PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Lil' Boston Terrier on a Ham Bone!! LMAO!!

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So, it wasn't KJ who was chauffeuring him around that night? Wooo....who is this acquaintance?

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I thought KJ was one of the people who found him, along with Andrew Kornfeld, who made the 911 Call, and another staffer? Oh boy, I'm getting confused now, LOL

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Most articles I have read with friends of Prince said they never saw Prince use drugs. Ever.

great find Zena!! Agree with clover too...and I am confused now as to who P was with the night of the 20 th and who found him on the 21st along with the dr. Who is this Chaz Smith? Is he related to Will?

Chazz Smith is P's cousin. Read the article I first posted and then listen to or read this one that I am

posting now. Dude did a double back flip and crawdaddied. See what you think.......

http://www.kare11.com/news/princes-family-opens-up-about-life-after-his-death/296282778

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Rihanna's video "Bitch better have my money" is very creepy! What really got me is when she is standing in an "elevator", wearing a "beret", with a large suitcase.

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Supposedly, the song is about the battle she had years ago with a former manager for money she was owed. But, I just find it strange to put a scene like this in her video.

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Not trying to start any conspiracies here, but this is kinda freaky.

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It is strange and Ps first manager was found dead of the same fentanyl laced pill too... Just makes you say hmmmmmm.....

Yes we were discussing it in another thread but .......POOF!!

zenarose said:

Exactly. We do know that it wasn't a 'STAFFER" But we know now it was an "AQUAINTENCE". Even

still KJ probably knows.

zenarose said:

zenarose said:

zenarose said:

While watching May 17, 2014 Hit n Run II in Manchester on YT it dawned on me that P was bouncing around, dancing, wearing a sleeveless top that showed toned arms with visible muscle definition, and he WASN'T wearing black.

This brings me to my wondering about when he started covering completely in turtlenecks, gloves, etc in head to toe black and noticeably stopped dancing and standing.

Anybody notice?

I ask because I have a feeling that, given what TN said on Today, that information might offer a better timeframe of whatever might have been going on with P's health in the last 18 months or so.

Wow, confliting indeed. Thanks for the find, Zena. Why wouldn't he say when he last saw Prince?

The question of how close to Prince all these people really were bugs me to no end. Sheila. Hadn't spoken to him in six months and when calling after the plane incident, someone told her (obviously not Kirk, otherwise she would have said it was him) he was good.

Tyka. Paying to get into his concerts? Who does that to his own sister?! What kind of relationship did they have for something like that? I understand him making Mayte pay, he divorced her and was probably pissed at her for the ExWifes thingy, but surely not his direct relatives...

Yeah, Mayte. Not questioning her feelings at all, in fact, I kind of like her, but she's now very much present, friends with Sheila and Tyka. What's that all about? She was never in his life after the divorce, right?
For some reason, it feels none of these women were really in his life...

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Maybe all three women shared being shut out by someone whose interpersonal skills were, shall we say, limited ... The man was damaged at early age, and was essentially abandoned by his mother. He related to women like his mother related to him. Cut him off. That was it.

Just to refresh .......here is a transcript of the 911 call. "can you cancel anyone going to Audobon,

confirmed DOA" .....first unconscious, then dead. (in 10 lines of conversation)

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/31791809/transcript-of-prince-911-call-released

zenarose said:

Just to refresh .......here is a transcript of the 911 call. "can you cancel anyone going to Audobon,

confirmed DOA" .....first unconscious, then dead. (in 10 lines of conversation)

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/31791809/transcript-of-prince-911-call-released

Like he hadn't seen him yet? I mean, surely they checked the vitals. It looks like the doctor's son called 911 immediately and then somehow the other two confirmed that Prince was dead.

It still botheres me that the doctors son ,who was carrying meds in his back pack illegally and was not legally able to give them to P, did not first go to the MN doctor.who was licensed to give the drugs, before going to PP...and , as I said before,aren't these drugs available in MN????????

I don't want to keep ... but in going back and reviewing many reports and articles,

even top news agencies, this is how they read...

"Law Enforcement Officials told TMZ" and "It cannot be confirmed but TMZ is reporting" everybody

knows that TMZ is a dig up all the dirt and make sh.....up bird cage liner. So pray tell me why would

LE tell TMZ anything???? Were the other news outlets diligent in pursuing the truth?

Did they just take TMZ's word as thruth? If you go to the TMZ website and go through the archives,

you can plainly see when they hammered Prince and when they left him alone. I went all the way back

to 2011. Type in their search bar Prince. You can go back over the years. How is it that they were the first to know that P's plane made that ER landing?? Why did they start hounding him again?? Pics at the DMV, pics at Walgreen. Prince telling everyone not to believe the media.........As an after

thought, since TMZ was so good at getting the story FIRST, where's the pics and story of P's

body being removed from PP??? Just asking!! The other news outlets don't have this information either. Is it because they didn't have it from TMZ to report???

