Reply #870 posted 11/23/16 9:57am
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monica80 said:
Does anyone know anything about V.N.'s mother Jeannine Halloran?
Do not know much about her but I read the transcript from the court with Cory's mom. She comes off as evasive and shady. Once again why would she not have gone to court to prove Cory was Duane's son. Duane worked for Prince he was not poor or unable to take care of the child. I do not think Cory is Duane's son and now I wonder about Brianna.
I can't see a women not getting parentage straight if they know the other parent is capable of financially taking care of the child.
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Reply #871 posted 11/23/16 9:59am
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tmo1965 said:
nelcp777 said:
New documents released in regards to Corey Simmons is not genetically related to Duane via previous DNA test. In addition, Brianna and VN have evidence to prove Duane did not have a child relationship with Corey and that the mother of Corey knew Duane was not the father.
Interesting reading:
Brianna and VN's response and claims:
http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Response-of-Brianna-Nelson-and-VN-to-Memorandum-for-Presentation-of-Prima-Facie-Evidence_-11-22-16.pdf
DNA results:
http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Declaration-of-Deanna-Besbekos-LaPage_11-22-16.pdf
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Correction. The DNA test shows that Corey and Brianna do not have a common parent. It's possible that Brianna, may not be Duane's. It could be either way. This was a store bought DNA test. We don't know the chain of custody of the samples. How do we know that Briana did not submit someone else's DNA, for example? The court will have to order DNA tests of Duane's descendents as well as John's to prove a genetic relationship, and everyone will have to appear in person to submit samples. That's the only way to prove custody of the samples. In other words, the store bought DNA test will not hold up in court.
Fair enough. I do agree with you in regards to the home DNA test. I was only trying to relay the information contained in the documents. I would imagine Corey will take the same stance as Brianna and VN in refusing the DNA tests. I am sure the court will order DNA testing so that any custody of evidence is secured and to ensure samples are properly taken.
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Reply #872 posted 11/23/16 10:01am
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laurarichardson said:
monica80 said:
Does anyone know anything about V.N.'s mother Jeannine Halloran?
Do not know much about her but I read the transcript from the court with Cory's mom. She comes off as evasive and shady. Once again why would she not have gone to court to prove Cory was Duane's son. Duane worked for Prince he was not poor or unable to take care of the child. I do not think Cory is Duane's son and now I wonder about Brianna.
I can't see a women not getting parentage straight if they know the other parent is capable of financially taking care of the child.
I have the same feelings as you. The impression I got from the latest documents is that Brianna and VN are appealing the decison for the relationship aspect. I get the vibe they do not want to take the DNA test as Duane has no genetic relationship to John L. |
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Reply #873 posted 11/23/16 10:03am
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laurarichardson said:
monica80 said:
Does anyone know anything about V.N.'s mother Jeannine Halloran?
Do not know much about her but I read the transcript from the court with Cory's mom. She comes off as evasive and shady. Once again why would she not have gone to court to prove Cory was Duane's son. Duane worked for Prince he was not poor or unable to take care of the child. I do not think Cory is Duane's son and now I wonder about Brianna.
I can't see a women not getting parentage straight if they know the other parent is capable of financially taking care of the child.
We are talking about two different mothers. Monica08 is asking about VN's mother not Corey's.
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Reply #874 posted 11/23/16 10:06am
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laurarichardson said:
1Sasha said:
Now Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins (sp) is asking through an attorney for anything she gives to the court to be held as confidential and not released to the public. That filing is dated yesterday. She's the one who supposedly contacted Dr. Kornfeld's office on April 20.
She is listed as the manager of the LLC so she may be turning over financial docs so I am sure that information will be sealed. I was wondering when she was going to show up and how she has managed to stay under the radar for so long.
Why would Phaedra need an attorney?
This is very odd. Very, very odd.
She could have just handed over the documents to Bremer and then they could have decided whether the documents even needed to be filed with the Court and/or sealed. |
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Reply #875 posted 11/23/16 10:25am
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I think in this case everyone is lawyered up, and maybe everyone should be. She is not only involved in the financial side of his affairs, but she hired Dr. Kornfeld who sent his kid across state lines with a drug he shouldn't have been carrying to attend to an international icon with at least one medical issue who turned up dead. |
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Reply #876 posted 11/23/16 10:28am
nelcp777 |
1Sasha said:
I think in this case everyone is lawyered up, and maybe everyone should be. She is not only involved in the financial side of his affairs, but she hired Dr. Kornfeld who sent his kid across state lines with a drug he shouldn't have been carrying to attend to an international icon with at least one medical issue who turned up dead.
