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Reply #930 posted 11/30/16 5:40pm

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rogifan said:

Not surprised. I honestly don't think Prince cared. Probably one reason why he chose to be without a major record label for 20+ years.


I agree. Just out of curiousity's sake, I'd love to know how much he actually donated to charitable causes, monetary gifts, etc... I imagine he probably would have had significantly more worth/wealth than what they are saying now. I don't think he cared about the money much either as long as he had enough to do what he wanted to do. Not having a will leads me to believe that even more, money wasn't his concern really.

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Reply #931 posted 11/30/16 6:35pm

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Prince made most of his money in a different era. I was shocked to see Bowie worth $100m at his death, a quarter what Beyonce is worth?! He's been consistently making music for almost 50years. It's quite sad.
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Reply #932 posted 11/30/16 7:38pm

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Mumio said:



rogifan said:



Not surprised. I honestly don't think Prince cared. Probably one reason why he chose to be without a major record label for 20+ years.


I agree. Just out of curiousity's sake, I'd love to know how much he actually donated to charitable causes, monetary gifts, etc... I imagine he probably would have had significantly more worth/wealth than what they are saying now. I don't think he cared about the money much either as long as he had enough to do what he wanted to do. Not having a will leads me to believe that even more, money wasn't his concern really.


--- Morris Hayes said Prince would tip the coffee barista $90.00 every time they went for coffee. I don't think he cared about money and you know I would take that 200 million any day.
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Reply #933 posted 11/30/16 7:59pm

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cloveringold85 said:



rogifan said:


So the estate is valued at $200M according to Bremer. And the Star Tribune says the government could take half. That might seem like a lot but I'll bet artists like Beyoncé and Taylor Swift are worth a lot more.

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Beyonce's net worth: 420 Million! eek


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http://moneynation.com/be...net-worth/




--Prince was not with a major label for him 200 million is good and he owned his masters do you think Beyoncé owns hers. He had the carreer he wanted to have and he did good and wills don't stop taxes.
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Reply #934 posted 11/30/16 8:01pm

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Dibblekins said:

Actually, when you read it like that - and thank you, nelcp for your efforts - it's actually all rather dull! Nobody's claims allowed; no unexpected heirs...Aside from the Tidal 'thing', it's all trundling along quite nicely, I suppose!


-- It is not the big mess the media has made it out to be the only problem is the Duane spawn.
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Reply #935 posted 11/30/16 9:08pm

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Finally, an Order excluding Carlin Q as an heir.

We only have a couple more.

lol

Now where are the divorce documents and why are they still unsealed?

I expect a ruling from the Judge or Magistrate soon on whatever motions were heard on 11-14-16.

eek

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Reply #936 posted 11/30/16 10:11pm

morningsong

Am I wrong? Didn't Mani celebrate her 40th Bday this year? Or was it her 38th?
[Edited 11/30/16 22:12pm]
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Reply #937 posted 12/01/16 12:57am

rogifan

petalthecat said:

Prince made most of his money in a different era. I was shocked to see Bowie worth $100m at his death, a quarter what Beyonce is worth?! He's been consistently making music for almost 50years. It's quite sad.

Yes it is sad to see people with far less talent (IMO) making so much money. It also makes me wonder though if these estimates of celebrities net worth are quite exaggerated. Most of the time Forbes is making estimates on the worth of sponsorship deals and they probably don't know what percentage of concert ticket and merchandise sales go to the artist.
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Reply #938 posted 12/01/16 12:59am

rogifan

cloveringold85 said:



rogifan said:


cloveringold85 said:


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Beyonce's net worth: 420 Million! eek


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http://moneynation.com/be...net-worth/





Not surprised. I honestly don't think Prince cared. Probably one reason why he chose to be without a major record label for 20+ years.

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I don't think Prince really cared either, but some people would argue that fact.



I suppose. But there are plenty of ways he could have made more $$ throughout his career if he wanted to.
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Reply #939 posted 12/01/16 2:05am

1Sasha

Robert Downey, Jr., reportedly made $75 million off his last action movie. Today's big stars make huge amounts of money.
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Reply #940 posted 12/01/16 9:15am

Rev

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rogifan said:

petalthecat said:
Prince made most of his money in a different era. I was shocked to see Bowie worth $100m at his death, a quarter what Beyonce is worth?! He's been consistently making music for almost 50years. It's quite sad.
Yes it is sad to see people with far less talent (IMO) making so much money. It also makes me wonder though if these estimates of celebrities net worth are quite exaggerated. Most of the time Forbes is making estimates on the worth of sponsorship deals and they probably don't know what percentage of concert ticket and merchandise sales go to the artist.