TMZ had the "lead" on this story.... and they are not even legitimate

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zenarose said:

MMJas said:

Dibblekins said:

80tomato said:

It still botheres me that the doctors son ,who was carrying meds in his back pack illegally and was not legally able to give them to P, did not first go to the MN doctor.who was licensed to give the drugs, before going to PP...and , as I said before,aren't these drugs available in MN????????

He didn't go straight to PP...It was reported that he went to a hotel first to sleep / freshen up, before being collected in the morning to go to PP. That seems slightly odd, given that the situation was described as a 'grave emergency'.

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One reason for the above might be that this was an intervention which had been kept secret from P. Given that the hours Prince kept were unusual (ie working throughout the night and going to bed at around the time 'normal' people get up) I do wonder if they planned to sneak the doctor(s) into PP at a time when they knew P would be asleep, and take advantage of the fact that he would be a bit disorientated to administer the medication / persuade him to go to rehab?

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One also wonders who it was that collected Andrew from the hotel - because we were subsequently told that when he arrived, PP staff were already panicking, unable to find P (I assume the staff would be KJ and Meron). So it does seem as though there is another person involved - the identity of whom, we can't be sure (possibly the same person who took P to Walgreens the night before, as whoever it is seems to be 'the chauffeur').

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laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said:

The box / case reminds me of the sort one reporter said Prince had - the insides were purple velvet and, apparently, there was a little seat inside it on which Prince used to SIT so he could hide / be carted around inside it!? I think the reporter also said it had a little peephole so Prince could spy out of it / see where he was being wheeled...

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Don't ask me where this article was - it was a genuine piece - the guy had been invited to interview P whilst on tour (was it Musicology or the London residency..?) but never actually got to speak to him, just observe.

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Prince really was as nutty as a fruitcake - is it any wonder some people think he's still alive and in hiding???

-- He used those boxes to be wheeled on stage unnoticed by the audience as the box just looks like equitpment. There is a picture of him being wheeled up on state with Janelle Monae. He also was wheeled off in a box on the Musicology tour. Nothing weird about the element of surprise.

I think we were just having a chuckle about it, Laura. It's amusing..?!?

zenarose said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said: great find Zena!! Agree with clover too...and I am confused now as to who P was with the night of the 20 th and who found him on the 21st along with the dr. Who is this Chaz Smith? Is he related to Will?

Chazz Smith is P's cousin. Read the article I first posted and then listen to or read this one that I am

posting now. Dude did a double back flip and crawdaddied. See what you think.......

http://www.kare11.com/news/princes-family-opens-up-about-life-after-his-death/296282778

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Yea, I saw that interview. I thought it was interesting how in the beginning, Prince's family was adamant about Prince not using drugs. Then, they starting saying something totally different. Notice how CS didn't really come out and say Prince was addicted? His remarks were very evasive, I thought.

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

zenarose said:

Chazz Smith is P's cousin. Read the article I first posted and then listen to or read this one that I am

posting now. Dude did a double back flip and crawdaddied. See what you think.......

http://www.kare11.com/news/princes-family-opens-up-about-life-after-his-death/296282778

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Those two articles are excellent Zena!! Those were conflicting statements given by Chaz...hmmmm he can't seem to keep his story straight!! also that is the article that mentioned TMZ with the plane incident and P getting a narcan shot due to Percocet....plus Sheila E saying this... Sheila E. said: “It’s just like being a football player and a basketball player. You know he really took care of himself. He ate well. He ate better than me.” She said she hadn’t talked to him for at least six months but tried to reach him after reading reports that he needed emergency medical attention. She said the man who answered told her Prince was sleeping and would let him know she called. “He said he was good,” she said. Great find!!!

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Wow, just amazing what Sheila E. said!! She said Prince ate better than she did, and took good care of himself. Yet, Prince's chef and other's sing a different tune!

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Huh? So, "some man" answered the phone and told Sheila that Prince was sleeping and he was good? I wonder who that was?!

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LBrent said:

While watching May 17, 2014 Hit n Run II in Manchester on YT it dawned on me that P was bouncing around, dancing, wearing a sleeveless top that showed toned arms with visible muscle definition, and he WASN'T wearing black.

This brings me to my wondering about when he started covering completely in turtlenecks, gloves, etc in head to toe black and noticeably stopped dancing and standing.

Anybody notice?

I ask because I have a feeling that, given what TN said on Today, that information might offer a better timeframe of whatever might have been going on with P's health in the last 18 months or so.

