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Reply #1410 posted 12/13/16 12:10pm

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laurarichardson said:



MMJas said:




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I think he did have a phone. Andre said he called him and left a message. Tamron said she texted him on Saturday and he texted back for her to call him and they talked for about 3 hours.



The questions is who was handling his phone.




Agree. I wonder why he did not use it and chose to go to the elevator instead?



He could have been in so much pain he did not know what to do or maybe he was trying to get to his phone.


He was not in pain that's certain. He passed due to fentanyl toxicity. The last thing he was in would be pain. I'm not even sure at that point he would have recognized he was in imminent danger. That's one question that haunts me: was he going to his quarters or leaving his quarters? Was he going to retire for the night, or was he going for help? What exactly was he aware of at that moment? I hate the thought of him dying alone in an elevator when he realized his life was in danger and was trying to find help.
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Reply #1411 posted 12/13/16 12:46pm

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If he did not take the Fent deliberately, then he probably popped one or more pills, thinking it was the same old product. Collapsed in the elevator with his clothes on incorrectly - that is the wild card for me. Too many questions.

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Reply #1412 posted 12/13/16 12:50pm

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sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:



MMJas said:




laurarichardson said:



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I think he did have a phone. Andre said he called him and left a message. Tamron said she texted him on Saturday and he texted back for her to call him and they talked for about 3 hours.



The questions is who was handling his phone.




Agree. I wonder why he did not use it and chose to go to the elevator instead?



He could have been in so much pain he did not know what to do or maybe he was trying to get to his phone.


He was not in pain that's certain. He passed due to fentanyl toxicity. The last thing he was in would be pain. I'm not even sure at that point he would have recognized he was in imminent danger. That's one question that haunts me: was he going to his quarters or leaving his quarters? Was he going to retire for the night, or was he going for help? What exactly was he aware of at that moment? I hate the thought of him dying alone in an elevator when he realized his life was in danger and was trying to find help.
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So he would have been in no pain from the poisoning? My understanding is your breathing is cut off this does not sound like a pain free experience.
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Reply #1413 posted 12/13/16 2:12pm

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PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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True! He didn't want us to know "everything" about his life! LOL lol

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He used Skype & Cell Phones! LOL pc mobile lol

Wish he would've skyped me. lol I wouldn't have complained, no matter what time it was. wink

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Well, with Prince, there is always an exception!! LOL

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Call me!! LOL lol

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Reply #1414 posted 12/13/16 2:14pm

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Dibblekins said:

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Well, it sounds to me like P was screening his own calls after Moline. Either that or his assistant had a list of who to let through. He spoke to Tamron, Van Jones, Will Smith but not older associates like Apollonia, Sheila and Andre. Hmmm maybe he hadn't heard from them in a while and maybe he couldn't face all the questions from people who knew him well?

Maybe older associates were also less likely to be 'yes men' - and P didn't want anything or anyone to deter him from whatever it was he had planned..? eek

^^ yeahthat^^

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Reply #1415 posted 12/13/16 2:18pm

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laurarichardson said:

sonshine said:
He was not in pain that's certain. He passed due to fentanyl toxicity. The last thing he was in would be pain. I'm not even sure at that point he would have recognized he was in imminent danger. That's one question that haunts me: was he going to his quarters or leaving his quarters? Was he going to retire for the night, or was he going for help? What exactly was he aware of at that moment? I hate the thought of him dying alone in an elevator when he realized his life was in danger and was trying to find help. [Edited 12/13/16 12:11pm]
So he would have been in no pain from the poisoning? My understanding is your breathing is cut off this does not sound like a pain free experience. [Edited 12/13/16 12:50pm]

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I pray that he went peacefully to heaven. pray

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Reply #1416 posted 12/14/16 3:49pm

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Mumio said:



laurarichardson said:


CooperC62057 said:
So what's the possibility that the entire overdose and pain med dependency spin was purposely put out by authorities to keep what really happened quiet during an investigation?