I too, believe the current #'s are inflated. I don't think Prince was left wanting or needing anything.

Also, a hundred million isn't what it used to be biggrin

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Reply #941 posted 12/01/16 9:29am

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nelcp777 thank you for updating the list!

You have the patience of Job.

bow bow bow

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Reply #942 posted 12/01/16 10:01am

nelcp777

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 thank you for updating the list!

You have the patience of Job.

bow bow bow

Thanks!

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Reply #943 posted 12/01/16 10:20am

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Rev said:



rogifan said:


petalthecat said:
Prince made most of his money in a different era. I was shocked to see Bowie worth $100m at his death, a quarter what Beyonce is worth?! He's been consistently making music for almost 50years. It's quite sad.

Yes it is sad to see people with far less talent (IMO) making so much money. It also makes me wonder though if these estimates of celebrities net worth are quite exaggerated. Most of the time Forbes is making estimates on the worth of sponsorship deals and they probably don't know what percentage of concert ticket and merchandise sales go to the artist.


I too, believe the current #'s are inflated. I don't think Prince was left wanting or needing anything.


Also, a hundred million isn't what it used to be biggrin


--- 100 million is enough for a guy with no dependent and a few employees. I honestly don't understand why anyone thinks he would be worth 500 million after not being on a lable for years and with music sales being bad for everyone for years.
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Reply #944 posted 12/01/16 10:50am

1Sasha

If you think about it, since the early 90s when his WB crusade began, he really hasn't had the sales of the 80s. He did tour, $85 million for one tour, and then his comment that he was making $3 million per night when he was complaining about the sound out in LA. If Jon Bon Jovi is worth $300 million today, having toured incessantly for a long time, I can imagine Prince being worth at least that. But how much did Prince give away? We never heard, I don't think, if he was the person responsible for the $30 million plus gift last year to a San Francisco non-profit. I do think he went through an incredible amount of money (good for him), but he just seemed not to be interested in keeping up PP or the Egg, or really paying attention to those types of things the past five or so years.

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Reply #945 posted 12/01/16 11:03am

morningsong

1Sasha said:

Robert Downey, Jr., reportedly made $75 million off his last action movie. Today's big stars make huge amounts of money.



RDJ is worth it. I guess if any human being is worth that much.

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Reply #946 posted 12/01/16 12:27pm

Mkilpatrick74

I wonder if the documents from Mani divorce are available via request and payment ? Anyone wanna take a shot and call and ask? Lmbo! Kidding ,. Domt blast me
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Reply #947 posted 12/01/16 1:13pm

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Mkilpatrick74 said:

I wonder if the documents from Mani divorce are available via request and payment ? Anyone wanna take a shot and call and ask? Lmbo! Kidding ,. Domt blast me



You would think ST would say something about it if it were since they're the ones who filed the suit.




They have the DOB listed wrong though. I wonder how that happened?

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Reply #948 posted 12/01/16 1:22pm

Mkilpatrick74

morningsong said:



Mkilpatrick74 said:


I wonder if the documents from Mani divorce are available via request and payment ? Anyone wanna take a shot and call and ask? Lmbo! Kidding ,. Domt blast me



You would think ST would say something about it if it were since they're the ones who filed the suit.





They have the DOB listed wrong though. I wonder how that happened?



I know, I was thinking that earlier. I was wondering bc it looks like everyone paid like $102 after orders were processed including Omar ..... which completely threw me off.
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Reply #949 posted 12/01/16 1:27pm

morningsong

Mkilpatrick74 said:

morningsong said:



You would think ST would say something about it if it were since they're the ones who filed the suit.




They have the DOB listed wrong though. I wonder how that happened?

I know, I was thinking that earlier. I was wondering bc it looks like everyone paid like $102 after orders were processed including Omar ..... which completely threw me off.