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Yes, I recall Prince was bouncing around in 2014 and even 2015. If he was in any pain, he sure did fool us!

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I can remember Prince wearing turtlenecks, long sleeves as far back as late 1990s & early 2000s. I think he started to change his attire after he became a JW, and his music changed as well. No longer would he use vulgarity in his words or music.

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zenarose said:

I don't want to keep ... but in going back and reviewing many reports and articles,

even top news agencies, this is how they read...

"Law Enforcement Officials told TMZ" and "It cannot be confirmed but TMZ is reporting" everybody

knows that TMZ is a dig up all the dirt and make sh.....up bird cage liner. So pray tell me why would

LE tell TMZ anything???? Were the other news outlets diligent in pursuing the truth?

Did they just take TMZ's word as thruth? If you go to the TMZ website and go through the archives,

you can plainly see when they hammered Prince and when they left him alone. I went all the way back

to 2011. Type in their search bar Prince. You can go back over the years. How is it that they were the first to know that P's plane made that ER landing?? Why did they start hounding him again?? Pics at the DMV, pics at Walgreen. Prince telling everyone not to believe the media.........As an after

thought, since TMZ was so good at getting the story FIRST, where's the pics and story of P's

body being removed from PP??? Just asking!! The other news outlets don't have this information either. Is it because they didn't have it from TMZ to report???

TMZ had the "lead" on this story.... and they are not even legitimate

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All very good questions. All we need to do is find the missing pieces to the puzzle.

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I think TMZ had the lead on all these stories, because they are owned by WB. They are all in cahoots!!

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I also think that someone who was in Prince's "inner circle" is feeding a lot of this BS to TMZ!!

Dibblekins said:

80tomato said:

It still botheres me that the doctors son ,who was carrying meds in his back pack illegally and was not legally able to give them to P, did not first go to the MN doctor.who was licensed to give the drugs, before going to PP...and , as I said before,aren't these drugs available in MN????????

He didn't go straight to PP...It was reported that he went to a hotel first to sleep / freshen up, before being collected in the morning to go to PP. That seems slightly odd, given that the situation was described as a 'grave emergency'.

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One reason for the above might be that this was an intervention which had been kept secret from P. Given that the hours Prince kept were unusual (ie working throughout the night and going to bed at around the time 'normal' people get up) I do wonder if they planned to sneak the doctor(s) into PP at a time when they knew P would be asleep, and take advantage of the fact that he would be a bit disorientated to administer the medication / persuade him to go to rehab?

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One also wonders who it was that collected Andrew from the hotel - because we were subsequently told that when he arrived, PP staff were already panicking, unable to find P (I assume the staff would be KJ and Meron). So it does seem as though there is another person involved - the identity of whom, we can't be sure (possibly the same person who took P to Walgreens the night before, as whoever it is seems to be 'the chauffeur').

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Prince stayed at a hotel after the plane incident before returning to PP? This is the first I heard of this. All the reports I read stated that Prince remained at the hospital in Moline for several hours, then, getting back on the plane in the early morning to go back to PP.

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The story about people already in a panic when Andrew Kornfeld arrived is also news to me. The reports I read stated that staffers contacted Prince, but there was no answer, so they went to look for him, then he was found in the elevator. Andrew called 911.

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Dibblekins said:

laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said: -- He used those boxes to be wheeled on stage unnoticed by the audience as the box just looks like equitpment. There is a picture of him being wheeled up on state with Janelle Monae. He also was wheeled off in a box on the Musicology tour. Nothing weird about the element of surprise.

I think we were just having a chuckle about it, Laura. It's amusing..?!?

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Laura doesn't have a sense of humor. She is dead-serious about everything!

A lot of sites reported this. A lot.

" Andrew's dad, rehab specialist Dr. Howard Kornfeld, got the call from Prince's rep the day before the singer died, pleading with him to come to Minnesota to save Prince from a fatal OD. "

https://www.google.pt/search?q=Andrew+Kornfeld&rlz=1C1GGGE_pt-PTPT509PT509&oq=Andrew+Kornfeld&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

So, forget about the doctor's son for a minute. That REP pleaded with the doctor to come and save Prince from a fatal OD that hadn't happen yet? Who was that Rep? Prince was probably so far gone in his addiction that they felt the need to call the doctor the day before. There was urgency. Yet, the doctor did not come, instead sending his son with illegal meds. The son then went to the hotel first, after taking a night flight. Where's the urgency in this?

