You can't hide anything with that kind of style.
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Look at the very end of the Judith Hill video where she shoves P out the door. You can see his hairline. No thinning or creeping hairline.

Plus, he would have had a hair transplant if needed. He took care of things. He even offered to let Jon Bream look at his head. A wig would have looked completely different.
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rogifan said:

jimmy3121 said:

Not careless at all if you take a look at pictures before he went with the afro no doubt you can see a piece on top covering until the sides....I forget what magazine cover he was on but as I stood in line at a store a group of girls were in front of me whom I did not know- one of the girls shows the others girls saying" thats one lousy fukin wig there" there all laughed & agreed....I had already noticed his piece so no suprise to me.

Was not hard for anyone to see if you looked at most of those photos before going to that afro.

Then I guess Kim Berry was lying as she has said it was all his own hair.

I keep thinking he would gone ahead and had a hair transplant if he needed hair on his head more reliable than a wig and certainly could afford it.