I'm really wondering if nothing is there after it's all been redacted. shrug I know I'm not paying $102 to find out.

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Reply #950 posted 12/01/16 5:35pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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morningsong said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

morningsong said: I know, I was thinking that earlier. I was wondering bc it looks like everyone paid like $102 after orders were processed including Omar ..... which completely threw me off.



I'm really wondering if nothing is there after it's all been redacted. shrug I know I'm not paying $102 to find out.

It doesnt look like the divorce file has been unsealed. There were several motions filed and a hearing was held on November 14, 2016. There may be another Order that comes out before the records are unsealed.

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Reply #951 posted 12/01/16 8:49pm

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laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said:

Actually, when you read it like that - and thank you, nelcp for your efforts - it's actually all rather dull! Nobody's claims allowed; no unexpected heirs...Aside from the Tidal 'thing', it's all trundling along quite nicely, I suppose!


-- It is not the big mess the media has made it out to be the only problem is the Duane spawn.


Good feedback, and nice to see MN moving this along/ handling it.
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Reply #952 posted 12/01/16 9:09pm

rap

Prince Estate Has Spent $2.3 Million on Legal Fees in Just 3 Months

Sorting through the Purple One’s potential heirs, planning a museum and dealing with copyright litigation have led to jaw-dropping bills

http://www.thewrap.com/prince-estate-legal-fees-millions/

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Reply #953 posted 12/02/16 1:51am

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rap said:

Prince Estate Has Spent $2.3 Million on Legal Fees in Just 3 Months



Sorting through the Purple One’s potential heirs, planning a museum and dealing with copyright litigation have led to jaw-dropping bills



http://www.thewrap.com/prince-estate-legal-fees-millions/


--2.3 is not jaw dropping if the Estate is worth 200 million.
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Reply #954 posted 12/02/16 7:09am

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rap said:

Prince Estate Has Spent $2.3 Million on Legal Fees in Just 3 Months

Sorting through the Purple One’s potential heirs, planning a museum and dealing with copyright litigation have led to jaw-dropping bills

http://www.thewrap.com/prince-estate-legal-fees-millions/

--2.3 is not jaw dropping if the Estate is worth 200 million.

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2.3 million for a stack of papers with letters is a lot of money.

The relativity of the sum is only illustarted when you know the cashflow into the estate.

Are they draining the estate or are they still earning a bit?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #955 posted 12/02/16 8:56am

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udo said:



laurarichardson said:


rap said:

Prince Estate Has Spent $2.3 Million on Legal Fees in Just 3 Months



Sorting through the Purple One’s potential heirs, planning a museum and dealing with copyright litigation have led to jaw-dropping bills



http://www.thewrap.com/prince-estate-legal-fees-millions/



--2.3 is not jaw dropping if the Estate is worth 200 million.

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2.3 million for a stack of papers with letters is a lot of money.


The relativity of the sum is only illustarted when you know the cashflow into the estate.


Are they draining the estate or are they still earning a bit?


--According to Forbs the estate has taken in 25 million thus far this year. Remember in had 19 albums in the U.S chart after he passed and he did sell out a stadium in Oakland. They are also selling properties and he had commercial properties that may be bringing in revenue not to mention a sold out tribute concert. If you look on the estate thread I only see one actual finacial claim that is still open. The estate will be making money for years to come.
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Reply #956 posted 12/02/16 9:01am

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--According to Forbs the estate has taken in 25 million thus far this year. Remember in had 19 albums in the U.S chart after he passed and he did sell out a stadium in Oakland. They are also selling properties and he had commercial properties that may be bringing in revenue not to mention a sold out tribute concert. If you look on the estate thread I only see one actual finacial claim that is still open. The estate will be making money for years to come.

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So we see over 10% of that 25+M USD in legal costs?!

That is a large chunk.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #957 posted 12/02/16 10:13am

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udo said:

laurarichardson said:

--According to Forbs the estate has taken in 25 million thus far this year. Remember in had 19 albums in the U.S chart after he passed and he did sell out a stadium in Oakland. They are also selling properties and he had commercial properties that may be bringing in revenue not to mention a sold out tribute concert. If you look on the estate thread I only see one actual finacial claim that is still open. The estate will be making money for years to come.

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So we see over 10% of that 25+M USD in legal costs?!