precioux said:

cloveringold85 said: Dibblekins said: He didn't go straight to PP...It was reported that he went to a hotel first to sleep / freshen up, before being collected in the morning to go to PP. That seems slightly odd, given that the situation was described as a 'grave emergency'. .One reason for the above might be that this was an intervention which had been kept secret from P. Given that the hours Prince kept were unusual (ie working throughout the night and going to bed at around the time 'normal' people get up) I do wonder if they planned to sneak the doctor(s) into PP at a time when they knew P would be asleep, and take advantage of the fact that he would be a bit disorientated to administer the medication / persuade him to go to rehab?.One also wonders who it was that collected Andrew from the hotel - because we were subsequently told that when he arrived, PP staff were already panicking, unable to find P (I assume the staff would be KJ and Meron). So it does seem as though there is another person involved - the identity of whom, we can't be sure (possibly the same person who took P to Walgreens the night before, as whoever it is seems to be 'the chauffeur').. . Prince stayed at a hotel after the plane incident before returning to PP? This is the first I heard of this. All the reports I read stated that Prince remained at the hospital in Moline for several hours, then, getting back on the plane in the early morning to go back to PP. . The story about people already in a panic when Andrew Kornfeld arrived is also news to me. The reports I read stated that staffers contacted Prince, but there was no answer, so they went to look for him, then he was found in the elevator. Andrew called 911.No,AK stayed at a hotel coming off a red-eye flight(late 4/20)...was then brought to a hotel by P's camp (for beauty rest)...then was retrieved 4/21 from hotel by said camp to then be brought to PP on 4/21. What intrigues me, is that if this was a "grave medical emergency", AND AK had taken a RED EYE flight in...what's the reason for beauty rest and shut eye? Seriously? (and I HAVE NO IDEA why my posts show up this way, when in the "preview post" it shows the original post, then my words....then the post shows up as a damn run on .

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OMG!! I must be so tired that I can't even see straight, or type straight, for that matter!! LMAO!!

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Thanks for correcting me!! Okay, now I understand.

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But, like you said, that is totally f-up because WHY would AK stay the night at a hotel if it was a "grave medical emergency"? Also, It was someone from the Prince camp that drove him to and from the Hotel to PP? I wonder who that was?!

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At what time did AK check in at the hotel, anyone knows? Could he have been met at the hotel by a Prince rep and given the rep something for Prince to take in the meantime, and then gone to the hotel with the idea of going to PP in the morning? is that possible?

Found this comment by KarmaeatsDogma :
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I know another patient who died while taking the unmonitored buprenorphine prescribed by Dr. Kornfeld. His name was Dr. John Boyle Borchers. He was a neurosurgeon and a brilliant guy. He was teaching at Stanford while taking these powerful detox meds. John took off in a plane one evening heading for Tahoe, while on these meds and crashed and died. This doctor should be shut down. You CANNOT DISPENSE BUPRENORPHINE safely unless monitored medically during the transition from the opiode meds. Sending ones son, not a doctor, and NOT calling 911 to get immediate help for Prince, is simply unacceptable.

My Kaiser doctor stated that her mother who was having a drinking problem, went to Dr. Kornfeld and was put in a hotel room alone, and was so over-medicated for “detox” with his goulash of drugs that she nearly died. He’s a train wreck waiting to happen.

Dr. Kornfeld, who is known to many MD’s in the San Francisco bay area as ” Dr. Frankenstein” charges a boatload of cash for his visits, he cuts the buprenorphine up into his version of the right dose, and dispenses it himself without a pharmacy making all of the profit without any of the standard care a patient should be given. He should be investigated at the highest level."

http://heavy.com/entertai...-911-call/

MMJas said:

A lot of sites reported this. A lot.

" Andrew's dad, rehab specialist Dr. Howard Kornfeld, got the call from Prince's rep the day before the singer died, pleading with him to come to Minnesota to save Prince from a fatal OD. "

https://www.google.pt/search?q=Andrew+Kornfeld&rlz=1C1GGGE_pt-PTPT509PT509&oq=Andrew+Kornfeld&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

So, forget about the doctor's son for a minute. That REP pleaded with the doctor to come and save Prince from a fatal OD that hadn't happen yet? Who was that Rep? Prince was probably so far gone in his addiction that they felt the need to call the doctor the day before. There was urgency. Yet, the doctor did not come, instead sending his son with illegal meds. The son then went to the hotel first, after taking a night flight. Where's the urgency in this?

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Yes, I know. None of this makes any damn sense!!

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Supposedly, Prince's "rep" who set all this up with Dr. Kornfeld was his assistant (can't recall her name at the moment).

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This entire story seems so shady to me, because Andrew Kornfeld was there, the night before, and given the fact that the security system was turned-off, makes it look incredibly suspicious.

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If someone is having a medical emergency, you call 911 ASAP!! You don't contact someone out of state who isn't even qualified to treat anyone, much less someone with a serious addiction.

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Don't even get me started!!