I have been think about this the last couple of days because all of the info we have us from unamed sources. Nothing really in depth from the police. Even Moline troubles me has you can get the transcripts from the EMT via FOIA. How come no one from the media as done this? How come no more media inquiries about Shulberg? The big question was someone slipping something to Prince that he was unaware and was waiting to get information on from those test that DrS was bringing on April 21st. No one is saying he was not dealing with a dependency issue with pain pills but what if something else was going on. Think about Adrian saying he spoke to his a few days before the concert to let him know he was not a 100% and that he would be seeing his Dr when he got back from Atlanta. What about the Atlanta promoter saying he left the stage complainting about stomach pain? What if he thought he was just dealing with withdrawals or even the flu and had no idea he was being poisoned? These are just thoughts as do many things don't add up. [Edited 12/11/16 16:35pm]


The ones to keep an eye on are the ones who have said nothing. All these others are deliberate distracters imo, jumping in to keep everyone off balance and chasing vague and unprovable theories.






MUMIO: Do you remember if Hannah, Donna, or Ida have been interviewed or made statements?? Or Joshua Walton?? I have been searching but haven't found anything yet.
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Reply #1417 posted 12/14/16 4:50pm

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zenarose said:

Mumio said:


The ones to keep an eye on are the ones who have said nothing. All these others are deliberate distracters imo, jumping in to keep everyone off balance and chasing vague and unprovable theories.

MUMIO: Do you remember if Hannah, Donna, or Ida have been interviewed or made statements?? Or Joshua Walton?? I have been searching but haven't found anything yet.



I can only recall these: http://www.mirror.co.uk/3...es-7834388 and here: http://blog.thecurrent.or...om-prince/ and this one from Josh: https://twitter.com/JOSHU...2253622272 . Donna Grantis: https://twitter.com/Donna...8859978752 and Trevor Guy: https://twitter.com/trevguy/status/725447957772804096

There may be other articles out there by these people that I haven't seen. I've thought they have kept pretty quiet. They, as well as some others, are the ones I am referring to. I'll be very surprised if any of these people will say anything more that sheds any light.



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Reply #1418 posted 12/14/16 7:57pm

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Mumio said:

zenarose said:

Mumio said: MUMIO: Do you remember if Hannah, Donna, or Ida have been interviewed or made statements?? Or Joshua Walton?? I have been searching but haven't found anything yet.



I can only recall these: http://www.mirror.co.uk/3...es-7834388 and here: http://blog.thecurrent.or...om-prince/ and this one from Josh: https://twitter.com/JOSHU...2253622272 . Donna Grantis: https://twitter.com/Donna...8859978752 and Trevor Guy: https://twitter.com/trevguy/status/725447957772804096

There may be other articles out there by these people that I haven't seen. I've thought they have kept pretty quiet. They, as well as some others, are the ones I am referring to. I'll be very surprised if any of these people will say anything more that sheds any light.



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Thanks for the links Mumio. These are beautiful tributes.

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Reply #1419 posted 12/15/16 9:25pm

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laurarichardson said:

sonshine said:


He was not in pain that's certain. He passed due to fentanyl toxicity. The last thing he was in would be pain. I'm not even sure at that point he would have recognized he was in imminent danger. That's one question that haunts me: was he going to his quarters or leaving his quarters? Was he going to retire for the night, or was he going for help? What exactly was he aware of at that moment? I hate the thought of him dying alone in an elevator when he realized his life was in danger and was trying to find help.
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So he would have been in no pain from the poisoning? My understanding is your breathing is cut off this does not sound like a pain free experience.
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If he took enough fentanyl to kill him he would have been quite "high" idk how else to say it. Breathing is not quite "cut off" and by the time you are aware (if you aren't too high to be aware) that your respiratory rate is affected you would more than likely "pass out" before there was any suffering other than a brief moment of panic perhaps thinking "oh f*** this isn't normal".
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Reply #1420 posted 12/15/16 9:44pm

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sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:


So he would have been in no pain from the poisoning? My understanding is your breathing is cut off this does not sound like a pain free experience.
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If he took enough fentanyl to kill him he would have been quite "high" idk how else to say it. Breathing is not quite "cut off" and by the time you are aware (if you aren't too high to be aware) that your respiratory rate is affected you would more than likely "pass out" before there was any suffering other than a brief moment of panic perhaps thinking "oh f*** this isn't normal".

We will never know for sure but I agree. From what I've read he would have died almost instantly. I guess he might have had a few seconds were he said to himself, I know I'm slipping away broken cry bheart.
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