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Reply #877 posted 11/23/16 10:30am
monica80 |
Yes ISaidLifeIsJustAGame I was asking about V.N.' S mother not Corey's mother, thank you for clarifying that. Laurarichardson thank you for your response, I appreciate your attempt and time to answer my question. Anyhow, I ask about Jeannine Halloran because of her interest in the estate and why she's so convicted to receive money from the estate knowing she's not genetically related to the Nelson family via John Nelson. Although she's appealing the courts decision denying her daughter V.N. and Brianna as heirs, it's her persistence that draws a lot of curiosity to her motive and determination. |
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Reply #878 posted 11/23/16 10:41am
laurarichardso n |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
laurarichardson said:
Do not know much about her but I read the transcript from the court with Cory's mom. She comes off as evasive and shady. Once again why would she not have gone to court to prove Cory was Duane's son. Duane worked for Prince he was not poor or unable to take care of the child. I do not think Cory is Duane's son and now I wonder about Brianna.
I can't see a women not getting parentage straight if they know the other parent is capable of financially taking care of the child.
We are talking about two different mothers. Monica08 is asking about VN's mother not Corey's.
I am aware of who Monica08 was referening. I was just bringing up Cory's mom's transcript. |
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Reply #879 posted 11/23/16 10:46am
laurarichardso n |
monica80 said:
Yes ISaidLifeIsJustAGame I was asking about V.N.' S mother not Corey's mother, thank you for clarifying that. Laurarichardson thank you for your response, I appreciate your attempt and time to answer my question. Anyhow, I ask about Jeannine Halloran because of her interest in the estate and why she's so convicted to receive money from the estate knowing she's not genetically related to the Nelson family via John Nelson. Although she's appealing the courts decision denying her daughter V.N. and Brianna as heirs, it's her persistence that draws a lot of curiosity to her motive and determination.
I remember reading something in the court papers early on that reference sealing information pertainng to V.N. mother, Prince and Duane. One of the attorney's said the info was being sealed because it was of a personal nature. Forgive me because this was a while ago but at the time I wondered what that meant. What was the nature of the realationship between this women and the brothers. |
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Reply #880 posted 11/23/16 11:13am
monica80 |
laurarichardson said:
monica80 said: Yes ISaidLifeIsJustAGame I was asking about V.N.' S mother not Corey's mother, thank you for clarifying that. Laurarichardson thank you for your response, I appreciate your attempt and time to answer my question. Anyhow, I ask about Jeannine Halloran because of her interest in the estate and why she's so convicted to receive money from the estate knowing she's not genetically related to the Nelson family via John Nelson. Although she's appealing the courts decision denying her daughter V.N. and Brianna as heirs, it's her persistence that draws a lot of curiosity to her motive and determination.
I remember reading something in the court papers early on that reference sealing information pertainng to V.N. mother, Prince and Duane. One of the attorney's said the info was being sealed because it was of a personal nature. Forgive me because this was a while ago but at the time I wondered
what that meant. What was the nature of the realationship between this women and the brothers. I guess I'm more curious about her too because there's pictures of most parties involved, including V.N. on the internet in this case except for her (Jeannine). I read she had a baby back in March but no photo of her. I'm just curious to put a face to the name |
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Reply #881 posted 11/23/16 12:31pm
laurarichardso n |
monica80 said: laurarichardson said:
monica80 said: Yes ISaidLifeIsJustAGame I was asking about V.N.' S mother not Corey's mother, thank you for clarifying that. Laurarichardson thank you for your response, I appreciate your attempt and time to answer my question. Anyhow, I ask about Jeannine Halloran because of her interest in the estate and why she's so convicted to receive money from the estate knowing she's not genetically related to the Nelson family via John Nelson. Although she's appealing the courts decision denying her daughter V.N. and Brianna as heirs, it's her persistence that draws a lot of curiosity to her motive and determination.