That is a large chunk.

P's estate is a complicated legal matter.

There are issues that have never been addressed in a probate estate case before.

The amount of attorney fees includes the folllowing services:

1. Copyright infringement and lawsuit with Tidal;

2. Copyright litigation that began before P's death (including the lawsuit in Italy against P);

3. Copyright litigation in Florida against P;

4. Divorce records litigation;

5. Heirship claims and issues;

6. Appellate court briefs;

7. The organization and opening of PP Museum;

8. Addressing motions by the media to intervene;

9. Addressing every motion, pleading filed (there have been over 700);

10. Communication and negotiation with potential heirs;

11. Official tribute concert;

12. Entertainment issues and monetization of the Estate;

13. Master-use license requests;

14. Royalty statements and collection fees both US and foreign;

15. Intellectual property protection and enforcement;

16. Real estate issues;

17. Rodney Dixon's claim which took up a lot of time doing research, and responding to his claim, etc.;

18. Prep of the estate tax return;

19. The amount of attorney fees the Estate paid is also for all potential heir attorney fees;

20. There is over $34k in just expenses;

21. The list goes on......

eek

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Reply #958 posted 12/02/16 10:44am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



udo said:




laurarichardson said:


--According to Forbs the estate has taken in 25 million thus far this year. Remember in had 19 albums in the U.S chart after he passed and he did sell out a stadium in Oakland. They are also selling properties and he had commercial properties that may be bringing in revenue not to mention a sold out tribute concert. If you look on the estate thread I only see one actual finacial claim that is still open. The estate will be making money for years to come.

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So we see over 10% of that 25+M USD in legal costs?!


That is a large chunk.



P's estate is a complicated legal matter.


There are issues that have never been addressed in a probate estate case before.


The amount of attorney fees includes the folllowing services:


1. Copyright infringement and lawsuit with Tidal;


2. Copyright litigation that began before P's death (including the lawsuit in Italy against P);


3. Copyright litigation in Florida against P;


4. Divorce records litigation;


5. Heirship claims and issues;


6. Appellate court briefs;


7. The organization and opening of PP Museum;


8. Addressing motions by the media to intervene;


9. Addressing every motion, pleading filed (there have been over 700);


10. Communication and negotiation with potential heirs;


11. Official tribute concert;


12. Entertainment issues and monetization of the Estate;


13. Master-use license requests;


14. Royalty statements and collection fees both US and foreign;


15. Intellectual property protection and enforcement;


16. Real estate issues;


17. Rodney Dixon's claim which took up a lot of time doing research, and responding to his claim, etc.;


18. Prep of the estate tax return;


19. The amount of attorney fees the Estate paid is also for all potential heir attorney fees;


20. There is over $34k in just expenses;


21. The list goes on.....


eek


They should make people like Rodney pick up the cost.
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Reply #959 posted 12/02/16 11:07am

nelcp777

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

udo said:

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So we see over 10% of that 25+M USD in legal costs?!

That is a large chunk.

P's estate is a complicated legal matter.

There are issues that have never been addressed in a probate estate case before.

The amount of attorney fees includes the folllowing services:

1. Copyright infringement and lawsuit with Tidal;

2. Copyright litigation that began before P's death (including the lawsuit in Italy against P);

3. Copyright litigation in Florida against P;

4. Divorce records litigation;

5. Heirship claims and issues;

6. Appellate court briefs;

7. The organization and opening of PP Museum;

8. Addressing motions by the media to intervene;

9. Addressing every motion, pleading filed (there have been over 700);

10. Communication and negotiation with potential heirs;

11. Official tribute concert;

12. Entertainment issues and monetization of the Estate;

13. Master-use license requests;

14. Royalty statements and collection fees both US and foreign;

15. Intellectual property protection and enforcement;

16. Real estate issues;

17. Rodney Dixon's claim which took up a lot of time doing research, and responding to his claim, etc.;

18. Prep of the estate tax return;

19. The amount of attorney fees the Estate paid is also for all potential heir attorney fees;

20. There is over $34k in just expenses;

21. The list goes on......

eek

Thanks for putting this into perspective for me. Man, that is a lot of work. Since a valuation has been put on the Estate, does that mean that Inventory will be released or can the Court seal that?

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