I remember reading something in the court papers early on that reference sealing information pertainng to V.N. mother, Prince and Duane. One of the attorney's said the info was being sealed because it was of a personal nature. Forgive me because this was a while ago but at the time I wondered
what that meant. What was the nature of the realationship between this women and the brothers. I guess I'm more curious about her too because there's pictures of most parties involved, including V.N. on the internet in this case except for her (Jeannine). I read she had a baby back in March but no photo of her. I'm just curious to put a face to the name -- How old is her mom to be having a baby. |
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Reply #882 posted 11/23/16 12:36pm
ISaidLifeIsJus tAGame |
laurarichardson said:
monica80 said:
I guess I'm more curious about her too because there's pictures of most parties involved, including V.N. on the internet in this case except for her (Jeannine). I read she had a baby back in March but no photo of her. I'm just curious to put a face to the name
-- How old is her mom to be having a baby.
VN is still a minor so probably not that old.
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Reply #883 posted 11/23/16 1:16pm
monica80 |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
laurarichardson said: monica80 said:
I guess I'm more curious about her too because there's pictures of most parties involved, including V.N. on the internet in this case except for her (Jeannine). I read she had a baby back in March but no photo of her. I'm just curious to put a face to the name -- How old is her mom to be having a baby.
VN is still a minor so probably not that old. Yes, Jeannine was born in 79 |
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Reply #884 posted 11/23/16 1:54pm
80tomato |
monica80 said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
VN is still a minor so probably not that old.
Yes, Jeannine was born in 79
can someone clarify who is the mother of Duane Nelson junior and Briana
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Reply #885 posted 11/23/16 8:12pm
ISaidLifeIsJus tAGame |
80tomato said:
monica80 said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Yes, Jeannine was born in 79
can someone clarify who is the mother of Duane Nelson junior and Briana
[Edited 11/23/16 13:55pm]
I dont have my notes in front of me but P's Dads' first wife was the mother of Duane.
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Reply #886 posted 11/23/16 8:23pm
80tomato |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
80tomato said:
can someone clarify who is the mother of Duane Nelson junior and Briana
[Edited 11/23/16 13:55pm]
I dont have my notes in front of me but P's Dads' first wife was the mother of Duane.
Yes, but who is the mother of Duanes children |
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Reply #887 posted 11/23/16 8:34pm
ISaidLifeIsJus tAGame |
80tomato said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
I dont have my notes in front of me but P's Dads' first wife was the mother of Duane.
Yes, but who is the mother of Duanes children
There are 3 different mothers. |
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Reply #888 posted 11/23/16 8:47pm
80tomato |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
80tomato said:
Yes, but who is the mother of Duanes children
There are 3 different mothers.
oh my, i am really confused...so Duane Jr and his sister Brianna have different mothers and then Duane Jr who is deceased has a daughter V N whose mother is Jeanine...thanks in advance for clarifying [Edited 11/23/16 20:49pm] |
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Reply #889 posted 11/23/16 10:13pm
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
laurarichardson said:
monica80 said: Does anyone know anything about V.N.'s mother Jeannine Halloran?
Do not know much about her but I read the transcript from the court with Cory's mom. She comes off as evasive and shady. Once again why would she not have gone to court to prove Cory was Duane's son. Duane worked for Prince he was not poor or unable to take care of the child. I do not think Cory is Duane's son and now I wonder about Brianna.
I can't see a women not getting parentage straight if they know the other parent is capable of financially taking care of the child.
We are talking about two different mothers. Monica08 is asking about VN's mother not Corey's. I agree with you Laura. Brianna and Corey not being siblings does not matter because they are not related to John L and will never be able to prove equitable adoption of Duane. But let's pretend that Prince had a will and he left everything to his six siblings. Do you believe that Brianna and Corey would still try to contest the will? would they have been able to convince an attorney to take their case knowing that they are not related to John L or Prince? |
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Reply #890 posted 11/23/16 11:46pm
monica80 |
Vee0319 said: ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
laurarichardson said:
monica80 said: Does anyone know anything about V.N.'s mother Jeannine Halloran?
Do not know much about her but I read the transcript from the court with Cory's mom. She comes off as evasive and shady. Once again why would she not have gone to court to prove Cory was Duane's son. Duane worked for Prince he was not poor or unable to take care of the child. I do not think Cory is Duane's son and now I wonder about Brianna.
I can't see a women not getting parentage straight if they know the other parent is capable of financially taking care of the child.
We are talking about two different mothers. Monica08 is asking about VN's mother not Corey's. I agree with you Laura. Brianna and Corey not being siblings does not matter because they are not related to John L and will never be able to prove equitable adoption of Duane. But let's pretend that Prince had a will and he left everything to his six siblings. Do you believe that Brianna and Corey would still try to contest the will? would they have been able to convince an attorney to take their case knowing that they are not related to John L or Prince? Hypothetically speaking, if Prince had a will and left everything to his siblings, I still think Brianna and Cory would get the same verdict they have already received. The siblings would still try to deny them their rights to Princes' estate. |
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Reply #891 posted 11/24/16 5:16am
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
laurarichardson said:
She is listed as the manager of the LLC so she may be turning over financial docs so I am sure that information will be sealed. I was wondering when she was going to show up and how she has managed to stay under the radar for so long.
Why would Phaedra need an attorney?
This is very odd. Very, very odd.
She could have just handed over the documents to Bremer and then they could have decided whether the documents even needed to be filed with the Court and/or sealed.
Why didn't Ms. Parks show up at the beginning?? She has had this information for at least 2 years. So
why show up 8 months after the fact?? [Edited 11/24/16 5:16am] |
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Reply #892 posted 11/24/16 5:26am
laurarichardso n |
Vee0319 said: ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
laurarichardson said:
monica80 said: Does anyone know anything about V.N.'s mother Jeannine Halloran?
Do not know much about her but I read the transcript from the court with Cory's mom. She comes off as evasive and shady. Once again why would she not have gone to court to prove Cory was Duane's son. Duane worked for Prince he was not poor or unable to take care of the child. I do not think Cory is Duane's son and now I wonder about Brianna.
I can't see a women not getting parentage straight if they know the other parent is capable of financially taking care of the child.
We are talking about two different mothers. Monica08 is asking about VN's mother not Corey's. I agree with you Laura. Brianna and Corey not being siblings does not matter because they are not related to John L and will never be able to prove equitable adoption of Duane. But let's pretend that Prince had a will and he left everything to his six siblings. Do you believe that Brianna and Corey would still try to contest the will? would they have been able to convince an attorney to take their case knowing that they are not related to John L or Prince? -- They would have found some bootleg lawyer to take their case even if Prince had a will. People contest wills all the time now this is almost never successful but it ties up the probate with needless litigation. |
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Reply #893 posted 11/24/16 6:29am
monica80 |
80tomato said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
80tomato said:
Yes, but who is the mother of Duanes children
There are 3 different mothers.
oh my, i am really confused...so Duane Jr and his sister Brianna have different mothers and then Duane Jr who is deceased has a daughter V N whose mother is Jeanine...thanks in advance for clarifying [Edited 11/23/16 20:49pm] |
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Reply #894 posted 11/24/16 6:37am
monica80 |
monica80 said: 80tomato said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
80tomato said:
Yes, but who is the mother of Duanes children
There are 3 different mothers.
oh my, i am really confused...so Duane Jr and his sister Brianna have different mothers and then Duane Jr who is deceased has a daughter V N whose mother is Jeanine...thanks in advance for clarifying [Edited 11/23/16 20:49pm] Yes you are exactly right! Also, it appears that Duane Jr.'s mom is still in the picture and sees her granddaughter V.N. |
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Reply #895 posted 11/24/16 7:01am
monica80 |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
80tomato said:
monica80 said: ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Yes, Jeannine was born in 79
can someone clarify who is the mother of Duane Nelson junior and Briana
[Edited 11/23/16 13:55pm]
I dont have my notes in front of me but P's Dads' first wife was the mother of Duane. Carmen Weatherall is Brianna's mom and Elberta Butler Smith is Duane Jr.s mother. |
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Reply #896 posted 11/28/16 11:21am
Reply #897 posted 11/28/16 11:42am
ISaidLifeIsJus tAGame |
morningsong said:
If we ignore her, will she go away?
Apparently not.
The Judge has ignored her since he declared her to be a frivolous litigator.
He doesnt have to respond to anything she files now.
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Reply #898 posted 11/29/16 7:42am
nelcp777 |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
morningsong said:
If we ignore her, will she go away?
Apparently not.
The Judge has ignored her since he declared her to be a frivolous litigator.
He doesnt have to respond to anything she files now.
Thanks for the insight, I was wondering if there will be a ruling on her filings after her being declared a frivlious litigator. |
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Reply #899 posted 11/29/16 9:09am
morningsong |
Well from here forward I will not mention her name. She's had here 15 minutes, time to vanish into the mist. |
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